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Post by nathan on May 25, 2020 9:42:28 GMT -5
It says he saw "a light", and bible scholars generally agree that Saul did not see Jesus, but had a vision of Jesus because of the order of the events and it other books it he describe his "visions and revelations of Jesus". When the brain has trauma, a strike on the head, loss of oxygen, electrical storm like in epilepsy, often you see stars or lights. Often these unexplained events were attributed to a god. Jesus said in John 17 about the glory he had with God the Father before the foundation of the world. In Matthew 17 Jesus showed Peter, James and John on the Mt. of transfiguration... His radiance like the brightness of the Sun. That what Saul Saw on the way to Damascus, the glory of the Christ/his REAL Spirit before He incarnated as a Man/God to SAVE us from the Second Death.
It was NOT a vision that Saul saw on the way to Damasus! just like it was NOT a vision that Peter, James, and John SAW on the Mt. Transfiguration. They saw the actual Jesus appeared in His glorious form bright light like the Sun= God the Christ.
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Post by Grant on May 25, 2020 9:47:35 GMT -5
Jesus said in John 17 about the glory he had with God the Father before the foundation of the world. In Matthew 17 Jesus showed Peter, James and John on the Mt. of transfiguration... His radiance like the brightness of the Sun. That what Saul Saw on the way to Damascus, the glory of the Christ/his REAL Spirit before He incarnated as a Man/God to SAVE us from the Second Death.
It was NOT a vision that Saul saw on the way to Damasus! just like it was NOT a vision that Peter, James, and John SAW on the Mt. Transfiguration. They saw the actual Jesus appeared in His glorious form bright light like the Sun= God the Christ.
Like you said Paul saw Jesus in his spirit form, not the actual Jesus in body form. Matthew 17:9 tells us what occurred at Mt Transfiguration was also a vision and did they not also see Moses and Elijah.
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Post by xna on May 25, 2020 9:59:54 GMT -5
Jesus said in John 17 about the glory he had with God the Father before the foundation of the world. In Matthew 17 Jesus showed Peter, James and John on the Mt. of transfiguration... His radiance like the brightness of the Sun. That what Saul Saw on the way to Damascus, the glory of the Christ/his REAL Spirit before He incarnated as a Man/God to SAVE us from the Second Death.
What is true is; "its in the story of the Christian mythology". It was NOT a vision that Saul saw on the way to Damasus! just like it was NOT a vision that Peter, James, and John SAW on the Mt. Transfiguration. They saw the actual Jesus appeared in His glorious form bright light like the Sun= God the Christ. The Catholics, and many other denomination say Saul did not see Jesus. This is from the USA Conference of Bishops on Act 9:8 [Acts 9:8] He could see nothing: a temporary blindness (Acts 9:18) symbolizing the religious blindness of Saul as persecutor (cf. Acts 26:18).
You should accept this now while you are living, because when you die, you won't have another chance. This could be your final warning.
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Post by nathan on May 25, 2020 12:03:25 GMT -5
Like you said Paul saw Jesus in his spirit form, not the actual Jesus in body form. Matthew 17:9 tells us what occurred at Mt Transfiguration was also a vision and did they not also see Moses and Elijah. ** Jesus, Peter, James and John saw some kinds of the physical bodies of Moses and Elijah because Peter wanted to built a temporary shelter for them to stay for awhile. It was not a vision! Jesus transformed into His glorious God form which he had before he created the Universe... Peter, James and John witnessed Christ's glorious form/Spirit... The same person that Saul saw also it was bright as the Sun. The resurrected Jesus has a human body with old wounds, he can eat foods, teleport anywhere at any time. This is the same kind of resurrection bodies the believers in Jesus are going to receive when Jesus returns as the king and Ruler in the Universe.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 25, 2020 13:24:01 GMT -5
Well, fair play to you for taking up the challenge. Here goes .... I’ve numbered them for you to make it easier to respond. Matt10 1 Genesis 2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 2 Numbers 22:28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times? 3 Genesis 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt 4 Deuteronomy 22;3 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord. 5 Deuteronomy 25:4 Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain. 6 Deuteronomy 25:5 If brothers are living together and one of them dies without a son, his widow must not marry outside the family. 7 Deuteronomy 25:11-12 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity. 8 Deuteronomy 22;20-21 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. 9 Psalm 137;9 Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. 10 Leviticus 26;29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters. 11 Leviticus 21;9 If a priest’s daughter defiles herself by becoming a prostitute, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire 12 Matthew 10:10 Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat 13 Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart 14 Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death 15 Matthew 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place 16 Matthew 27;2 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 17 Mark 16 17;18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover 18 Luke 24:5. And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead? 19 John 12;13 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain. And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? 20 John 11;44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go. 21 Matthew 28;10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. 22 Acts 1;4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. Acts 1:4 23 Matthew 27:5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. 24 Acts 1;18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. 25 Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay everyone for what he has done 1. literal 2. literal 3. literal 4. not the correct verse 5. both 6. literal, but you didn't put the whole verse out there 7. literal 8. literal, but you didn't put the whole verse out there 9. further study 10. further study 11. literal 12. both 13. both 14. literal 15. further study 16. not the correct verse 17. both 18. literal you have 2 verses here 4 and 5 19. not the correct verse 20. both 21. both 22. further study 23. literal 24. literal 25. both now i did not read the verses before or after the one you posted so if i did they may change how i understand each verse... Quick. The time for the word in season is ticking away.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 14:05:03 GMT -5
"Alien Christ" can be rewritten as "Hi Larcenist".
Also "Ethnic Liars".
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Post by nathan on May 25, 2020 14:20:55 GMT -5
"Alien Christ" can be rewritten as "Hi Larcenist". Also "Ethnic Liars". Jesus said I came down from heaven... What would that make Him? An alien, right. How about the Holy Spirit wasn't He came from the same place as Christ/Jesus also. Wouln't He consider an Alien on earth also? How about the human looking angels in the Old and New Test. Didn't they come from the same place as Christ in heaven.
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Post by shushy on May 25, 2020 18:03:43 GMT -5
"Alien Christ" can be rewritten as "Hi Larcenist". Also "Ethnic Liars". Jesus said I came down from heaven... What would that make Him? An alien, right. How about the Holy Spirit wasn't He came from the same place as Christ/Jesus also. Wouln't He consider an Alien on earth also? How about the human looking angels in the Old and New Test. Didn't they come from the same place as Christ in heaven.
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Post by shushy on May 25, 2020 18:15:57 GMT -5
Jesus said I came down from heaven... What would that make Him? An alien, right. How about the Holy Spirit wasn't He came from the same place as Christ/Jesus also. Wouln't He consider an Alien on earth also? How about the human looking angels in the Old and New Test. Didn't they come from the same place as Christ in heaven.
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Post by shushy on May 25, 2020 18:22:32 GMT -5
Nathan what are you talking about?
No one knows the location of heaven. In Venus would mean inside a planet.The planets are a part of the 2nd heaven. Where the prince of the power of the air (satan) resides until the judgement.
Heaven is a place of glory and power filled with the presence of the almighty. The 1st and 2nd heaven would be burnt up if they were anywhere close to heaven where he dwells.
Please keep your response short, i loose interest having to read long paragraphs.
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Post by shushy on May 25, 2020 18:23:24 GMT -5
Btw I loved Saigon
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Post by dmmichgood on May 25, 2020 20:37:29 GMT -5
So, shushy; -you were in the Viet Nam war?
Which side were you on?
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Post by nathan on May 25, 2020 20:59:21 GMT -5
Nathan what are you talking about? No one knows the location of heaven. In Venus would mean inside a planet.The planets are a part of the 2nd heaven. Where the prince of the power of the air (satan) resides until the judgement. Heaven is a place of glory and power filled with the presence of the almighty. The 1st and 2nd heaven would be burnt up if they were anywhere close to heaven where he dwells. Please keep your response short, i loose interest having to read long paragraphs. From the information which I have read the last 10 years.... God, Christ, the Holy Spirit and all of the angels whom they created live inside Venus planet is God's dwelling place heaven/Paradise/Head Quarter where The Godhead governs the trillions galaxies, with millions/billions species of intelligence beings they created to populate in the Universe.
Satan and 1/3 of the fallen angels rebelled against the Godhead and tried to take over his kingdom/our Solar system= 12 planets. A major War was fought in the heavens, two planets collided/destroyed= asteroid belt. Satan and the fallen angels lost the War and God send them to planet earth as their home and prison until the Final judgement day then they would be sentenced and cast in the Lake of fire.
6000 yrs ago, The Godhead created Adam, Eve and their children in the Garden of Eden/earth as immortal beings to RULE and REIGN with Christ in the Universe. Satan/Serpent deceived Eve into sin and they lost their immortality and became mortal beings. In Genesis 3:15 Christ had told Adam and Eve He would come down from heaven/Venus to RESTORE their immortality back so they could RULE and Reign with Him.
Jesus said to Nicodemus or all mortal beings, "Ye must be born again!" to become immortal beings like God had planned before the foundation of the world to RULE and REIGN with the Godhead throughout the planet earth and the Universe when Jesus returns as KING of kings and the LORD of lords.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 22:49:28 GMT -5
From the information which I have read the last 10 years.... God, Christ, the Holy Spirit and all of the angels whom they created live inside Venus planet is God's dwelling place heaven/Paradise/Head Quarter where The Godhead governs the trillions galaxies, with millions/billions species of intelligence beings they created to populate in the Universe.
Satan and 1/3 of the fallen angels rebelled against the Godhead and tried to take over his kingdom/our Solar system= 12 planets. A major War was fought in the heavens, two planets collided/destroyed= asteroid belt. Satan and the fallen angels lost the War and God send them to planet earth as their home and prison until the Final judgement day then they would be sentenced and cast in the Lake of fire.
6000 yrs ago, The Godhead created Adam, Eve and their children in the Garden of Eden/earth as immortal beings to RULE and REIGN with Christ in the Universe. Satan/Serpent deceived Eve into sin and they lost their immortality and became mortal beings. In Genesis 3:15 Christ had told Adam and Eve He would come down from heaven/Venus to RESTORE their immortality back so they could RULE and Reign with Him.
Jesus said to Nicodemus or all mortal beings, "Ye must be born again!" to become immortal beings like God had planned before the foundation of the world to RULE and REIGN with the Godhead throughout the planet earth and the Universe when Jesus returns as KING of kings and the LORD of lords.
I have some questions. 1. Isn't God kinda cramped inside that little, tiny Venus, him being so big and all? 2. So was it exactly 1/3 of the angels that rebelled, as in 0.333333333333333? And maybe this isn't the correct time and place, but exactly how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Asking for a pastor. 3. Ummm, about the number of planets thing, are you sure? Here's a link that tells you how many planets there are in the solar system: How Many Planets are in Our Solar System?• Mathy stuff: 12 - 2 = 10 4. Are you sure about your timeline re: Satan's war? I'm pretty sure Satan wasn't cast out of Heaven until Jesus died on the cross. Only the blood from that sacrifice had the power to drive Satan out of Heaven. Details provided by John the Revelator. 5. Can you tell us exactly how you arrived at the 6000 number -- God creating Adam et al. 6000 years ago? 6. Are you sure that God created Adam, Eve and their kids? Adam and Eve had sex after partaking of the fruit of knowledge of good and naughty bits. I know this, because Genesis 4:1 was one of my favorite verses when I was 13, even though it lacked a lot of desired, nay needed, detail. 7. In Genesis 3:15, it says this: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." Not seeing anything about restoring no immorality...err, immortality ... and no ruling or reigning. 8. So who did Jesus speak to, Nicodemus or all mortal beings? 9. If we're ruling the earth and the universe, do we ever get to visit? And are we ruling those other intelligent beings? How does that happen? Are we doing that remotely?
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Post by nathan on May 25, 2020 23:56:19 GMT -5
From the information which I have read the last 10 years.... God, Christ, the Holy Spirit and all of the angels whom they created live inside Venus planet is God's dwelling place heaven/Paradise/Head Quarter where The Godhead governs the trillions galaxies, with millions/billions species of intelligence beings they created to populate in the Universe.
Satan and 1/3 of the fallen angels rebelled against the Godhead and tried to take over his kingdom/our Solar system= 12 planets. A major War was fought in the heavens, two planets collided/destroyed= asteroid belt. Satan and the fallen angels lost the War and God send them to planet earth as their home and prison until the Final judgement day then they would be sentenced and cast in the Lake of fire.
6000 yrs ago, The Godhead created Adam, Eve and their children in the Garden of Eden/earth as immortal beings to RULE and REIGN with Christ in the Universe. Satan/Serpent deceived Eve into sin and they lost their immortality and became mortal beings. In Genesis 3:15 Christ had told Adam and Eve He would come down from heaven/Venus to RESTORE their immortality back so they could RULE and Reign with Him.
Jesus said to Nicodemus or all mortal beings, "Ye must be born again!" to become immortal beings like God had planned before the foundation of the world to RULE and REIGN with the Godhead throughout the planet earth and the Universe when Jesus returns as KING of kings and the LORD of lords.
I have some questions. 1. Isn't God kinda cramped inside that little, tiny Venus, him being so big and all? ~~ Godhead= God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit presence fills the Universe. However, Jesus said in John 14 in my Father's house/Venus planet there are MANY mansions. God has a place where He calls home that He, Christ and Holy Spirit run their daily operation in the Universe.
2. So was it exactly 1/3 of the angels that rebelled, as in 0.333333333333333? And maybe this isn't the correct time and place, but exactly how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Asking for a pastor. ~~ In The book of Revelation (Rev. 5) it mentioned 10,000 x 10,000 of Holy angels surround the throne of God.... Rev. chapter 12 tells of 1/3 of the angels, include Satan rebelled against God.
3. Ummm, about the number of planets thing, are you sure? Here's a link that tells you how many planets there are in the solar system: How Many Planets are in Our Solar System?• Mathy stuff: 12 - 2 = 10 ~~ Yes, there are 10 planets now! But it was 12 planets in our Solar planet to begin with... Two of the planets collided/War in heaven and it became asteroid belt. Google it.
God's # 12 means complete..... 12 months in a year; 12 Zodiac; 12 apostles; 12 tribes of Israel... 12 planets in our solar system.
4. Are you sure about your timeline re: Satan's war? I'm pretty sure Satan wasn't cast out of Heaven until Jesus died on the cross. Only the blood from that sacrifice had the power to drive Satan out of Heaven. Details provided by John the Revelator. ~~ The War in heaven between God Vs. Satan started long, long time before God created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden 6000 years ago.
5. Can you tell us exactly how you arrived at the 6000 number -- God creating Adam et al. 6000 years ago? ~~ Adam to Abraham is 2000 years... Abraham to Jesus Christ is another 2000 years.... Jesus to us today is another 2000= 6000 years.
6. Are you sure that God created Adam, Eve and their kids? Adam and Eve had sex after partaking of the fruit of knowledge of good and naughty bits. I know this, because Genesis 4:1 was one of my favorite verses when I was 13, even though it lacked a lot of desired, nay needed, detail. ~~ God created Adam, and Lilth, she was his first wife. God told them to multiply= children to fill the earth.... Lilth left Adam to become one of many wives of Satan. So, God created Eve out of one Adam's rib/DNA to be his wife.
7. In Genesis 3:15, it says this: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." Not seeing anything about restoring no immorality...err, immortality ... and no ruling or reigning. ~~ Reigning and Ruling that is foretold in the book of Revelation...
8. So who did Jesus speak to, Nicodemus or all mortal beings? ~~ NOT only to Nicodemus but to ALL mortal human beings, "YE must be BORN again!" to enter the kingdom of God. This mortal human flesh can't live forever! Only the believers resurrection bodies can live forever.
9. If we're ruling the earth and the universe, do we ever get to visit? And are we ruling those other intelligent beings? How does that happen? Are we doing that remotely? ~~ That is why Christ/Jesus/God wants to RESTORE our mortal flesh to immortality beings, which Adam and Eve had BEFORE the FALL. Satan had deceived many intelligence beings/races in the Universe as his followers NOT just the mortal beings on earth. There are many intelligence races throughout the trillions galaxies had NOT heard or KNOWN about the Yahweh God.
When Jesus returns He will give the Old and New Testament believers the New Resurrection bodies so, we can teleport to trillions galaxies to convert and help intelligence beings through out the Universe to follow Jesus Christ as their God.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 26, 2020 0:08:06 GMT -5
Nathan what are you talking about? No one knows the location of heaven. In Venus would mean inside a planet.The planets are a part of the 2nd heaven. Where the prince of the power of the air (satan) resides until the judgement. Heaven is a place of glory and power filled with the presence of the almighty. The 1st and 2nd heaven would be burnt up if they were anywhere close to heaven where he dwells. Please keep your response short, i loose interest having to read long paragraphs. From the information which I have read the last 10 years.... God, Christ, the Holy Spirit and all of the angels whom they created live inside Venus planet is God's dwelling place heaven/Paradise/Head Quarter where The Godhead governs the trillions galaxies, with millions/billions species of intelligence beings they created to populate in the Universe.
Satan and 1/3 of the fallen angels rebelled against the Godhead and tried to take over his kingdom/our Solar system= 12 planets. A major War was fought in the heavens, two planets collided/destroyed= asteroid belt. Satan and the fallen angels lost the War and God send them to planet earth as their home and prison until the Final judgement day then they would be sentenced and cast in the Lake of fire.
6000 yrs ago, The Godhead created Adam, Eve and their children in the Garden of Eden/earth as immortal beings to RULE and REIGN with Christ in the Universe. Satan/Serpent deceived Eve into sin and they lost their immortality and became mortal beings. In Genesis 3:15 Christ had told Adam and Eve He would come down from heaven/Venus to RESTORE their immortality back so they could RULE and Reign with Him.
Jesus said to Nicodemus or all mortal beings, "Ye must be born again!" to become immortal beings like God had planned before the foundation of the world to RULE and REIGN with the Godhead throughout the planet earth and the Universe when Jesus returns as KING of kings and the LORD of lords.
Just because you have read it for ten years it does not make it true. It is just part of your delusion.
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Post by nathan on May 26, 2020 0:10:58 GMT -5
From the information which I have read the last 10 years.... God, Christ, the Holy Spirit and all of the angels whom they created live inside Venus planet is God's dwelling place heaven/Paradise/Head Quarter where The Godhead governs the trillions galaxies, with millions/billions species of intelligence beings they created to populate in the Universe.
Satan and 1/3 of the fallen angels rebelled against the Godhead and tried to take over his kingdom/our Solar system= 12 planets. A major War was fought in the heavens, two planets collided/destroyed= asteroid belt. Satan and the fallen angels lost the War and God send them to planet earth as their home and prison until the Final judgement day then they would be sentenced and cast in the Lake of fire.
6000 yrs ago, The Godhead created Adam, Eve and their children in the Garden of Eden/earth as immortal beings to RULE and REIGN with Christ in the Universe. Satan/Serpent deceived Eve into sin and they lost their immortality and became mortal beings. In Genesis 3:15 Christ had told Adam and Eve He would come down from heaven/Venus to RESTORE their immortality back so they could RULE and Reign with Him.
Jesus said to Nicodemus or all mortal beings, "Ye must be born again!" to become immortal beings like God had planned before the foundation of the world to RULE and REIGN with the Godhead throughout the planet earth and the Universe when Jesus returns as KING of kings and the LORD of lords.
Just because you have read it for ten years it does not make it true. It is just part of your delusion. You are my delusion. Get thee behind me, Satan.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 26, 2020 0:12:10 GMT -5
Just because you have read it for ten years it does not make it true. It is just part of your delusion. You are my delusion. Get thee behind me, Satan.That's not a very good hex.
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Post by nathan on May 26, 2020 1:22:11 GMT -5
You are my delusion. Get thee behind me, Satan. That's not a very good hex. It's NOT a hex but a command to get lost. Time to put you in your cage, that is to ignore you again.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 26, 2020 1:32:27 GMT -5
That's not a very good hex. It's NOT a hex but a command to get lost. Time to put you in your cage, that is to ignore you again.Unfortunately for you, your bullying ways will not work with me. Every time you say something on here that is untrue you will be held to account for it. That is no delusion.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 26, 2020 1:36:56 GMT -5
It's NOT a hex but a command to get lost. Time to put you in your cage, that is to ignore you again. Unfortunately for you, your bullying ways will not work with me. Every time you say something on here that is untrue you will be held to account for it. That is no delusion. He want you to find a place on earth further away from where he is. Is there such a place?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 1:49:19 GMT -5
Unfortunately for you, your bullying ways will not work with me. Every time you say something on here that is untrue you will be held to account for it. That is no delusion. He want you to find a place on earth further away from where he is. Is there such a place? here is a few curly might like: www.insider.com/worlds-most-isolated-remote-places-2017-10
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 26, 2020 2:05:53 GMT -5
Thanks, there's some interesting spots there. I have been to Coober Pedy already and Cape York. Coober Pedy is hot, dry and a rip off. Not worth the effort. Although there is lots to see on the way. Cape York is fascinating. I'd like to go back on a motorbike and go further up and also across, heading west but would need a mate. There's lots to kill you there and wits must be sharp the whole time.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 4:58:02 GMT -5
Well, fair play to you for taking up the challenge. Here goes .... I’ve numbered them for you to make it easier to respond. Matt10 1 Genesis 2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 2 Numbers 22:28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times? 3 Genesis 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt 4 Deuteronomy 22;3 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord. 5 Deuteronomy 25:4 Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain. 6 Deuteronomy 25:5 If brothers are living together and one of them dies without a son, his widow must not marry outside the family. 7 Deuteronomy 25:11-12 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity. 8 Deuteronomy 22;20-21 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. 9 Psalm 137;9 Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. 10 Leviticus 26;29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters. 11 Leviticus 21;9 If a priest’s daughter defiles herself by becoming a prostitute, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire 12 Matthew 10:10 Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat 13 Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart 14 Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death 15 Matthew 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place 16 Matthew 27;2 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 17 Mark 16 17;18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover 18 Luke 24:5. And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead? 19 John 12;13 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain. And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? 20 John 11;44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go. 21 Matthew 28;10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. 22 Acts 1;4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. Acts 1:4 23 Matthew 27:5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. 24 Acts 1;18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. 25 Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay everyone for what he has done 1. literal 2. literal 3. literal 4. not the correct verse 5. both 6. literal, but you didn't put the whole verse out there 7. literal 8. literal, but you didn't put the whole verse out there 9. further study 10. further study 11. literal 12. both 13. both 14. literal 15. further study 16. not the correct verse 17. both 18. literal you have 2 verses here 4 and 5 19. not the correct verse 20. both 21. both 22. further study 23. literal 24. literal 25. both now i did not read the verses before or after the one you posted so if i did they may change how i understand each verse... I’m sure I could draw various conclusions from this and may do so in the future but at this time I’m going to award you a point on the basis that every time I have pressed believers on this previously they have ducked the challenge. At least you have had a go. Matt10
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Post by shushy on May 26, 2020 5:54:32 GMT -5
So, shushy; -you were in the Viet Nam war?
Which side were you on?
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Post by shushy on May 26, 2020 5:55:19 GMT -5
Didn't fight nor take sides.
I was in Saigon last yr.
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Post by shushy on May 26, 2020 5:57:10 GMT -5
Nathan what are you talking about? No one knows the location of heaven. In Venus would mean inside a planet.The planets are a part of the 2nd heaven. Where the prince of the power of the air (satan) resides until the judgement. Heaven is a place of glory and power filled with the presence of the almighty. The 1st and 2nd heaven would be burnt up if they were anywhere close to heaven where he dwells. Please keep your response short, i loose interest having to read long paragraphs. From the information which I have read the last 10 years.... God, Christ, the Holy Spirit and all of the angels whom they created live inside Venus planet is God's dwelling place heaven/Paradise/Head Quarter where The Godhead governs the trillions galaxies, with millions/billions species of intelligence beings they created to populate in the Universe.
Satan and 1/3 of the fallen angels rebelled against the Godhead and tried to take over his kingdom/our Solar system= 12 planets. A major War was fought in the heavens, two planets collided/destroyed= asteroid belt. Satan and the fallen angels lost the War and God send them to planet earth as their home and prison until the Final judgement day then they would be sentenced and cast in the Lake of fire.
6000 yrs ago, The Godhead created Adam, Eve and their children in the Garden of Eden/earth as immortal beings to RULE and REIGN with Christ in the Universe. Satan/Serpent deceived Eve into sin and they lost their immortality and became mortal beings. In Genesis 3:15 Christ had told Adam and Eve He would come down from heaven/Venus to RESTORE their immortality back so they could RULE and Reign with Him.
Jesus said to Nicodemus or all mortal beings, "Ye must be born again!" to become immortal beings like God had planned before the foundation of the world to RULE and REIGN with the Godhead throughout the planet earth and the Universe when Jesus returns as KING of kings and the LORD of lords.
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Post by shushy on May 26, 2020 5:58:25 GMT -5
Nate I hate to tell you this but sorry I don't have a witness to what you are saying about venus.
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