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Post by nathan on Feb 7, 2020 16:46:38 GMT -5
You folks will regret in great sorrows for all eternity. Said the self-righteous, all-mighty, always-right-and-everyone-else-is-wrong, I-always-post-in-red-because-my-words-are-more-important-than-yours Nathan. *** I just sound the horn of warnings for what to come, be smart and take heed and change. Noah warned about coming world wide flood, they laughed and scorned him just like you are doing it here! When the rushing river of flood water came upon them, they had wish they were in the ark with their families. You witches good and bad better watch out, and they who worshipping the beast/Satan false Christianity, when Jesus returns. The wrath of the Lamb will be pour out on them 100 folds. |
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Post by chuck on Feb 7, 2020 17:57:58 GMT -5
** If Thomas had said it incorrectly by calling Jesus God and LORD.. Jesus should have said I am NOT God so, don't call me that because that titile belongs to my Father ONLY. Jesus did NOT correct Thomas and Denied He wasn't God either. Jesus went on to BLESSED Thomas for his confession and admitting Jesus is His Lord God/Redeemer and Savior. Thomas was seeing two persons in Jesus at that time, for the first time. Only a short time beforehand (Ch. 14), as fixit patiently pointed out, Jesus had told the disciple that from henceforth they would see the Father (in him). Go back and read what fixit so diligently quoted. After the resurrection, Thomas saw Jesus, his Lord, and God the Father as his God in Jesus, just as Jesus said he (they would). Furthermore, only two verses later, John recorded that these things (and others) were (specifically) written to show that Jesus was the 'Son of God,' NOT God or God the son, etc. (Virgs) So you realise you are saying Jesus is not equal and not one with the Father/God. The Son of God confirms the Deity of Christ. They Crucified him for it. The Jews knew exactly what his claim was. |
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Post by chuck on Feb 7, 2020 18:06:42 GMT -5
So just ignore the accusation then? Claiming to be the Son Of God proves the Diety of Jesus. Jesus is claiming to be equal with God, he say's he is one with God, In God, God in Him, He says "I AM", Claims to be pre existent, They try to stone him more than once, They accuse him of calling/making himself God. Paul says In him ALL things were created, in HEAVEN and EARTH, Visible and INVISIBLE THRONES, He was before ALL things. Thomas say's to Jesus "My Lord AND MY GOD" Jesus told Pilate "My Kindom is not of this world" Jesus claims to be the SON OF GOD. All these things confirm the Deity of Jesus, The Jews Recognised this claim and Eventually Crucified him for it. No they don't mean that he is God, the Jewish leaders were baring false witness against him so they could accuse him of blasphemy because their hearts were full of wickedness and envy. Jesus didn't say that he was God, but the son of God and they used that against him, falsely accusing him of blasphemy to have him put to death. As for him saying he is one with God, he says that he is at one with the father and then he also says that those who belong to him are also one with him and the father, as seen in John 17. And that doesn't make them God because they are at one with Christ and the father does it? It means they are no longer of the world and their minds are on the higher things of God as Jesus's was, and their hearts and minds are at one with Christ Jesus and the father and they are all one through Christ by the power of the Spirit. As for his kingdom not being of this world, he also said that those who belong to him are not of this world either. So that doesn't make him God. John 17:13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, EVEN AS I AM NOT OF THE WORLD. 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 17:16 THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, EVEN AS I AM NOT OF THE WORLD. "No they dont mean he is God",  ? That is the accusation so how could they not mean it?. The Son of God is a claim/announcement of deity. Can you be the Son of God?, if not why not? Because the Son of God is Divine!, He is the manifestation of God in the flesh, He is God!. He is the creator of ALL things!. |
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Post by mountain on Feb 7, 2020 18:11:06 GMT -5
Thomas was seeing two persons in Jesus at that time, for the first time. Only a short time beforehand (Ch. 14), as fixit patiently pointed out, Jesus had told the disciple that from henceforth they would see the Father (in him). Go back and read what fixit so diligently quoted. After the resurrection, Thomas saw Jesus, his Lord, and God the Father as his God in Jesus, just as Jesus said he (they would). Furthermore, only two verses later, John recorded that these things (and others) were (specifically) written to show that Jesus was the 'Son of God,' NOT God or God the son, etc. (Virgs) So you realise you are saying Jesus is not equal and not one with the Father/God. J esus is NOT equal with God nor ever claimed to be. He is of course one with the Father/God in exactly the same way as he wants you to be.
The Son of God confirms the Deity of Christ. They Crucified him for it. The Jews knew exactly what his claim was. The Son of God confirmed nothing of the kind. There is only one deity and that is the Father (God).
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Post by Annan on Feb 7, 2020 18:17:53 GMT -5
Said the self-righteous, all-mighty, always-right-and-everyone-else-is-wrong, I-always-post-in-red-because-my-words-are-more-important-than-yours Nathan. *** I just sound the horn of warnings for what to come, be smart and take heed and change. Noah warned about coming world wide flood, they laughed and scorned him just like you are doing it here! When the rushing river of flood water came upon them, they had wish they were in the ark with their families. You witches good and bad better watch out, and they who worshipping the beast/Satan false Christianity, when Jesus returns. The wrath of the Lamb will be pour out on them 100 folds. You seriously need to stop threatening people with your myth, Nathan, but then threats are par for the course when it comes to christianity. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 7, 2020 18:22:35 GMT -5
Jesus is FROM the interior PLANET of Venus! Jesus is a PERSON, NOT a planet. Why is Jesus Called the "Morning Star"? Randy Alcorn I think it relates to HOPE and his immanent second coming. When Venus rises, it means the sun will follow very soon (in a morning, usually within an hour or two, sometimes just a matter of minutes). Christ's coming—and in a broad sense this could apply to both his first and his second coming—means/will mean God's light is about to shine forever on the universe, making all wrongs right, wiping away all tears, and fulfilling Revelation 21, with the creation of the new heavens and new earth, etc. On a long dark night, the appearance of the morning star means daybreak is imminent. In the long dark night of suffering on earth, Jesus being seen as the morning star means the eternal morning is about to dawn. Hence, Christ as the morning star is a picture of great promise and hope. In one of my books I call Jesus the Morning Star and several readers have gotten very upset, wondering why I would give Jesus a name that belongs to Satan. They are of course referring to Isaiah 14:12: “How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!” The point is that Morning Star was a name for Lucifer before his fall, and there is no inconsistency with two very different beings called by the same name. Lucifer was a creature of beauty and power. Christ is God, the Creator, beautiful and powerful beyond measure, the one Lucifer rebelled against. But the name Morning Star is not tainted—it is Satan who is tainted. Obviously this is the case, or Morning Star wouldn't be used of Christ as it is in Revelation 22:1-15, nor used in a positive way as it is in 1 Peter 1 and Revelation 2. Taken from "Jesus, Venus, and the Morning Star" by Randy Alcorn, Eternal Perspective Ministries, 39085 Pioneer Blvd., Suite 206, Sandy, OR 97055, 503-668-5200, www.epm.orgThank you, Annan! |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 7, 2020 18:24:38 GMT -5
Thomas was seeing two persons in Jesus at that time, for the first time. Only a short time beforehand (Ch. 14), as fixit patiently pointed out, Jesus had told the disciple that from henceforth they would see the Father (in him). Go back and read what fixit so diligently quoted. After the resurrection, Thomas saw Jesus, his Lord, and God the Father as his God in Jesus, just as Jesus said he (they would). Furthermore, only two verses later, John recorded that these things (and others) were (specifically) written to show that Jesus was the 'Son of God,' NOT God or God the son, etc. (Virgs) So you realise you are saying Jesus is not equal and not one with the Father/God. The Son of God confirms the Deity of Christ. They Crucified him for it. The Jews knew exactly what his claim was. Even the demons knew who he was. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 7, 2020 18:25:51 GMT -5
No they don't mean that he is God, the Jewish leaders were baring false witness against him so they could accuse him of blasphemy because their hearts were full of wickedness and envy. Jesus didn't say that he was God, but the son of God and they used that against him, falsely accusing him of blasphemy to have him put to death. As for him saying he is one with God, he says that he is at one with the father and then he also says that those who belong to him are also one with him and the father, as seen in John 17. And that doesn't make them God because they are at one with Christ and the father does it? It means they are no longer of the world and their minds are on the higher things of God as Jesus's was, and their hearts and minds are at one with Christ Jesus and the father and they are all one through Christ by the power of the Spirit. As for his kingdom not being of this world, he also said that those who belong to him are not of this world either. So that doesn't make him God. John 17:13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, EVEN AS I AM NOT OF THE WORLD. 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 17:16 THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, EVEN AS I AM NOT OF THE WORLD. "No they dont mean he is God", ? That is the accusation so how could they not mean it?. The Son of God is a claim/announcement of deity. Can you be the Son of God?, if not why not? Because the Son of God is Divine!, He is the manifestation of God in the flesh, He is God!. He is the creator of ALL things!. He is the express image of the Father, a concise copy. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 7, 2020 18:27:19 GMT -5
So you realise you are saying Jesus is not equal and not one with the Father/God. J esus is NOT equal with God nor ever claimed to be. He is of course one with the Father/God in exactly the same way as he wants you to be.
The Son of God confirms the Deity of Christ. They Crucified him for it. The Jews knew exactly what his claim was. The Son of God confirmed nothing of the kind. There is only one deity and that is the Father (God).
There is only one God; the Father, his Son and the Holy Spirit. Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal with God. Phillipians 2:6 |
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Post by nathan on Feb 7, 2020 19:56:23 GMT -5
There is only one God; the Father, his Son and the Holy Spirit. Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal with God. Phillipians 2:6 *** There is ONE God the Father; ONE Christ/God Jesus and ONE Holy Spirit. |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 7, 2020 20:00:19 GMT -5
You folks will regret in great sorrows for all eternity. Said the self-righteous, all-mighty, always-right-and-everyone-else-is-wrong, I-always-post-in-red-because-my-words-are-more-important-than-yours Nathan. Who calls himself a Christian !!! |
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Post by chuck on Feb 7, 2020 20:03:52 GMT -5
So you realise you are saying Jesus is not equal and not one with the Father/God. J esus is NOT equal with God nor ever claimed to be. He is of course one with the Father/God in exactly the same way as he wants you to be.
The Son of God confirms the Deity of Christ. They Crucified him for it. The Jews knew exactly what his claim was. The Son of God confirmed nothing of the kind. There is only one deity and that is the Father (God).
So everything was created(HEAVEN EARTH, INVISIBLE, VISIBLE, THRONES, by the way you realise Paul is saying the throne that God sits on was created through Christ!,POWERS)through Jesus, a mere man/women just like you or me before ALL things. No wonder you think we can work our way to heaven. You realise what ALL means?. |
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Post by chuck on Feb 7, 2020 20:15:06 GMT -5
So just ignore the accusation then? Claiming to be the Son Of God proves the Diety of Jesus. Jesus is claiming to be equal with God, he say's he is one with God, In God, God in Him, He says "I AM", Claims to be pre existent, They try to stone him more than once, They accuse him of calling/making himself God. Paul says In him ALL things were created, in HEAVEN and EARTH, Visible and INVISIBLE THRONES, He was before ALL things. Thomas say's to Jesus "My Lord AND MY GOD" Jesus told Pilate "My Kindom is not of this world" Jesus claims to be the SON OF GOD. All these things confirm the Deity of Jesus, The Jews Recognised this claim and Eventually Crucified him for it. Your own personal bias is applied on what is being said on the above verses. All taken out of context. www.youtube.com/watch?v=33uUTmSsPdcHaha I love it. Accuse me of personal bias while posting up ONLY videos of your bias. If your going to accuse someone of bias you'd want to be pure!. |
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Post by chuck on Feb 7, 2020 20:17:36 GMT -5
There is only one God; the Father, his Son and the Holy Spirit. Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal with God. Phillipians 2:6 What about the next 2 verses. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 7, 2020 20:23:44 GMT -5
*** I just sound the horn of warnings for what to come, be smart and take heed and change. Noah warned about coming world wide flood, they laughed and scorned him just like you are doing it here! When the rushing river of flood water came upon them, they had wish they were in the ark with their families. You witches good and bad better watch out, and they who worshipping the beast/Satan false Christianity, when Jesus returns. The wrath of the Lamb will be pour out on them 100 folds. You seriously need to stop threatening people with your myth, Nathan, but then threats are par for the course when it comes to christianity. My warnings are NOTHING compare to Jesus threats, he will burn unbelievers with fervent heat and melt their skins from their faces/bodies. You atheists and WITCHES! need to read the Bible to know what is coming to you. Read II Peter 3:9-13. REPENT and TUR to Christ/God Jesus as your Redeemer and Saviorof sins or you will pay for your own sins, which will NOT be acceptable before God the Father. |
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Post by chuck on Feb 7, 2020 21:10:43 GMT -5
You seriously need to stop threatening people with your myth, Nathan, but then threats are par for the course when it comes to christianity. My warnings are NOTHING compare to Jesus threats, he will burn unbelievers with fervent heat and melt their skins from their faces/bodies. You atheists and WITCHES! need to read the Bible to know what is coming to you. Read II Peter 3:9-13. REPENT and TUR to Christ/God Jesus as your Redeemer and Saviorof sins or you will pay for your own sins, which will NOT be acceptable before God the Father. Nathan this is the rantings of a religous nutjob. You scare them atheists/unbelievers to heaven you!. 🤦♂️ Did you realise the bible mentions overwhelmingly more about fire in Heaven than in Hell. |
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Post by fixit on Feb 7, 2020 21:16:49 GMT -5
*** I just sound the horn of warnings for what to come, be smart and take heed and change. Noah warned about coming world wide flood, they laughed and scorned him just like you are doing it here! When the rushing river of flood water came upon them, they had wish they were in the ark with their families. You witches good and bad better watch out, and they who worshipping the beast/Satan false Christianity, when Jesus returns. The wrath of the Lamb will be pour out on them 100 folds. You seriously need to stop threatening people with your myth, Nathan, but then threats are par for the course when it comes to christianity. Not my brand of Christianity. I'm as disgusted as you are with Nathan's threats. Jesus on the cross: "Father forgive them for they know not what they do". Nathan on TMB: "You better watch out. The wrath of the Lamb will be poured out on you 100 folds". |
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Post by nathan on Feb 7, 2020 21:23:21 GMT -5
You seriously need to stop threatening people with your myth, Nathan, but then threats are par for the course when it comes to christianity. Not my brand of Christianity. I'm as disgusted as you are with Nathan's threats. Jesus on the cross: "Father forgive them for they know not what they do". Nathan on TMB: "You better watch out. The wrath of the Lamb will be poured out on you 100 folds". *** Now, is the time for the atheists and WITCHES to receive forgiveness from Christ and God! After death it will be too late! In the book of Hebrews the Spirit says, today if you hear HIS voice to REPENTANT and harden NOT your heart like Pharoah! He harden his heart toward God's voice so, God harden HIS heart and DROWNED Pharaoh at the bottom of the RED Sea. |
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Post by Grant on Feb 7, 2020 21:26:32 GMT -5
So now you are saying Jesus is venus? Jesus is saying He was the bright and morning star, He has no need of being a planet.
According to the Bible the bright morning star, is refering to Jesus who is a person, not a planet. |
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Post by fixit on Feb 7, 2020 21:40:32 GMT -5
Not my brand of Christianity. I'm as disgusted as you are with Nathan's threats. Jesus on the cross: "Father forgive them for they know not what they do". Nathan on TMB: "You better watch out. The wrath of the Lamb will be poured out on you 100 folds". *** Now, is the time for the atheists and WITCHES to receive forgiveness from Christ and God! After death it will be too late! In the book of Hebrews the Spirit says, today if you hear HIS voice to REPENTANT and harden NOT your heart like Pharoah! He harden his heart toward God's voice so, God harden HIS heart and DROWNED Pharaoh at the bottom of the RED Sea. Here's a church that might work for you Nathan: Westboro Baptist ChurchThey're trinitarian, so that's a good start. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 7, 2020 21:41:35 GMT -5
Jesus is FROM the interior PLANET of Venus! Jesus is a PERSON, NOT a planet.
According to the Bible the bright morning star, is refering to Jesus who is a person, not a planet. ** I have heard a BETTER information than the guy who wrote the paper from Sandy Oregon Jesus is the Bright morning Star. I have posted these findings and information for 10 years but you folks don't pay attention or believe it. The information came from beings/human angels who came interior planet themselves. And people who went inside the interior planet of Venus and talked to Christ Jesus face to face themseves! |
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Post by nathan on Feb 7, 2020 21:45:24 GMT -5
*** Now, is the time for the atheists and WITCHES to receive forgiveness from Christ and God! After death it will be too late! In the book of Hebrews the Spirit says, today if you hear HIS voice to REPENTANT and harden NOT your heart like Pharoah! He harden his heart toward God's voice so, God harden HIS heart and DROWNED Pharaoh at the bottom of the RED Sea. Here's a church that might work for you Nathan: Westboro Baptist ChurchThey're trinitarian, so that's a good start. haha.. here are the TWO churches for you and those believe like you will fit in perfectly good as Anti-Christ and Jesus is NOT God, the Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons. |
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Post by reborn on Feb 7, 2020 21:48:42 GMT -5
So just ignore the accusation then? Claiming to be the Son Of God proves the Diety of Jesus. Jesus is claiming to be equal with God, he say's he is one with God, In God, God in Him, He says "I AM", Claims to be pre existent, They try to stone him more than once, They accuse him of calling/making himself God. Paul says In him ALL things were created, in HEAVEN and EARTH, Visible and INVISIBLE THRONES, He was before ALL things. Thomas say's to Jesus "My Lord AND MY GOD" Jesus told Pilate "My Kindom is not of this world" Jesus claims to be the SON OF GOD. All these things confirm the Deity of Jesus, The Jews Recognised this claim and Eventually Crucified him for it. No they don't mean that he is God, the Jewish leaders were baring false witness against him so they could accuse him of blasphemy because their hearts were full of wickedness and envy. Jesus didn't say that he was God, but the son of God and they used that against him, falsely accusing him of blasphemy to have him put to death. As for him saying he is one with God, he says that he is at one with the father and then he also says that those who belong to him are also one with him and the father, as seen in John 17. And that doesn't make them God because they are at one with Christ and the father does it? It means they are no longer of the world and their minds are on the higher things of God as Jesus's was, and their hearts and minds are at one with Christ Jesus and the father and they are all one through Christ by the power of the Spirit. As for his kingdom not being of this world, he also said that those who belong to him are not of this world either. So that doesn't make him God. John 17:13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, EVEN AS I AM NOT OF THE WORLD. 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 17:16 THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, EVEN AS I AM NOT OF THE WORLD. This was Jesus very clearly explaining the born again experience. When you are born again you become a citizen of heaven. Jesus is the king of that kingdom. |
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Post by reborn on Feb 7, 2020 22:00:41 GMT -5
*** Now, is the time for the atheists and WITCHES to receive forgiveness from Christ and God! After death it will be too late! In the book of Hebrews the Spirit says, today if you hear HIS voice to REPENTANT and harden NOT your heart like Pharoah! He harden his heart toward God's voice so, God harden HIS heart and DROWNED Pharaoh at the bottom of the RED Sea. Here's a church that might work for you Nathan: Westboro Baptist ChurchThey're trinitarian, so that's a good start. So is the Church of God- as we see here in Acts 20:28. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of god, which he hath purchased with his own blood. |
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Post by Annan on Feb 7, 2020 22:21:36 GMT -5
According to the Bible the bright morning star, is refering to Jesus who is a person, not a planet. ** I have heard a BETTER information than the guy who wrote the paper from Sandy Oregon Jesus is the Bright morning Star. I have posted these findings and information for 10 years but you folks don't pay attention or believe it. The information came from beings/human angels who came interior planet themselves. And people who went inside the interior planet of Venus and talked to Christ Jesus face to face themseves! Hearsay. Who cares that you have been preaching it for ten years. It's still hearsay. No proof. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 7, 2020 22:27:20 GMT -5
** I have heard a BETTER information than the guy who wrote the paper from Sandy Oregon Jesus is the Bright morning Star. I have posted these findings and information for 10 years but you folks don't pay attention or believe it. The information came from beings/human angels who came interior planet themselves. And people who went inside the interior planet of Venus and talked to Christ Jesus face to face themseves! Hearsay. Who cares that you have been preaching it for ten years. It's still hearsay. No proof. *** You atheists and WITCHES will find out soon or later when My God and Savior returns as KING of kings and LORD of Lords on the earth to establish His eternal kingdom with His people/believers. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 7, 2020 22:27:48 GMT -5
There is only one God; the Father, his Son and the Holy Spirit. Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal with God. Phillipians 2:6 What about the next 2 verses. That’s the verses that some people think he lost his deity. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 7, 2020 22:30:04 GMT -5
What about the next 2 verses. That’s the verses that some people think he lost his deity. ** How can Christ lost his Deity nature? When He is an ETERNAL GOD likes God the Father and Holy Spirit. |
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