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Post by snow on Jan 29, 2024 15:45:13 GMT -5
They went after Al Qaeda and got Osama bin laden without killing so many women and children. Why can't they do that here? There has got to be a better way than just bombing them all hoping to get Hamas leaders. If they can do it for bin laden, they can do it here. I don't think Israel government cares one bit about who dies in Palestine. Al Qaeda is not a fair comparisan. The government of Gaza declared war on the State of Israel, so the government of Gaza has to be defeated. To defeat a terrorist government that hides behind civilians and has been preparing for this war for the last 17 years is not easy. If Israel intended genocide there would be no need for Israeli troops to die in Gaza, as is happening currently. From Article 7 of the Hamas founding document... www.memri.org/reports/hamas-charter-%E2%80%93-ideology-behind-massacreFrom THE DECLARATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL... www.gov.il/en/departments/general/declaration-of-establishment-state-of-israelI guess we all get to decide which side is the most reasonable. My point was this. It's possible to hunt and kill the leaders. No one said it would be easy. I know that and I do understand that Israel is up against a mindset that took years to build to this stage. I know that there are Palestinians that live in Israel. The Palestinian women and children are not the problem. Like you said, it's a terrorist government that uses them like shields like the Taliban did. When you know that's what they are doing, and still bomb them, what does that say? There has to be a better way. |
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Post by xna on Jan 29, 2024 16:12:52 GMT -5
My point was this. It's possible to hunt and kill the leaders. No one said it would be easy. I know that and I do understand that Israel is up against a mindset that took years to build to this stage. I know that there are Palestinians that live in Israel. The Palestinian women and children are not the problem. Like you said, it's a terrorist government that uses them like shields like the Taliban did. When you know that's what they are doing, and still bomb them, what does that say? There has to be a better way.
Most people don't know Roughly 5,000 Palestinians living inside Israel currently volunteer to serve in the Israeli military. |
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Post by snow on Jan 29, 2024 16:20:58 GMT -5
My point was this. It's possible to hunt and kill the leaders. No one said it would be easy. I know that and I do understand that Israel is up against a mindset that took years to build to this stage. I know that there are Palestinians that live in Israel. The Palestinian women and children are not the problem. Like you said, it's a terrorist government that uses them like shields like the Taliban did. When you know that's what they are doing, and still bomb them, what does that say? There has to be a better way.
Most people don't know Roughly 5,000 Palestinians living inside Israel currently volunteer to serve in the Israeli military. They likely hate the Hamas as much as the ones that are caught in the middle. Never voted in the Hamas but have to live the hell they bring to them daily. |
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Post by fixit on Jan 29, 2024 16:58:10 GMT -5
My point was this. It's possible to hunt and kill the leaders. No one said it would be easy. I know that and I do understand that Israel is up against a mindset that took years to build to this stage. I know that there are Palestinians that live in Israel. The Palestinian women and children are not the problem. Like you said, it's a terrorist government that uses them like shields like the Taliban did. When you know that's what they are doing, and still bomb them, what does that say? There has to be a better way. I'm not sure there is a better way. Israeli soldiers are dying on the ground in Gaza trying to seperate terrorists from civilians. Many more IDF soldiers would die if bombing was taken out of the mix. If the IDF didn't care about killing civilians, there would be more than 1% of the Gaza population killed. Much more. |
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Post by snow on Jan 29, 2024 17:35:44 GMT -5
My point was this. It's possible to hunt and kill the leaders. No one said it would be easy. I know that and I do understand that Israel is up against a mindset that took years to build to this stage. I know that there are Palestinians that live in Israel. The Palestinian women and children are not the problem. Like you said, it's a terrorist government that uses them like shields like the Taliban did. When you know that's what they are doing, and still bomb them, what does that say? There has to be a better way. I'm not sure there is a better way. Israeli soldiers are dying on the ground in Gaza trying to seperate terrorists from civilians. Many more IDF soldiers would die if bombing was taken out of the mix. If the IDF didn't care about killing civilians, there would be more than 1% of the Gaza population killed. Much more. My heart goes out to all concerned. Hatred poison's everything. I think it's ironic that these two religions had similar origins, Abraham, and here they are fighting over the same territory, both claiming their God gave it to them. |
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Post by fixit on Jan 29, 2024 18:28:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure there is a better way. Israeli soldiers are dying on the ground in Gaza trying to seperate terrorists from civilians. Many more IDF soldiers would die if bombing was taken out of the mix. If the IDF didn't care about killing civilians, there would be more than 1% of the Gaza population killed. Much more. My heart goes out to all concerned. Hatred poison's everything. I think it's ironic that these two religions had similar origins, Abraham, and here they are fighting over the same territory, both claiming their God gave it to them. Some in the Israeli government have suggested that Gazan residents find homes elsewhere and I think there's a discussion to be had. They could have a far better life resettled in other parts of the world, so why flog a dead horse for generations? When Palestinians settle in my country and are accepted as citizens, they can buy as much land as they want and have a good life. |
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Post by snow on Jan 31, 2024 18:15:00 GMT -5
My heart goes out to all concerned. Hatred poison's everything. I think it's ironic that these two religions had similar origins, Abraham, and here they are fighting over the same territory, both claiming their God gave it to them. Some in the Israeli government have suggested that Gazan residents find homes elsewhere and I think there's a discussion to be had. They could have a far better life resettled in other parts of the world, so why flog a dead horse for generations? When Palestinians settle in my country and are accepted as citizens, they can buy as much land as they want and have a good life. I suspect that would be an ideal situation, but there are always those who it can never happen too for various reasons. |
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Post by Lee on Feb 1, 2024 9:21:46 GMT -5
Is Israel entitled to the lands they occupy today, and desire to occupy in the future? This would accord with the promises to Abraham. However, history establishes their right was denied due to disobedience.
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Post by Lee on Feb 1, 2024 9:30:12 GMT -5
My point was this. It's possible to hunt and kill the leaders. No one said it would be easy. I know that and I do understand that Israel is up against a mindset that took years to build to this stage. I know that there are Palestinians that live in Israel. The Palestinian women and children are not the problem. Like you said, it's a terrorist government that uses them like shields like the Taliban did. When you know that's what they are doing, and still bomb them, what does that say? There has to be a better way. I'm not sure there is a better way. Israeli soldiers are dying on the ground in Gaza trying to seperate terrorists from civilians. Many more IDF soldiers would die if bombing was taken out of the mix. If the IDF didn't care about killing civilians, there would be more than 1% of the Gaza population killed. Much more. Why do they care? They care hypocritically, as the powers that shouldn’t be fashion their minds. The powers that shouldn’t be rule by proxies (politicians) whose first act is to place their fingers in the air. Why not kill all Palestinians? Wouldn’t that eliminate the threat to Israel? Or would their enemies then pummel them, with justification? Who is saved from the wrath of the Lord? Is it Israel, is it America? Who are the deep state bankers running the world for profit? |
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Post by fixit on Feb 1, 2024 13:48:57 GMT -5
Is Israel entitled to the lands they occupy today, and desire to occupy in the future? This would accord with the promises to Abraham. However, history establishes their right was denied due to disobedience. Humanity is in the process of rejecting a "unipolar" (rule of law) world in favour of a multipolar world where might is right. It means Russia can swallow Ukraine, China can swallow Taiwan, and Israel can reclaim its ancestral lands. |
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Post by Lee on Feb 3, 2024 0:23:49 GMT -5
That sounds great for business, the military industrial complexes, and their fascist governments. Would simultaneously help resolve the imagined population and environmental problems.
Sounds like Satan is conducting business as usual. Boy do we need God.
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Post by xna on Feb 3, 2024 11:02:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2024 13:45:08 GMT -5
youtu.be/1D3uQbiE8No?si=_EgnSUaLzz8192bIsrael doing what they do. "You know our motto:'there are NO uninvolved civilians'" We must keep supporting genocide to save democracy. Probably because Putin somehow (Democrat Pelosi logic).
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Post by Lee on Feb 17, 2024 0:46:45 GMT -5
Like a diabolical rendering and misappropriation of the guilt of that sin we here a lot about today: ‘complicity’
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Post by fixit on Feb 17, 2024 1:22:47 GMT -5
It's war. War is awful. Interestungly Tucker Carlson says it's OK for Ukrainians to be killed while removing imaginary "Nazis", but Gazans musn't be killed while removing Hamas terrorists. He's Putin's "useful idiot" who thinks Putin can be appeased by swapping land for peace. It didn't work for Israel and it won't work for Ukraine. Major Archbishop Shevchuk: Russia's 10-year war on Ukraine is 'genocide' |
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Post by Lee on Feb 17, 2024 10:50:47 GMT -5
Are you taking your worldview from the world sh- show again? How much of the ‘kingdom of God’ do you suppose we can materialize from western Pragmatism?
Tucker cracked me up, suggesting to Putin Christianity was non violent. What world does Tucker live on? It was a good conversation starter
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 21:50:21 GMT -5
It's war. War is awful. Interestungly Tucker Carlson says it's OK for Ukrainians to be killed while removing imaginary "Nazis", but Gazans musn't be killed while removing Hamas terrorists. He's Putin's "useful idiot" who thinks Putin can be appeased by swapping land for peace. It didn't work for Israel and it won't work for Ukraine. Major Archbishop Shevchuk: Russia's 10-year war on Ukraine is 'genocide' I believe the thing that has shocked the world and led to charges of War Crimes against Israel is more the scope and proportion of the civilians being killed and in many cases targeted. But you are right - there will always be innocent casualties in war. |
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Post by fixit on Feb 17, 2024 22:44:36 GMT -5
It's war. War is awful. Interestungly Tucker Carlson says it's OK for Ukrainians to be killed while removing imaginary "Nazis", but Gazans musn't be killed while removing Hamas terrorists. He's Putin's "useful idiot" who thinks Putin can be appeased by swapping land for peace. It didn't work for Israel and it won't work for Ukraine. Major Archbishop Shevchuk: Russia's 10-year war on Ukraine is 'genocide' I believe the thing that has shocked the world and led to charges of War Crimes against Israel is more the scope and proportion of the civilians being killed and in many cases targeted. But you are right - there will always be innocent casualties in war. I'm not convinced that civilians are targeted. It might seem that way when a tunnel entrance is from a child's bedroom, or when Mrs Mohammad is standing behind her terrorist husband when he's firing on IDF soldiers. 2 civilians killed for every terrorist is as good as you can expect... |
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Post by xna on Feb 19, 2024 15:25:06 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Feb 19, 2024 20:23:12 GMT -5
Obviously, something is wrong with the picture.
God genocided the Canaanites, if you call it that for their abhorrent culture and behaviors. Modern, fleshly Israel merely wants land for mammon. Fleshly expression, divorced over spiritual.
Sure, you can argue from a naturalistic, atheistic assumption, that Jews were wronged and maligned by Hitler and others, and are therefore entitled to do whatever they want to with the occupants of Gaza.
You’re taking the world’s position, which so happens to be Satan’s . Don’t tell me you weren’t warned.
The deep dark state is at work, coming to a community near yours and mine
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 19, 2024 21:31:59 GMT -5
It seems to me that a lot of noise is being made by the indignant self righteous American christians as they increasingly find that they and their god are an impediment to a peaceful and propserous country. There are many people that are now awake to the evil of the mythology that christianity promotes. I see it on here nearly every day.
Who would not want to be support the goals of reducing poverty and hunger?
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Post by Lee on Feb 19, 2024 21:50:55 GMT -5
My Jeez, your reply doesn’t rise to an occasion of low IQ
Your offering is manifestly diversionary, warranting the opprobrium of a clinical diagnosis
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 19, 2024 21:52:49 GMT -5
My Jeez, your reply doesn’t rise to an occasion of low IQ Your offering is manifestly diversionary, warranting the clinical opprobrium of a clinical diagnosis Thank you for proving my point. |
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Post by Lee on Feb 19, 2024 21:54:03 GMT -5
Lol. Game on
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Post by xna on Feb 21, 2024 12:09:05 GMT -5
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 22, 2024 19:45:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 20:20:09 GMT -5
Our wonderful Christian fundamentalist GOP members are unraveling. Open calls for genocide. Activist: "So you support our taxpayer dollars going to bomb kids?" GOP congressman: "You know what, I think we should kill them all!" www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQNd_T66RqgNot a cent more for Israel. Ever. |
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