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Post by snow on Apr 12, 2020 14:23:44 GMT -5
Yeah I have 3 kids (grown) but not able to work because of addiction and HIV and other things . They require help . I can make a dollar stretch a long way . I have a good pension thankfully . My ex and I will not allow them to go to food bank . There are souls out there that need it more . We pull together as a family ! Every so often they send money back . We just put it in a account that he and I have . Because they will be back . We are happy we can help . Man the USA 🇺🇸 Is taking a blow .Wishing all have better days in the USA 🇺🇸 Yes, watching the struggle in the states at the moment makes me so glad I live in Canada. This isn't going to end soon and it's going to get worse before it gets better. Underestimating the seriousness of this virus is going to make it even harder to contain. If we can't get it under some control right now it will be a whole lot worse for us all. If we start seeing the food chain break down because of the workers getting sick and dying worrying about rent and mortgages will be the least of our worries. They have been discussing how to keep our farmers safe here in Canada. Advising who should be able to enter their properties, how to deal with sickness while working on the farms etc. I saw that a food supply chain in South Dakota got shut down due to the rapid spread of the virus in it's employees. If that continues to happen it will make the length of time getting to stores longer, and also food shortages. |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 12, 2020 14:30:00 GMT -5
He misled the USA 🇺🇸 souls . His name with go down as the virus 🦠 helper . He had known a long time , but he chose not to .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 12, 2020 14:36:03 GMT -5
Trump will not listen to anyone . He contradicts himself about every 4 minutes . Did he fire Fauci yet ? He knew this was coming and sat on it .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 12, 2020 14:47:01 GMT -5
Don’t follow Trump for help or guidance . Or Pence .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 12, 2020 15:10:01 GMT -5
We must not lull ourselves into a false sense of security ! This could be a long time . So cannot take chances .
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Post by SharonArnold on Apr 12, 2020 15:12:36 GMT -5
Yeah I have 3 kids (grown) but not able to work because of addiction and HIV and other things . They require help . I can make a dollar stretch a long way . I have a good pension thankfully . My ex and I will not allow them to go to food bank . There are souls out there that need it more . We pull together as a family ! Every so often they send money back . We just put it in a account that he and I have . Because they will be back . We are happy we can help . Man the USA 🇺🇸 Is taking a blow .Wishing all have better days in the USA 🇺🇸 Yes, watching the struggle in the states at the moment makes me so glad I live in Canada. This isn't going to end soon and it's going to get worse before it gets better. Underestimating the seriousness of this virus is going to make it even harder to contain. If we can't get it under some control right now it will be a whole lot worse for us all. If we start seeing the food chain break down because of the workers getting sick and dying worrying about rent and mortgages will be the least of our worries. They have been discussing how to keep our farmers safe here in Canada. Advising who should be able to enter their properties, how to deal with sickness while working on the farms etc. I saw that a food supply chain in South Dakota got shut down due to the rapid spread of the virus in it's employees. If that continues to happen it will make the length of time getting to stores longer, and also food shortages. I'm not following "news" all that closely these days, because I think it is mostly click-bait and spin. (And I value my personal semblance of sanity.) I'm not sure about the "struggle" in the US right now. Sure, there are densely populated areas that are hard-hit, but it does not seem like the health-care facilities are being overwhelmed. I do not see reports of demographic groups not even being triaged, like in Italy. I do not see reports of overwhelmed crematoriums and people being barricaded in homes, like China. I see areas like Washington State and California seeming to have unexpectedly good results. (What worries me most on an on-going basis are the reports of the immense field hospitals presently being built in provinces of China.) I see reports of "chaos" in the US. I question this, and see the US constitution working. President Trump has left governance to the States (as in, the government closest to the people) and has not reached for any over-arching authority, unlike many prognostications over his authoritarian/dictatorial ambitions. I see an immense amount of ingenuity and creativity coming out of the US. I do believe that "chaos" results in innovation, and in solutions. In fact, I am betting on this. I have always been really proud to be Canadian. But, for the first time in my life, I do think I would rather be an American. I actually have thoughts of driving to the border and claiming refugee status, because what I see coming in Canada is not pretty. I do know that any "salvation" we might have is in the extremely low population densities, and in the adults in the Provincial governments who are taking charge. As far as the food supply chain, I am kind of close to this. I see the calls to shut down the foreign worker programs. In the Okanagan, here, 19 out of 75 foreign workers at a local nursery have been diagnosed with COVID-19. We do not hire any foreign workers, but our neighbors all do. They tell us, year after year, that they do not need to supervise any foreign workers very closely, but need to constantly supervise the few Canadians that they do hire. (By law, they have to advertise for Canadians, before being able to hire foreigners.) I get that there are a number of Canadians out of work, who might be interested in orchard work. (It's hard.) If anyone was interested, I would like to see Canadians given the opportunity, and also granted some type of tax free status on their earnings, regardless of their other sources of income. But, on the other side, once foreign workers have arrived in Canada, and have undergone their 14 day mandatory quarantine, I see them as safer (because they rarely leave the orchards where they are employed - they are tired) rather than a local workforce that comes and goes with a broad base of contacts within the community. |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 12, 2020 15:18:42 GMT -5
My bestie lives in Texas and they hire illegal’s . They work very hard . A lot don’t commit crime’s because they have no wish to go back to their homelands . Quick as well . They just want to house and provide for their family .
Mass burials in NY . Absolutely some states are good . I to wonder about validity from media .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 15:33:10 GMT -5
Are you not being helped by banks and such in the 🇺🇸 ? Canada’s big six banks will allow mortgage payment deferrals for up to six months as part of extraordinary measures to help customers struggling with the financial impacts of the novel coronavirus pandemic. In a tweet on Wednesday morning, Neil Parmenter, president of the Canadian Bankers Association, said the measures are “effective immediately.” RBC, TD, BMO, Scotiabank, CIBC and National Bank will also offer “opportunity for relief” on other credit products. Sad 😞to hear about your circumstances . I hope you get relief from your government . You have enough trauma as it is .
No help from banks yet, my bank isn't even open.. I have no debt, so don't need any relief in that respect. They are suppose to provide loans, but taking on debt to solve a problem government has created isn't a viable solution for me either. Its kind of like someone taking a sledge hammer to your car and then offering you a low interest loan to get all the dents fixed. The government is doing everything they can to put me out of business, while simultaneously offering loans to prolong the agony. Borrowing money so you can afford to stay closed is a poor business decision.
"I’m from the federal government and I’m here to help you” is what Ronald Reagan called, “The nine most terrifying words in the English language”
Good news though, yesterday I found some Angel Soft toilet paper at a Dollar General store. Miracles do happen... I remember as a kid how chocolate bunnies and jelly beans were what we looked forward to getting on Easter, now its toilet paper! My how times have changed.
well i don't think that putting anyone out of business is the goal of the gov't at this point in the virus rage its more of a rock and a hard place.... |
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Post by fixit on Apr 12, 2020 17:25:02 GMT -5
It's actually the young people I worry about. I doubt many would be in any kind of position to help parents out. Initially I was hoping this would be the asset crash that so many need even to buy a basic house or apartment here. Instead we are facing quantitative easing so I'm not sure how the asset prices will fare. It seems it has been the young whose jobs have been hit hardest as they make up a high proportion of hospitality type jobs. Baby boomers are the largest voting block so policies tend to favour them here in New Zealand and probably all over the western world. Homeownership rates for young families need to improve. Quantitative easing and artificially low interest rates are part of the problem, along with over-regulation and inefficiency in local government. A recession would normally result in a lot that stuff being realigned and fixed, but I'm not sure that it will - if governments and central banks continue messing with the money supply. |
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Post by snow on Apr 12, 2020 18:46:16 GMT -5
Yes, watching the struggle in the states at the moment makes me so glad I live in Canada. This isn't going to end soon and it's going to get worse before it gets better. Underestimating the seriousness of this virus is going to make it even harder to contain. If we can't get it under some control right now it will be a whole lot worse for us all. If we start seeing the food chain break down because of the workers getting sick and dying worrying about rent and mortgages will be the least of our worries. They have been discussing how to keep our farmers safe here in Canada. Advising who should be able to enter their properties, how to deal with sickness while working on the farms etc. I saw that a food supply chain in South Dakota got shut down due to the rapid spread of the virus in it's employees. If that continues to happen it will make the length of time getting to stores longer, and also food shortages. I'm not following "news" all that closely these days, because I think it is mostly click-bait and spin. (And I value my personal semblance of sanity.) I'm not sure about the "struggle" in the US right now. Sure, there are densely populated areas that are hard-hit, but it does not seem like the health-care facilities are being overwhelmed. I do not see reports of demographic groups not even being triaged, like in Italy. I do not see reports of overwhelmed crematoriums and people being barricaded in homes, like China. I see areas like Washington State and California seeming to have unexpectedly good results. (What worries me most on an on-going basis are the reports of the immense field hospitals presently being built in provinces of China.) I see reports of "chaos" in the US. I question this, and see the US constitution working. President Trump has left governance to the States (as in, the government closest to the people) and has not reached for any over-arching authority, unlike many prognostications over his authoritarian/dictatorial ambitions. I see an immense amount of ingenuity and creativity coming out of the US. I do believe that "chaos" results in innovation, and in solutions. In fact, I am betting on this. I have always been really proud to be Canadian. But, for the first time in my life, I do think I would rather be an American. I actually have thoughts of driving to the border and claiming refugee status, because what I see coming in Canada is not pretty. I do know that any "salvation" we might have is in the extremely low population densities, and in the adults in the Provincial governments who are taking charge. As far as the food supply chain, I am kind of close to this. I see the calls to shut down the foreign worker programs. In the Okanagan, here, 19 out of 75 foreign workers at a local nursery have been diagnosed with COVID-19. We do not hire any foreign workers, but our neighbors all do. They tell us, year after year, that they do not need to supervise any foreign workers very closely, but need to constantly supervise the few Canadians that they do hire. (By law, they have to advertise for Canadians, before being able to hire foreigners.) I get that there are a number of Canadians out of work, who might be interested in orchard work. (It's hard.) If anyone was interested, I would like to see Canadians given the opportunity, and also granted some type of tax free status on their earnings, regardless of their other sources of income. But, on the other side, once foreign workers have arrived in Canada, and have undergone their 14 day mandatory quarantine, I see them as safer (because they rarely leave the orchards where they are employed - they are tired) rather than a local workforce that comes and goes with a broad base of contacts within the community. I think the only way the US is going to avoid a lot of deaths is if the individual states and the medical personnel take over and ignore the Trump administration. I agree that there are smart and creative people in the states and they are their only hope because guidance from the top is non existent. I know you are a big Trump fan, which I have never understood. I don't understand how you would want to be in the states and think that being there would be better. |
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Post by snow on Apr 12, 2020 18:49:09 GMT -5
No help from banks yet, my bank isn't even open.. I have no debt, so don't need any relief in that respect. They are suppose to provide loans, but taking on debt to solve a problem government has created isn't a viable solution for me either. Its kind of like someone taking a sledge hammer to your car and then offering you a low interest loan to get all the dents fixed. The government is doing everything they can to put me out of business, while simultaneously offering loans to prolong the agony. Borrowing money so you can afford to stay closed is a poor business decision.
"I’m from the federal government and I’m here to help you” is what Ronald Reagan called, “The nine most terrifying words in the English language” Good news though, yesterday I found some Angel Soft toilet paper at a Dollar General store. Miracles do happen... I remember as a kid how chocolate bunnies and jelly beans were what we looked forward to getting on Easter, now its toilet paper! My how times have changed.
well i don't think that putting anyone out of business is the goal of the gov't at this point in the virus rage its more of a rock and a hard place.... I agree. To be blaming the government instead of the dire threat of this virus doesn't make sense. No one wants to be in lock down and I'm pretty sure that Trump wishes it was otherwise because he's pretty concerned about his economy. But if people don't have the sense to do what they are supposed to do to flatten the curve then government has to step in and make them do it. I don't understand why people do not understand the reason for this and the seriousness of not doing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 18:51:39 GMT -5
well i don't think that putting anyone out of business is the goal of the gov't at this point in the virus rage its more of a rock and a hard place.... I agree. To be blaming the government instead of the dire threat of this virus doesn't make sense. No one wants to be in lock down and I'm pretty sure that Trump wishes it was otherwise because he's pretty concerned about his economy. But if people don't have the sense to do what they are supposed to do to flatten the curve then government has to step in and make them do it. I don't understand why people do not understand the reason for this and the seriousness of not doing it. people tend to think that it may happen to you but not to me syndrome...this is a very real virus though and it will go everywhere and through anyone.... |
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Post by SharonArnold on Apr 12, 2020 19:24:03 GMT -5
I think the only way the US is going to avoid a lot of deaths is if the individual states and the medical personnel take over and ignore the Trump administration. I agree that there are smart and creative people in the states and they are their only hope because guidance from the top is non existent. I know you are a big Trump fan, which I have never understood. I don't understand how you would want to be in the states and think that being there would be better. I wouldn't characterize myself as a Trump "fan". On the other hand, I am also definitely not someone who is incapacitated from TDS. In looking at the future of our country, and of civilization itself, I would hope that you are someone who is open to a little cognitive dissonance, and cognizant that at least 50% of the world does not see things the way you do. And hopefully, there would be enough room in your mind to explore why they do not. On a very personal level, should I contract COVID-19, at the moment I would want to be treated with the Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin(alternatively Doxycycline)/Zinc protocol. If I was in particularly dire straits, I would also want to be treated with intravenous Vitamin C. In the US, I would be confident of receiving this treatment, if I requested it. In Canada, not so much. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 12, 2020 19:24:07 GMT -5
It's actually the young people I worry about. I doubt many would be in any kind of position to help parents out. Initially I was hoping this would be the asset crash that so many need even to buy a basic house or apartment here. Instead we are facing quantitative easing so I'm not sure how the asset prices will fare. It seems it has been the young whose jobs have been hit hardest as they make up a high proportion of hospitality type jobs. Baby boomers are the largest voting block so policies tend to favour them here in New Zealand and probably all over the western world. Homeownership rates for young families need to improve. Quantitative easing and artificially low interest rates are part of the problem, along with over-regulation and inefficiency in local government. A recession would normally result in a lot that stuff being realigned and fixed, but I'm not sure that it will - if governments and central banks continue messing with the money supply. What regulations at local govt level would you like to see removed? What inefficiencies are you talking about? |
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Post by snow on Apr 12, 2020 19:31:56 GMT -5
I think the only way the US is going to avoid a lot of deaths is if the individual states and the medical personnel take over and ignore the Trump administration. I agree that there are smart and creative people in the states and they are their only hope because guidance from the top is non existent. I know you are a big Trump fan, which I have never understood. I don't understand how you would want to be in the states and think that being there would be better. I wouldn't characterize myself as a Trump "fan". On the other hand, I am also definitely not someone who is incapacitated from TDS. In looking at the future of our country, and of civilization itself, I would hope that you are someone who is open to a little cognitive dissonance, and cognizant that at least 50% of the world does not see things the way you do. And hopefully, there would be enough room in your mind to explore why they do not. On a very personal level, should I contract COVID-19, at the moment I would want to be treated with the Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin(alternatively Doxycycline)/Zinc protocol. If I was in particularly dire straits, I would also want to be treated with intravenous Vitamin C. In the US, I would be confident of receiving this treatment, if I requested it. In Canada, not so much. There have always been people with a different point of view. Look at all the religions that say they are right. Doesn't mean I have to believe what they do and a different pov doesn't make them right. The reason I have no use for Trump is because he has no clue and thinks he does and by doing that he spreads misinformation. At a time like this there is no room for that. I will never have an open mind that allows me to think a man like Trump is a good thing. I have an open mind about most things, but Trump is a danger and that's it. If you think the States is a better place to be, then by all means declare refugee status. But I think you would be making a huge mistake. Which is your right. |
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Post by SharonArnold on Apr 12, 2020 19:38:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't characterize myself as a Trump "fan". On the other hand, I am also definitely not someone who is incapacitated from TDS. In looking at the future of our country, and of civilization itself, I would hope that you are someone who is open to a little cognitive dissonance, and cognizant that at least 50% of the world does not see things the way you do. And hopefully, there would be enough room in your mind to explore why they do not. On a very personal level, should I contract COVID-19, at the moment I would want to be treated with the Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin(alternatively Doxycycline)/Zinc protocol. If I was in particularly dire straits, I would also want to be treated with intravenous Vitamin C. In the US, I would be confident of receiving this treatment, if I requested it. In Canada, not so much. There have always been people with a different point of view. Look at all the religions that say they are right. Doesn't mean I have to believe what they do and a different pov doesn't make them right. The reason I have no use for Trump is because he has no clue and thinks he does and by doing that he spreads misinformation. At a time like this there is no room for that. I will never have an open mind that allows me to think a man like Trump is a good thing. I have an open mind about most things, but Trump is a danger and that's it. If you think the States is a better place to be, then by all means declare refugee status. But I think you would be making a huge mistake. Which is your right. I rest my case. No one says you have to believe what others believe. But being able to understand their POV (or even acknowledge their right to it) is a huge advantage in life. |
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Post by fixit on Apr 12, 2020 19:46:43 GMT -5
Purely from a numbers perspective, we can look at any number of illnesses that have resulted in vastly more deaths than COVID-19 has dealt us so far. Yet, we never shut down the economy. We never said, “don’t go out.” And we never threatened to imprison or fine U.S. citizens for hanging out together. Shutting down an entire economy just seems like a over-reaction to me, and if this thing persist for another month or two, the financial repercussions are going to be horrendous. Yes, the economic repercussions are huge. The alternative is not pretty though. Thousands of people gasping for breath with no medical help. The moral implications are huge. How much value do we put on human life? |
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Post by snow on Apr 12, 2020 19:55:32 GMT -5
There have always been people with a different point of view. Look at all the religions that say they are right. Doesn't mean I have to believe what they do and a different pov doesn't make them right. The reason I have no use for Trump is because he has no clue and thinks he does and by doing that he spreads misinformation. At a time like this there is no room for that. I will never have an open mind that allows me to think a man like Trump is a good thing. I have an open mind about most things, but Trump is a danger and that's it. If you think the States is a better place to be, then by all means declare refugee status. But I think you would be making a huge mistake. Which is your right. I rest my case. No one says you have to believe what others believe. But being able to understand their POV (or even acknowledge their right to it) is a huge advantage in life. Which I just did. You have the right to what you believe and do what you want with what that belief means to you. So not sure why you felt it was a good thing to say 'I rest my case'. Exactly what 'case' were you resting? I have tried to understand that pov from the beginning and there is no way to do that for me. I always try to understand even if I can't agree. But this support of Trump is beyond understanding for me. |
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Post by fixit on Apr 12, 2020 19:57:16 GMT -5
I think the only way the US is going to avoid a lot of deaths is if the individual states and the medical personnel take over and ignore the Trump administration. I agree that there are smart and creative people in the states and they are their only hope because guidance from the top is non existent. I know you are a big Trump fan, which I have never understood. I don't understand how you would want to be in the states and think that being there would be better. US military spending allocation is $934 billion but COVID-19 is the biggest threat to American lives in a long time. Trump did some good things and I gave him the benefit of the doubt until this. I think history will judge him to be an idiot in his COVID-19 response. |
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Post by snow on Apr 12, 2020 20:01:29 GMT -5
I think the only way the US is going to avoid a lot of deaths is if the individual states and the medical personnel take over and ignore the Trump administration. I agree that there are smart and creative people in the states and they are their only hope because guidance from the top is non existent. I know you are a big Trump fan, which I have never understood. I don't understand how you would want to be in the states and think that being there would be better. US military spending allocation is $934 billion but COVID-19 is the biggest threat to American lives in a long time. Trump did some good things and I gave him the benefit of the doubt until this. I think history will judge him to be an idiot in his COVID-19 response. What makes me sad about all of this, is that I really don't think he has a clue that he's doing so badly and people are believing what he says. He's just being himself. |
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Post by SharonArnold on Apr 12, 2020 20:11:40 GMT -5
I have tried to understand that pov from the beginning and there is no way to do that for me. I always try to understand even if I can't agree. But this support of Trump is beyond understanding for me. I would posit that your inability to understand "that" (alternate) POV is on you and not on the POV itself. |
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Post by xna on Apr 12, 2020 20:15:09 GMT -5
On a very personal level, should I contract COVID-19, at the moment I would want to be treated with the Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin(alternatively Doxycycline)/Zinc protocol. If I was in particularly dire straits, I would also want to be treated with intravenous Vitamin C. In the US, I would be confident of receiving this treatment, if I requested it. In Canada, not so much. In the US some "preppers" buy these same drug from a vet supply house or pet fish store without a prescription. Don't know if that's how it works Canada. Don't know if they are as pure or as safe. @wally may know how it works. |
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Post by snow on Apr 12, 2020 20:18:16 GMT -5
I have tried to understand that pov from the beginning and there is no way to do that for me. I always try to understand even if I can't agree. But this support of Trump is beyond understanding for me. I would posit that your inability to understand "that" (alternate) POV is on you and not on the POV itself. Well of course it's on me. Who ever said otherwise? I said there is no way 'I' can understand how anyone would think Trump is doing a good job. I have tried to understand and I have said 'I' can't do it. So who else would it 'be on'? But you just changed the goal posts. My answer was to why you would think I didn't think you had a right to your beliefs. When I said I did, you decided that there was something wrong with me because I couldn't understand that pov and that there wasn't anything wrong with the pov. Fine. I understand that you think there is something wrong with me because I can't understand how anyone could support Trump. That is your right. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 20:19:10 GMT -5
On a very personal level, should I contract COVID-19, at the moment I would want to be treated with the Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin(alternatively Doxycycline)/Zinc protocol. If I was in particularly dire straits, I would also want to be treated with intravenous Vitamin C. In the US, I would be confident of receiving this treatment, if I requested it. In Canada, not so much. In the US some "preppers" buy these same drug from a vet supply house or pet fish store without a prescription. Don't know if that's how it works Canada. Don't know if they are as pure or as safe. @wally may know how it works. yes you can get antibiotics through the pet system BUT some of the binders in them are not very good for human consumption use at your own risk...that said i do have 3 kinds in my stores...last resort.... |
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Post by snow on Apr 12, 2020 20:27:35 GMT -5
In the US some "preppers" buy these same drug from a vet supply house or pet fish store without a prescription. Don't know if that's how it works Canada. Don't know if they are as pure or as safe. @wally may know how it works. yes you can get antibiotics through the pet system BUT some of the binders in them are not very good for human consumption use at your own risk...that said i do have 3 kinds in my stores...last resort.... Antibiotics won't help in this case though. However, if you got the virus and a secondary bacterial infection, then they would possibly be useful. |
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Post by SharonArnold on Apr 12, 2020 20:33:10 GMT -5
On a very personal level, should I contract COVID-19, at the moment I would want to be treated with the Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin(alternatively Doxycycline)/Zinc protocol. If I was in particularly dire straits, I would also want to be treated with intravenous Vitamin C. In the US, I would be confident of receiving this treatment, if I requested it. In Canada, not so much. In the US some "preppers" buy these same drug from a vet supply house or pet fish store without a prescription. Don't know if that's how it works Canada. Don't know if they are as pure or as safe. @wally may know how it works. Ewww... I wouldn't advocate for anything not administered under the direction of a doctor. Otherwise you open yourself to consuming fish tank cleaner... and possible murder from a disgruntled spouse... |
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Post by SharonArnold on Apr 12, 2020 20:37:20 GMT -5
yes you can get antibiotics through the pet system BUT some of the binders in them are not very good for human consumption use at your own risk...that said i do have 3 kinds in my stores...last resort.... Antibiotics won't help in this case though. However, if you got the virus and a secondary bacterial infection, then they would possibly be useful. Yeah, I think that is why Azithromycin is such an important part of this protocol. (Plus, the zinc, for other reasons.) That is why many people are upset with the trials being carried out by the WHO and others (Canadian trials, as far as I have seen as well). They either call for Chloroquinine or Hydroxychloroquinine on their own, plus no distinction between early and late treatment. |
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Post by Lee on Apr 12, 2020 20:38:45 GMT -5
Thanks, but I actually agreed with the landlord. If I didn't pay the April rent and am closed down all this month, how would I come up with 2 months rent on the first of May? So the landlords logic is flawless. I've applied for a loan (grant) from the SMA, but they are slow as molasses. I've also got money, but its just tied up in other investments, so I'm resisting unraveling those and trying to make the business pay for itself. Time will tell.
<abbr title="Apr 12, 2020 5:34:57 GMT -5" class="o-timestamp time" data-timestamp="1586687697000">Apr 12, 2020 5:34:57 GMT -5</abbr> dmmichgood said: [Your quote]
"And no, I don't have kids to worry about, but if I had adult children, I suspect they would be helping their old man out ..
It was apparent that you didn't have children otherwise you would know more about families.
My daughter had just got a job after being unemployed for over six months.
Now we are ALL concerned about whether she will still have that job when this is over.
One son hasn't had a full time job for several years because of changes in the technology of the printing business.
He also had just gotten another part time job lately
My oldest son is disabled & lives with me.
So, you don't think I have a lot I could complain about as well?
Talking about the stock market, -what little I have I hoped would last me for the rest of my life & perhaps I could leave some to my family.
Now I know it could all go poof! -bang just like that!
No, -I don't agree with you that all people act like it is "a dog eat dog world where the strong survive and the weak fall by the wayside"
I'm amazed at the number of people who are out there volunteering to help other people & are taking a chance on getting the virus themselves.
Sorry your kids are struggling... In the business world, the strong do survive, the weak go bankrupt. I'm not complaining, but just describing my situation in this "How is everyone here coping through this pandemic?" thread. I'm coping pretty good, probably better than most. I mistakingly presumed you and others were very well off financially, ya'll sounded like rich folks  . I didn't think you understood that not everyone had the luxury of just sitting around the house and enjoying a 6 week vacation while the government was throwing $1200 checks their way. Purely from a numbers perspective, we can look at any number of illnesses that have resulted in vastly more deaths than COVID-19 has dealt us so far. Yet, we never shut down the economy. We never said, “don’t go out.” And we never threatened to imprison or fine U.S. citizens for hanging out together. Shutting down an entire economy just seems like a over-reaction to me, and if this thing persist for another month or two, the financial repercussions are going to be horrendous.
So while your looking at the immediate picture, I'm considering the bigger picture, I reckon both perspectives are important.
I hope to God on some distant shore that our leaders, our fourth column, and our populations, will negotiate quarantines with intelligence. The blanket lock downs are a function of politics and culture. People suck. There's no other greater story to the story. |
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. I didn't think you understood that not everyone had the luxury of just sitting around the house and enjoying a 6 week vacation while the government was throwing $1200 checks their way.