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Post by Dan on Feb 22, 2024 23:08:30 GMT -5
Our wonderful Christian fundamentalist GOP members are unraveling. Open calls for genocide. Activist: "So you support our taxpayer dollars going to bomb kids?" GOP congressman: "You know what, I think we should kill them all!" www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQNd_T66RqgNot a cent more for Israel. Ever.
36 children murdered by Hamas in October 7 massacre, over 30 still held hostage. The children were slaughtered in their homes, in their bedrooms; several of them were horrifically burned alive, while others were brutally murdered in the presence of their parents. Not a cent more to the Palestinians either. The barbarism is horrific on both sides and will continue as long as they think they can live peaceably side by side. They are mortal enemies and peace will never happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2024 0:03:30 GMT -5
Our wonderful Christian fundamentalist GOP members are unraveling. Open calls for genocide. Activist: "So you support our taxpayer dollars going to bomb kids?" GOP congressman: "You know what, I think we should kill them all!" www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQNd_T66RqgNot a cent more for Israel. Ever.
36 children murdered by Hamas in October 7 massacre, over 30 still held hostage. The children were slaughtered in their homes, in their bedrooms; several of them were horrifically burned alive, while others were brutally murdered in the presence of their parents. Not a cent more to the Palestinians either. The barbarism is horrific on both sides and will continue as long as they think they can live peaceably side by side. They are mortal enemies and peace will never happen.
In both cases, it's not some terrorist group within the population and outside control of the governments. The war crimes are being committed by both governments themselves. The only thing I would give Palestinians is humanitarian aid, but Israel seems to like blowing up that too. Both governing bodies, Hamas and Likud, are terrorists in my estimation. But the US is funding and cheering for the one that's 100x more lethal and powerful. For that matter, gun violence in the US has killed more children in 2024 alone than Hamas did in their attack, though such comparisons if done casually risk minimizing the tragedy of the death of even one child. www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/child-killed?page=1 |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 23, 2024 0:59:31 GMT -5
Obviously, something is wrong with the picture. God genocided the Canaanites, if you call it that for their abhorrent culture and behaviors. Modern, fleshly Israel merely wants land for mammon. Fleshly expression, divorced over spiritual. Sure, you can argue from a naturalistic, atheistic assumption, that Jews were wronged and maligned by Hitler and others, and are therefore entitled to do whatever they want to with the occupants of Gaza. You’re taking the world’s position, which so happens to be Satan’s . Don’t tell me you weren’t warned. The deep dark state is at work, coming to a community near yours and mine  |
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Post by fixit on Feb 23, 2024 4:39:00 GMT -5
Our wonderful Christian fundamentalist GOP members are unraveling. Open calls for genocide. Activist: "So you support our taxpayer dollars going to bomb kids?" GOP congressman: "You know what, I think we should kill them all!" www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQNd_T66RqgNot a cent more for Israel. Ever. 36 children murdered by Hamas in October 7 massacre, over 30 still held hostage. The children were slaughtered in their homes, in their bedrooms; several of them were horrifically burned alive, while others were brutally murdered in the presence of their parents. Not a cent more to the Palestinians either. The barbarism is horrific on both sides and will continue as long as they think they can live peaceably side by side. They are mortal enemies and peace will never happen.
Remember when East and West Germany were mortal enemies? |
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Post by snow on Feb 23, 2024 16:38:56 GMT -5
36 children murdered by Hamas in October 7 massacre, over 30 still held hostage. The children were slaughtered in their homes, in their bedrooms; several of them were horrifically burned alive, while others were brutally murdered in the presence of their parents. Not a cent more to the Palestinians either. The barbarism is horrific on both sides and will continue as long as they think they can live peaceably side by side. They are mortal enemies and peace will never happen.
In both cases, it's not some terrorist group within the population and outside control of the governments. The war crimes are being committed by both governments themselves. The only thing I would give Palestinians is humanitarian aid, but Israel seems to like blowing up that too. Both governing bodies, Hamas and Likud, are terrorists in my estimation. But the US is funding and cheering for the one that's 100x more lethal and powerful. For that matter, gun violence in the US has killed more children in 2024 alone than Hamas did in their attack, though such comparisons if done casually risk minimizing the tragedy of the death of even one child. www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/child-killed?page=1Once the child has been born all the pro lifers that support no gun regulations seem to forget all about saving the lives of children. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 23, 2024 20:06:36 GMT -5
In both cases, it's not some terrorist group within the population and outside control of the governments. The war crimes are being committed by both governments themselves. The only thing I would give Palestinians is humanitarian aid, but Israel seems to like blowing up that too. Both governing bodies, Hamas and Likud, are terrorists in my estimation. But the US is funding and cheering for the one that's 100x more lethal and powerful. For that matter, gun violence in the US has killed more children in 2024 alone than Hamas did in their attack, though such comparisons if done casually risk minimizing the tragedy of the death of even one child. www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/child-killed?page=1Once the child has been born all the pro lifers that support no gun regulations seem to forget all about saving the lives of children. Well, they're not even that caring about unborn US-citizen babies either. In FL and TX they can refuse medical care to migrant mothers depending on their migrant status. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2024 22:10:44 GMT -5
In both cases, it's not some terrorist group within the population and outside control of the governments. The war crimes are being committed by both governments themselves. The only thing I would give Palestinians is humanitarian aid, but Israel seems to like blowing up that too. Both governing bodies, Hamas and Likud, are terrorists in my estimation. But the US is funding and cheering for the one that's 100x more lethal and powerful. For that matter, gun violence in the US has killed more children in 2024 alone than Hamas did in their attack, though such comparisons if done casually risk minimizing the tragedy of the death of even one child. www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/child-killed?page=1Once the child has been born all the pro lifers that support no gun regulations seem to forget all about saving the lives of children. In many cases on a legislative level, you're very right. On a personal level however, many pro-life Christians are very active in supporting children in a variety of ways. Christians are 2x more likely to adopt a child than other religious or non-affiliated persons. Men are more likely to adopt than women. And Caucasians are more likely to adopt than any other racial group. ( adoption.org/who-adopts-the-most ). So if one adds it all together using the 'group identity' model, the "toxic white Christian males" care more about unwanted children after they're born than any other group. That's on a personal, individual level of course. And Christians are 50% more likely to foster children, more likely to foster children with special needs, and the children in their care stay with them on average 2.5x longer before being moved. reasons.org/explore/blogs/voices/a-response-to-the-objection-that-christians-are-pro-birth-not-pro-life------------- On a legislative level though, programs that are meant to increase resources for groups which include children in need are generally more supported by the left than the right. So there's a bit of a balance. |
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Post by fixit on Feb 23, 2024 23:12:12 GMT -5
Israel has proposed retaining control of security "from the river to the sea" indefinitely after defeating and disarming the terrorists.
Palestinians who are not members of terrorist groups or the Palestinian Authority will be asked to govern the territories.
Does anyone have a better idea?
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 23, 2024 23:17:46 GMT -5
Once the child has been born all the pro lifers that support no gun regulations seem to forget all about saving the lives of children. In many cases on a legislative level, you're very right. On a personal level however, many pro-life Christians are very active in supporting children in a variety of ways. Christians are 2x more likely to adopt a child than other religious or non-affiliated persons. Men are more likely to adopt than women. And Caucasians are more likely to adopt than any other racial group. ( adoption.org/who-adopts-the-most ). So if one adds it all together using the 'group identity' model, the "toxic white Christian males" care more about unwanted children after they're born than any other group. That's on a personal, individual level of course. And Christians are 50% more likely to foster children, more likely to foster children with special needs, and the children in their care stay with them on average 2.5x longer before being moved. reasons.org/explore/blogs/voices/a-response-to-the-objection-that-christians-are-pro-birth-not-pro-life------------- On a legislative level though, programs that are meant to increase resources for groups which include children in need are generally more supported by the left than the right. So there's a bit of a balance. Thanks to discrimination practices by adoption agencies. They made a mistake once and let a black family adopt an Italian baby, because she was dark enough to pass as a light skinned black.  |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 23, 2024 23:20:50 GMT -5
Israel has proposed retaining control of security "from the river to the sea" indefinitely after defeating and disarming the terrorists. Palestinians who are not members of terrorist groups or the Palestinian Authority will be asked to govern the territories. Does anyone have a better idea? In the interim, no. But that's how we got to where we are now. |
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Post by fixit on Feb 24, 2024 0:35:07 GMT -5
Israel has proposed retaining control of security "from the river to the sea" indefinitely after defeating and disarming the terrorists. Palestinians who are not members of terrorist groups or the Palestinian Authority will be asked to govern the territories. Does anyone have a better idea? In the interim, no. But that's how we got to where we are now. Israel didn't properly take responsibilty for security. If they did, there would have been no rockets in UN schools, no West Bank streets awash with AK47s, no hospitals used as terrorist command centres and no terror tunnels. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 24, 2024 1:42:28 GMT -5
In the interim, no. But that's how we got to where we are now. Israel didn't properly take responsibilty for security. If they did, there would have been no rockets in UN schools, no West Bank streets awash with AK47s, no hospitals used as terrorist command centres and no terror tunnels. True. That was when they just pulled out of Gaza altogether. The best outcome would be a sovereign Palestinian state, but Israel has by now so much blood on its hands that they can't afford to allow it to happen. It's obvious that they aren't going to cooperate for a Palestinian state to become a reality, because their present proposal for after the war is to allow Jewish settlement in Gaza like they have done in the West Bank. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2024 3:13:37 GMT -5
Israel didn't properly take responsibilty for security. If they did, there would have been no rockets in UN schools, no West Bank streets awash with AK47s, no hospitals used as terrorist command centres and no terror tunnels. True. That was when they just pulled out of Gaza altogether. The best outcome would be a sovereign Palestinian state, but Israel has by now so much blood on its hands that they can't afford to allow it to happen. It's obvious that they aren't going to cooperate for a Palestinian state to become a reality, because their present proposal for after the war is to allow Jewish settlement in Gaza like they have done in the West Bank. Problem is, Net-and-Yahoo isn't in favor of a 2 state solution, and any compromise by Israel wouldn't be likely to give the Israeli settlements back to Palestinian people. The Trump administration tried the 2 state route, but the only conditions Isreal would agree to were seen (and rightfully so) as extremely favorable to Israel. Hamas rejected it because it didn't return settlements to Palestine, and because while it did grant their goal of a Palestinian Capitol in East Jerusalem, most of Jerusalem would still be under Israeli control. apnews.com/article/0dcb0179faf41e1870f35838058f4d18 |
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Post by fixit on Feb 24, 2024 3:57:21 GMT -5
Can you imagine a divided Jerusalem?
Who would guarantee no tunnels and rockets?
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2024 13:16:51 GMT -5
Obviously, something is wrong with the picture. God genocided the Canaanites, if you call it that for their abhorrent culture and behaviors. Modern, fleshly Israel merely wants land for mammon. Fleshly expression, divorced over spiritual. Sure, you can argue from a naturalistic, atheistic assumption, that Jews were wronged and maligned by Hitler and others, and are therefore entitled to do whatever they want to with the occupants of Gaza. You’re taking the world’s position, which so happens to be Satan’s . Don’t tell me you weren’t warned. The deep dark state is at work, coming to a community near yours and mine Its the architecture of this world to recruit snakes to tame cobras |
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Post by xna on Feb 24, 2024 13:52:07 GMT -5
Can you imagine a divided Jerusalem?
Jerusalem has been divided into four quarters for a very long time. There is; the Muslim Quarter, the Christian Quarter the Jewish Quarter and the Armenian Quarter. The Muslim Quarter is the largest in Jerusalem. I find the most interesting part of Jerusalem is the Arab markets. It's a large bazaar occupying approximately 100 acres of area in the Old City of Jerusalem. About 800 Arab merchants operate a variety of businesses in closely-packed shops in the the Muslim Quarter. The Jews often shut down access to the Arab markets as punishment for all the Muslims in Israel, when tensions are high. When this happens they have no way to make money. Jerusalem is a mecca for religious zealots, but mainly it's just a very large tourist trap. In 2017 3.5 million tourist toured Jerusalem.   |
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Post by fixit on Feb 24, 2024 14:05:38 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2024 14:12:42 GMT -5
What I think is that if everyone turned to Christ in truth not in fleshly pretense, all of this evil would end. We’re being judged, folks
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 14:20:48 GMT -5
The love of religion is the root of all evil.
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2024 14:26:55 GMT -5
False religion
One has to unpack Curlys statement to relate individual behaviors to the whole
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 14:29:57 GMT -5
False religion One has to unpack Curlys statement to relate individual behaviors to the whole Religion is the following or worshipping of a god or gods. Gods are just figments of your mens imagination. Your particular god is made in your image. That's where the trouble starts as each persons religion is better than the other chap. Basing ones life on factual evidence cleanses ones life of all the god nonsense. |
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Post by fixit on Feb 24, 2024 14:30:26 GMT -5
The love of religion is the root of all evil. It's not that simple when you think of Stalin and Pol Pot. |
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2024 14:33:50 GMT -5
False religion One has to unpack Curlys statement to relate individual behaviors to the whole Religion is the following or worshipping of a god or gods. Gods are just figments of your mens imagination. Your particular god is made in your image. That's where the trouble starts as each persons religion is better than the other chap. Basing ones life on factual evidence cleanses ones life of all the god nonsense. The construct of competing theologies lies downstream of this world. For in this world our natures abhor the weak and falsely worship the strong. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 14:36:48 GMT -5
That's a result of the UN declaration declaring part of the Mandated Palestine to be a new country called Israel. That is probaly the most ill conceived bit of legislation ever. Prior to Hitlers rise to power there was little of these problems in the area. However the clock does not turn back and they have what they have. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 14:38:07 GMT -5
The love of religion is the root of all evil. It's not that simple when you think of Stalin and Pol Pot. Religion is not the only cause of evil. Greed and the love of power are other causes. |
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2024 15:02:37 GMT -5
I sense you have something to splain
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Post by xna on Feb 24, 2024 15:21:57 GMT -5
It's just another religious war. The bible is filled with many such wars. What sets religious wars apart is they never forgive and forget. Enemies remain enemies nearly forever. For example on the road that the 3.7 million tourists take going to Jerusalem there are tanks left along side the road from this 1948 war. On that bus trip they hear how the enemy is Arabs but by the grace of god the Jews prevailed. The culture has many jewish holidays which celebrate wars, each year. Here are just a few: Yom HaAtzmaut - Celebrating Israeli Independence Day and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948. Yom HaZikaron - Israel's Memorial Day for fallen soldiers and victims of terrorism. Purim - Commemorates the salvation of the Jewish people in ancient Persia from a plot to destroy them, as recounted in the Book of Esther. Yom HaShoah - Holocaust Remembrance Day, resistance efforts and uprisings against Nazi oppression. Tisha B'Av - destruction of the First and Second Temples in Jerusalem and other tragedies throughout Jewish history, many of which involved wars and conflicts. War is part of their religion and their culture. Compare this to some USA wars with; Germany, Japan, Vietnam, etc. The past has been forgiven, and the USA is good friends and trading partners. You don't see this in religious wars. Religion needs an oppressor and an enemy. Religion keeps the war flames alive from generation to generation. When secular Jews moved to make peace with their neighbors the religious parts don't like that as it doesn't fit with their books. This is true for Arabs as well as Jews. Do you remember when Anwar Sadat the prominent leader in Egypt was assassinated? He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1978 along with Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin for their role in the Camp David Accords, which led to a peace treaty between Egypt and Israel. However, his pursuit of peace with Israel angered some within Egypt and the wider Arab world, ultimately leading to his assassination by Islamic extremists during a military parade in Cairo on October 6, 1981. More recently you see peace talks breakdown between Saudi Arabia and Israel all in the name of their god. |
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2024 15:42:51 GMT -5
When false religion attended by nefarious political actors reign, a counter flag and attending religiosity will emerge. Christianity is the defensive religion of the people.
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