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Post by mountain on Sept 7, 2020 17:43:26 GMT -5
From the brief descriptions given above, the Delphs are the closest, and in fact on what is stated above, they are bang on. *** They are off the track! Jesus said to the unbelieving Jews " Before Abraham was born I exist the I AM that I AM Yahweh God." Jesus and Christ/God are ETERNAL GOD the Son.This is what John recorded Jesus as having really said. John 8: 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Many scholars state that what Jesus said was ' Before Abraham was, I am he to be!' Abraham rejoiced to see the day of Jesus (in the future). Jesus was very much in the mind and plan of God before Abraham was born. Jesus pre-existed all things (in the mind and plan of God) even before God created the world. He was a pre-ordained future event which was revealed to Abraham which brought him much joy. I appreciate the Apostle John may have lacked the wisdom and sound judgement of Nathan but that's the way things go. Perhaps John believed things contrary to what he wrote about but didn't realise it yet? By the way Jesus never said that he actually pre-existed Abraham!
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Post by Dan on Sept 7, 2020 19:19:58 GMT -5
Why do you think the Catholic Church felt the need to add fake words [in red below] to the bible? For there are three that bear record [in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth], the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. These extra words are generally absent from the Greek manuscripts. In fact, they only appear in the text of four late medieval manuscripts.
I believe the verse is legitimate, mainly because its supported by many other verses;
"The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe." (John 1:7)
"To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth" (John 18:37)
"The Father that sent me beareth witness of me" (John 8:18)
"God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will.” (Hebrews 2:4).
"The Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me" (John 5:37).
"And we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit" (Acts 5:22)
“But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me" (John 15:26)
So even without the verse (1 John 5:7), its evident that Jesus came to bear witness of his Father, the Father bore witness of the Son, and the Holy Spirit bears witness of both the Father & Son. Jesus being the manifestation of the Word (God) on earth, obviously bore witness of Him, and the miracles were not only a witness of who he was, but living evidence. Not only that, but the verses preceding and following 1 John 5:7-8 set-up and explain the portion you claim should be omitted, so it rings nonsensical when those specific words are excluded.
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Post by nathan on Sept 7, 2020 19:33:48 GMT -5
*** They are off the track! Jesus said to the unbelieving Jews " Before Abraham was born I exist the I AM that I AM Yahweh God." Jesus and Christ/God are ETERNAL GOD the Son.This is what John recorded Jesus as having really said. John 8: 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Many scholars state that what Jesus said was ' Before Abraham was, I am he to be!' Abraham rejoiced to see the day of Jesus (in the future). Jesus was very much in the mind and plan of God before Abraham was born. Jesus pre-existed all things (in the mind and plan of God) even before God created the world. He was a pre-ordained future event which was revealed to Abraham which brought him much joy. I appreciate the Apostle John may have lacked the wisdom and sound judgement of Nathan but that's the way things go. Perhaps John believed things contrary to what he wrote about but didn't realise it yet? By the way Jesus never said that he actually pre-existed Abraham! Yes, Jesus was Pre-existed Abraham he said to the apostles in John 17:1-5
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
The unbelieving Jews KNEW exactly what Jesus was saying he is God/Yahweh... they said we stone thee for thou art a man claim to be God! That is blasphemy. Jesus was telling them the TRUTH but their minds could NOT believe it. God the Son/Christ came in human form Jesus standing before them!
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Post by mountain on Sept 8, 2020 3:57:57 GMT -5
This is what John recorded Jesus as having really said. John 8: 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Many scholars state that what Jesus said was ' Before Abraham was, I am he to be!' Abraham rejoiced to see the day of Jesus (in the future). Jesus was very much in the mind and plan of God before Abraham was born. Jesus pre-existed all things (in the mind and plan of God) even before God created the world. He was a pre-ordained future event which was revealed to Abraham which brought him much joy. I appreciate the Apostle John may have lacked the wisdom and sound judgement of Nathan but that's the way things go. Perhaps John believed things contrary to what he wrote about but didn't realise it yet? By the way Jesus never said that he actually pre-existed Abraham! Yes, Jesus was Pre-existed Abraham he said to the apostles in John 17:1-5
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
The unbelieving Jews KNEW exactly what Jesus was saying he is God/Yahweh... they said we stone thee for thou art a man claim to be God! That is blasphemy. Jesus was telling them the TRUTH but their minds could NOT believe it. God the Son/Christ came in human form Jesus standing before them!
Hi Nathan, I know that you are considered a high authority on these matters but Sir Anthony Buzzard is surely a close second and worth considering?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=agJYbseSdQA
By the way Jesus NEVER EVER claimed to be God. He claimed to be the Son of God (a human being entity). The Pharisees misunderstood Jesus and he corrected them. How often were the Pharisees right in dealing with Jesus and how often were they wrong (Nicodemus apart). Do you listen to the Pharisees or do you listen to the words of Jesus. The Pharisees tell you what you want to hear!
Here's another good interpretation.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd_31v1DjCQ
(Virgs)
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Post by nathan on Sept 8, 2020 8:54:07 GMT -5
Yes, Jesus was Pre-existed Abraham he said to the apostles in John 17:1-5
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
The unbelieving Jews KNEW exactly what Jesus was saying he is God/Yahweh... they said we stone thee for thou art a man claim to be God! That is blasphemy. Jesus was telling them the TRUTH but their minds could NOT believe it. God the Son/Christ came in human form Jesus standing before them!
Hi Nathan, I know that you are considered a high authority on these matters but Sir Anthony Buzzard is surely a close second and worth considering?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=agJYbseSdQA
By the way Jesus NEVER EVER claimed to be God. He claimed to be the Son of God (a human being entity). The Pharisees misunderstood Jesus and he corrected them. How often were the Pharisees right in dealing with Jesus and how often were they wrong (Nicodemus apart). Do you listen to the Pharisees or do you listen to the words of Jesus. The Pharisees tell you what you want to hear!
Here's another good interpretation.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd_31v1DjCQ
(Virgs)
I showed you folks who are anti-Jesus is NOT God verses in the Bible where Jesus, and his apostles claimed He is God/not the Father but the Son. You can't ignore many of these verses in the Bible.
1) Jesus said in 95 A.D. Revelation 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” Rev. 11:16-17 And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and Worshiped God, saying: “We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty,
the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. Rev. 21:6,7 He/Christ that sat on the throne said unto me, "It is done, I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end." I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be MY Son."
2) John the apostle wrote in the gospel of John 5:17-18 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
John 10:25-33 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
3) Paul wrote in I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the Flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, PREACHED to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up in glory.
4) The apostle Thomas said to Jesus after the resurrection, "My Lord and My God" in John 20:24-29. Jesus did NOT say don't call me Lord and God but accepted the title which Thomas called Him. 5) Mary the mother of Jesus said about the unborn Son in Luke 1:46-47 “My soul magnifies the Lord, And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior."
ALL of the Angels in heaven, millions Saved people, Worship/Singing praises of the Lord God Almighty Jesus, the Lamb of God.... Revelation chapter 4:8-11 “Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty,who was, and is, and is to come.” Revelation chapter 5:9-13 And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and has Redeemed us to God by thy BLOOD, out of every tribe and language and people and nation. You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.” Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. In a loud voice they were saying: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!” Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying: “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb, be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!”
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Post by nathan on Sept 8, 2020 8:58:29 GMT -5
Yes, Jesus was Pre-existed Abraham he said to the apostles in John 17:1-5
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
The unbelieving Jews KNEW exactly what Jesus was saying he is God/Yahweh... they said we stone thee for thou art a man claim to be God! That is blasphemy. Jesus was telling them the TRUTH but their minds could NOT believe it. God the Son/Christ came in human form Jesus standing before them!
Hi Nathan, I know that you are considered a high authority on these matters but Sir Anthony Buzzard is surely a close second and worth considering?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=agJYbseSdQA
By the way Jesus NEVER EVER claimed to be God. He claimed to be the Son of God (a human being entity). The Pharisees misunderstood Jesus and he corrected them. How often were the Pharisees right in dealing with Jesus and how often were they wrong (Nicodemus apart). Do you listen to the Pharisees or do you listen to the words of Jesus. The Pharisees tell you what you want to hear!
Here's another good interpretation.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd_31v1DjCQ
(Virgs)
Someone wrote: John 8:58 Is Jesus claiming to be eternal or just pre-existent?
Jesus said to the Jews, "I will tell you the truth.... Before Abraham was born, I am!" some misunderstanding this verse to mean that Jesus was just claiming preexistence before Abraham. The context, however, shows that Jesus was pointing not only to his preexistence before Abraham but also to His Eternally! After all, the term I am! points back to God's name in Exodus 3:14 a name that conveys the idea of Eternal self-existence. Yahweh (the I AM that I AM) never came into being at a point in time, for He has always existed. To know Yahweh is to know the Eternal one. In other words, Abraham's existence was created and finite, beginning at a point in time, but Christ's existence NEVER began, is uncreated and infinite, and is therefore ETERNAL. God the Father, Christ/the Son are distinct Persons within the unity of the ONE God. (John 3:16,17; 7:29; 8:55; 10:15;11:41,42) God is a spirit (John 4:24), and a spirit does not have flesh and bones. (Luke 24:39). John's Gospel makes it clear that Jesus' mission was to reveal the Father to mankind: "No man has ever seen God (the Father) but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known." (John 1:18)/ That's why Jesus could say that when a man looks at Jesus, "he sees the one (the Father) who sent me" (John 12:45). And that's why Jesus could affirm, "Whosoever accepts me accepts Him (the Father) who sent me" (John 13:20). To make the point again in his conversation, “Before Abraham was “I Am” (Jn. 8:58). He is saying “Yahweh is my name.” He is not saying that he existed from or before Abrahams time. Jesus has made a definitive statement that before Abraham came into existence or was born He (Jesus) was there I have existed before all ages, before anything was created. It speaks of an eternal existence without respect to time of which only God can exist. Psalm 90:2: "From everlasting to everlasting thou art God." We can only come to the conclusion that the “I AM” statements of Jesus were intentional, communicating what they were familiar with from Old Testament teachings and practices to prove the deity of Jesus the Christ to those who could hear his spiritual speech. I AM is his name forever (Heb. Hayah ashur hayah, Gr. ego eimei; Exod. 3:14-15 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." 'The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.”
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Post by bfvernon on Sept 13, 2020 17:48:47 GMT -5
Nathan, the above post is theologically correct. However, it’s not your writing, so where did it come from? Please give us the source. Also, since it’s theologically sound, I suggest that you spend more time reading from that place. Please let us know if there are any mentions there about Jesus being on Venus ........
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Post by Annan on Sept 13, 2020 18:14:38 GMT -5
Nathan, the above post is theologically correct. However, it’s not your writing, so where did it come from? Please give us the source. Also, since it’s theologically sound, I suggest that you spend more time reading from that place. Please let us know if there are any mentions there about Jesus being on Venus ........ Nathan is the king of plagiarism.
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Post by nathan on Sept 13, 2020 20:07:18 GMT -5
Nathan, the above post is theologically correct. However, it’s not your writing, so where did it come from? Please give us the source. Also, since it’s theologically sound, I suggest that you spend more time reading from that place. Please let us know if there are any mentions there about Jesus being on Venus. It's mention in the book of Revelation that Jesus from INSIDE Venus.... is a special revelation of Christ to the world... Like I said Christ revealed where He is from... Rev. 22:16. The Bright and Morning Star. Revelation 2:28 I will also give that one the morning star.The BRIGHT and MORNING Star is= the Planet Venus.Why does the Bible use 'morning star' to refer to both Jesus and Satan? In Isaiah 14:12 we read, "How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn!" The King James and New King James Versions use "Lucifer, son of the morning" in place of "Day Star, son of Dawn." The larger context of this passage is traditionally interpreted as referring to Satan and his fall from heaven. In Revelation 22:16, we read, "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star." Why are both Jesus and Satan called the morning star? In ancient times the idea of a morning star was one of a bright star that outshines others. In Isaiah, the poetic structure of chapter 14 uses the phrase to describe the greatness of Satan prior to his fall in contrast with his evil in rebelling against the Lord. With Jesus, the concept of the morning star is used to also note His greatness. This is clear from the other title used of Him in the same verse, "the root and descendant of David." Of great importance is the fact that Jesus is noted as the bright morning star. His greatness is far above all others. Satan could not cause Jesus to sin (Matthew 4:1-11), could not stop His plans, nor defeat Him through death. Satan will ultimately be defeated by Jesus and cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:7-10). www.compellingtruth.org/morning-star.htmlJesus Christ and Satan came from the BRIGHT and Morning Star= Interior planet of Venus. Christ is the Creator all angels of God in heaven/Venus. Heb. 1:6; Christ created Lucifer but he turned himself into an EVIL angel because of pride and want people and beings to worship him as God.Rev. 12: 7-8 And there was war in heaven/Venus: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. After Satan and 1/3 of the fallen angel was defeat in heaven/Venus, God and Christ cast them out of heaven to earth is his prison and kingdom until Jesus returns to chain him in the Abyss for 1000 years, while Christ RULES and REIGN the Universe with His chosen believers.
Rev. 19:6-16 6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
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Post by fixit on Sept 13, 2020 21:59:39 GMT -5
Nathan, the above post is theologically correct. However, it’s not your writing, so where did it come from? Please give us the source. Also, since it’s theologically sound, I suggest that you spend more time reading from that place. Please let us know if there are any mentions there about Jesus being on Venus ........ The term "theologically correct" makes about as much sense on TMB as "gender correct" would make on a Gender and Sexuality Awareness forum.
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Post by speak on Sept 13, 2020 22:51:47 GMT -5
Yes, Jesus was Pre-existed Abraham he said to the apostles in John 17:1-5
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
The unbelieving Jews KNEW exactly what Jesus was saying he is God/Yahweh... they said we stone thee for thou art a man claim to be God! That is blasphemy. Jesus was telling them the TRUTH but their minds could NOT believe it. God the Son/Christ came in human form Jesus standing before them!
Hi Nathan, I know that you are considered a high authority on these matters but Sir Anthony Buzzard is surely a close second and worth considering?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=agJYbseSdQA
By the way Jesus NEVER EVER claimed to be God. He claimed to be the Son of God (a human being entity). The Pharisees misunderstood Jesus and he corrected them. How often were the Pharisees right in dealing with Jesus and how often were they wrong (Nicodemus apart). Do you listen to the Pharisees or do you listen to the words of Jesus. The Pharisees tell you what you want to hear!
Here's another good interpretation.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd_31v1DjCQ
(Virgs)
Sorry bud but I am off many of those subjects now, can't see the point of argument.
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Post by Pragmatic on Sept 13, 2020 23:22:46 GMT -5
Sorry bud but I am off many of those subjects now, can't see the point of argument. Yup, same Speak.
I had a chat a few years ago with AR about it, and was totally happy with his response.
I also can't see the point in arguing about what can or cannot be proven.
No one in the Bible was asked to explain the concept of the Godhead before being accepted.
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Post by nathan on Sept 13, 2020 23:59:50 GMT -5
Sorry bud but I am off many of those subjects now, can't see the point of argument. Yup, same Speak.
I had a chat a few years ago with AR about it, and was totally happy with his response.
I also can't see the point in arguing about what can or cannot be proven.
No one in the Bible was asked to explain the concept of the Godhead before being accepted.
KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING the Godhead= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit comes AFTER you have accepted Jesus Christ as your God Savior and Redeemer. Knowing and Believing Jesus Christ as your Savior is the first step in coming to the Father. Christ Jesus/God is the Mediator between God the Father and humans sinners.
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Post by Pragmatic on Sept 14, 2020 0:02:14 GMT -5
Yup, same Speak.
I had a chat a few years ago with AR about it, and was totally happy with his response.
I also can't see the point in arguing about what can or cannot be proven.
No one in the Bible was asked to explain the concept of the Godhead before being accepted.
KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING the Godhead= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit comes AFTER you have accepted Jesus Christ as your God Savior and Redeemer. Knowing and Believing Jesus Christ as your Savior is the first step in coming to the Father.I agree to an extent, in that if one is to worship, then knowing what and who is relevant.
But Biblically speaking, it is about who is known, not what they know.
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Post by nathan on Sept 14, 2020 0:06:13 GMT -5
KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING the Godhead= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit comes AFTER you have accepted Jesus Christ as your God Savior and Redeemer. Knowing and Believing Jesus Christ as your Savior is the first step in coming to the Father. I agree to an extent, in that if one is to worship, then knowing what and who is relevant.
But Biblically speaking, it is about who is known, not what they know.
Nobody can come or worship God the Father without believing and accepting Jesus Christ/God as your Savior first! Jesus Christ/God is the ONLY bridge to God the Father. Jesus said, "I am the WAY, the TRUTH and Life/eternal life, no man comes to God the Father but through me."
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Post by Pragmatic on Sept 14, 2020 0:08:55 GMT -5
I agree to an extent, in that if one is to worship, then knowing what and who is relevant.
But Biblically speaking, it is about who is known, not what they know.
Nobody can't come or worship God the Father without believing and accepting Jesus Christ/God as your Savior first! Jesus Christ/God is the ONLY bridge to God the Father. Jesus said, "I am the WAY, the TRUTH and Life/eternal life, no man comes to God the Father but through me."You missed the point.....Jesus will either say "I never knew you" or he won't.
I'm out of this thread now
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Post by nathan on Sept 14, 2020 0:11:55 GMT -5
Nobody can't come or worship God the Father without believing and accepting Jesus Christ/God as your Savior first! Jesus Christ/God is the ONLY bridge to God the Father. Jesus said, "I am the WAY, the TRUTH and Life/eternal life, no man comes to God the Father but through me." You missed the point.....Jesus will either say "I never knew you" or he won't.
I'm out of this thread now
If Jesus say "I never KNEW you" then that so and so person can't enter heaven. Jesus is the DOOR to enter heaven and to be with God the Father.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 0:42:33 GMT -5
Nobody can't come or worship God the Father without believing and accepting Jesus Christ/God as your Savior first! Jesus Christ/God is the ONLY bridge to God the Father. Jesus said, "I am the WAY, the TRUTH and Life/eternal life, no man comes to God the Father but through me." You missed the point.....Jesus will either say "I never knew you" or he won't.
I'm out of this thread now
Wise man lol
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Post by fixit on Sept 14, 2020 1:10:18 GMT -5
Nobody can't come or worship God the Father without believing and accepting Jesus Christ/God as your Savior first! Jesus Christ/God is the ONLY bridge to God the Father. Jesus said, "I am the WAY, the TRUTH and Life/eternal life, no man comes to God the Father but through me." You missed the point.....Jesus will either say "I never knew you" or he won't. Well said. A lot of people have a lot to say about who qualifies to be "known" by Jesus. As if Jesus will have to get permission from the theologians before he's allowed to "know" anyone. Let's stop putting up barriers like the religious bigots Jesus dealt with in his day.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 14, 2020 6:59:01 GMT -5
Is there any way one can do the same to the godhead as I did with my last blackhead?
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Post by nathan on Sept 14, 2020 12:29:15 GMT -5
Nathan, the above post is theologically correct. However, it’s not your writing, so where did it come from? Please give us the source. Also, since it’s theologically sound, I suggest that you spend more time reading from that place. Please let us know if there are any mentions there about Jesus being on Venus ........Life on Venus? Astronomers See Phosphine Signal in Its Clouds Shannon Stirone, Kenneth Chang and Dennis Overbye 9/14/2020 High in the toxic atmosphere of the planet Venus, astronomers on Earth have discovered signs of what might be life. If the discovery is confirmed by additional telescope observations and future space missions, it could turn the gaze of scientists toward one of the brightest objects in the night sky. Venus, named after the Roman goddess of beauty, roasts at temperatures of hundreds of degrees and is cloaked by clouds that contain droplets of corrosive sulfuric acid. Few have focused on the rocky planet as a habitat for something living. The astronomers, who reported the finding on Monday in a pair of papers, have not collected specimens of Venusian microbes, nor have they snapped any pictures of them. But with powerful telescopes, they have detected a chemical — phosphine — in the thick Venus atmosphere. After much analysis, the scientists assert that something now alive is the only explanation for the chemical’s source. “This is an astonishing and ‘out of the blue’ finding,” said Sara Seager, a planetary scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and an author of the papers (one published in Nature Astronomy and another submitted to the journal Astrobiology). “It will definitely fuel more research into the possibilities for life in Venus’s atmosphere.” www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/life-on-venus-astronomers-see-phosphine-signal-in-its-clouds/ar-BB191iwE?ocid=msedgntp
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 14, 2020 15:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by jetmech on Sept 14, 2020 15:21:26 GMT -5
I read that. Dayuuum don't give her a gun!!! HOLY COW!!! lol However, Look, play nice. Nathan does not deserve this. How many of us have asked him questions knowing he is an exworker? Why do so many of you continue to read his posts if you think he's so bad? That's what the scroll button or block button is for!!! Why belittle another human being continually? It's like a BULL continually trying to ram it's horns through a gate! Scroll man ... scroll on past it all!
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 14, 2020 16:47:09 GMT -5
I read that. Dayuuum don't give her a gun!!! HOLY COW!!! lol However, Look, play nice. Nathan does not deserve this. How many of us have asked him questions knowing he is an exworker? Why do so many of you continue to read his posts if you think he's so bad? That's what the scroll button or block button is for!!! Why belittle another human being continually? It's like a BULL continually trying to ram it's horns through a gate! Scroll man ... scroll on past it all! I have scrolled over Nathan's posts for a long time. He's delusional and nasty -- and responsible for the nasty part. And ex-worker means nothing to me -- I know one who was on the most wanted list because he escaped from jail.
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Post by jetmech on Sept 14, 2020 18:16:25 GMT -5
FROM THE GODDARD SPACE CENTER
Astronomers found a gas in Venus' clouds that could signal alien life
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 18:21:41 GMT -5
talk about being nasty....
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Post by nathan on Sept 14, 2020 19:21:03 GMT -5
talk about being nasty.... I KNOW BobW. was NOT nasty, mean spirit when he was professing as a 2x2. It seems another spirit has taken over his mind.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 14, 2020 21:57:20 GMT -5
talk about being nasty.... I'm looking for one for you too.
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