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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2021 23:55:12 GMT -5
Here are testimonies about you and fixit... 1) Reborn/2x2 wrote: Here is some truth- Fixit/2x2 church elder has his own little AGENDA of OFF-ing people that are his true brothers or sisters in Christ by judging they have incorrect dogma. Speak/2x2 elder stands by and says nothing of the murderous spiritual intent there. No true brothers there. This has run parallel in this post pretty much the entire time. I brought it up yesterday because he would like to dispose of those whom he disagrees with. Here in the US this has happened to some, and quite frankly it is ugly. Thankful that my God will not let me go. 2) Openingact34 ex-2x2 wrote: I think she should look up some of the old threads where a senior worker (probably soon to be overseer) severely denounced fixit. Do you think you know better than a worker? On the other hand, Nathan and Wally have NEVER been condemned by ANY workers on here. They have been wonderful examples of what it means to be professing and the spirit of what I've always found among professing people, while others seek to change God's perfect way in the earth. Now speak/2x2 church elder has also turned against the workers and allied himself with fixit. "Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5. 3) Apr 10, 2017 at 8:02pm @review005/2x2 worker said:
Fixit/2x2 church elder, Hand it to you, you know the Scriptures, that is commendable. Your life and posts cause this Scripture to come to mind: "Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not." Apr 10, 2017 at 9:33pm @review005 said: It wasn't lightly or rashly I made that posting. It is made on the basis of observance and exposure to your postings over a long period of time. It is a sincere and honest statement of how I observe that you live. You love quoting Scripture to others but I am unable to see evidence of you applying it in your own life. Oct 12, 2014 at 11:17am @review005 said: Why do you make thousands of posts over many years online but refuse a sincere genuine offer to meet worker/s whom you describe as 'good' or 'I have no problem with' to discuss your concerns? Or would you meet and discuss with parents who had children live and study in your city and who have spoken to me of their sorrow and disappointment of the influence you had upon their children while they were there? Please don't doubt that they would meet and discuss. No of course you won't...but you'll continue your anonymous daily online posting existence..... your life, your way, your reaping. Oct 12, 2014 at 1:44pm @review005 said: I have told you I am 100% ready to arrange a meeting with these parents. I would not post such unless it is fact. As I said I'm talking about concerns that I did not solicit nor seek for. In sadness they were shared by parents who have a love for the soul of their child. I knew nothing of you in real life or JO/ fixit TMB online life at the time. Apr 11, 2017 at 1:52am @review005 said: I have utmost respect for 99% of our elders. I have little respect for a man who is a smiling obsequious elder on Sunday morning and around the workers. Then takes his tie and suit jacket off, puts on his poster cloak on and posts in the manner that he does here. Yes I consider that to be hypocrisy. My sincere wish is that our kind, merciful and patient Heavenly Father will be able to help him before he gets too much older & beyond it. Dec 23, 2016 at 5:05pm @review005 said: I no longer response to fixit's baiting here; let him do as much as he wishes. Interestingly this 'resident' Sunday morning meeting elder is just the short smiley 'compliant' 'obliging' 'chap with the sisters in his field. no baiting there. Too scared I guess?? Doesn't want to 'spoil his testimony'. It's when he puts his partly anonymous 'fixit' jacket on that he gets a bit of 'dutch courage'! What a load of crock, I spoken to review about his words on here and he is not proud of them. These words are meaningless because they are an accusation. I liked sparring with him, but was starting to get legitimately concerned for his sanity - these forums can really wind people up. If you see him, tell him ipsedixit says "cheers" and tell him sorry I vented my spleen at him so forcefully.
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Post by nathan on Jan 27, 2021 23:55:17 GMT -5
I know for a fact that if those Elders you speak of saw what you write here they would be horrified. same here. Confound it - I'm supposed to be a "bitter-ex"... and yet even I would defend the claim Speak makes - doctrine aside, I don't know an elder who would endorse this discourse. The 3 testimonies came from a 2x2, an ex-2x2, and a senior worker... they have read Speak and fixit posts for many years.... the elders who don't know them would be shocked at their behaviors for years on TMB.
If the elders, workers and the friends KNEW what I had to deal with on here like Curly/the unbeliever, the Witch, RT, and 100s more like them for over 20 years, they would understand my situation better.
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Post by nathan on Jan 27, 2021 23:56:51 GMT -5
I despise crooked, bad 2x2 elders.... I met quite a few my time in the work, but most of them are very honorable and I admired greatly. You and fixit are the worse elders I have ever met in my 40 plus years in the 2x2 fellowship. I met and known many elders... You mean they are worse than elders who have committed CSA? (you wanted to bring the topic back to CSA, no? ) I would hope you don't believe that. Like I said there are BAD elders and workers who committed CSA in our fellowship. There are Bad elders like fixit and Speak also.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 27, 2021 23:59:31 GMT -5
I know what I am and we all know you are not an Elder, it seems that you despise Elders. I despise crooked, bad 2x2 elders.... I met quite a few my time in the work, but most of them are very honorable and I admired greatly. You and fixit are the worse elders I have ever met in my 40 plus years in the 2x2 fellowship. I met and known many elders...They're undoubtedly lucky you never met them in person.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2021 23:59:33 GMT -5
You mean they are worse than elders who have committed CSA? (you wanted to bring the topic back to CSA, no? ) I would hope you don't believe that. Like I said there are BAD elders and workers who committed CSA in our fellowship. There are Bad elders too like fixit and Speak also.So you were meaning more that they were "the worst at being proper elders" rather than "the worst elders"? I can see how you could think that from your perspective. The fact that they are generally respected by bitter exes like myself probably doesn't count for all that much I suppose.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 0:02:12 GMT -5
I despise crooked, bad 2x2 elders.... I met quite a few my time in the work, but most of them are very honorable and I admired greatly. You and fixit are the worse elders I have ever met in my 40 plus years in the 2x2 fellowship. I met and known many elders... They're undoubtedly lucky you never met them in person. I am very likeable in real life... slippery BobW.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 0:03:44 GMT -5
Like I said there are BAD elders and workers who committed CSA in our fellowship. There are Bad elders too like fixit and Speak also. So you were meaning more that they were "the worst at being proper elders" rather than "the worst elders"? I can see how you could think that from your perspective. The fact that they are generally respected by bitter exes like myself probably doesn't count for all that much I suppose. Hey, that is your opinion, you have your opinion and I have mine.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 28, 2021 0:03:56 GMT -5
They're undoubtedly lucky you never met them in person. I am very likeable in real life... slippery BobW. If I believed that I'd go visit you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2021 0:07:34 GMT -5
So you were meaning more that they were "the worst at being proper elders" rather than "the worst elders"? I can see how you could think that from your perspective. The fact that they are generally respected by bitter exes like myself probably doesn't count for all that much I suppose. Hey, that is your opinion, you have your opinion and I have mine. fair enough
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 0:08:54 GMT -5
I am very likeable in real life... slippery BobW. If I believed that I'd go visit you. Please, I don't want slippery BobW. to come near me. You are too slippery and scary ex-2x2 guy, now! We met once before you were professing, that is enough for me.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 28, 2021 0:10:41 GMT -5
Right! Later on many evidence came out then Bill confessed he did have SEX with her and Bill was on the list of people also visited Epstein private island having sex with under age girls. Prags might need to dust off his contacts to get this to Bill Clinton's lawyers. It's no small thing falsely accusing a man of sex with underaged girls. If Bill took Nutty Nate to court for defamation, there would be no petrol station and no Mercedes.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 0:14:01 GMT -5
Prags might need to dust off his contacts to get this to Bill Clinton's lawyers. It's no small thing falsely accusing a man of sex with underaged girls. If Bill took Nutty Nate to court for defamation, there would be no petrol station and no Mercedes. haha, slick Willy is your kind of guy Curly/commy... I am very surprised Hillary is still married to that playboy guy. I admired her for still sticking to that guy when she KNOWS many of the sexual partners he has during their marriage... It must be opened marriage with those two.In October 2016, Leslie Millwee accused Bill Clinton of sexually assaulting her three times in 1980. Millwee was then an employee at a now-defunct Arkansas based television station, and Clinton was then governor of Arkansas. Millwee told Breitbart News that on each of the three occasions, Clinton came up behind her and fondled her breasts, and on the second occasion, he rubbed his crotch against her and came to orgasm. Paula Jones accused Clinton of exposing himself to her in 1991 as well as sexually harassing her; and Kathleen Willey accused Clinton of groping her without her consent in 1993. The Jones allegations became public in 1994, during Clinton's first term as president, while Willey's and Broaddrick's accusations became public in 1999, toward the end of Clinton's second term. Millwee did not make her accusations until 2016. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_assault_and_misconduct_allegationswww.bing.com/search?q=Bill+clinton+sexual+scandals&form=ANNTH1&refig=de4119b94f1f4aab8380801d96a74c0c&sp=-1&pq=bill+clinton+sexual+scandals&sc=0-28&qs=n&sk=&cvid=de4119b94f1f4aab8380801d96a74c0c
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 28, 2021 0:15:29 GMT -5
I am NOT a 2x2 elder, but you are. Don't you recognize that? I hope you are NOT deceiving yourself. I know what I am and we all know you are not an Elder, it seems that you despise Elders. I reckon he would like to be thought of as an elder, just like he would like to be thought of as a worker. What's that one about a chap planting a feather and thinking he would get a chicken?
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 0:21:56 GMT -5
I know what I am and we all know you are not an Elder, it seems that you despise Elders. I reckon he would like to be thought of as an elder, just like he would like to be thought of as a worker. What's that one about a chap planting a feather and thinking he would get a chicken? Commy, cheater Curly What do you mean to be thought of as a worker... I had been a worker, and that is good enough... been there done that. Now, I am a private citizen of a 2x2.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2021 0:28:10 GMT -5
God's rules apply to everyone...elder Oh what a nice spin to abdicate ones self from responsibility. if God's rules don't apply to everyone why would unbelievers be punished for not following them at the very end of time? good try elder...
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Post by fixit on Jan 28, 2021 0:29:50 GMT -5
I don't care how you do it in Vietnam, but in the US one is innocent until proved guilty in a court of law. Until then, it's slander. I've noticed you're rather prolific with that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2021 0:32:43 GMT -5
uh oh, your post lacks the nature of the lamb, everything is suppose to be sugar and spice and everything nice right? How does my post lack the nature of the Lamb? YOUR version of the nature of the lamb is ALL sugar and spice and everything nice. how does saying someone's post is disgusting fit into that?
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 0:33:35 GMT -5
haha, slick Willy is your kind of guy Curly/commy... I am very surprised Hillary is still married to that playboy guy. I admired her for still sticking to that guy when she KNOWS many of the sexual partners he has during their marriage... It must be opened marriage with those two.In October 2016, Leslie Millwee accused Bill Clinton of sexually assaulting her three times in 1980. Millwee was then an employee at a now-defunct Arkansas based television station, and Clinton was then governor of Arkansas. Millwee told Breitbart News that on each of the three occasions, Clinton came up behind her and fondled her breasts, and on the second occasion, he rubbed his crotch against her and came to orgasm. Paula Jones accused Clinton of exposing himself to her in 1991 as well as sexually harassing her; and Kathleen Willey accused Clinton of groping her without her consent in 1993. The Jones allegations became public in 1994, during Clinton's first term as president, while Willey's and Broaddrick's accusations became public in 1999, toward the end of Clinton's second term. Millwee did not make her accusations until 2016. Clinton has admitted extramarital relationships with Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers, both of which have generally been accepted as consensual. However, some commentators have nonetheless characterized Clinton's affair with Lewinsky, who was at the time a White House intern, as sexual misconduct because of the vast power imbalance between a president and an intern; Lewinsky was 22 at the time and described the relationship as completely consensual.[5] In 2018, Lewinsky herself began to question her long-standing view that her relationship with Clinton had been consensual, characterizing the relationship as a "gross abuse of power" wherein the power differential between the two was so great that "consent might well be rendered moot."[6]Charges of sexual misconduct on Bill Clinton's part resurfaced during the 2016 presidential campaign of his wife, Hillary Clinton. When a lewd recording of Hillary's opponent Donald Trump discussing the ability to grope women when in power was released during the campaign, Bill Clinton's accusers, Broaddrick, Willey, and Jones reemerged as critics of Hillary Clinton, accusing her of enabling her husband's alleged sexual assaults on them. Two days after the release of the recording, they appeared as guests at the second 2016 presidential debate and referenced Bill Clinton in pre-debate statements.[7][8][9] During the 1990s, most Democrats suspended judgment on the three accusations or stated that they believed Clinton's denials.[citation needed] In the wake of the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse cases in 2017 and the many other such cases that emerged in the aftermath, the allegations against Clinton have been revisited.[10][11][12]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_assault_and_misconduct_allegationswww.bing.com/search?q=Bill+clinton+sexual+scandals&form=ANNTH1&refig=de4119b94f1f4aab8380801d96a74c0c&sp=-1&pq=bill+clinton+sexual+scandals&sc=0-28&qs=n&sk=&cvid=de4119b94f1f4aab8380801d96a74c0c I don't care how you do it in Vietnam, but in the US one is innocent until proved guilty in a court of law. Until then, it's slander. I've noticed you're rather prolific with that. You must be blind as a bat from down under! Open your eyes WIDE open, mate....So, you can see better! This is America, I don't live in Vietnam anymore, mate.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 28, 2021 0:38:26 GMT -5
I don't care how you do it in Vietnam, but in the US one is innocent until proved guilty in a court of law. Until then, it's slander. I've noticed you're rather prolific with that. I wonder how muvh Breitbart paid Millwee to make that up?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2021 0:40:02 GMT -5
Oh what a nice spin to abdicate ones self from responsibility. if God's rules don't apply to everyone why would unbelievers be punished for not following them at the very end of time? good try elder... I had thought Jesus paid that price. Is that not the fundamental premise of Christianity?
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 0:40:47 GMT -5
I don't care how you do it in Vietnam, but in the US one is innocent until proved guilty in a court of law. Until then, it's slander. I've noticed you're rather prolific with that. I wonder how muvh Breitbart paid Millwee to make that up? During the 1990s, most Democrats suspended judgment on the three accusations or stated that they believed Clinton's denials.[citation needed] In the wake of the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse cases in 2017 and the many other such cases that emerged in the aftermath, the allegations against Clinton have been revisited.[10][11][12]By late 2017, the allegations against Clinton and his standing within the Democratic Party were being reconsidered. This was prompted as a result of the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse allegations, which quickly triggered the Weinstein effect and the #MeToo phenomenon, with as a consequence liberals and feminists reconsidering their lack of support for the alleging women at the time.[28][30][36] Michelle Goldberg wrote that Broaddrick's allegations meant that "Bill Clinton no longer has a place in decent society."[37]
Sitting U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, who had succeeded Hillary Clinton in the Senate, went so far as to say Clinton should have resigned the presidency over his misconduct.[38] A HuffPost/YouGov survey alleged that 53 percent of people who voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election believed that the accusations against Bill Clinton were credible, while 83 percent of Trump voters found the accusations credible.[39]
When asked in 2018 whether he would have approached the sexual misconduct allegations differently in the wake of the #MeToo movement, Clinton said that he would not.[40] Asked if he owed Monica Lewinsky a personal apology, he said that he did not.[40]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_assault_and_misconduct_allegations
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 28, 2021 0:43:53 GMT -5
How does my post lack the nature of the Lamb? YOUR version of the nature of the lamb is ALL sugar and spice and everything nice. how does saying someone's post is disgusting fit into that? Lambs can find things disgusting, you know.
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Post by speak on Jan 28, 2021 0:44:22 GMT -5
Oh what a nice spin to abdicate ones self from responsibility. if God's rules don't apply to everyone why would unbelievers be punished for not following them at the very end of time? good try elder... That's not what I said. I said you have spun it in such a way that it absolves you and your bosom buddy of the responsibility of showing a caring lamb like nature.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 28, 2021 0:46:41 GMT -5
if God's rules don't apply to everyone why would unbelievers be punished for not following them at the very end of time? good try elder... I had thought Jesus paid that price. Is that not the fundamental premise of Christianity? In Wally's jurisdiction that's not the "message".
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Post by speak on Jan 28, 2021 0:47:01 GMT -5
same here. Confound it - I'm supposed to be a "bitter-ex"... and yet even I would defend the claim Speak makes - doctrine aside, I don't know an elder who would endorse this discourse. The 3 testimonies came from a 2x2, an ex-2x2, and a senior worker... they have read Speak and fixit posts for many years.... the elders who don't know them would be shocked at their behaviors for years on TMB.
If the elders, workers and the friends KNEW what I had to deal with on here like Curly/the unbeliever, the Witch, RT, and 100s more like them for over 20 years, they would understand my situation better.I don't care if they come from venus your behaviour is disgusting.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 0:47:59 GMT -5
if God's rules don't apply to everyone why would unbelievers be punished for not following them at the very end of time? good try elder... That's not what I said. I said you have spun it in such a way that it absolves you and your bosom buddy of the responsibility of showing a caring lamb like nature. Wally and I have... the wolves in sheep clothing can't see it.
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Post by speak on Jan 28, 2021 0:48:10 GMT -5
I despise crooked, bad 2x2 elders.... I met quite a few my time in the work, but most of them are very honorable and I admired greatly. You and fixit are the worse elders I have ever met in my 40 plus years in the 2x2 fellowship. I met and known many elders... They're undoubtedly lucky you never met them in person. I get the shudders just reading his post on here.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2021 0:48:55 GMT -5
The 3 testimonies came from a 2x2, an ex-2x2, and a senior worker... they have read Speak and fixit posts for many years.... the elders who don't know them would be shocked at their behaviors for years on TMB.
If the elders, workers and the friends KNEW what I had to deal with on here like Curly/the unbeliever, the Witch, RT, and 100s more like them for over 20 years, they would understand my situation better. I don't care if they come from venus your behaviour is disgusting. You and fixit are wolves in sheep clothing, mate. The thought of that make me very unhappy for years, Tares among the Wheat that Jesus speaks of in Matthew 13.
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