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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 10, 2020 12:53:21 GMT -5
Lies, lies and lies.
Jimmy Carter, while not being a great President, and suffering from paralysis by analysis, was a good man, and still gives of himself in Habitat for Humanity.
He saw an object in the sky once, that he reported as being an Unidentified Object. Not an alien spacecraft. It was later proven to be a high altitude Barium Cloud which was released into the atmosphere as part of a testing regime, and the colour changes it presented as it became ionised is consistent with what he saw. The time and date at Eglin also matched the records at the Eglin rocket range of the Barium cloud being released.
Jimmy himself said, that he did not believe he was witnessing an alien spacecraft. In a 2007 interview with the Skeptics Guide to the Universe, he stated that he did not believe that the earth had been visited by extra terrestrials. He also stated that he knew of no government cover-up of extra terrestrial visits, and that rumours of the CIA not giving him information was untrue.
So either Jimmy Carter was lying, or you are....let the readers decide.
That being said, it would be presumptive and arrogant to say that are not alone in the universe. But this stuff you peddle is simply horse feathers!
Like I have said in the past about you, you are saying things and events happened which you have little or no clues about, then you called me liar. That is pathetic, when I have time I will dig up the document about President Jimmy Carter gave the Green light on Aliens war and rescue mission at Dulce, New Mexico 1979.
I have TWO witnesses who live to tell the rescue mission and the alien war in 1979, one of them was Phil S. and the other is captain Mark R. who led the mission is still alive and talks about it.
Except Jimmy has never heard of it. That is why you are a liar.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 10, 2020 12:54:39 GMT -5
Yep, and I'm quite happy about that as a slight wind change and it would have been in town. It snowed on the Tuesday? which dampened the fire down. It burnt about 4000 hectares of wildling pines which is no loss but it also burnt several lovely homes and things like woolsheds. It's only a small fire by Australian or USA standards but it was still quite devastating to our small community. I'm sure it was. My sister lives in Oregon USA and is dealing with wildfires that are encroaching the edge of the city where she lives. Yellow skies and ash falling everywhere. No evacuation orders yet for her, but many towns have been totally destroyed. She is getting ready to head out. She is heartbroken. She is born and bred from Pennsylvania on the other side of the country, but has made Oregon her home for over thirty years. Fire is a useful servant but a terrible master.
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Post by nathan on Sept 10, 2020 14:10:19 GMT -5
*** Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit= 2. The Holy Spirit is not a person. It replaced Christ. You're shy of one person. ** The Holy Spirit is God and Jesus called Him a "He" in John chapters 15-16.
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Post by Annan on Sept 10, 2020 17:53:56 GMT -5
The Holy Spirit is not a person. It replaced Christ. You're shy of one person. ** The Holy Spirit is God and Jesus called Him a "He" in John chapters 15-16. *** God/Jesus/HS = ONE according to you. Try again.
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Post by nathan on Sept 10, 2020 20:08:36 GMT -5
** The Holy Spirit is God and Jesus called Him a "He" in John chapters 15-16. *** God/Jesus/HS = ONE according to you. Try again. ** Why are you keep on TWISTING my words again and again. Where did I say God/Jesus/H.Spirit are ONE being?
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Post by mountain on Sept 11, 2020 6:40:30 GMT -5
The Holy Spirit is not a person. It replaced Christ. You're shy of one person. ** The Holy Spirit is God and Jesus called Him a "He" in John chapters 15-16. In many languages inanimate subjects are not gender neutral and are referred to as 'he' or 'she.' English speaking people are less used to this than most of the world and when reading the Bible are often misled due to this 'ignorance.' In Poland a newspaper may have the gender of male (he rather than it) and a Pole might say "I am going out to buy a newspaper and I will bring 'him' home.' On return, the person to whom the original statement was addressed might remark to the person on his/her return...'Did you get him?' (rather than it). A further reply might be 'Here he is. I will put him down on the table.' This does not make a newspaper an actual person. This is not to say that the Holy Spirit is an inanimate subject. Rather the opposite. It is a 'living' spirit and proceeds from the Father. It is the Father's spirit and the Father's spirit only. There should be no doubt about this at all, especially from a true believer as Jesus himself tells us this. Today Jesus has control of the Holy Spirit. It has replaced him on the Earth. It occupies every true believer. Many, like yourself have been confused by the gender status of the Holy Spirit. It/he is variously referred to in the English language by the gender neutral term 'it' or the gender specific term of 'he.' However, I must stress that we should not confuse a newspaper with the Holy Spirit. You are still shy of one person for your 2x2 format. You are not going to get away with suggesting a newspaper, so don't get any ideas about nipping out to the newsagents.
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Post by Annan on Sept 11, 2020 7:46:02 GMT -5
*** God/Jesus/HS = ONE according to you. Try again. ** Why are you keep on TWISTING my words again and again. Where did I say God/Jesus/H.Spirit are ONE being? *** Now you're splitting hairs. The trinity = ONE. Make up your mind.
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Post by nathan on Sept 11, 2020 8:57:56 GMT -5
** Why are you keep on TWISTING my words again and again. Where did I say God/Jesus/H.Spirit are ONE being? *** Now you're splitting hairs. The trinity = ONE. Make up your mind. You don't UNDERSTAND the TRUE Trinity doctrine you are so confuse and say all kinds of incorrect belief about the Godhead/Triune God.
God/Elohim/plural said in Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it."
1) God the Father is God is the Most High God of the 3 who sits in heaven. People ONLY heard Him speaking from heaven. 2) Christ is God, the Second Person of the 3 who came down from heaven to die for our sins. Christ/God has come down from heaven in human form in Genesis to Revelation. Genesis chapter 1 and had fellowship with Adam and Eve. Christ is the Creator of all things. 3) The Holy Spirit is God, the 3rd Person of the Triune God who came down from heaven to carry on the gospel work of Christ with the apostles and his followers until Jesus comes again to set up His eternal kingdom.
There is ONE Godhead; 3 separate beings/Spirit.
I John 5:7-8, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one"~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls found in caves 1947) I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him.I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind ... and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind. It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live. Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you! It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me. Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.” Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen! You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 11, 2020 14:42:03 GMT -5
*** Now you're splitting hairs. The trinity = ONE. Make up your mind. You don't UNDERSTAND the TRUE Trinity doctrine you are so confuse and say all kinds of incorrect belief about the Godhead/Triune God.
God/Elohim/plural said in Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it."
1) God the Father is God is the Most High God of the 3 who sits in heaven. People ONLY heard Him speaking from heaven. 2) Christ is God, the Second Person of the 3 who came down from heaven to die for our sins. Christ/God has come down from heaven in human form in Genesis to Revelation. Genesis chapter 1 and had fellowship with Adam and Eve. Christ is the Creator of all things. 3) The Holy Spirit is God, the 3rd Person of the Triune God who came down from heaven to carry on the gospel work of Christ with the apostles and his followers until Jesus comes again to set up His eternal kingdom.
There is ONE Godhead; 3 separate beings/Spirit.
I John 5:7-8, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one"~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls found in caves 1947) I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him.I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind ... and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind. It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live. Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you! It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me. Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.” Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen! You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges
Nathan, have you ever asked yourself why Frank Stranges called himself Doctor?
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Post by nathan on Sept 11, 2020 16:10:24 GMT -5
You don't UNDERSTAND the TRUE Trinity doctrine you are so confuse and say all kinds of incorrect belief about the Godhead/Triune God.
God/Elohim/plural said in Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it."
1) God the Father is God is the Most High God of the 3 who sits in heaven. People ONLY heard Him speaking from heaven. 2) Christ is God, the Second Person of the 3 who came down from heaven to die for our sins. Christ/God has come down from heaven in human form in Genesis to Revelation. Genesis chapter 1 and had fellowship with Adam and Eve. Christ is the Creator of all things. 3) The Holy Spirit is God, the 3rd Person of the Triune God who came down from heaven to carry on the gospel work of Christ with the apostles and his followers until Jesus comes again to set up His eternal kingdom.
There is ONE Godhead; 3 separate beings/Spirit.
I John 5:7-8, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one"~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls found in caves 1947) I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him.I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind ... and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind. It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live. Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you! It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me. Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.” Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen! You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges
Nathan, have you ever asked yourself why Frank Stranges called himself Doctor? Frank Stranges was NOT a medical doctor, he had a doctor degree in theology from the Bible seminary school.
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Post by Annan on Sept 11, 2020 16:21:46 GMT -5
*** Now you're splitting hairs. The trinity = ONE. Make up your mind. You don't UNDERSTAND the TRUE Trinity doctrine you are so confuse and say all kinds of incorrect belief about the Godhead/Triune God. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges *** So now it's the scriptures according to stranges. Holy sh*t!
That sure explains a lot about you, Nathan.
And, please, let's ignore all the other verses that say otherwise. I listed them for you a week or so ago but you refused to acknowledge them. Par for the course when the scriptures disprove your claims.
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Post by Annan on Sept 11, 2020 16:29:20 GMT -5
Nathan, have you ever asked yourself why Frank Stranges called himself Doctor? Frank Stranges was NOT a medical doctor, he had a doctor degree in theology from the Bible seminary school. *** Please provide proof of stranges doctorate and other degrees he claims to have. Class pictures too, please. Stranges is a liar, that puts all his claims into question. What schools did he attend? Proof, please.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 11, 2020 16:33:08 GMT -5
Nathan, have you ever asked yourself why Frank Stranges called himself Doctor? Frank Stranges was NOT a medical doctor, he had a doctor degree in theology from the Bible seminary school. Have you checked out his claim that he has a doctorate in theology from that bible school?
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Post by intelchips on Sept 11, 2020 16:44:22 GMT -5
Frank Stranges was NOT a medical doctor, he had a doctor degree in theology from the Bible seminary school. *** Please provide proof of stranges doctorate and other degrees he claims to have. Class pictures too, please. Stranges is a liar, that puts all his claims into question. What schools did he attend? Proof, please. From where did he get his doctorate? No one knows. And if he had genuine academic credentials, why did he own a diploma mill?
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Post by nathan on Sept 11, 2020 16:44:35 GMT -5
You don't UNDERSTAND the TRUE Trinity doctrine you are so confuse and say all kinds of incorrect belief about the Godhead/Triune God. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges *** So now it's the scriptures according to stranges. Holy sh*t!
That sure explains a lot about you, Nathan.
And, please, let's ignore all the other verses that say otherwise. I listed them for you a week or so ago but you refused to acknowledge them. Par for the course when the scriptures disprove your claims. *** The first part came from me. The article Jesus is God came from Frank E Stranges. It was spoken and perhaps written by Jesus Christ Himself and was given to Frank S. to post the article for all the world to read it.
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Post by Annan on Sept 11, 2020 16:48:55 GMT -5
*** So now it's the scriptures according to stranges. Holy sh*t!
That sure explains a lot about you, Nathan.
And, please, let's ignore all the other verses that say otherwise. I listed them for you a week or so ago but you refused to acknowledge them. Par for the course when the scriptures disprove your claims. ...The article Jesus is God came from Frank E Stranges. It was spoken and perhaps written by Jesus Christ Himself and was given to Frank S. to post the article for all the world to read it. BS, Nathan. Franks Stranges and His Pedigrees
Recently we talked about the urban legend of a Venusian guest of the US government named Valiant Thor. He was the invention of author Frank Stranges, and in the episode, we looked at Stranges' suspicious list of degrees, honors, and appointments. It turns out they were all from nonexistent institutions or were nonexistent degrees, and apparently, even his family didn't know that he made them all up.
Turns out that rabbit hole was deeper than I knew. Listener Karl wrote in with some information about the UFO-based religion "The Aetherius Society":
While researching the odd life of its founder George King, I uncovered his interactions with Frank Stranges. So I was happy to hear you cover more about this odd character. King, like Stranges, made all kinds of claims about people from Venus warning us about the dangers of nuclear war. It seems like Frank ran a diploma mill himself and awarded King a PhD. It's curious these guys spent a lot of time awarding each other advanced degrees and high sounding titles like Bishop. I also uncovered an interesting link to a group called the American Federation of Police. Both King and Stranges claimed to be Chaplains for this group. From what I can tell the American Federation of Police is part charity scam and part diploma/title mill. For a fee, you can burnish your law and order cred by getting some kind of fancy sounding but meaningless title from the group, plus fancy patches and badges.
This is apparently all it took for TV's Ancient Aliens to describe Stranges as "A federal marshal and chaplain who had top secret security clearance at the Pentagon," not one word of which was true.
skeptoid.com/episodes/4688
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 11, 2020 17:24:21 GMT -5
*** Please provide proof of stranges doctorate and other degrees he claims to have. Class pictures too, please. Stranges is a liar, that puts all his claims into question. What schools did he attend? Proof, please. From where did he get his doctorate? No one knows. And if he had genuine academic credentials, why did he own a diploma mill? Here's your answer Intel. Nathan won't like the answer for two reasons: One, it's the truth, and two, it screws up his dearly held beliefs. If he was a decent chap and was honest in seeking the truth he would have figured this out a long time ago. There are other problems with Stranges' credentials. His author's biography says that he received a bachelor's degree in theology plus Ph.Ds in both psychology and philosophy from Faith Theological Seminary in Florida. Faith Theological Seminary is a real accredited religious college, but does not offer Ph.Ds in either discipline. In his later years he began also claiming a Ph.D in Criminology from the National Institute of Criminology in Washington, D.C., but there is no such institution. There are several unaccredited universities with similar names overseas, but none of them offer Ph.Ds at all. Nevertheless, Stranges has written as "Dr. Frank E. Stranges" ever since. With so many problems right out of the gate, who would give his book any credence? That is from Skeptoid. Thanks Skeptoid.
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Post by nathan on Sept 11, 2020 17:30:17 GMT -5
*** Please provide proof of stranges doctorate and other degrees he claims to have. Class pictures too, please. Stranges is a liar, that puts all his claims into question. What schools did he attend? Proof, please. From where did he get his doctorate? No one knows. And if he had genuine academic credentials, why did he own a diploma mill? *** I have posted his lecture in Kona Hawaii 2007 so many years on here. He told the audience of his background and which year he attended the Bible Seminary and got his doctorate degree. When I get home let me find his video lecture and posted on here again.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 11, 2020 17:35:13 GMT -5
** The Holy Spirit is God and Jesus called Him a "He" in John chapters 15-16. In many languages inanimate subjects are not gender neutral and are referred to as 'he' or 'she.' English speaking people are less used to this than most of the world and when reading the Bible are often misled due to this 'ignorance.' In Poland a newspaper may have the gender of male (he rather than it) and a Pole might say "I am going out to buy a newspaper and I will bring 'him' home.' On return, the person to whom the original statement was addressed might remark to the person on his/her return...'Did you get him?' (rather than it). A further reply might be 'Here he is. I will put him down on the table.' This does not make a newspaper an actual person. This is not to say that the Holy Spirit is an inanimate subject. Rather the opposite. It is a 'living' spirit and proceeds from the Father. It is the Father's spirit and the Father's spirit only. There should be no doubt about this at all, especially from a true believer as Jesus himself tells us this. Today Jesus has control of the Holy Spirit. It has replaced him on the Earth. It occupies every true believer. Many, like yourself have been confused by the gender status of the Holy Spirit. It/he is variously referred to in the English language by the gender neutral term 'it' or the gender specific term of 'he.' However, I must stress that we should not confuse a newspaper with the Holy Spirit. You are still shy of one person for your 2x2 format. You are not going to get away with suggesting a newspaper, so don't get any ideas about nipping out to the newsagents. In many languages, French and Spanish are examples, ALL nouns have gender, animate or not. Consequently there is NO neutral word for it. The word's gender derives primarily from the phonetics of the noun. A computer [un ordinateur]is masculine, so the pronouns for it are il and le -- as for all masculine living beings -- man, bull, etc. One term for a penis [une verge] is feminine, and presumably is discussed with such pronouns as elle and la -- as for all feminine beings -- cow, doll, etc. In German all nouns are classified as either masculine, feminine, and neuter -- but it's not "logical. For example, of forks, knives, and spoons -- one is masculine, one is feminine, and one is neuter. It is what it is.
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Post by mountain on Sept 11, 2020 17:58:14 GMT -5
In many languages inanimate subjects are not gender neutral and are referred to as 'he' or 'she.' English speaking people are less used to this than most of the world and when reading the Bible are often misled due to this 'ignorance.' In Poland a newspaper may have the gender of male (he rather than it) and a Pole might say "I am going out to buy a newspaper and I will bring 'him' home.' On return, the person to whom the original statement was addressed might remark to the person on his/her return...'Did you get him?' (rather than it). A further reply might be 'Here he is. I will put him down on the table.' This does not make a newspaper an actual person. This is not to say that the Holy Spirit is an inanimate subject. Rather the opposite. It is a 'living' spirit and proceeds from the Father. It is the Father's spirit and the Father's spirit only. There should be no doubt about this at all, especially from a true believer as Jesus himself tells us this. Today Jesus has control of the Holy Spirit. It has replaced him on the Earth. It occupies every true believer. Many, like yourself have been confused by the gender status of the Holy Spirit. It/he is variously referred to in the English language by the gender neutral term 'it' or the gender specific term of 'he.' However, I must stress that we should not confuse a newspaper with the Holy Spirit. You are still shy of one person for your 2x2 format. You are not going to get away with suggesting a newspaper, so don't get any ideas about nipping out to the newsagents. In many languages, French and Spanish are examples, ALL nouns have gender, animate or not. Consequently there is NO neutral word for it. The word's gender derives primarily from the phonetics of the noun. A computer [un ordinateur]is masculine, so the pronouns for it are il and le -- as for all masculine living beings -- man, bull, etc. One term for a penis [une verge] is feminine, and presumably is discussed with such pronouns as elle and la -- as for all feminine beings -- cow, doll, etc. In German all nouns are classified as either masculine, feminine, and neuter -- but it's not "logical. For example, of forks, knives, and spoons -- one is masculine, one is feminine, and one is neuter. It is what it is. Bob, thanks for taking the time to explain things more thoroughly than I did. However, it will fall on deaf ears...i.e. those that don't want to have an ear to hear!
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 11, 2020 18:19:04 GMT -5
In many languages, French and Spanish are examples, ALL nouns have gender, animate or not. Consequently there is NO neutral word for it. The word's gender derives primarily from the phonetics of the noun. A computer [un ordinateur]is masculine, so the pronouns for it are il and le -- as for all masculine living beings -- man, bull, etc. One term for a penis [une verge] is feminine, and presumably is discussed with such pronouns as elle and la -- as for all feminine beings -- cow, doll, etc. In German all nouns are classified as either masculine, feminine, and neuter -- but it's not "logical. For example, of forks, knives, and spoons -- one is masculine, one is feminine, and one is neuter. It is what it is. Bob, thanks for taking the time to explain things more thoroughly than I did. However, it will fall on deaf ears...i.e. those that don't want to have an ear to hear! That's all right. I just write for those who may be interested. My first career was in languages and linguistics for 20 years, then morphed to social sciences for the next 20 years. Retired but still greatly interested in it all.
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Post by nathan on Sept 11, 2020 18:32:32 GMT -5
...The article Jesus is God came from Frank E Stranges. It was spoken and perhaps written by Jesus Christ Himself and was given to Frank S. to post the article for all the world to read it. BS, Nathan. Franks Stranges and His Pedigrees
Recently we talked about the urban legend of a Venusian guest of the US government named Valiant Thor. He was the invention of author Frank Stranges, and in the episode, we looked at Stranges' suspicious list of degrees, honors, and appointments. It turns out they were all from nonexistent institutions or were nonexistent degrees, and apparently, even his family didn't know that he made them all up.
Turns out that rabbit hole was deeper than I knew. Listener Karl wrote in with some information about the UFO-based religion "The Aetherius Society":
While researching the odd life of its founder George King, I uncovered his interactions with Frank Stranges. So I was happy to hear you cover more about this odd character. King, like Stranges, made all kinds of claims about people from Venus warning us about the dangers of nuclear war. It seems like Frank ran a diploma mill himself and awarded King a PhD. It's curious these guys spent a lot of time awarding each other advanced degrees and high sounding titles like Bishop. I also uncovered an interesting link to a group called the American Federation of Police. Both King and Stranges claimed to be Chaplains for this group. From what I can tell the American Federation of Police is part charity scam and part diploma/title mill. For a fee, you can burnish your law and order cred by getting some kind of fancy sounding but meaningless title from the group, plus fancy patches and badges.
This is apparently all it took for TV's Ancient Aliens to describe Stranges as "A federal marshal and chaplain who had top secret security clearance at the Pentagon," not one word of which was true.
skeptoid.com/episodes/4688
*** You must check out the authors site background they are a bunch of losers and they don't know the truth and you believe theirs writings, this is very sad. Frank Stranges did not have the Pentagon top clearance or never claimed he had it.
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Post by bfvernon on Sept 11, 2020 18:48:10 GMT -5
Why don’t we all agree to stop replying to Nathan? Just a full stop. Don’t reply. End of thread. Start a new thread with a different topic, or even the same topic.JUST DO NOT REPLY.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 19:34:42 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more, Barbara. He just enjoys it and all the time it is destroying TMB. We all need to join a campaign to lift the standard by posting edifying posts. You will find that because he is a "One Trick Pony" and has a limited mind, he won't join in and destroy the thread. We have to start using a bit of reverse psychology, rather than taking him on.
I put him on ignore a long time ago, makes TMB much more enjoyable.
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Post by nathan on Sept 11, 2020 19:37:24 GMT -5
Why don’t we all agree to stop replying to Nathan? Just a full stop. Don’t reply. End of thread. Start a new thread with a different topic, or even the same topic.JUST DO NOT REPLY. ** They like to stir the pot! The Admin. has asked people NOT to discuss these things on the main page but take to the Sub-boards and discuss it there. It seems some don't listen to his request so good luck! with your suggestion. If they ask and poke at it I will reply... I have asked them so MANY times to engage me in the Sub-boards but they refused to do so they like to do it on the main page. Let us see they will take these topics and the discussion to the Sub-boards.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 11, 2020 19:48:49 GMT -5
Why don’t we all agree to stop replying to Nathan? Just a full stop. Don’t reply. End of thread. Start a new thread with a different topic, or even the same topic.JUST DO NOT REPLY. ** They like to stir the pot! The Admin. has asked people NOT to discuss these things on the main page but take to the Sub-boards and discuss it there. It seems some don't listen to his request so good luck! with your suggestion. If they ask and poke at it I will reply... I have asked them so MANY times to engage me in the Sub-boards but they refused to do so they like to do it on the main page. Let us see they will take these topics and the discussion to the Sub-boards. The admin has been on a long holiday since they warned you and Wally. It is you that needs to be honest with yourself and start looking more closely at your beliefs.
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Post by Annan on Sept 11, 2020 20:02:23 GMT -5
From where did he get his doctorate? No one knows. And if he had genuine academic credentials, why did he own a diploma mill? *** I have posted his lecture in Kona Hawaii 2007 so many years on here. He told the audience of his background and which year he attended the Bible Seminary and got his doctorate degree. When I get home let me find his video lecture and posted on here again. Posting his lecture video that no one will watch, PROVES NOTHING! STRANGES IS A LIAR.
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Post by Ross.Bowden on Sept 11, 2020 20:41:46 GMT -5
** The Holy Spirit is God and Jesus called Him a "He" in John chapters 15-16. In many languages inanimate subjects are not gender neutral and are referred to as 'he' or 'she.' English speaking people are less used to this than most of the world and when reading the Bible are often misled due to this 'ignorance.' In Poland a newspaper may have the gender of male (he rather than it) and a Pole might say "I am going out to buy a newspaper and I will bring 'him' home.' On return, the person to whom the original statement was addressed might remark to the person on his/her return...'Did you get him?' (rather than it). A further reply might be 'Here he is. I will put him down on the table.' This does not make a newspaper an actual person. This is not to say that the Holy Spirit is an inanimate subject. Rather the opposite. It is a 'living' spirit and proceeds from the Father. It is the Father's spirit and the Father's spirit only. There should be no doubt about this at all, especially from a true believer as Jesus himself tells us this. Today Jesus has control of the Holy Spirit. It has replaced him on the Earth. It occupies every true believer. Many, like yourself have been confused by the gender status of the Holy Spirit. It/he is variously referred to in the English language by the gender neutral term 'it' or the gender specific term of 'he.' Standard Christadelphian and Jehovah Witness theology - but not Biblical. In the Bible, the Holy Spirit speaks, teaches, rebukes, provides comfort, makes decisions, grieves sin, changes and overrules human actions to name a few. In the Bible, the Holy Spirit has a separate name but is also called the Spirit of God, Spirit of Christ, Spirit of Jesus, and even Lord etc. - just a tad different to being assigned a gender in a non gender neutral language). It's impossible to read Scripture and not immediately conclude that the Holy Spirit is a personal being and the giver of life. Again, not a great issue for the 2x2's. While their teaching can be a bit muddled, I was in a meeting not too long ago where they sang to the Holy Spirit and asked Him to "breathe upon us, teach us, guide us, make Thy presence known, to speak to us in His gentle voice, dwell in our hearts, whisper to us, guide our hearts to Jesus, prompt us to pray etc."
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