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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 16:21:43 GMT -5
*** The movie the day of the earth stood still in 1951 based on TRUE event of Valiant Thor mission to earth in 1940s of his brother Donn Thor. Long before they met Frank Stranges in 1959 in the Pentagon. The Pentagon and the Navy secret department had known and worked with both Thor's brothers since 1940 or earlier. It wasn't a BIG surprised to certain Navy secret project section had worked with them during WWII. The Venusians human looking angels are no strangers to the Naval Above top secret section department. So you completely ignored the part about Stranges credentials. ** Nope, I believe they are false. I heard on the lecture on Kona, Hi in 2007 and other places given by Dr. of Divinity/Pastor Frank. He had been working as a private investgator and a law enforcement. He went to a Bible seminary and was ordained as a church pastor when he met Valiant Thor face to face in the Pentagon 1959.
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Post by Bigbiddy on Jul 5, 2020 16:22:04 GMT -5
If you guys stop baiting him perhaps (and only perhaps) Nathan may stop writing his absolute rubbish.
Ignore him.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 5, 2020 16:33:20 GMT -5
*** The movie the day of the earth stood still in 1951 based on TRUE event of Valiant Thor mission to earth in 1940s of his brother Donn Thor. Long before they met Frank Stranges in 1959 in the Pentagon. The Pentagon and the Navy secret department had known and worked with both Thor's brothers since 1940 or earlier. It wasn't a BIG surprised to certain Navy secret project section had worked with them during WWII. The Venusians human looking angels are no strangers to the Naval Above top secret section department. So you completely ignored the part about Stranges credentials. Never let the facts get in the way of a lie.
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 16:33:40 GMT -5
If you guys stop baiting him perhaps (and only perhaps) Nathan may stop writing his absolute rubbish. Ignore him. ** Come on, they want to prove to others that I am a bit case and I don't KNOW what IAM talking about. They have been trying to trip me up for 20 years.
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Post by Annan on Jul 5, 2020 16:36:38 GMT -5
If you guys stop baiting him perhaps (and only perhaps) Nathan may stop writing his absolute rubbish. Ignore him. ** Come on, they want to prove to others that I am a bit case and I don't KNOW what IAM talking about. They have been trying for 20 years. We've convinced everyone but you.
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Post by Annan on Jul 5, 2020 16:37:17 GMT -5
If you guys stop baiting him perhaps (and only perhaps) Nathan may stop writing his absolute rubbish. Ignore him. This place would be boring without him.
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 16:43:43 GMT -5
** Come on, they want to prove to others that I am a bit case and I don't KNOW what IAM talking about. They have been trying for 20 years. We've convinced everyone but you. **** I have 5 believers believe that Jesus lives inside of Venus planet according to Curly's poll... That is NOT bad the numbers are growing, it begins to make makes sense to some, eh... Keep on sharing I guess and one day it will prove that I am correct.
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 16:55:11 GMT -5
If you guys stop baiting him perhaps (and only perhaps) Nathan may stop writing his absolute rubbish. Ignore him. This place would be boring without him. ** Yes, I have notice This place is pretty much dead around here for sure.
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Post by Grant on Jul 5, 2020 17:42:18 GMT -5
Valiant Thor: Your Friendly Pentagon Alien skeptoid.com/episodes/4675Val and his companions were from Venus, and had landed on March 16, 1957, with a 3-year mission to invite the Earth to join the interstellar community, who had had their eyes on us ever since the atomic bomb blasts in World War II. Val was brought to meet President Eisenhower and Vice President Nixon, who put him up in an apartment at the Pentagon. He traveled and met with many government officials. Then, at the end of his mission, he dematerialized on March 16, 1960. Science fiction fans among will you immediately recognize this as the plot of the 1951 movie The Day the Earth Stood Still. But that's just the first of many red flags festooning this tale, perhaps the largest being that we now know Venus is far from being inhabitable by any life, and wouldn't really make its residents part of "the interstellar community" anyway. Another red flag is that although the TV show Ancient Aliens described Stranges as "A federal marshal and chaplain who had top secret security clearance at the Pentagon", he never worked as a marshal or in any type of government or law enforcement, never worked at the Pentagon, and certainly never had "top security clearance". He claimed to be the Assistant Deputy Director of the California State Marshal Association, which does not exist. California has no state marshals. There are other problems with Stranges' credentials. His author's biography says that he received a bachelor's degree in theology plus Ph.Ds in both psychology and philosophy from Faith Theological Seminary in Florida. Faith Theological Seminary is a real accredited religious college, but does not offer Ph.Ds in either discipline. In his later years he began also claiming a Ph.D in Criminology from the National Institute of Criminology in Washington, D.C., but there is no such institution. There are several unaccredited universities with similar names overseas, but none of them offer Ph.Ds at all. Nevertheless, Stranges has written as "Dr. Frank E. Stranges" ever since. With so many problems right out of the gate, who would give his book any credence? *** The movie the day of the earth stood still in 1951 based on TRUE event of Valiant Thor mission to earth in 1940s of his brother Donn Thor. Long before they met Frank Stranges in 1959 in the Pentagon. The Pentagon and the Navy secret department had known and worked with both Thor's brothers since 1940 or earlier. It wasn't a BIG surprised to certain Navy secret project section had worked with them during WWII. The Venusians human looking angels are no strangers to the Naval Above top secret section department. No Nathan, Val and his companions landed on earth on March 16, 1957. The movie based on this was done in 1951 not the 1940s story. Prove that the 1940s story actually happened then or if it was not added later
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Post by fixit on Jul 5, 2020 18:07:42 GMT -5
Well, these events are NOT record in the Bible because the RCC closed the Bible without adding anything to it around 95 A.D. No doubt people like you would have added to the bible.....and added to the confusion.
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Post by fixit on Jul 5, 2020 18:14:44 GMT -5
We've convinced everyone but you. **** I have 5 believers believe that Jesus lives inside of Venus planet according to Curly's poll... That is NOT bad the numbers are growing, it begins to make makes sense to some, eh... Keep on sharing I guess and one day it will prove that I am correct. They're closet disciples Nathan. Or people who enjoy the entertainment. No one is admitting to faith in your Jesus-lives-in-Venus science fiction.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 18:18:35 GMT -5
Well, these events are NOT record in the Bible because the RCC closed the Bible without adding anything to it around 95 A.D. No doubt people like you would have added to the bible.....and added to the confusion. Maybe nothing is added or fixed in Christianity because it is dead. There is nobody with a pipeline to (relationship with) God, so all you have is a dead book to worship. Which is called idolatry. As to confusion, it reigns among and between the self described, self appointed Christians, regarding what it says, what it means, what should be included, just for starters. Nathan is the least example of the problems.
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 18:36:28 GMT -5
*** The movie the day of the earth stood still in 1951 based on TRUE event of Valiant Thor mission to earth in 1940s of his brother Donn Thor. Long before they met Frank Stranges in 1959 in the Pentagon. The Pentagon and the Navy secret department had known and worked with both Thor's brothers since 1940 or earlier. It wasn't a BIG surprised to certain Navy secret project section had worked with them during WWII. The Venusians human looking angels are no strangers to the Naval Above top secret section department. No Nathan, Val and his companions landed on earth on March 16, 1957. The movie based on this was done in 1951 not the 1940s story. Prove that the 1940s story actually happened then or if it was not added later Here is a video of Phil Schneider lecture how he met Valiant Thor one time in person. He told and showed picture of Val/Donn Thor on front of his father Oscar Schneider during the Eldridge ship "Philadelphia" Experiment= Time Travel.
Listen to the video at the end, where Phil S. showed the picture of one of the Thor brothers. They had worked for U.S. Naval Intelligence for 58 years since the late 1930s. 6 min. Video . The Thor's brothers came to earth officially by the U.S. gov't from the Interior planet Venus to earth in 1930s long before the movie the earth stood still in 1951.www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oTXEklz4Kc
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Post by Annan on Jul 5, 2020 18:39:23 GMT -5
You've blown a gasket, Nathan.
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 18:39:34 GMT -5
No doubt people like you would have added to the bible.....and added to the confusion. Maybe nothing is added or fixed in Christianity because it is dead. There is nobody with a pipeline to (relationship with) God, so all you have is a dead book to worship. Which is caled idolatry. As to confusion, it reigns among and between the self described, self appointed Christians, Nathan is the least example of the problems. Amen, bro... I gave the folks on TMB the update of what is God doing/working the last 75 years AFTER the RCC closed the Bible events in 95 A.D. the book of Revelation written by John the apostle.
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 18:41:04 GMT -5
You've blown a gasket, Nathan. No, you are a doubting Thomas/unbeliever and an atheist that is why you don't believe the Bible, God, Christ or any Supreme beings, Satan, angels and so on... It's you who have blown the gasket NOT me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 18:44:24 GMT -5
I'd like to get back to the purpose of this thread, Was Jesus God, temporarily in a man's clothing (so to speak), Or a man, born of the spirit to begin with, (the water a matter of proprieties) but subject to failure, i.e. loss of faith. Why is it necessary to believe one way or the other?
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 19:01:23 GMT -5
I'd like to get back to the purpose of this thread, Was Jesus God, temporarily in a man's clothing (so to speak), Or a man, born of the spirit to begin with, (the water a matter of proprieties) but subject to failure, i.e. loss of faith. Why is it necessary to believe one way or the other? Ok.. Christ/God from heaven came down to this planet and lived in the person Jesus/body to die for our sins so, we MUST accept Him as our Redeemer and Savior to be SAVED. Very simple way to understand the plans of the Godhead. There is no other way..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 19:22:35 GMT -5
Thanks Nathan, Gotta go for now, Hopefully others will chime in too and help out on this one.
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Post by iam on Jul 5, 2020 21:28:12 GMT -5
We've convinced everyone but you. **** I have 5 believers believe that Jesus lives inside of Venus planet according to Curly's poll... That is NOT bad the numbers are growing, it begins to make makes sense to some, eh... Keep on sharing I guess and one day it will prove that I am correct. Keep it up, Nathan and I will make that 6. 6 people that are pulling your leg 😄
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Post by iam on Jul 5, 2020 21:30:28 GMT -5
Another pass on the trinity? Sure! I’ll pass!
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 5, 2020 23:04:18 GMT -5
No Nathan, Val and his companions landed on earth on March 16, 1957. The movie based on this was done in 1951 not the 1940s story. Prove that the 1940s story actually happened then or if it was not added later Here is a video of Phil Schneider lecture how he met Valiant Thor one time in person. He told and showed picture of Val/Donn Thor on front of his father Oscar Schneider during the Eldridge ship "Philadelphia" Experiment= Time Travel.
Listen to the video at the end, where Phil S. showed the picture of one of the Thor brothers. They had worked for U.S. Naval Intelligence for 58 years since the late 1930s. 6 min. Video . The Thor's brothers came to earth officially by the U.S. gov't from the Interior planet Venus to earth in 1930s long before the movie the earth stood still in 1951.www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oTXEklz4Kc
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Post by Dan on Jul 5, 2020 23:59:18 GMT -5
I'd like to get back to the purpose of this thread, Was Jesus God, temporarily in a man's clothing (so to speak), Or a man, born of the spirit to begin with, (the water a matter of proprieties) but subject to failure, i.e. loss of faith. Why is it necessary to believe one way or the other?
Yes, he was the Word (God) manifested in the flesh. He wasn't born of the spirit, he was born of woman. The Spirit came at his baptism, "The Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him" (Luke 3:22). I personally don't believe he was subject to failure, and certainly not a loss of faith, as he did neither.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 0:05:01 GMT -5
I'd like to get back to the purpose of this thread, Was Jesus God, temporarily in a man's clothing (so to speak), Or a man, born of the spirit to begin with, (the water a matter of proprieties) but subject to failure, i.e. loss of faith. Why is it necessary to believe one way or the other?
Yes, he was the Word (God) manifested in the flesh. He wasn't born of the spirit, he was born of woman. The Spirit came at his baptism, "The Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him" (Luke 3:22). I personally don't believe he was subject to failure, and certainly not a loss of faith, as he did neither.
he was tempted just as we all are but choose not to give in to temptation so i say he could have failed but didn't...if he couldn't have failed then he was just going through the motions and everything was a farce...i don't like that idea....
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Post by ForeverFree on Jul 6, 2020 0:15:29 GMT -5
Tell us again why you are no longer a worker. *** haha sure, God has another important mission for me to be on... To inform, educate and warn people to prepare and get ready for Jesus coming for the believers NEW chapter... Reigning with Christ 1000 yrs on earth and the Universe. So Nathan, you were asked to leave the work.
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Post by nathan on Jul 6, 2020 0:45:22 GMT -5
*** haha sure, God has another important mission for me to be on... To inform, educate and warn people to prepare and get ready for Jesus coming for the believers NEW chapter... Reigning with Christ 1000 yrs on earth and the Universe.So Nathan, you were asked to leave the work. Nope, I wasn't asked by the overseer to leave the work, I left on my own. They want me to STAY in the work. It was the will of God for me to be on TMB, now you all KNOW why, I left the work.
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Post by Dan on Jul 6, 2020 0:54:41 GMT -5
Yes, he was the Word (God) manifested in the flesh. He wasn't born of the spirit, he was born of woman. The Spirit came at his baptism, "The Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him" (Luke 3:22). I personally don't believe he was subject to failure, and certainly not a loss of faith, as he did neither.
he was tempted just as we all are but choose not to give in to temptation so i say he could have failed but didn't...if he couldn't have failed then he was just going through the motions and everything was a farce...i don't like that idea....
Yes, the devil certainly tempted him in the wilderness. When he was offered all the kingdoms of the world though (Mat 4:8), I don't think he sat up all night contemplating whether or not to take the deal .
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Post by Grant on Jul 6, 2020 1:04:34 GMT -5
So Nathan, you were asked to leave the work. Nope, I wasn't asked by the overseer to leave the work, I left on my own. It was the will of God for me to be on TMB, now you all KNOW why, I left the work.How long after did you left the work did you meet your wife? Were you asked to stop taking part in meeting for marrying a Catholic woman?
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