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Post by Grant on Jul 4, 2020 22:50:51 GMT -5
Thanks Nathan Could you please shoot me a Bible reference where GOD THE CHRIST had fellowship with Abraham? Thanks again my friend. Christ/God had MANY names... One of the is the Yahweh, LORD/Adonai.... Read Genesis chapters 17-19, Where God/LORD Christ made a covenant with Abraham and Sarah that He would be born in the person Jesus through their descendants.
God the Christ appeared in a human form/body with TWO of His humans looking-angels/the Venusians... Like Valiant, Donn Thor to tell Abraham and Sarah the birth of their son Isaac and one of his descendants to be the human/Jesus Redeemer and Savior. 10 Powerful Names of God that refer to God the Christ. www.ibelieve.com/faith/10-powerful-names-of-god-and-what-they-mean-for-us-today.htmlMan you add to the Bible inserting words to try and twist it to say what you want it to. God made a covenant with Abraham and Sarah, it does not say Christ. It also says Angels, not venusians. Valiant, Donn Thor is not in the Bible. You have invented your own Bible, Nathan.
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Post by nathan on Jul 4, 2020 23:08:41 GMT -5
Christ/God had MANY names... One of the is the Yahweh, LORD/Adonai.... Read Genesis chapters 17-19, Where God/LORD Christ made a covenant with Abraham and Sarah that He would be born in the person Jesus through their descendants.
God the Christ appeared in a human form/body with TWO of His humans looking-angels/the Venusians... Like Valiant, Donn Thor to tell Abraham and Sarah the birth of their son Isaac and one of his descendants to be the human/Jesus Redeemer and Savior. 10 Powerful Names of God that refer to God the Christ. www.ibelieve.com/faith/10-powerful-names-of-god-and-what-they-mean-for-us-today.html Man you add to the Bible inserting words to try and twist it to say what you want it to. God made covenant with Abraham and Sarah, it does not say Christ. It also says Angels, not venusians. Valiant, Door Thor is not in the Bible. You have invented your own Bible, Nathan. Like I said the Bible is NOT a complete book of God's library. The RCC in the 4th Century only canonized 66 books out of 100s books= the Bible as we known today. The Bible is ONLY 4000 years history mostly of the Jewish nation. There are many books were left out, and the Bible was a closed book 2000 years ago. We do NOT have any historical documents added to the Bible for 2000 years. God has revealed to us His latest plans through His Holy Human looking angels the Venusians the last 60 years.Christ is God/Yahweh the Son... The blood of Jesus= Christ/God was shed before the foundation of the world for the sins of humanity. It was Christ/God walking, talking, to Adam and Eve in garden of Eden.... It was Christ/God who foretold them, and He made covenant with Abraham that He himself would enter the world and He/Jesus would Redeem them and their fallen human children through a seed of a woman on Calvary's Cross. Genesis 3:15.... Christ/God reveals His plan of Redemption to many of His Old Testament prophets for the next 4000 years, His birth, where he was born, and to live, his life and death and resurrection and Return to set up His eternal kingdom as King of kings.Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 Read Genesis chapters 18-19"The Lord (Elohiem) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals."The smoke rose into the heavenly and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth." "She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning." www.rense.com/general66/cave.htm
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Post by Grant on Jul 4, 2020 23:48:05 GMT -5
They are not the Dead Sea Scrolls at all. They are fake translations
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 4, 2020 23:49:56 GMT -5
There is nothing so deceptive as a self-taught/uncoached education.
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Post by nathan on Jul 4, 2020 23:54:01 GMT -5
They are not the Dead Sea Scrolls at all. They are fake translations Well, that is your opinion... No FAKE news.
Revelations Of The Dead Sea Scrolls
The following, as deciphered from caves 1, 3, 4 and 7, are deemed sensitive and remain unavailable for public inspection by those who seek to control the Truth for their own devices. rense.com/general66/cave.htm~~ In 1957 President Eisenhower asked Val. Thor, "Which planet are you from?" He said, "I am from the planet your Bible calls the Bright and Morning Star." President said, "You mean the planet Venus." Val said, "Yes, sir."
2000 yrs ago, Jesus revealed to John the apostle and to all of the believers in Christ, where HE is from and living at the time, the Planet Venus in Rev. 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 0:26:36 GMT -5
~~ Cave #1 From the Dead Sea Scrolls: UFO/The wheel within the Wheel/Chariot of fire and heavenly Created Beings/Angels from the planet Venus Morning and Evening Star. Rev. 22:16 Jesus revealed to His people that He is from the Bright and Morning Star= Planet Venus but he is living inside the Interior planet of Venus.
Frank Potter was a member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank group/Melchizedek
"The Stranger at The Pentagon" book written by Pastor Frank E. Stranges is just the beginning. The many wonderful truths in the book "Outwitting Tomorrow" are only the tip of the iceberg. Val Thor an Elohim or "Created Being" whose home is on Venus ; is the leader of the Solar Councils mission to earth. He was directly commissioned by Sananda-Yehoshua The Christ to oversee the planetary redemption plans to liberate earth an to make the people of earth aware that we are not alone in the universe.
Valiant Thor also has spoken to the United Nations on several occasions. Val has worked with the governments of the world to offer them interplanetary cultural exchange which would allow earth to advance in terms of technology. The governments or Cabal refused his offer of assistance to earth many years ago because it would threaten their positions of power and make our financial systems obsolete. Open contact would bring in free energy and advanced healing putting the pharmaceutical industries of sickness as well as the oil and electrical companies out of business as well.
The Stranger at The Pentagon. He met Dr. Frank Stranges at the pentagon in 1957 and began a long association which has been the source of a tremendous volume of spiritual information that Dr. Frank faithfully revealed to the world over his 61 year ministry. Dr. Frank was an earthly member of the council of 12. This council was comprised of 6 space family members and 6 earthly counterparts. This council met regularly and discussed the plans and actions of how to administer humanity into the realization we are not alone on earth and we are responsible for our own spiritual awareness.
Dr Frank was given many lessons on the true history of the earth. He was also taken to Venus several times and to the inner earth agarthan network where he actually saw unicorns, mastadons and other dinosaurs including the famous Sasquatch. Commander Thor introduced him to large benevolent beings from 9-14 feet tall. Dr Frank was chosen by Val to share the revelations of the Dead Sea Scrolls which have been hidden from humanity by the Jewish authorities.
He was privileged to meet the Ascended master Yehoshua the Christ on several occasions and you hear details of these astounding encounters. He was able to view holograms of earths ancient history on special "History Coins" which projected the records of the Akashic right before his eyes. He shares the truth of the star of Bethlehem and When Moses met the Burning Bush. He shares the true eyewitness details of the Last Supper. You will learned who killed both Kennedy's and the location of the 12 Victor class spaceships which encircle the earth in their mission to oversee and protect the earth from hostile forces.
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Post by Grant on Jul 5, 2020 1:03:11 GMT -5
Well, that says it all. Proof enough that it's fake.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 5, 2020 1:14:23 GMT -5
~~ Cave #1 From the Dead Sea Scrolls: UFO/The wheel within the Wheel/Chariot of fire and heavenly Created Beings/Angels from the planet Venus Morning and Evening Star. Rev. 22:16 Jesus revealed to His people that He is from the Bright and Morning Star= Planet Venus but he is living inside the Interior planet of Venus.
Frank Potter was a member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank group/Melchizedek
"The Stranger at The Pentagon" book written by Pastor Frank E. Stranges is just the beginning. The many wonderful truths in the book "Outwitting Tomorrow" are only the tip of the iceberg. Val Thor an Elohim or "Created Being" whose home is on Venus ; is the leader of the Solar Councils mission to earth. He was directly commissioned by Sananda-Yehoshua The Christ to oversee the planetary redemption plans to liberate earth an to make the people of earth aware that we are not alone in the universe.
Valiant Thor also has spoken to the United Nations on several occasions. Val has worked with the governments of the world to offer them interplanetary cultural exchange which would allow earth to advance in terms of technology. The governments or Cabal refused his offer of assistance to earth many years ago because it would threaten their positions of power and make our financial systems obsolete. Open contact would bring in free energy and advanced healing putting the pharmaceutical industries of sickness as well as the oil and electrical companies out of business as well.
The Stranger at The Pentagon. He met Dr. Frank Stranges at the pentagon in 1957 and began a long association which has been the source of a tremendous volume of spiritual information that Dr. Frank faithfully revealed to the world over his 61 year ministry. Dr. Frank was an earthly member of the council of 12. This council was comprised of 6 space family members and 6 earthly counterparts. This council met regularly and discussed the plans and actions of how to administer humanity into the realization we are not alone on earth and we are responsible for our own spiritual awareness. Dr Frank was given many lessons on the true history of the earth. He was also taken to Venus several times and to the inner earth agarthan network where he actually saw unicorns, mastadons and other dinosaurs including the famous Sasquatch. Commander Thor introduced him to large benevolent beings from 9-14 feet tall. Dr Frank was chosen by Val to share the revelations of the Dead Sea Scrolls which have been hidden from humanity by the Jewish authorities. He was privileged to meet the Ascended master Yehoshua the Christ on several occasions and you hear details of these astounding encounters. He was able to view holograms of earths ancient history on special "History Coins" which projected the records of the Akashic right before his eyes. He shares the truth of the star of Bethlehem and When Moses met the Burning Bush. He shares the true eyewitness details of the Last Supper. You will learned who killed both Kennedy's and the location of the 12 Victor class spaceships which encircle the earth in their mission to oversee and protect the earth from hostile forces. What a load of bollocks
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 1:14:45 GMT -5
Well, that says it all. Proof enough that it's fake. Oh, doubting Thomas.
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 1:16:40 GMT -5
~~ Cave #1 From the Dead Sea Scrolls: UFO/The wheel within the Wheel/Chariot of fire and heavenly Created Beings/Angels from the planet Venus Morning and Evening Star. Rev. 22:16 Jesus revealed to His people that He is from the Bright and Morning Star= Planet Venus but he is living inside the Interior planet of Venus.
Frank Potter was a member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank group/Melchizedek
"The Stranger at The Pentagon" book written by Pastor Frank E. Stranges is just the beginning. The many wonderful truths in the book "Outwitting Tomorrow" are only the tip of the iceberg. Val Thor an Elohim or "Created Being" whose home is on Venus ; is the leader of the Solar Councils mission to earth. He was directly commissioned by Sananda-Yehoshua The Christ to oversee the planetary redemption plans to liberate earth an to make the people of earth aware that we are not alone in the universe.
Valiant Thor also has spoken to the United Nations on several occasions. Val has worked with the governments of the world to offer them interplanetary cultural exchange which would allow earth to advance in terms of technology. The governments or Cabal refused his offer of assistance to earth many years ago because it would threaten their positions of power and make our financial systems obsolete. Open contact would bring in free energy and advanced healing putting the pharmaceutical industries of sickness as well as the oil and electrical companies out of business as well.
The Stranger at The Pentagon. He met Dr. Frank Stranges at the pentagon in 1957 and began a long association which has been the source of a tremendous volume of spiritual information that Dr. Frank faithfully revealed to the world over his 61 year ministry. Dr. Frank was an earthly member of the council of 12. This council was comprised of 6 space family members and 6 earthly counterparts. This council met regularly and discussed the plans and actions of how to administer humanity into the realization we are not alone on earth and we are responsible for our own spiritual awareness. Dr Frank was given many lessons on the true history of the earth. He was also taken to Venus several times and to the inner earth agarthan network where he actually saw unicorns, mastadons and other dinosaurs including the famous Sasquatch. Commander Thor introduced him to large benevolent beings from 9-14 feet tall. Dr Frank was chosen by Val to share the revelations of the Dead Sea Scrolls which have been hidden from humanity by the Jewish authorities. He was privileged to meet the Ascended master Yehoshua the Christ on several occasions and you hear details of these astounding encounters. He was able to view holograms of earths ancient history on special "History Coins" which projected the records of the Akashic right before his eyes. He shares the truth of the star of Bethlehem and When Moses met the Burning Bush. He shares the true eyewitness details of the Last Supper. You will learned who killed both Kennedy's and the location of the 12 Victor class spaceships which encircle the earth in their mission to oversee and protect the earth from hostile forces. What a load of bollocks Another, Doubting Thomas. You can write to him/Frank Potter, and let me KNOW he is a bullock. The above article was posted on his own website. Frank Potter KNEW Frank Stranges personally, he was one of his high ranking followers of Melchizedek Order.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 5, 2020 1:35:44 GMT -5
Bullock = bovine, bollocks = look it up
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 5, 2020 1:46:07 GMT -5
They are not the Dead Sea Scrolls at all. They are fake translations Well said enuf. They bear no resemblance at all to the real dead sea scrolls.
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Post by mountain on Jul 5, 2020 2:31:29 GMT -5
Nathan, if you wish to take an authoratative position in this matter please consult Virgs beforehand and seek proper support for your views. Until you do you will greatly err. The first thing people do when you post is that they look for Virgs' sanction or approval and when they see none, they know you are fair game for the onslaught. Get Virgs behind you and you will see a lot of dust in front of you, obscuring the rapid departure of your opponents. That's just the way it is! Take heed!
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Post by Dan on Jul 5, 2020 3:17:43 GMT -5
That's the brain teaser that people have a tough time grasping, e.g; if Jesus was God, who was he praying too?
Jesus was the Word from the beginning, and the Word was God (John 1:1). When the Word was manifested in the flesh, it was necessary for Jesus to refer to the Father in the third person even though they are one (John 10:30). But even though the Word became the Son of Man, he was also Emmanuel (God with us). I believe that for example sake, Jesus demonstrated as a man what pleases God the Father and how we should relate to Him. God's Word is not separate from God, just as your words and spirit are you, because they can emanate from no one else. God is a Spirit (John 4:24), and the same Spirit descended upon Jesus (Luke 3:22). So the Father, Son, & Spirit are one in the same, just revealing different aspects and functions of a single entity. Jesus told Philip that seeing him was seeing the Father (John 14:9). Heaven is where God is, Jesus said, "The kingdom of God is in your midst" (Luke 17:21 NIV).
" ... No man hath seen GOD at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him ..."John 1:18 God told Moses in Exodus 33:20 " ...Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live ..." IJOHN 4-15" ... No man hath seen GOD at any time. If we love one another; God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us ..." " ...he hath given us of his spirit..." " ... and we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the son to be the saviour of the world ..." "Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God" NOTE: " ... GOD sent the son ..." It says "whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the 'son' of GOD..." It does not say to confess that 'JESUS IS GOD' Why would GOD be so evasive if JESUS were actually GOD, and why did GOD exhalt Jesus? Why wouldn't Jesus say I AM GOD! Why the big secret and mystery?
No one has seen God the Father, but they've seen God the Son as the Son of Man; "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Colossians 2:9). Spiritually speaking, that's what I believe Jesus was saying with; "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father" (John 14:9). Yeshua means YHVH's Savior, Jesus was God the Savior.
"Son of God" does not mean that Jesus is not God, no more than"Son of Man" means that Jesus is not a man. If "Son of Man" means that Jesus is a man, then"Son of God" means that he is God?
"I and my Father are one" (John 10:30). The Spirit of Truth proceedeth from the Father (John 15:26), and Jesus was that Truth (John 14:6). The Father & Son are one Spirit, one Word, and one Truth.
Thomas did acknowledge that Jesus was his Lord & God (John 20:28). And when the devil tempted Christ, he said, "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God" (Luke 4:12).
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Post by fixit on Jul 5, 2020 5:21:08 GMT -5
Another, Doubting Thomas. You can write to him/Frank Potter, and let me KNOW he is a bullock. The above article was posted on his own website. Frank Potter KNEW Frank Stranges personally, he was one of his high ranking followers of Melchizedek Order.
Then there is Harry Potter. He's as believable as Frank Potter and Frank Strange. Frankly, I prefer the bible.
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Post by Annan on Jul 5, 2020 6:02:31 GMT -5
They are not the Dead Sea Scrolls at all. They are fake translations Well, that is your opinion... No FAKE news.
Revelations Of The Dead Sea Scrolls
The following, as deciphered from caves 1, 3, 4 and 7, are deemed sensitive and remain unavailable for public inspection by those who seek to control the Truth for their own devices. rense.com/general66/cave.htm~~ In 1957 President Eisenhower asked Val. Thor, "Which planet are you from?" He said, "I am from the planet your Bible calls the Bright and Morning Star." President said, "You mean the planet Venus." Val said, "Yes, sir."
2000 yrs ago, Jesus revealed to John the apostle and to all of the believers in Christ, where HE is from and living at the time, the Planet Venus in Rev. 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. **HEARSAY!!
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 9:38:40 GMT -5
Well, that is your opinion... No FAKE news.
Revelations Of The Dead Sea Scrolls
The following, as deciphered from caves 1, 3, 4 and 7, are deemed sensitive and remain unavailable for public inspection by those who seek to control the Truth for their own devices. rense.com/general66/cave.htm~~ In 1957 President Eisenhower asked Val. Thor, "Which planet are you from?" He said, "I am from the planet your Bible calls the Bright and Morning Star." President said, "You mean the planet Venus." Val said, "Yes, sir."
2000 yrs ago, Jesus revealed to John the apostle and to all of the believers in Christ, where HE is from and living at the time, the Planet Venus in Rev. 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. **HEARSAY!! NOT hearsay or Fake news! Oh, yea DOUBTING Thomas. Valiant Thor The Human Alien From Venus, Washington D.C. V.I.P. During Late 50'sThe Valiant Thor Landing 002741-57 Room 4D-717 Project Blue Book April, 1957During the winter of 1956-57, the Washington, D.C. area was extremely cold, but it was a good feeling to be working in a high security position in the Pentagon. I lived only a short distance away in Georgetown, the old section of the Nation's Capital. Senator John F. Kennedy lived on "O" Street just a block away from our house on Prospect. During a successful tour with the U.S. Naval Ceremonial Honor Guard, we had met with astronauts Glen, Cooper, Wally Sherrar, who were the first wave of successful space travelers. Also we had visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier numerous times. It seemed like every time a visiting dignitary came to Washington, they lay a wreath at the tomb. We had met the Queen of England several times at the airport, as these were some of the duties I performed as a young officer in the Navy. After carrying the 2-Star flag at the funeral of my late uncle, Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, I was recommended for a security clearance and was granted a Top Secret Clearance after a lengthy six-month background study (B1 complete 1957). After being transferred to the Chief of Naval Information (CHINFO), I worked in the Security Clearance section before being indoctrinated into the branch office of the Air Force called PROJECT BLUE BOOK. It was a joint service office; that is, two Marines, two Army, two Navy and three Air Force officers. The work was routine, opening incoming mail, sorting out what was called actual sightings as opposed to many fake UFO photos. We also acted as a Public Information Office (PIO), much like a public relations office. Every publisher's dream was to get the real low down on the UFO situation, which was suppressed by the group that dictated national policy on the UFO matter. In mid March, 1957, we received an urgent message from the Alexandria Police Department. The message indicated that two of their on-duty police officers had picked up an alien who had landed some 14 miles south of Pentagon Boulevard, and the occupant was transported to the Pentagon to meet with the Under Secretary of Defense and then shuttled underground to meet with President Eisenhower and Vice President Richard Nixon. The meeting lasted for nearly an hour and then, the alien visitor was put on VIP status and was shuttled back to the Pentagon where he spent the night in the Army reception office on the first floor near the concourse. This alien's name was Valiant Thor.
Commander James was on duty at the Security Clearance and Review for the branch officer of the Project Blue Book. He oversaw the meeting through official channels and reported the landing and meeting of the "space emissary", as he was labeled by the Department of Defense, to a governing group of high military officials including Secretary of Defense F.F. Forestall and other scientific men of which there were twelve. They in turn made recommendations to the President and Cabinet members, the CIA, FBI, NSA, and so on.
The landing of Valiant Thor was perhaps the first documented landing of a human-type alien by military officials. He contacted an individual in the Pentagon who was an advocate of the UFO alien situation. "Nancy Warren" in turn contacted a minister, who was also a private investigator and theologian, a Dr. Frank E. Stranges, who then met with this individual. Dr. Stranges had been a guest speaker at the National Evangelistic Center for two weeks. Val Thor landed in Alexandria and met with the President to discuss the world's problems and offer advice and counsel on how to deal with and eliminate them. Safe to say that the problems he was discussing were more complex than savings bonds. He indicated to Mr. Eisenhower that the world was in a precarious situation and that if the world continued to proceed on a war footing - it would cause an economic imbalance throughout the world. Val Thor stayed on Earth until March 16, 1960, and then disembarked to his home planet Venus.
He indicated that his race of people lived and dwelled underground and that many of the planets throughout the universe sustain life in this same manner. He also mentioned the waves of aliens who would land around the world to help with the Earth's seemingly insurmountable problems. He stated that a group from a distant planetary system would be coming to give aid and data to help the Earth's progress. Val Thor spoke of Christ's presence in the universe and that it was heartwarming to see Christ's advanced teaching continuing. This visitation at the Pentagon marks perhaps a new era in knowledge, wisdom and understanding on our planet.
- Harley Andrew Byrd (The grandson of Admiral Richard E. Byrd)
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Post by Annan on Jul 5, 2020 9:56:11 GMT -5
NOT hearsay or Fake news! Oh, yea DOUBTING Thomas. Valiant Thor The Human Alien From Venus, Washington D.C. V.I.P. During Late 50'sThe Valiant Thor Landing 002741-57 Room 4D-717 Project Blue Book April, 1957During the winter of 1956-57, the Washington, D.C. area was extremely cold, but it was a good feeling to be working in a high security position in the Pentagon. I lived only a short distance away in Georgetown, the old section of the Nation's Capital. Senator John F. Kennedy lived on "O" Street just a block away from our house on Prospect. During a successful tour with the U.S. Naval Ceremonial Honor Guard, we had met with astronauts Glen, Cooper, Wally Sherrar, who were the first wave of successful space travelers. Also we had visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier numerous times. It seemed like every time a visiting dignitary came to Washington, they lay a wreath at the tomb. We had met the Queen of England several times at the airport, as these were some of the duties I performed as a young officer in the Navy. After carrying the 2-Star flag at the funeral of my late uncle, Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, I was recommended for a security clearance and was granted a Top Secret Clearance after a lengthy six-month background study (B1 complete 1957). After being transferred to the Chief of Naval Information (CHINFO), I worked in the Security Clearance section before being indoctrinated into the branch office of the Air Force called PROJECT BLUE BOOK. It was a joint service office; that is, two Marines, two Army, two Navy and three Air Force officers. The work was routine, opening incoming mail, sorting out what was called actual sightings as opposed to many fake UFO photos. We also acted as a Public Information Office (PIO), much like a public relations office. Every publisher's dream was to get the real low down on the UFO situation, which was suppressed by the group that dictated national policy on the UFO matter. In mid March, 1957, we received an urgent message from the Alexandria Police Department. The message indicated that two of their on-duty police officers had picked up an alien who had landed some 14 miles south of Pentagon Boulevard, and the occupant was transported to the Pentagon to meet with the Under Secretary of Defense and then shuttled underground to meet with President Eisenhower and Vice President Richard Nixon. The meeting lasted for nearly an hour and then, the alien visitor was put on VIP status and was shuttled back to the Pentagon where he spent the night in the Army reception office on the first floor near the concourse. This alien's name was Valiant Thor.
Commander James was on duty at the Security Clearance and Review for the branch officer of the Project Blue Book. He oversaw the meeting through official channels and reported the landing and meeting of the "space emissary", as he was labeled by the Department of Defense, to a governing group of high military officials including Secretary of Defense F.F. Forestall and other scientific men of which there were twelve. They in turn made recommendations to the President and Cabinet members, the CIA, FBI, NSA, and so on.
The landing of Valiant Thor was perhaps the first documented landing of a human-type alien by military officials. He contacted an individual in the Pentagon who was an advocate of the UFO alien situation. "Nancy Warren" in turn contacted a minister, who was also a private investigator and theologian, a Dr. Frank E. Stranges, who then met with this individual. Dr. Stranges had been a guest speaker at the National Evangelistic Center for two weeks. Val Thor landed in Alexandria and met with the President to discuss the world's problems and offer advice and counsel on how to deal with and eliminate them. Safe to say that the problems he was discussing were more complex than savings bonds. He indicated to Mr. Eisenhower that the world was in a precarious situation and that if the world continued to proceed on a war footing - it would cause an economic imbalance throughout the world. Val Thor stayed on Earth until March 16, 1960, and then disembarked to his home planet Venus.
He indicated that his race of people lived and dwelled underground and that many of the planets throughout the universe sustain life in this same manner. He also mentioned the waves of aliens who would land around the world to help with the Earth's seemingly insurmountable problems. He stated that a group from a distant planetary system would be coming to give aid and data to help the Earth's progress. Val Thor spoke of Christ's presence in the universe and that it was heartwarming to see Christ's advanced teaching continuing. This visitation at the Pentagon marks perhaps a new era in knowledge, wisdom and understanding on our planet.
- Harley Andrew Byrd (The grandson of Admiral Richard E. Byrd) **Did you forget about this, Nathan?professing.proboards.com/thread/24559/god-deal-non-truthers?page=5
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 11:01:03 GMT -5
NOT hearsay or Fake news! Oh, yea DOUBTING Thomas. Valiant Thor The Human Alien From Venus, Washington D.C. V.I.P. During Late 50'sThe Valiant Thor Landing 002741-57 Room 4D-717 Project Blue Book April, 1957During the winter of 1956-57, the Washington, D.C. area was extremely cold, but it was a good feeling to be working in a high security position in the Pentagon. I lived only a short distance away in Georgetown, the old section of the Nation's Capital. Senator John F. Kennedy lived on "O" Street just a block away from our house on Prospect. During a successful tour with the U.S. Naval Ceremonial Honor Guard, we had met with astronauts Glen, Cooper, Wally Sherrar, who were the first wave of successful space travelers. Also we had visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier numerous times. It seemed like every time a visiting dignitary came to Washington, they lay a wreath at the tomb. We had met the Queen of England several times at the airport, as these were some of the duties I performed as a young officer in the Navy. After carrying the 2-Star flag at the funeral of my late uncle, Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, I was recommended for a security clearance and was granted a Top Secret Clearance after a lengthy six-month background study (B1 complete 1957). After being transferred to the Chief of Naval Information (CHINFO), I worked in the Security Clearance section before being indoctrinated into the branch office of the Air Force called PROJECT BLUE BOOK. It was a joint service office; that is, two Marines, two Army, two Navy and three Air Force officers. The work was routine, opening incoming mail, sorting out what was called actual sightings as opposed to many fake UFO photos. We also acted as a Public Information Office (PIO), much like a public relations office. Every publisher's dream was to get the real low down on the UFO situation, which was suppressed by the group that dictated national policy on the UFO matter. In mid March, 1957, we received an urgent message from the Alexandria Police Department. The message indicated that two of their on-duty police officers had picked up an alien who had landed some 14 miles south of Pentagon Boulevard, and the occupant was transported to the Pentagon to meet with the Under Secretary of Defense and then shuttled underground to meet with President Eisenhower and Vice President Richard Nixon. The meeting lasted for nearly an hour and then, the alien visitor was put on VIP status and was shuttled back to the Pentagon where he spent the night in the Army reception office on the first floor near the concourse. This alien's name was Valiant Thor.
Commander James was on duty at the Security Clearance and Review for the branch officer of the Project Blue Book. He oversaw the meeting through official channels and reported the landing and meeting of the "space emissary", as he was labeled by the Department of Defense, to a governing group of high military officials including Secretary of Defense F.F. Forestall and other scientific men of which there were twelve. They in turn made recommendations to the President and Cabinet members, the CIA, FBI, NSA, and so on.
The landing of Valiant Thor was perhaps the first documented landing of a human-type alien by military officials. He contacted an individual in the Pentagon who was an advocate of the UFO alien situation. "Nancy Warren" in turn contacted a minister, who was also a private investigator and theologian, a Dr. Frank E. Stranges, who then met with this individual. Dr. Stranges had been a guest speaker at the National Evangelistic Center for two weeks. Val Thor landed in Alexandria and met with the President to discuss the world's problems and offer advice and counsel on how to deal with and eliminate them. Safe to say that the problems he was discussing were more complex than savings bonds. He indicated to Mr. Eisenhower that the world was in a precarious situation and that if the world continued to proceed on a war footing - it would cause an economic imbalance throughout the world. Val Thor stayed on Earth until March 16, 1960, and then disembarked to his home planet Venus.
He indicated that his race of people lived and dwelled underground and that many of the planets throughout the universe sustain life in this same manner. He also mentioned the waves of aliens who would land around the world to help with the Earth's seemingly insurmountable problems. He stated that a group from a distant planetary system would be coming to give aid and data to help the Earth's progress. Val Thor spoke of Christ's presence in the universe and that it was heartwarming to see Christ's advanced teaching continuing. This visitation at the Pentagon marks perhaps a new era in knowledge, wisdom and understanding on our planet.
- Harley Andrew Byrd (The grandson of Admiral Richard E. Byrd) **Did you forget about this, Nathan?professing.proboards.com/thread/24559/god-deal-non-truthers?page=5** Rational and I went over this MANY TIMES ALREADY! On the Art Bell radio show interview Andrew Harley said to Art Admiral Byrd was his grandfather. He is telling the truth I have shown the document to Rational prove Harley was correct. I still have the proof on my computer,you need to do your own research instead relying on Rational faulty understanding. I did my own research on Harley B. I learned after the Blue book project shut down , he worked for top Secret gov't in communication with different ET races on earth. Phil S. was one them, a few was able to communicate with ET race. His father Oscar S. met and hnew Donn Thor in 1940S at the Philadelphia Naval experiment with time travel. Both of these men father and grandfather had dealing with ET races in the past. Well, these events are NOT record in the Bible because the RCC closed the Bible without adding anything to it around 95 A.D. MANY of these events are NOT record in the Bible it didn't mean they are NOT TRUE.
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Post by Annan on Jul 5, 2020 13:52:48 GMT -5
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Post by Annan on Jul 5, 2020 14:09:16 GMT -5
I still have the proof on my computer,you need to do your own research instead relying on Rational faulty understanding. I did my own research on Harley B. I learned after the Blue book project shut down , he worked for top Secret gov't in communication with different ET races on earth. Phil S. was one them, a few was able to communicate with ET race. His father Oscar S. met and hnew Donn Thor in 1940S at the Philadelphia Naval experiment with time travel. **You did your own research??? Who did you interview? Anyone is capable of doing internet searches and reading a book or two.
Those people are liars, Nathan. It's a serious shame that you buy into this crap. I wasn't going to say it, but those petrel fumes have seriously screwed with your mind.
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Post by Grant on Jul 5, 2020 14:16:49 GMT -5
Valiant Thor: Your Friendly Pentagon Alien skeptoid.com/episodes/4675Val and his companions were from Venus, and had landed on March 16, 1957, with a 3-year mission to invite the Earth to join the interstellar community, who had had their eyes on us ever since the atomic bomb blasts in World War II. Val was brought to meet President Eisenhower and Vice President Nixon, who put him up in an apartment at the Pentagon. He traveled and met with many government officials. Then, at the end of his mission, he dematerialized on March 16, 1960. Science fiction fans among will you immediately recognize this as the plot of the 1951 movie The Day the Earth Stood Still. But that's just the first of many red flags festooning this tale, perhaps the largest being that we now know Venus is far from being inhabitable by any life, and wouldn't really make its residents part of "the interstellar community" anyway. Another red flag is that although the TV show Ancient Aliens described Stranges as "A federal marshal and chaplain who had top secret security clearance at the Pentagon", he never worked as a marshal or in any type of government or law enforcement, never worked at the Pentagon, and certainly never had "top security clearance". He claimed to be the Assistant Deputy Director of the California State Marshal Association, which does not exist. California has no state marshals. There are other problems with Stranges' credentials. His author's biography says that he received a bachelor's degree in theology plus Ph.Ds in both psychology and philosophy from Faith Theological Seminary in Florida. Faith Theological Seminary is a real accredited religious college, but does not offer Ph.Ds in either discipline. In his later years he began also claiming a Ph.D in Criminology from the National Institute of Criminology in Washington, D.C., but there is no such institution. There are several unaccredited universities with similar names overseas, but none of them offer Ph.Ds at all. Nevertheless, Stranges has written as "Dr. Frank E. Stranges" ever since. With so many problems right out of the gate, who would give his book any credence?
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 15:26:15 GMT -5
I still have the proof on my computer,you need to do your own research instead relying on Rational faulty understanding. I did my own research on Harley B. I learned after the Blue book project shut down , he worked for top Secret gov't in communication with different ET races on earth. Phil S. was one them, a few was able to communicate with ET race. His father Oscar S. met and hnew Donn Thor in 1940S at the Philadelphia Naval experiment with time travel. **You did your own research??? Who did you interview? Anyone is capable of doing internet searches and reading a book or two.
Those people are liars, Nathan. It's a serious shame that you buy into this crap. I wasn't going to say it, but those petrel fumes have seriously screwed with your mind.** It took me almost 10 years to find these information And no more petrol fume joke, please. You doubting Thomas has to come up with something better.
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 15:38:07 GMT -5
Valiant Thor: Your Friendly Pentagon Alien skeptoid.com/episodes/4675Val and his companions were from Venus, and had landed on March 16, 1957, with a 3-year mission to invite the Earth to join the interstellar community, who had had their eyes on us ever since the atomic bomb blasts in World War II. Val was brought to meet President Eisenhower and Vice President Nixon, who put him up in an apartment at the Pentagon. He traveled and met with many government officials. Then, at the end of his mission, he dematerialized on March 16, 1960. Science fiction fans among will you immediately recognize this as the plot of the 1951 movie The Day the Earth Stood Still. But that's just the first of many red flags festooning this tale, perhaps the largest being that we now know Venus is far from being inhabitable by any life, and wouldn't really make its residents part of "the interstellar community" anyway. Another red flag is that although the TV show Ancient Aliens described Stranges as "A federal marshal and chaplain who had top secret security clearance at the Pentagon", he never worked as a marshal or in any type of government or law enforcement, never worked at the Pentagon, and certainly never had "top security clearance". He claimed to be the Assistant Deputy Director of the California State Marshal Association, which does not exist. California has no state marshals. There are other problems with Stranges' credentials. His author's biography says that he received a bachelor's degree in theology plus Ph.Ds in both psychology and philosophy from Faith Theological Seminary in Florida. Faith Theological Seminary is a real accredited religious college, but does not offer Ph.Ds in either discipline. In his later years he began also claiming a Ph.D in Criminology from the National Institute of Criminology in Washington, D.C., but there is no such institution. There are several unaccredited universities with similar names overseas, but none of them offer Ph.Ds at all. Nevertheless, Stranges has written as "Dr. Frank E. Stranges" ever since. With so many problems right out of the gate, who would give his book any credence? *** The movie the day of the earth stood still in 1951 based on TRUE event of Valiant Thor mission to earth in 1940s of his brother Donn Thor. Long before they met Frank Stranges in 1959 in the Pentagon. The Pentagon and the Navy secret department had known and worked with both Thor's brothers since 1940 or earlier. It wasn't a BIG surprised to certain Navy secret project section had worked with them during WWII. The Venusians human looking angels are no strangers to the Naval Above top secret section department.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 5, 2020 15:39:43 GMT -5
Valiant Thor: Your Friendly Pentagon Alien skeptoid.com/episodes/4675Val and his companions were from Venus, and had landed on March 16, 1957, with a 3-year mission to invite the Earth to join the interstellar community, who had had their eyes on us ever since the atomic bomb blasts in World War II. Val was brought to meet President Eisenhower and Vice President Nixon, who put him up in an apartment at the Pentagon. He traveled and met with many government officials. Then, at the end of his mission, he dematerialized on March 16, 1960. Science fiction fans among will you immediately recognize this as the plot of the 1951 movie The Day the Earth Stood Still. But that's just the first of many red flags festooning this tale, perhaps the largest being that we now know Venus is far from being inhabitable by any life, and wouldn't really make its residents part of "the interstellar community" anyway. Another red flag is that although the TV show Ancient Aliens described Stranges as "A federal marshal and chaplain who had top secret security clearance at the Pentagon", he never worked as a marshal or in any type of government or law enforcement, never worked at the Pentagon, and certainly never had "top security clearance". He claimed to be the Assistant Deputy Director of the California State Marshal Association, which does not exist. California has no state marshals. There are other problems with Stranges' credentials. His author's biography says that he received a bachelor's degree in theology plus Ph.Ds in both psychology and philosophy from Faith Theological Seminary in Florida. Faith Theological Seminary is a real accredited religious college, but does not offer Ph.Ds in either discipline. In his later years he began also claiming a Ph.D in Criminology from the National Institute of Criminology in Washington, D.C., but there is no such institution. There are several unaccredited universities with similar names overseas, but none of them offer Ph.Ds at all. Nevertheless, Stranges has written as "Dr. Frank E. Stranges" ever since. With so many problems right out of the gate, who would give his book any credence? *** The movie the day of the earth stood still in 1951 based on TRUE event of Valiant Thor mission to earth in 1940s of his brother Donn Thor. Long before they met Frank Stranges in 1959 in the Pentagon. The Pentagon had known and worked with both Thor's brothers since 1940 or earlier. Tell us again why you are no longer a worker.
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Post by nathan on Jul 5, 2020 15:49:54 GMT -5
*** The movie the day of the earth stood still in 1951 based on TRUE event of Valiant Thor mission to earth in 1940s of his brother Donn Thor. Long before they met Frank Stranges in 1959 in the Pentagon. The Pentagon had known and worked with both Thor's brothers since 1940 or earlier. Tell us again why you are no longer a worker. *** haha sure, God has another important mission for me to be on... To inform, educate and warn people to prepare and get ready for Jesus coming for the believers NEW chapter... Reigning with Christ 1000 yrs on earth and the Universe.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 5, 2020 15:53:14 GMT -5
Tell us again why you are no longer a worker. *** haha sure, God has another important mission for me to be on... To inform, educate and warn people to prepare and get ready for Jesus coming for the believers NEW chapter... Reigning with Christ 1000 yrs on earth and the Universe. Yer right! That is as believable as all the other nonsense you spout. Have you ever thought of becoming a faucet?
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Post by Annan on Jul 5, 2020 15:58:12 GMT -5
Valiant Thor: Your Friendly Pentagon Alien skeptoid.com/episodes/4675Val and his companions were from Venus, and had landed on March 16, 1957, with a 3-year mission to invite the Earth to join the interstellar community, who had had their eyes on us ever since the atomic bomb blasts in World War II. Val was brought to meet President Eisenhower and Vice President Nixon, who put him up in an apartment at the Pentagon. He traveled and met with many government officials. Then, at the end of his mission, he dematerialized on March 16, 1960. Science fiction fans among will you immediately recognize this as the plot of the 1951 movie The Day the Earth Stood Still. But that's just the first of many red flags festooning this tale, perhaps the largest being that we now know Venus is far from being inhabitable by any life, and wouldn't really make its residents part of "the interstellar community" anyway. Another red flag is that although the TV show Ancient Aliens described Stranges as "A federal marshal and chaplain who had top secret security clearance at the Pentagon", he never worked as a marshal or in any type of government or law enforcement, never worked at the Pentagon, and certainly never had "top security clearance". He claimed to be the Assistant Deputy Director of the California State Marshal Association, which does not exist. California has no state marshals. There are other problems with Stranges' credentials. His author's biography says that he received a bachelor's degree in theology plus Ph.Ds in both psychology and philosophy from Faith Theological Seminary in Florida. Faith Theological Seminary is a real accredited religious college, but does not offer Ph.Ds in either discipline. In his later years he began also claiming a Ph.D in Criminology from the National Institute of Criminology in Washington, D.C., but there is no such institution. There are several unaccredited universities with similar names overseas, but none of them offer Ph.Ds at all. Nevertheless, Stranges has written as "Dr. Frank E. Stranges" ever since. With so many problems right out of the gate, who would give his book any credence? *** The movie the day of the earth stood still in 1951 based on TRUE event of Valiant Thor mission to earth in 1940s of his brother Donn Thor. Long before they met Frank Stranges in 1959 in the Pentagon. The Pentagon and the Navy secret department had known and worked with both Thor's brothers since 1940 or earlier. It wasn't a BIG surprised to certain Navy secret project section had worked with them during WWII. The Venusians human looking angels are no strangers to the Naval Above top secret section department. So you completely ignored the part about Stranges credentials.
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