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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 28, 2021 3:58:04 GMT -5
and an overseer or local worker can remove an elder from his position also...seen it happen... Yep! the workers can and should remove or relief the bad behaviors elders from their positions and churches in their homes to spare the flock from harm of their bad influences.Why don't you have a meeting in your home nathan ? Also why aren't you an Elder...considering you were a Worker ?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 28, 2021 4:01:41 GMT -5
Yep! the workers can and should remove or relief the bad behaviors elders from their positions and churches in their homes to spare the flock from harm of their bad influences. They might decide that you don't represent what the fellowship stands for. Well he certainly doesn't represent what the fellowship stands for fixit ! All he is doing here is misrepresenting it and big noting himself !
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Post by mountain on Jan 28, 2021 5:06:48 GMT -5
Yep! the workers can and should remove or relief the bad behaviors elders from their positions and churches in their homes to spare the flock from harm of their bad influences. Why don't you have a meeting in your home nathan ? Also why aren't you an Elder...considering you were a Worker ? This board is Nathan's meeting in the home. Here he is both elder and worker. We are all settled and listening under that tree at Guam via the internet. Let us not forget that.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 28, 2021 6:56:11 GMT -5
The 3 testimonies came from a 2x2, an ex-2x2, and a senior worker... they have read Speak and fixit posts for many years.... the elders who don't know them would be shocked at their behaviors for years on TMB.
If the elders, workers and the friends KNEW what I had to deal with on here like Curly/the unbeliever, the Witch, RT, and 100s more like them for over 20 years, they would understand my situation better. You have a problem Nathan, you fight and are nasty to everyone....everyone except me that is... but you need to grow up. You are not showing Christian behavior. God has not given you a ministry to destroy his name.. your behavior does not come from God. He has the "likeable" side with the workers and friends he meets with because he's too chicken to talk to them the way he talks to us.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 28, 2021 6:58:08 GMT -5
Why don't you have a meeting in your home nathan ? Also why aren't you an Elder...considering you were a Worker ? This board is Nathan's meeting in the home. Here he is both elder and worker. We are all settled and listening under that tree at Guam via the internet. Let us not forget that. It's a wonder he hasn't invited us to ZOOM gospel meetings already.
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Post by Annan on Jan 28, 2021 7:34:27 GMT -5
For the record I have never been a 2x2. Someone lied. Opps! My father professed, but not my mother, me, or my siblings.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jan 28, 2021 11:16:47 GMT -5
The "Perfect Way" should be free of CSA. Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
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Post by mountain on Jan 28, 2021 12:33:58 GMT -5
The Tree of Guam - It's relative significance. Thanks to Nathan for highlighting this!
John 1 (KJV)
44 Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.
45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
46 And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see.
47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!
48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.
49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
50 Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these.
51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 14:34:41 GMT -5
Yes, many of you from down under are considered outcast/non-exclusive 2x2s for years... You guys are the product seed of John long! the non-exclusive 2x2! ex-worker who was excommunicated in 1907= join the church of your choice, all preachers and Christians are SAVED as long you believe in Jesus.
In your mind. ** Not in my mind but from workers who went there from our staff and we had down under workers from that part come to our conmention preaching it is NOT godly to wear jeans skirts to conventions and he caused a big stir at our conventions.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 14:44:08 GMT -5
The Tree of Guam - It's relative significance. Thanks to Nathan for highlighting this! John 1 (KJV) 44 Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.
45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
46 And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see.
47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!
48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.
49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
50 Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these.
51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.*** I was going to post Philip testimony when Christ/Jesus heard his earnest prayers request to God! When he was under the fig tree praying so, how did Jesus knew his prayers thought UNLESS He is God the Christ. Philip and I have a special bond under the tree, where God/the Christ heard and answered our prayers and lead us to God the Father Truth and Way through Christ /God Jesus His Son. Christ indeed has revealed to me His Venusians humans looking angels have descending and ascending from heaven/Venus to earth and back and forth in our 21st generation to tell us Christ is coming back soon to establish His Eternal kingdom on earth with the true believers... Look up to heaven for your Redemption is drawing near! The NEW chapter will begin the 1000 yrs reign. The 2000 years of gospel invitation to the Gentiles to come inside of His kingdom has come to an end soon.
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Post by Grant on Jan 28, 2021 15:43:39 GMT -5
** Not in my mind but from workers who went there from our staff and we had down under workers from that part come to our conmention preaching it is NOT godly to wear jeans skirts to conventions and he caused a big stir at our conventions. Nothing like the stir that Leslie White and Hobbs caused. Secondly, you're not making sense, one minute you're saying down unders are non exclusive, next you're saying they're very legalistic which can also be seen as a form of exclusiveness. The truth is that you have no idea what the majority down under believe differently from the up and overs. Seems as if you're also out of touch with the changes which are taking place in your country. Not having family and friends in the 2x2s you have little information to judge it on. Even Wally is non exclusive and he lives up there.
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Post by mountain on Jan 28, 2021 15:59:21 GMT -5
The Tree of Guam - It's relative significance. Thanks to Nathan for highlighting this! John 1 (KJV) 44 Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.
45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
46 And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see.
47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!
48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.
49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
50 Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these.
51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.*** I was going to post Philip testimony when Christ/Jesus heard his earnest prayers request to God! When he was under the fig tree praying so, how did Jesus knew his prayers thought UNLESS He is God the Christ. God the Father revealed it to his only begotten son. These passages do NOT identify Jesus as God himself, but as the Son of God, the Son of Man, the Son of Joseph and other human being descriptions. Phillip also describes Jesus as the one who Moses and the Prophets described, none of whom called him God, but described him as a human being. Trust in what the word of God actually says. The fig tree does not authorise using the fig-ment of your imagination (Virgs).
Philip and I have a special bond under the tree, where God/the Christ heard and answered our prayers and lead us to God the Father Truth and Way through Christ /God Jesus His Son. Christ indeed has revealed to me His Venusians humans looking angels have descending and ascending from heaven/Venus to earth and back and forth in our 21st generation to tell us Christ is coming back soon to establish His Eternal kingdom on earth with the true believers... Look up to heaven for your Redemption is drawing near! The NEW chapter will begin the 1000 yrs reign. The 2000 years of gospel invitation to the Gentiles to come inside of His kingdom has come to an end soon.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 16:11:03 GMT -5
** Not in my mind but from workers who went there from our staff and we had down under workers from that part come to our conmention preaching it is NOT godly to wear jeans skirts to conventions and he caused a big stir at our conventions. Nothing like the stir that Leslie White and Hobbs caused. Secondly, you're not making sense, one minute you're saying down unders are non exclusive, next you're saying they're very legalistic which can also be seen as a form of exclusiveness. The truth is that you have no idea what the majority down under believe differently from the up and overs. Seems as if you're also out of touch with the changes which are taking place in your country. Not having family and friends in the 2x2s you have little information to judge it on. Even Wally is non exclusive and he lives up there. ** The 2x2s down under have been a trouble places for Many years! Since bill Carroll days... Legalalistic, lot of rules, do's and don'ts. They like to rules with an iron fists and it shows the down under exes and 2x2s on here through their posts for 20 years on TMB. The non-exclusive 2x2 are growing in numbers in down under and that is very scary indeed. The elders and overseer Lyle S. From Texas put their foot down with the non-exclusive Brandon. They could attend gospel meetings, partake the emblems but he could NOT give his testimony. Eventually, he left the 2x2 and joined with his girlfriend's Protestant church. I had been in the work for 8 yrs traveled to many states, Canada, stay and lived in 100s of the friends homes and see them how they live. I have many internet friends and workers around the world, they inform me. I have the local workers when I ask the certain things they tell me.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 16:21:37 GMT -5
*** I was going to post Philip testimony when Christ/Jesus heard his earnest prayers request to God! When he was under the fig tree praying so, how did Jesus knew his prayers thought UNLESS He is God the Christ. God the Father revealed it to his only begotten son. These passages do NOT identify Jesus as God himself, but as the Son of God, the Son of Man, the Son of Joseph and other human being descriptions. Phillip also describes Jesus as the one who Moses and the Prophets described, none of whom called him God, but described him as a human being. Trust in what the word of God actually says. The fig tree does not authorise using the fig-ment of your imagination (Virgs).
Philip and I have a special bond under the tree, where God/the Christ heard and answered our prayers and lead us to God the Father Truth and Way through Christ /God Jesus His Son. Christ indeed has revealed to me His Venusians humans looking angels have descending and ascending from heaven/Venus to earth and back and forth in our 21st generation to tell us Christ is coming back soon to establish His Eternal kingdom on earth with the true believers... Look up to heaven for your Redemption is drawing near! The NEW chapter will begin the 1000 yrs reign. The 2000 years of gospel invitation to the Gentiles to come inside of His kingdom has come to an end soon. ** Well, that is your own Anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God; Only the Father is God opinion for many years. Christ said in John 8:56-58 He is God Yahweh the I AM that IAM who appeared to Moses. The unbelieving Jews said that is Blasphemy! A man claimed to be God, Jesus was telling them the Truth but they didn't believe him. In Rev. 1:7-8 Jesus said IAM the Almighty God.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Feb 12, 2021 22:05:59 GMT -5
Women have been talking about sexual abuse amongst ourselves for a long time . It’s simple beyond TIME to have the conversation publicly !
RIGHT NOW VAN HALEN
To every life event I had there is a song in my soul . It is the above . I don’t know how to post it . If someone wishes to help that would be great . Van Halen Right Now Lyrics Cheers 🥂 💨 later peeps 👀
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Post by nathan on Feb 12, 2021 22:33:19 GMT -5
What a disgusting post. These 2 elders are very respected by the workers and saints in their country, not just their little meeting. It's easy to see why you have not been made an elder, Nathan. These guys are part of the team. You are not accountable to anyone. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. God has other plan for me, Enuf. being a 2x2 worker that is good enough for me. They are part of different team, the non-exclusive 2x2s from down under. This is what the worker from down under, 2x2s, exes think about these two elders from reading their posts on here...1) Reborn/2x2 from USA wrote: Here is some truth- Fixit/2x2 church elder has his own little AGENDA of OFF-ing people that are his true brothers or sisters in Christ by judging they have incorrect dogma. Speak/2x2 elder stands by and says nothing of the murderous spiritual intent there. No true brothers there. This has run parallel in this post pretty much the entire time. I brought it up yesterday because he would like to dispose of those whom he disagrees with. Here in the US this has happened to some, and quite frankly it is ugly. Thankful that my God will not let me go. 2) Openingact34 ex-2x2 wrote: I think she should look up some of the old threads where a senior worker (probably soon to be overseer) severely denounced fixit. Do you think you know better than a worker? On the other hand, Nathan and Wally have NEVER been condemned by ANY workers on here. They have been wonderful examples of what it means to be professing and the spirit of what I've always found among professing people, while others seek to change God's perfect way in the earth. Now speak/2x2 church elder has also turned against the workers and allied himself with fixit. "Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5. Apr 10, 2017 at 8:02pm @review005/2x2 worker said: Fixit/2x2 church elder, Hand it to you, you know the Scriptures, that is commendable. Your life and posts cause this Scripture to come to mind: "Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not." Apr 10, 2017 at 9:33pm @review005 said: It wasn't lightly or rashly I made that posting. It is made on the basis of observance and exposure to your postings over a long period of time. It is a sincere and honest statement of how I observe that you live. You love quoting Scripture to others but I am unable to see evidence of you applying it in your own life.
Oct 12, 2014 at 11:17am @review005 said: Why do you make thousands of posts over many years online but refuse a sincere genuine offer to meet worker/s whom you describe as 'good' or 'I have no problem with' to discuss your concerns? Or would you meet and discuss with parents who had children live and study in your city and who have spoken to me of their sorrow and disappointment of the influence you had upon their children while they were there? Please don't doubt that they would meet and discuss. No of course you won't...but you'll continue your anonymous daily online posting existence..... your life, your way, your reaping. Oct 12, 2014 at 1:44pm @review005 said: I have told you I am 100% ready to arrange a meeting with these parents. I would not post such unless it is fact. As I said I'm talking about concerns that I did not solicit nor seek for. In sadness they were shared by parents who have a love for the soul of their child. I knew nothing of you in real life or JO/ fixit TMB online life at the time. Apr 11, 2017 at 1:52am @review005 said: I have utmost respect for 99% of our elders. I have little respect for a man who is a smiling obsequious elder on Sunday morning and around the workers. Then takes his tie and suit jacket off, puts on his poster cloak on and posts in the manner that he does here. Yes I consider that to be hypocrisy. My sincere wish is that our kind, merciful and patient Heavenly Father will be able to help him before he gets too much older & beyond it. Dec 23, 2016 at 5:05pm @review005 said: I no longer response to fixit's baiting here; let him do as much as he wishes. Interestingly this 'resident' Sunday morning meeting elder is just the short smiley 'compliant' 'obliging' 'chap with the sisters in his field. no baiting there. Too scared I guess?? Doesn't want to 'spoil his testimony'. It's when he puts his partly anonymous 'fixit' jacket on that he gets a bit of 'dutch courage'!
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 13, 2021 0:52:59 GMT -5
What a disgusting post. These 2 elders are very respected by the workers and saints in their country, not just their little meeting. It's easy to see why you have not been made an elder, Nathan. These guys are part of the team. You are not accountable to anyone. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. God has other plan for me, Enuf. being a 2x2 worker that is good enough for me. They are part of different team, the non-exclusive 2x2s from down under. This is what the worker from down under, 2x2s, exes think about these two elders from reading their posts on here...1) Reborn/2x2 from USA wrote: Here is some truth- Fixit/2x2 church elder has his own little AGENDA of OFF-ing people that are his true brothers or sisters in Christ by judging they have incorrect dogma. Speak/2x2 elder stands by and says nothing of the murderous spiritual intent there. No true brothers there. This has run parallel in this post pretty much the entire time. I brought it up yesterday because he would like to dispose of those whom he disagrees with. Here in the US this has happened to some, and quite frankly it is ugly. Thankful that my God will not let me go. 2) Openingact34 ex-2x2 wrote: I think she should look up some of the old threads where a senior worker (probably soon to be overseer) severely denounced fixit. Do you think you know better than a worker? On the other hand, Nathan and Wally have NEVER been condemned by ANY workers on here. They have been wonderful examples of what it means to be professing and the spirit of what I've always found among professing people, while others seek to change God's perfect way in the earth. Now speak/2x2 church elder has also turned against the workers and allied himself with fixit. "Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5. Apr 10, 2017 at 8:02pm @review005/2x2 worker said: Fixit/2x2 church elder, Hand it to you, you know the Scriptures, that is commendable. Your life and posts cause this Scripture to come to mind: "Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not." Apr 10, 2017 at 9:33pm @review005 said: It wasn't lightly or rashly I made that posting. It is made on the basis of observance and exposure to your postings over a long period of time. It is a sincere and honest statement of how I observe that you live. You love quoting Scripture to others but I am unable to see evidence of you applying it in your own life.
Oct 12, 2014 at 11:17am @review005 said: Why do you make thousands of posts over many years online but refuse a sincere genuine offer to meet worker/s whom you describe as 'good' or 'I have no problem with' to discuss your concerns? Or would you meet and discuss with parents who had children live and study in your city and who have spoken to me of their sorrow and disappointment of the influence you had upon their children while they were there? Please don't doubt that they would meet and discuss. No of course you won't...but you'll continue your anonymous daily online posting existence..... your life, your way, your reaping. Oct 12, 2014 at 1:44pm @review005 said: I have told you I am 100% ready to arrange a meeting with these parents. I would not post such unless it is fact. As I said I'm talking about concerns that I did not solicit nor seek for. In sadness they were shared by parents who have a love for the soul of their child. I knew nothing of you in real life or JO/ fixit TMB online life at the time. Apr 11, 2017 at 1:52am @review005 said: I have utmost respect for 99% of our elders. I have little respect for a man who is a smiling obsequious elder on Sunday morning and around the workers. Then takes his tie and suit jacket off, puts on his poster cloak on and posts in the manner that he does here. Yes I consider that to be hypocrisy. My sincere wish is that our kind, merciful and patient Heavenly Father will be able to help him before he gets too much older & beyond it. Dec 23, 2016 at 5:05pm @review005 said: I no longer response to fixit's baiting here; let him do as much as he wishes. Interestingly this 'resident' Sunday morning meeting elder is just the short smiley 'compliant' 'obliging' 'chap with the sisters in his field. no baiting there. Too scared I guess?? Doesn't want to 'spoil his testimony'. It's when he puts his partly anonymous 'fixit' jacket on that he gets a bit of 'dutch courage'! So what do they think about you with all your JC lives in Venus, Frank Strangest crap nathan !
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Feb 13, 2021 13:40:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 14:16:00 GMT -5
Jesus is returning very soon Are you ready? very good point....
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Post by Annan on Feb 13, 2021 14:16:33 GMT -5
Jesus is returning very soon Are you ready? How soon is very soon? That's all you ever say. Nothing you have predicted has happened yet. Time to stop beating that dead horse, don't ya think?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 14:18:56 GMT -5
Jesus is returning very soon Are you ready? How soon is very soon? That's all you ever say. Nothing you have predicted has happened yet. Time to stop beating that dead horse, don't ya think? That's right. They keep saying soon, but it nev
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Post by nathan on Feb 13, 2021 15:16:19 GMT -5
How soon is very soon? That's all you ever say. Nothing you have predicted has happened yet. Time to stop beating that dead horse, don't ya think? That's right. They keep saying soon, but it never God wants to give you exes, and our love ones, and the rest of the world more time to REPENT of their sins and be born again to receive a NEW Spirit of God/Christ before they can ENTER the kingdom of heaven. Once the door of opportunity is closed then that's the end for the Gentiles era.
Peter explained why the delay of Jesus coming because God wants His mercy extend to others even the next 2000 years but it will come to an end soon. II Peter 3:9-13 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Feb 13, 2021 15:28:57 GMT -5
Verses provided with input from my mom who has the bible in her mind , she has professed for 79 years now . As well as another elder J. C. who just showed up to help with the moving . Yes I am blessed to still have these people in my life .
There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
They are stunned ! As I showed them the posts .
That’s all , back to self care .
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Post by Annan on Feb 13, 2021 16:23:27 GMT -5
Verses provided with input from my mom who has the bible in her mind , she has professed for 79 years now . As well as another elder J. C. who just showed up to help with the moving . Yes I am blessed to still have these people in my life . There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another? They are stunned ! As I showed them the posts . That’s all , back to self care . I've been thinking of you and hoping all was well. Glad you are taking care of yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 16:43:00 GMT -5
How soon is very soon? That's all you ever say. Nothing you have predicted has happened yet. Time to stop beating that dead horse, don't ya think? That's right. They keep saying soon, but it nev I was wondering if anyone would think that he came back, taking me mid-post, and leaving you sorry rascals! 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Feb 13, 2021 17:57:03 GMT -5
Thx all ! I am well and continue to focus on my mom and healing after the loss of my kids . I am peaceful and safe I am signing off again . Many unwarranted ill words spoken by some on here do not make for starting a day with joy and optimism . I continue to work on the CSA and will . But at a slow pace as court is only hearing present problems But we continue to move forward on a CALS . Peace out and stay safe all ! I need peace not drama by a few souls on here ! To every season there is a time A time to be silent and look within myself ! All of you please stay well .
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 13, 2021 20:09:01 GMT -5
Jesus is returning very soon Are you ready? Well, I keep looking busy, just in case.
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Post by nathan on Feb 13, 2021 20:42:57 GMT -5
Jesus is returning very soon Are you ready? Well, I keep looking busy, just in case. The Lord Jesus will come like a thief in the night is a metaphor and it is used to describe the manner of the Lord’s return. Saying “ as a thief ” means that the Lord Jesus will come secretly and quietly rather than openly or with great majesty and strength, and that we will not perceive Him easily.
Heb. 3:7-8 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness. Answer: The return of Jesus Christ is likened to the coming of a thief in the night. Two passages use the wording “a thief in the night”: Matthew 24:43, “Understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into,” and 1 Thessalonians 5:2, “You know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.” In Matthew 24, Jesus speaks of His second coming at the end of the tribulation. Paul calls it “the day of the Lord” in 1 Thessalonians 5. This is a day of divine retribution featuring astronomical upheaval and the visible “sign of the Son of Man” in the heavens (Matthew 24:29–30). Jesus says it will happen “after the tribulation of those days” (verse 29, ESV), a description that distinguishes this event from the rapture, which happens before the tribulation.How is the second coming going to be like a thief in the night? The key element of Jesus’ comparison is that no one will know when He will return. Just as a thief catches a household by surprise, Jesus will catch the unbelieving world by surprise when He returns in judgment. People will be “eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage” (verse 38), just as if they have all the time in the world. But then, before they know it, Judgment Day will be upon them (verses 40–41). Paul puts it this way: “While people are saying, ‘Peace and safety,’ destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape” (1 Thessalonians 5:3). The believer does not fear this swift and sudden judgment; the “thief in the night” will not catch us by surprise. Christians are in a separate category: “But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief” (1 Thessalonians 5:4). It is only those in darkness who will be taken unawares, and we “are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness” (verse 5). Praise the Lord, “God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ” (verse 9). The unsaved should heed Jesus’ warning: “Be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him” (Matthew 24:44). How can you be ready? God has provided the way for you to escape the judgment. That way is Jesus Christ (John 14:6). By accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you are granted forgiveness of sins, mercy, and salvation with the promise of everlasting life (John 3:16; Ephesians 2:8–9). The “thief” is coming, but you can be a child of the day. Don’t put it off; this is “the year of the Lord’s favor” (Luke 4:19). www.gotquestions.org/thief-in-the-night.html
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