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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2021 19:40:40 GMT -5
End my speculation, here's your chance. Will I burn in Hell for not seeing it like you?. i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn"...pay attention buttercup It is a simple question @wally, why can't you answer it ? chuck is asking you a question, he is NOT saying "you said or didn't say". There are only 2 options Yes or No !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 19:43:03 GMT -5
i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn"...pay attention buttercup It is a simple question @wally , why can't you answer it ? chuck is asking you a question, he is NOT saying "you said or didn't say". There are only 2 options Yes or No !! i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn"...
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Post by nathan on Feb 22, 2021 19:43:44 GMT -5
** I explained to you in greater detail but your atheist mind can't grasp it. Wally, others on here, and myself have "check mate" you so many times already. Will I burn in Hell of I don't see it like you?. ** It 's NOT me who need professional help but you, atheist. God will cast you in the LAKE of Fire for NOT believing in Jesus teaching Luke 16. As an unbeliever, your own sins will roast you in the fire by your choice. God wants to SAVE you from roasting but you don't believe the fire will burn you.
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2021 19:51:48 GMT -5
It is a simple question @wally , why can't you answer it ? chuck is asking you a question, he is NOT saying "you said or didn't say". There are only 2 options Yes or No !! i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn"... Answer the question @wally ! You are becoming a broken record !
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2021 19:52:34 GMT -5
speculation is your friend...atheist End my speculation, here's your chance. Will I burn in Hell for not seeing it like you?.
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2021 19:55:02 GMT -5
Will I burn in Hell of I don't see it like you?. ** It 's NOT me who need professional help but you, atheist. God will burn you in the LAKE of Fire for NOT believing in Jesus teaching in Luke 16. As an unbeliever, your own sins will roast you in the fire . You better be careful you don't suffer the same fate nathan !! Is this what will happen to your mate Stranges ?
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Post by nathan on Feb 22, 2021 20:05:53 GMT -5
** It 's NOT me who need professional help but you, atheist. God will burn you in the LAKE of Fire for NOT believing in Jesus teaching in Luke 16. As an unbeliever, your own sins will roast you in the fire . You better be careful you don't suffer the same fate nathan!Is this what will happen to your mate Stranges ? You need to work out your own Salvation RT. It doesn't look good for you right now. My faith and trust in Jesus as My Savior, he will help me NOT to DIE the Second Death/Lake of fire but you are NOT. IF I were you watch your steps so you don't end up in the same place with Chuck/your new atheist buddy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 20:06:58 GMT -5
i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn"... Answer the question @wally ! You are becoming a broken record ! i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn"...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 20:10:41 GMT -5
You're speaking in riddles me thinks. It's a yes/no question. It's called "Check Mate" In a game of chess, you can't checkmate your opponent if they're playing Candy Land.😆
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2021 20:12:41 GMT -5
You better be careful you don't suffer the same fate nathan!Is this what will happen to your mate Stranges ? You need to work out your own Salvation RT. It doesn't look good for you right now. My faith and trust in Jesus will help me from NOT to DIE the Second Death/Lake of fire but you are NOT. IF I were you watch your steps so you don't end up in the same place with Chuck/your new atheist buddy. Oh are you God now nathan ! Thanks for proving my point, you have lost sight of humility and have become so full of your own "importance" ! Go start your own church...not sure @wally will be a follower now that he knows your beliefs about the bible being written by the illumanti !!
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Post by xna on Feb 22, 2021 20:30:22 GMT -5
Will I burn in Hell of I don't see it like you?. ** It 's NOT me who need professional help but you, atheist. God will cast you in the LAKE of Fire for NOT believing in Jesus teaching Luke 16. As an unbeliever, your own sins will roast you in the fire by your choice. God wants to SAVE you from roasting but you don't believe the fire will burn you. Escaping from any religion unto an understanding that atheism is what is most true, and makes the most sense, is a great accomplishment! Many atheists feel sorry for those who are still held by the superstitions of religion, their hells and all. For an atheist, when a Christian threatens them with their hell it means about as much as warning them of other hells, which they and you will also dismiss for lack of any credible evidence. Do you fear these hells; Tartarus, Irkalla, Kasyrgan, Mictlan, Narak, Helheim, Avici, Swedenborg’s Hell, The House Of Lies, Black Thread Hell? If you need a religion then the logical thing would be to pick the religion with the worst hell and then join that religion. That way if you are wrong you avoid the worst hell.
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Post by nathan on Feb 22, 2021 20:31:18 GMT -5
You need to work out your own Salvation RT. It doesn't look good for you right now. My faith and trust in Jesus will help me from NOT to DIE the Second Death/Lake of fire but you are NOT. IF I were you watch your steps so you don't end up in the same place with Chuck/your new atheist buddy. Oh are you God now nathan ! Thanks for proving my point, you have lost sight of humility and have become so full of your own "importance" ! Go start your own church...not sure @wally will be a follower now that he knows your beliefs about the bible being written by the illumanti !! ** I just want to be honest with you! No lovey dovey, there is no Hell.. I didn't say the IlluminatI Write the Bible. Show me where I wrote the Illuminati wrote the Bible in any of my post, please. Don't add words, put your idea, thought into my post, please.
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Post by nathan on Feb 22, 2021 20:41:08 GMT -5
** It 's NOT me who need professional help but you, atheist. God will cast you in the LAKE of Fire for NOT believing in Jesus teaching Luke 16. As an unbeliever, your own sins will roast you in the fire by your choice. God wants to SAVE you from roasting but you don't believe the fire will burn you. Escaping from any religion unto an understanding that atheism is what is most true, and makes the most sense, is a great accomplishment! Many atheists feel sorry for those who are still held by the superstitions of religion, their hells and all. For an atheist, when a Christian threatens them with their hell it means about as much as warning them of other hells, which they and you will also dismiss for lack of any credible evidence. Do you fear these hells; Tartarus, Irkalla, Kasyrgan, Mictlan, Narak, Helheim, Avici, Swedenborg’s Hell, The House Of Lies, Black Thread Hell? If you need a religion then the logical thing would be to pick the religion with the worst hell and then join that religion. That way if you are wrong you avoid the worst hell. *** My God and Savior Jesus said the existence of Hades and heaven on Luke 16 so, I believe him. Jesus died on Calvary to pay for the sins of humanity, his Spirit went to HADES and God the Father resurrected him from the dead, and he went back to his home in heaven/Venus and He brought with him all of the Old Test. Believers souls with him.
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2021 20:43:35 GMT -5
Oh are you God now nathan ! Thanks for proving my point, you have lost sight of humility and have become so full of your own "importance" ! Go start your own church...not sure @wally will be a follower now that he knows your beliefs about the bible being written by the illumanti !! ** I just want to be honest with you! No lovey dovey, there is no Hell.. I didn't say the IlluminatI Write the Bible. Show me where I wrote the Illuminati wrote the Bible in any of my post, please. Don't add words, put your idea, thought into my post, please. Have a look at page 16 on the "try again" thread nathan, then have a look at @wally's response to you.
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Post by xna on Feb 22, 2021 20:44:08 GMT -5
Escaping from any religion unto an understanding that atheism is what is most true, and makes the most sense, is a great accomplishment! Many atheists feel sorry for those who are still held by the superstitions of religion, their hells and all. For an atheist, when a Christian threatens them with their hell it means about as much as warning them of other hells, which they and you will also dismiss for lack of any credible evidence. Do you fear these hells; Tartarus, Irkalla, Kasyrgan, Mictlan, Narak, Helheim, Avici, Swedenborg’s Hell, The House Of Lies, Black Thread Hell? If you need a religion then the logical thing would be to pick the religion with the worst hell and then join that religion. That way if you are wrong you avoid the worst hell. *** My God and Savior Jesus said the existence of Hades and heaven on Luke 16. He died his Spirit went to HADES and God the Father resurrected him from the dead, and he went back to his home in heaven/Venus and He brought with him all of the Old Test. Believers with him. Well then he can't use the excuse; "I had know idea how bad it was down their, otherwise I would have done something about that suffering".
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Post by chuck on Feb 22, 2021 20:53:06 GMT -5
Will I burn in Hell of I don't see it like you?. ** It 's NOT me who need professional help but you, atheist. God will cast you in the LAKE of Fire for NOT believing in Jesus teaching Luke 16. As an unbeliever, your own sins will roast you in the fire by your choice. God wants to SAVE you from roasting but you don't believe the fire will burn you. According to you. I see it differently. Will I burn in Hell for not seeing it like you?. I don't think you will burn in hell for not seeing it like me!.
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Post by xna on Feb 22, 2021 21:10:03 GMT -5
One problem with the Christian hell is; it's an infinite punishment for a finite crime. Which is immoral justice, on it's face.
Another is that it greatly diminishes the suffering of Jesus. Lets say Jesus suffered on the cross and other times for say 365 days. How long do those in hell suffer, 365,000 days, no, for an eternity! This makes Jesus suffering look trivial in the whole scheme of the Christian mythology.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 21:18:50 GMT -5
One problem with the Christian hell is; it's an infinite punishment for a finite crime. Which is immoral justice, on it's face. Another is that it greatly diminishes the suffering of Jesus. Lets say Jesus suffered on the cross and other times for say 365 days. How long do those in hell suffer, 365,000 days, no, for an eternity! This makes Jesus suffering look trivial in the whole scheme of the Christian mythology. ummm not really, he took on the sin(being 100% innocent and blameless)of BILLIONS of people past, present and future...there would have been no greater weight than that on anybody...
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Post by nathan on Feb 22, 2021 21:22:44 GMT -5
** I just want to be honest with you! No lovey dovey, there is no Hell.. I didn't say the IlluminatI Write the Bible. Show me where I wrote the Illuminati wrote the Bible in any of my post, please. Don't add words, put your idea, thought into my post, please. Have a look at page 16 on the "try again" thread nathan, then have a look at @wally's response to you. ** And I clarified Wally's post, did you read it?
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Post by xna on Feb 22, 2021 21:32:25 GMT -5
One problem with the Christian hell is; it's an infinite punishment for a finite crime. Which is immoral justice, on it's face. Another is that it greatly diminishes the suffering of Jesus. Lets say Jesus suffered on the cross and other times for say 365 days. How long do those in hell suffer, 365,000 days, no, for an eternity! This makes Jesus suffering look trivial in the whole scheme of the Christian mythology. ummm not really, he took on the sin(being 100% innocent and blameless)of BILLIONS of people past, present and future...there would have been no greater weight than that on anybody... According to the bible, all things was his plan, and he could have chosen not to have hell for anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 21:41:04 GMT -5
ummm not really, he took on the sin(being 100% innocent and blameless)of BILLIONS of people past, present and future...there would have been no greater weight than that on anybody... According to the bible, all things was his plan, and he could have chosen not to have hell for anyone. ummm...the nature of God cannot abide sin/evil...it has to go somewhere...otherwise were back to a robot universe again where there is no evil(i say thats impossible)....
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Post by xna on Feb 22, 2021 21:43:51 GMT -5
According to the bible, all things was his plan, and he could have chosen not to have hell for anyone. ummm...the nature of God cannot abide sin/evil...it has to go somewhere...otherwise were back to a robot universe again where there is no evil(i say thats impossible).... Is he able he control or change his nature, or would that be asking to much of a god?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 21:53:30 GMT -5
ummm...the nature of God cannot abide sin/evil...it has to go somewhere...otherwise were back to a robot universe again where there is no evil(i say thats impossible).... Can he control or change his nature? not on the good/evil in his presence thing that i am aware of. he does however have a method(that we can accept or not) for covering up/erasing-cleansing evil and that is through the shedding of Christs blood for everyone's sins...
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Post by xna on Feb 22, 2021 21:56:49 GMT -5
Can he control or change his nature? not on the good/evil in his presence thing that i am aware of. he does however have a method(that we can accept or not) for covering up/erasing-cleansing evil and that is through the shedding of Christs blood for everyone's sins... If he is bound by the good / evil rules, then who made up these rules?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 22:00:40 GMT -5
not on the good/evil in his presence thing that i am aware of. he does however have a method(that we can accept or not) for covering up/erasing-cleansing evil and that is through the shedding of Christs blood for everyone's sins... If he is bound by the good / evil rules, then who made up these rules? God IS good evil is just the opposite of all that. I'm not so sure he controls/makes it up. I.E he could not turn around and call evil good and good evil...its not in his nature to do that...to my understanding that is....
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Post by xna on Feb 22, 2021 22:07:26 GMT -5
If he is bound by the good / evil rules, then who made up these rules? God IS good evil is just the opposite of all that. I'm not so sure he controls/makes it up. I.E he could not turn around and call evil good and good evil...its not in his nature to do that...to my understanding that is.... Let me ask it differently. Could god make a world without evil?
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Post by nathan on Feb 22, 2021 22:16:48 GMT -5
*** My God and Savior Jesus said the existence of Hades and heaven on Luke 16. He died his Spirit went to HADES and God the Father resurrected him from the dead, and he went back to his home in heaven/Venus and He brought with him all of the Old Test. Believers with him. Well then he can't use the excuse; "I had know idea how bad it was down their, otherwise I would have done something about that suffering". Jesus KNEW how bad it was down in Hades READ Luke 16 and He warned people about NOT going there, the worse yet to come AFTER the Judgment day. That was one of the main reasons Jesus came down from heaven to DIE for our sins so, no human being should stay and suffer with regrets and torment in Hades or to be cast in the Lake of fire for Eternity!
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Post by nathan on Feb 22, 2021 22:21:56 GMT -5
God IS good evil is just the opposite of all that. I'm not so sure he controls/makes it up. I.E he could not turn around and call evil good and good evil...its not in his nature to do that...to my understanding that is.... Let me ask it differently. Could god make a world without evil? God the Father and Christ/God created the world with goodness without evil but Satan, 1/3 of the fallen angels, Adam and Eve, and billions humans choose Evil over good so they MUST pay for the their own choices/sins= Separation from God for eternity.
God can't allow evil to enter the New heaven and earth, it will ruin everything again like the last time Satan caused War in heaven.
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