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Post by jetmech on Aug 30, 2020 11:22:05 GMT -5
I've read in the books of Joel and John and others that GOD is a spirit.
I think the profit Isaiah even said GOD is a spirit, and both John and Paul referred to GOD being a spirit.
Then, it says in approximately 43 different places in the bible that GOD is EVERYWHERE.
It says in the Bible " ... where is the secret place where you can go and hide from me that I won't see you, saith the Lord ..." " ... I am everywhere in the heavens and everywhere on the earth ..." Saith the Lord.
Acts 7:48 says every human being is a temple of GOD and he is in every one of us.
So, how can GOD reside on Venus?
GOD is EVERYWHERE. GOD is omnipresent and omnipotent. Therefore too ... GOD does not just dwell in the bodies of the members of the 2x2 church - GOD is everywhere.
GOD is in the entire heaven and on the entire earth all at once - constantly.
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Post by chimpingtongb on Aug 30, 2020 12:32:45 GMT -5
In the heads of idiots.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 16:04:39 GMT -5
my guess is that God is on a different plane of existence so he can be anywhere and everywhere all at once...
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Post by nathan on Aug 30, 2020 16:30:39 GMT -5
I've read in the books of Joel and John and others that GOD is a spirit. I think the profit Isaiah even said GOD is a spirit, and both John and Paul referred to GOD being a spirit. Then, it says in approximately 43 different places in the bible that GOD is EVERYWHERE. It says in the Bible " ... where is the secret place where you can go and hide from me that I won't see you, saith the Lord ..." " ... I am everywhere in the heavens and everywhere on the earth ..." Saith the Lord. Acts 7:48 says every human being is a temple of GOD and he is in every one of us. So, how can GOD reside on Venus? GOD is EVERYWHERE. GOD is omnipresent and omnipotent. Therefore too ... GOD does not just dwell in the bodies of the members of the 2x2 church - GOD is everywhere. GOD is in the entire heaven and on the entire earth all at once - constantly. *** In the book of Revelation God showed John the apostle God the Father, Christ, all the Holy angels, Old and New Testament believers souls LIVE 2000 yrs ago. Christ/God revealed the place of their DWELLING PLACE is the BRIGHT and Morning Star= Interior planet of Venus Rev.22:16. God's presence fills the heaven. When Jesus was walking on the earth, he said to His followers in John 14 In My Father's House there are MANY Mansion! I go to prepare a PLACE for you, where I am the you will be with me also. God has a dwelling place/kingdom where they have as their HQ to sent forth His angels to do His wills on earth. in John chapters 13-16 Jesus said when we are born again God the Father, Christ and the Holy Spirit will come and Dwell in our hearts/minds and bodies are the temple of God.
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Post by nathan on Aug 30, 2020 16:35:54 GMT -5
** God doesn't dwell in the heads of idiots, doubting Thomas and unbelievers.
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Post by Annan on Aug 30, 2020 17:59:03 GMT -5
** God doesn't dwell in the heads of idiots, doubting Thomas and unbelievers. Guess that leaves you out.
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Post by Roselyn T on Aug 30, 2020 21:21:23 GMT -5
I've read in the books of Joel and John and others that GOD is a spirit. I think the profit Isaiah even said GOD is a spirit, and both John and Paul referred to GOD being a spirit. Then, it says in approximately 43 different places in the bible that GOD is EVERYWHERE. It says in the Bible " ... where is the secret place where you can go and hide from me that I won't see you, saith the Lord ..." " ... I am everywhere in the heavens and everywhere on the earth ..." Saith the Lord. Acts 7:48 says every human being is a temple of GOD and he is in every one of us. So, how can GOD reside on Venus? GOD is EVERYWHERE. GOD is omnipresent and omnipotent. Therefore too ... GOD does not just dwell in the bodies of the members of the 2x2 church - GOD is everywhere. GOD is in the entire heaven and on the entire earth all at once - constantly. *** In the book of Revelation God showed John the apostle God the Father, Christ, all the Holy angels, Old and New Testament believers souls LIVE 2000 yrs ago. Christ/God revealed the place of their DWELLING PLACE is the BRIGHT and Morning Star= Interior planet of Venus Rev.22:16. God's presence fills the heaven. When Jesus was walking on the earth, he said to His followers in John 14 In My Father's House there are MANY Mansion! I go to prepare a PLACE for you, where I am the you will be with me also. God has a dwelling place/kingdom where they have as their HQ to sent forth His angels to do His wills on earth. in John chapters 13-16 Jesus said when we are born again God the Father, Christ and the Holy Spirit will come and Dwell in our hearts/minds and bodies are the temple of God. Adding to the Bible again nathan ! IT DOES NOT SAY GOD DWELLS IN VENUS ! This is a classic example of how you add or twist scripture to suit YOURSELF !
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Post by nathan on Aug 31, 2020 0:04:44 GMT -5
*** In the book of Revelation God showed John the apostle God the Father, Christ, all the Holy angels, Old and New Testament believers souls LIVE 2000 yrs ago. Christ/God revealed the place of their DWELLING PLACE is the BRIGHT and Morning Star= Interior planet of Venus Rev.22:16. God's presence fills the heaven. When Jesus was walking on the earth, he said to His followers in John 14 In My Father's House there are MANY Mansion! I go to prepare a PLACE for you, where I am the you will be with me also. God has a dwelling place/kingdom where they have as their HQ to sent forth His angels to do His wills on earth. in John chapters 13-16 Jesus said when we are born again God the Father, Christ and the Holy Spirit will come and Dwell in our hearts/minds and bodies are the temple of God. Adding to the Bible again nathan ! IT DOES NOT SAY GOD DWELLS IN VENUS ! This is a classic example of how you add or twist scripture to suit YOURSELF ! What is Morning and Evening Star? Originally, the terms "morning star" and "evening star" applied only to the brightest planet of all, Venus. Far more dazzling than any of the actual stars in the sky, Venus does not appear to twinkle, but instead glows with a steady, silvery light. Rev. 22:16 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.Jesus said ‘I will give him the morning star’ (Rev. 2:28). What is the ‘morning star’?”This passage embraces one of the seven promises from Christ to those who “overcome” the trials and temptations of life and thus remain loyal to him to the end (see: Rev. 2:7, 11, 17, 26; 3:5, 12, 21).Jesus said in John 14 In my Father's House there are MANY mansion I go to prepare a PLACE for you, where I am there you will be also.From the Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 Valiant Thor Guardian angels human looking people are Venusians, they have been mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls and the in Old Testament. The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star/Venus Planet, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Genesis chapters 17,18,19. The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. "The smoke rose into the heaven and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth." "She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 2:13:15 GMT -5
I've read in the books of Joel and John and others that GOD is a spirit. I think the profit Isaiah even said GOD is a spirit, and both John and Paul referred to GOD being a spirit. Then, it says in approximately 43 different places in the bible that GOD is EVERYWHERE. It says in the Bible " ... where is the secret place where you can go and hide from me that I won't see you, saith the Lord ..." " ... I am everywhere in the heavens and everywhere on the earth ..." Saith the Lord. Acts 7:48 says every human being is a temple of GOD and he is in every one of us. So, how can GOD reside on Venus? GOD is EVERYWHERE. GOD is omnipresent and omnipotent. Therefore too ... GOD does not just dwell in the bodies of the members of the 2x2 church - GOD is everywhere. GOD is in the entire heaven and on the entire earth all at once - constantly. You ask some good questions jetmech and this is another good one. God actually resides inside the mind of the believer and is experienced by the believer through internal thoughts and feelings. The Christian God is an internal being which only the believer can experience. That’s why you can experience God and I can’t. That’s why you experience God and I don’t. When Christians say that they hear God speaking they don’t actually hear God speaking audibly. Their communication with God is solely internal. That’s why the sound of him speaking can’t be recorded on a smartphone. When Christians say they have seen God they haven’t actually see God visually. They have only see him though visions or in the form of a picture in their minds. That’s why God can’t be captured on a camera. When Christians say that that God walks with them or that they walk with God, you won’t actually see God walking with them. You will only see the person. That’s because the God with whom they are walking is within them. When Christians pray to God it’s a conversation between the person and their internal God. That’s why people can pray just as effectively silently. It is said that God knows our thoughts but the truth is that God IS our thoughts. He does not exist outside of us. I know the bible claims that God is omnipresent. But he isn’t. That’s why we can’t see him. Thats why those who look for him but don’t believe in him can’t find him. Belief in the Christian God is a product of the our upbringing and our religious conditioning. When we start believing in the Christian God he begins to reside in our minds and when we quit believing in him our internal God disappears from us, never to be seen or heard from again. The bible also claims that God is omnipotent. But he isn’t. That’s why there’s absolutely no point in a bald man praying to God for his baldness to be cured. God is neither omnipresent or omnipotent, he is merely an internal being who resides within us and will disappear like the flickering out of a candle once we quit believing in him. Looking to the bible for answers won’t provide you with truthful answers, it will only provide you with religious doctrine. It’s important to understand the difference. Do you want truthful answers to your questions or do you simply want to have your religious beliefs confirmed? Matt10
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Post by jetmech on Aug 31, 2020 9:01:31 GMT -5
Thanks Matt10
If you really believe what you've stated here, I feel sorry for you.
I'm not making fun of you. I'm not saying I dislike you; (I don't even know you).
I'm just saying I feel sorry for you, and I wonder if your view will change on your death bed ...
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Post by jetmech on Aug 31, 2020 9:03:52 GMT -5
GOD can be on Venus; but, he is also everywhere else all at the same time according to the bible.
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Post by nathan on Aug 31, 2020 10:37:40 GMT -5
GOD can be on Venus; but, he is also everywhere else all at the same time according to the bible. *** Yes, you are 100% correct according to Jesus own words also. The Godhead Spirit= God the Father, Christ and the Holy Spirit fills the Universe and the heavens. They can be any where and everywhere. However, they have a planet where they call home and headquarter for their operation. In the Old Test. Temple building is a replica or sample what is in heaven/Venus where the Godhead dwells. The Holy of Holies only the high priest entered once a year. The temple courtyard any children of Israelites can come and gather there. After Jesus paid the ransom priced God's presence opened to all believers in heaven like on earth.
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Post by nathan on Aug 31, 2020 13:01:17 GMT -5
I've read in the books of Joel and John and others that GOD is a spirit. I think the profit Isaiah even said GOD is a spirit, and both John and Paul referred to GOD being a spirit. Then, it says in approximately 43 different places in the bible that GOD is EVERYWHERE. It says in the Bible " ... where is the secret place where you can go and hide from me that I won't see you, saith the Lord ..." " ... I am everywhere in the heavens and everywhere on the earth ..." Saith the Lord. Acts 7:48 says every human being is a temple of GOD and he is in every one of us. So, how can GOD reside on Venus? GOD is EVERYWHERE. GOD is omnipresent and omnipotent. Therefore too ... GOD does not just dwell in the bodies of the members of the 2x2 church - GOD is everywhere. GOD is in the entire heaven and on the entire earth all at once - constantly. You ask some good questions jetmech and this is another good one. God actually resides inside the mind of the believer and is experienced by the believer through internal thoughts and feelings. The Christian God is an internal being which only the believer can experience. That’s why you can experience God and I can’t. That’s why you experience God and I don’t. When Christians say that they hear God speaking they don’t actually hear God speaking audibly. Their communication with God is solely internal. That’s why the sound of him speaking can’t be recorded on a smartphone. When Christians say they have seen God they haven’t actually see God visually. They have only see him though visions or in the form of a picture in their minds. That’s why God can’t be captured on a camera. When Christians say that that God walks with them or that they walk with God, you won’t actually see God walking with them. You will only see the person. That’s because the God with whom they are walking is within them. When Christians pray to God it’s a conversation between the person and their internal God. That’s why people can pray just as effectively silently. It is said that God knows our thoughts but the truth is that God IS our thoughts. He does not exist outside of us. I know the bible claims that God is omnipresent. But he isn’t. That’s why we can’t see him. Thats why those who look for him but don’t believe in him can’t find him. Belief in the Christian God is a product of the our upbringing and our religious conditioning. When we start believing in the Christian God he begins to reside in our minds and when we quit believing in him our internal God disappears from us, never to be seen or heard from again. The bible also claims that God is omnipotent. But he isn’t. That’s why there’s absolutely no point in a bald man praying to God for his baldness to be cured. God is neither omnipresent or omnipotent, he is merely an internal being who resides within us and will disappear like the flickering out of a candle once we quit believing in him. Looking to the bible for answers won’t provide you with truthful answers, it will only provide you with religious doctrine. It’s important to understand the difference. Do you want truthful answers to your questions or do you simply want to have your religious beliefs confirmed? Matt10 ** It seems you have forgotten your Bible scriptures... In the book of Genesis chapters 2 and 3 we read God appeared in human form and had fellowship, walked and talked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden before they fallen from grace. After they fell from grace we read God came down from heaven/Venus with His two of the humans looking angels from Venus. God/Christ came in form/body to visit Abraham face to face about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and Lot's family. He stayed and visited with Abraham but the two angels went to rescue Lot and his family. Christ/God appeared in the human form in Daniel time when he stood with Daniel 3 friends in the fiery furnace. 2000 yrs ago, Christ/God came down from heaven again incarnate in the person Jesus to die for our sin so the believers souls can enter heaven after death. Jesus went back to heaven/Venus after he paid the ransom priced for our sins. The Holy Spirit came down from heaven to guide Jesus apostles and followers to continue the gospel Jesus SAVES to all nations to the time of Jesus returns from Heaven/Venus. No human being has seen God the Father in any human form, they ONLY heard His voice speaking from heaven. The ONLY God the humans have seen in human form, or in the form of Angel and speaking to the humans is Christ/God the Son. The Holy Spirit we don't know too much information about Him. We know the Spirit of God moved/alive on the earth in Genesis chapter 1. King David speaking of Him dwelling in him. After king David committed murder and adultery he asked God NOT to take the Holy Spirit from him King David knew the existence of God the Father and Christ/God His redeemed and Savior of his souls and all of humanity. psalms 110:1-2. How can you say God doesn't talk to people or people can't see God? Or God doesn't exist then why Jesus says he is coming back to earth and set up His eternal kingdom on earth for 1000 yrs with the believers.
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Post by chimpingtongb on Aug 31, 2020 13:05:03 GMT -5
GOD can be on Venus; but, he is also everywhere else all at the same time according to the bible. *** Yes, you are 100% correct according to Jesus own words also. The Godhead Spirit= God the Father, Christ and the Holy Spirit fills the Universe and the heavens. They can be any where and everywhere. However, they have a planet where they call home and headquarter for their operation. In the Old Test. Temple building is a replica or sample what is in heaven/Venus where the Godhead dwells. The Holy of Holies only the high priest entered once a year. The temple courtyard any children of Israelites can come and gather there. After Jesus paid the ransom priced God's presence opened to all believers in heaven like on earth. And how do you account for the other 100000000000000x10 to the power of 14 planets? Do they each have their own "God,"? What about confirmed explanation?
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Post by jetmech on Aug 31, 2020 14:10:30 GMT -5
*** Yes, you are 100% correct according to Jesus own words also. The Godhead Spirit= God the Father, Christ and the Holy Spirit fills the Universe and the heavens. They can be any where and everywhere. However, they have a planet where they call home and headquarter for their operation. In the Old Test. Temple building is a replica or sample what is in heaven/Venus where the Godhead dwells. The Holy of Holies only the high priest entered once a year. The temple courtyard any children of Israelites can come and gather there. After Jesus paid the ransom priced God's presence opened to all believers in heaven like on earth. And how do you account for the other 100000000000000x10 to the power of 14 planets? Do they each have their own "God,"? What about confirmed explanation? That would be a question to ask GOD; but, an awesome GOD who created the Universe, all the stars, the earth, the moon, all forms of human, animal, insect, plant, and microorganism forms of life surely is incomprehensively awesome and would tend to hold a mystery or two.
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Post by nathan on Aug 31, 2020 14:51:34 GMT -5
*** Yes, you are 100% correct according to Jesus own words also. The Godhead Spirit= God the Father, Christ and the Holy Spirit fills the Universe and the heavens. They can be any where and everywhere. However, they have a planet where they call home and headquarter for their operation. In the Old Test. Temple building is a replica or sample what is in heaven/Venus where the Godhead dwells. The Holy of Holies only the high priest entered once a year. The temple courtyard any children of Israelites can come and gather there. After Jesus paid the ransom priced God's presence opened to all believers in heaven like on earth. And how do you account for the other 100000000000000x10 to the power of 14 planets? Do they each have their own "God,"? What about confirmed explanation? God created billions intelligence races/species that live many millions planets in each galaxy and there are 3 trillions or more galaxies in the Universe. These beings are gods to us mortals humans beings. Adam and Eve were gods, they were created in the Godhead image and in their likeness immortals beings but they fell from grace and became MORTAL beings because of sins when they disobey God NOT to eat the forbidden fruit or to take the Serpent/Side side instead Christ side the tree of eternal life. Godhead created Adam, Eve and their immortal children to Rule the Universe but they failed and became MORTAL beings so, we can't rule with Christ. Jesus came down from heaven to RESTORE our IMMORTALITY through His death on Calvary to pay for our sins that was why Jesus said YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN! To enter the kingdom of God/heaven= Venus. Our present sinners state can't get us in heaven after death we must be born again to receive Christ Spirit, God the Father Spirit and the Holy Spirit= Godhead in us so we can live in heaven. God wants us immortals humans to help Him bringing billions intelligences races/beings into His kingdom, when Jesus establishes His eternal kingdom or Family in heaven made up of millions types of beings which the Godhead had created many billions years ago.
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Post by chimpingtongb on Aug 31, 2020 15:18:35 GMT -5
You sir, are delusional.
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Post by nathan on Aug 31, 2020 15:24:32 GMT -5
** You asked the question and I replied it. You are free to reject or believe it, the choice is up to you.
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Post by Annan on Aug 31, 2020 18:36:28 GMT -5
** You asked the question and I replied it. You are free to reject or believe it, the choice is up to you. *** It would be nice if we were free from you posting aud nauseam and cramming your crap down our throats.
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Post by nathan on Aug 31, 2020 19:11:22 GMT -5
** You asked the question and I replied it. You are free to reject or believe it, the choice is up to you. *** It would be nice if we were free from you posting aud nauseam and cramming your crap down our throats. They asked me the questions and I answered, If you don't my posts just scrolls down or skip reading.. That way I don't crammed down your throat. Easy solution, ignore me and I ignore you.
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 31, 2020 19:32:55 GMT -5
You ask some good questions jetmech and this is another good one. God actually resides inside the mind of the believer and is experienced by the believer through internal thoughts and feelings. The Christian God is an internal being which only the believer can experience. That’s why you can experience God and I can’t. That’s why you experience God and I don’t. When Christians say that they hear God speaking they don’t actually hear God speaking audibly. Their communication with God is solely internal. That’s why the sound of him speaking can’t be recorded on a smartphone. When Christians say they have seen God they haven’t actually see God visually. They have only see him though visions or in the form of a picture in their minds. That’s why God can’t be captured on a camera. When Christians say that that God walks with them or that they walk with God, you won’t actually see God walking with them. You will only see the person. That’s because the God with whom they are walking is within them. When Christians pray to God it’s a conversation between the person and their internal God. That’s why people can pray just as effectively silently. It is said that God knows our thoughts but the truth is that God IS our thoughts. He does not exist outside of us. I know the bible claims that God is omnipresent. But he isn’t. That’s why we can’t see him. Thats why those who look for him but don’t believe in him can’t find him. Belief in the Christian God is a product of the our upbringing and our religious conditioning. When we start believing in the Christian God he begins to reside in our minds and when we quit believing in him our internal God disappears from us, never to be seen or heard from again. The bible also claims that God is omnipotent. But he isn’t. That’s why there’s absolutely no point in a bald man praying to God for his baldness to be cured. God is neither omnipresent or omnipotent, he is merely an internal being who resides within us and will disappear like the flickering out of a candle once we quit believing in him. Looking to the bible for answers won’t provide you with truthful answers, it will only provide you with religious doctrine. It’s important to understand the difference. Do you want truthful answers to your questions or do you simply want to have your religious beliefs confirmed? Matt10 ** It seems you have forgotten your Bible scriptures... In the book of Genesis chapters 2 and 3 we read God appeared in human form and had fellowship, walked and talked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden before they fallen from grace. After they fell from grace we read God came down from heaven/Venus with His two of the humans looking angels from Venus. God/Christ came in form/body to visit Abraham face to face about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and Lot's family. He stayed and visited with Abraham but the two angels went to rescue Lot and his family. Christ/God appeared in the human form in Daniel time when he stood with Daniel 3 friends in the fiery furnace. 2000 yrs ago, Christ/God came down from heaven again incarnate in the person Jesus to die for our sin so the believers souls can enter heaven after death. Jesus went back to heaven/Venus after he paid the ransom priced for our sins. The Holy Spirit came down from heaven to guide Jesus apostles and followers to continue the gospel Jesus SAVES to all nations to the time of Jesus returns from Heaven/Venus. No human being has seen God the Father in any human form, they ONLY heard His voice speaking from heaven. The ONLY God the humans have seen in human form, or in the form of Angel and speaking to the humans is Christ/God the Son. The Holy Spirit we don't know too much information about Him. We know the Spirit of God moved/alive on the earth in Genesis chapter 1. King David speaking of Him dwelling in him. After king David committed murder and adultery he asked God NOT to take the Holy Spirit from him King David knew the existence of God the Father and Christ/God His redeemed and Savior of his souls and all of humanity. psalms 110:1-2. How can you say God doesn't talk to people or people can't see God? Or God doesn't exist then why Jesus says he is coming back to earth and set up His eternal kingdom on earth for 1000 yrs with the believers. Nathan, -let's talk about those "bible scriptures!"
What you seem to have forgotten is where those "scriptures" came from.
They came from MEN!
So where did god "exist" for them?
God existed inside their minds, -the minds of the men who wrote those "scriptures."
So all that you have said doesn't mean anything other than that a idea of a "god" resided inside the minds of those who wrote them.
Just the same as the idea of "god" who existed in the minds of the people who wrote ALL of the many other ancient scripts (scriptures) of a "god" in all the other cultures of the world.
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 31, 2020 19:38:51 GMT -5
** You asked the question and I replied it. You are free to reject or believe it, the choice is up to you. Ah, but your answer, Nathan WAS delusional because YOU have interpreted the bible as to how it suits yourself and even added to it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 20:14:13 GMT -5
my guess is that God is on a different plane of existence so he can be anywhere and everywhere all at once... That sounds a bit like the behaviour of electrons. Maybe elections are God. The behaviour of elections could be what makes an object either an organism living, or inert without life. Steve Hawking did say that Scientists will discover the energy that gives an object life.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 21:37:58 GMT -5
Thanks Matt10 If you really believe what you've stated here, I feel sorry for you. I'm not making fun of you. I'm not saying I dislike you; (I don't even know you). I'm just saying I feel sorry for you, and I wonder if your view will change on your death bed ... You’re always the one asking questions. I’m always the one providing answers. I guess anyone who is truly seeking answers will know which of us they can rely on. You tell people what your beliefs are. I tell people what the truth is. There really is no need to feel sorry for me. As regards my death bed I won’t be changing my views. For me to start believing in the Christian God I would first have to create him in my head. And why would I do that on my deathbed? The Christian God can’t save your soul or cure the ailment from which you are suffering or bring you back to life after you’ve departed. All the Christian God can offer the dying is false hope. I’d rather have no hope than false hope. I’d rather have no God than a completely hopeless one. Whether it’s curing cancer, curing covid19, repairing your damaged heart or growing you a new liver or kidney the Christian God can do none of those no matter how sincerely you pray to him. The Christian God can’t regrow your missing leg or missing foot or even your missing little toe should you be unfortunate enough to lose it to gangrene. Not even if you ask in the name of Jesus. What use is a God like that on your deathbed? Matt10
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 22:17:34 GMT -5
Bit hard to find out where God resides because there are so many Gods. How many gods has man created? Gods and Goddesses,there are over 2,500 of them listed, although there are even thousands more not listed.
Matt10 has already posted that they are a figment of Human imagination. So my advice would be "Be at peace with God, whatever YOU conceive God to be".
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Post by joanna on Sept 1, 2020 0:04:57 GMT -5
@matt10. This thread prompted thinking about what constitutes a genuine question. "Not all questions are genuine. Genuine questions come from curiosity and compassion – a desire for us to learn while temporarily suspending judgment rather than proving to others we are right, and they are wrong.
When we question genuinely, we make it as easy as possible for people to express how they see things differently, including how we could be contributing to a problem.
Unfortunately, many people think they are demonstrating genuine questions and curiosity, but instead they use questions to show others what they think themselves.". ReferenceIt is over 30 years ago when I realised that god was inside my head and that was why I was not hearing any external voice or other sensory input. Though it is many years since I left that house, I can clearly remember the room I was in when experiencing this realisation. De-indoctrinating oneself from an all-encompassing faith belief is a complex process. But I think that moment properly set the process in motion. It is about being honest with ourselves. We can continue to pretend the voices we hear are from some supernatural, non-existent entity. Or we can face up to the fact that those voices are just echoes of our minds. Echoes that are regurgitating the words we have heard from preachers or priests etc and the biblical teachings we were taught to revere and believe in without question. Genuine questioning and an ability & or willingness to accept the answers, even if the answers result in upheaval and are life-changing, is simply being true to ourselves. Pretending that a god exists despite the total lack of evidence, and believing that the content of an ancient book is true means we continue to live a lie.
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Post by jetmech on Sept 3, 2020 4:58:30 GMT -5
my guess is that God is on a different plane of existence so he can be anywhere and everywhere all at once... A different dimension?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 6:54:45 GMT -5
my guess is that God is on a different plane of existence so he can be anywhere and everywhere all at once... A different dimension? yes....
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