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Post by joanna on Oct 6, 2019 3:49:41 GMT -5
Either you are incredibly naive or a troll @gratu
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Post by intelchips on Oct 6, 2019 6:49:50 GMT -5
Either you are incredibly naive or a troll @gratu Your first duty is to purge yourself in the flames of your confession before God. You must become ash in God's hands, for only then may you rise anew to strike the adversary down. -Apostle-Martial Zhar Pashay's dawn address to the Paladins at the Battle of Rahdo, Amarr Prime AD 20538
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Post by snow on Oct 6, 2019 13:21:48 GMT -5
It's hard to educate someone that is proud of being uneducated.
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Post by Get off of TMB on Oct 6, 2019 19:08:54 GMT -5
The bible isn't a book. It is a library of 66 books. Dozens of authors over thousands of years. Many authors didn't know each other.
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 6, 2019 19:44:37 GMT -5
Either you are incredibly naive or a troll @gratu Thank you kindly. Definition, Merriam Webster naive 1: marked by unaffected simplicity : ARTLESS, INGENUOUS 2a: deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment 3a: SELF-TAUGHT, PRIMITIVE The doctor agrees and cites the internal evidence by which belief of God's word is greatly encouraged Vid one, time stamp 6:06. “'You can't prove the Bible.' – 'yes you can.'” If any on here don't like this, no one is forcing them to click the links. But generally the beautifully simple common 2x2s might find very sound reasons to believe what workers commonly leave completely unsupported, making them very vulnerable to atheism if they discover the historical lies of 2x2ism that 'God's' spokespersons for today' (naive workers) have taught them historically. So thank you for posting your agreement – or alternately, thank you for trolling this thread - whichever your intention. @gratu I am curious, who exactly are " the beautifully simple common 2x2s"? How do you know they read anything on TMB ? Do they message you and thank you for all your youtube videos ?
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 6, 2019 22:22:55 GMT -5
Thank you kindly. Definition, Merriam Webster naive 1: marked by unaffected simplicity : ARTLESS, INGENUOUS 2a: deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment 3a: SELF-TAUGHT, PRIMITIVE The doctor agrees and cites the internal evidence by which belief of God's word is greatly encouraged Vid one, time stamp 6:06. “'You can't prove the Bible.' – 'yes you can.'” If any on here don't like this, no one is forcing them to click the links. But generally the beautifully simple common 2x2s might find very sound reasons to believe what workers commonly leave completely unsupported, making them very vulnerable to atheism if they discover the historical lies of 2x2ism that 'God's' spokespersons for today' (naive workers) have taught them historically. So thank you for posting your agreement – or alternately, thank you for trolling this thread - whichever your intention. @gratu I am curious, who exactly are " the beautifully simple common 2x2s"? How do you know they read anything on TMB ? Do they message you and thank you for all your youtube videos ?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 6, 2019 23:35:13 GMT -5
It's hard to educate someone that is proud of being uneducated. Thank you - but you seem to mistake total dependence upon God as 'pride,' and knowledge of God as 'uneducated,' which demonstrates what God said about YOU thousands of years ago. Simple necessity demands that before one can educate anyone else he/she must have education to teach from -- atheists claim to have come from nothing, and will end as nothing. I don't observe nothing as "education." And you demonstrate that you have nothing to offer anyone. This bit is posted ahead of the vid just for you, made to measure; Chuck Missler Genesis Session 07 Time stamp 58:34 “The real you has no mass. The real you is eternal, whether you like it or not. That's the problem. Where are you going to spend it?” Gratu,
I just want to let you to be aware of Missler's reputation & the what kind of person that you are relying on to be a morally honest & reliable person. A Los Angeles Times article reported that Missler and co-author Hal Lindsey had plagiarized a portion of Miami University Professor Edwin Yamauchi's 1982 book Foes from the Northern Frontier in their own 1992 book The Magog Factor.
Hal Lindsey's manager Paul Krikac said Missler had written the passages in question, but conceded that Lindsey is responsible for the overall manuscript: "His (Lindsey's) butt is on the line."[14] After the missed attribution was acknowledged by Missler,[15] book shipments to bookstores were discontinued and all of the authors' proceeds donated to a ministry.[16] Missler has also been accused of plagiarism of New Age writer Michael Talbot's 1992 book The Holographic Universe in his 1999 book Cosmic Codes: Messages from the Edge of Eternity.[17] Missler has also acknowledged this plagiarism and has since publicly apologized. He said a correction would be inserted in all unsold copies and the book itself updated in subsequent printings. Missler has donated all of the author's proceeds from the book to a ministry.[18] [15] Due to his experience with technology, Missler was a figurehead in bringing the "Year Two Thousand Bug" (a.k.a. "Y2K bug") to the attention of the Christian community.[19] ' In 1998 he coauthored a book with John Ankerberg investigating whether America would survive the crises to be caused, he claimed, by embedded computer chips that would malfunction on what they would calculate as year zero. from wiki (emphasis mine)
As we know Missler's "prophecy" did not come to pass in 1998.
So, doesn't it rise the question that if his prophecy failed in 1998 and his reputation doesn't appear to be very honest, -Gratu, -why would you want to take time out of your busy life to post this material?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 7, 2019 1:24:54 GMT -5
"Gratu, I just want to let you to be aware of Missler's reputation & the what kind of person that you are relying on to be a morally honest & reliable person." Thank you kindly. I am becoming very confident and now depend on it due to your history of doing so, that you will continue to dig out every skeleton in every closet of anyone that I post on here (2x2 style - whether true or false, rumor or tried and convicted), in complete keeping with what God said about YOU thousands of years ago. Maybe I'll post a link to Richard Dawkins next just to see what skeletons you dig up out of his closets. But for now, please take a stress pill and chill for enough time to overcome your obvious miserable condition. But I see no one forcing ANYONE to click links. AND the late Dr.Chuck Missler is/was not the ONLY good Bible teacher who taught/teaches the proofs of the Bible, so if someone is scared off clicking links on this thread by your stuff, they have the options to either hunt out their own Bible teacher of those proofs, or stay ignorant of those proofs. I'm sorry, Gratu, -that it upsets you when I find something that I think that you should know about those people who you trust to be honest & upright, but are not really very moral upstanding.
I just don't like to see people mislead by such purveyors of falsehoods.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 7, 2019 3:13:03 GMT -5
"...that it upsets you..." Don't let your miserable imagination run away with yu now - mabe take another stress pill and chill some more. I said I am depending on you to dig out all the skeletons for me now -now I'll add "happily" just in case you think you gotta be "sorry" again. "I just don't like to see people mislead by such purveyors of falsehoods." When Jesus Christ comes to take me home I'll meet the first and only perfectly righteous Bible teacher - until then I'm stuck with good Bible teachers who God uses in spite of their sinful nature. But I fear that you are going to hang onto your godless religion until it is too late for you to meet and go home with Him too. Well, sorr..oops! I won't say I'm sorry again.
Instead, here is what I am thinking.
With the demeaning way that you talk to me and others here when all we are trying to do is help you see you be taken by hooligans, -why would I even want to go to the place you call "home," -wherever that might be, if it contains the kind of malicious people like yourself that would be demeaning my posts like you keep doing? It is degrading enough to have someone like you talking to me now!
Why would I ever want to spend forever, and ever....with people like yourself, who would always be telling me to my ideas were just my "'miserable imagination,' and was running away with me" & telling me to "take another stress pill and chill?"
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 7, 2019 5:26:35 GMT -5
“Why would I ever want to spend forever, and ever ....” You don't know me - so it cannot be me that you hate in handing out your misery to me on a constant basis. And THAT means that you KNOW and hate the One I present to you - yup, God. You don't have a choice or the power to decide WHETHER you ”spend forever, and ever...” The only choice you've got is WHERE you spend forever and ever. And what you hand out shows your present miserable state - if you continue hating God as you obviously do, you will be a lot more miserable for ever and ever. And THAT in the face of your opportunity while you still draw breath to receive God's forgiveness as a GIFT and spend forever and ever where NO ONE is EVER miserable. It is true that I don't know you, but it isn't true that I hate you, -why should I hate you? Your perception that the reason I post on TMB because I'm am "miserable!"
Far from it, I just enjoy talking to other people about subjects of interest to me.
As for your accusation that I hate the "one" that you present to me, (your version of a god,) -I cannot "hate" something that I don't see any evidence of "its" existence. How can anyone either "love or "hate" something that they don't believe exists?.
You are correct that I DON'T have a choice or the power to decide where I will ”spend" time after I am dead. Like all flesh & blood life on this planet, I will simple disintegrate into the elements around me.
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 7, 2019 5:41:43 GMT -5
@gratu I am curious, who exactly are " the beautifully simple common 2x2s"? How do you know they read anything on TMB ? Do they message you and thank you for all your youtube videos ?
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 7, 2019 6:56:12 GMT -5
“How can anyone either "love or "hate" something that they don't believe exists?. “ You tell me – God told me that you do know He exists right from your birth, and He said you are suppressing your knowledge of Him. God also said you are a “fool.” So I am not surprised at seeing that evidence in what you hand out to me. Nor will I hesitate to hand yours right back to you – if I even bother responding to yours. By the way, since it is I who mentioned Richard Dawkins to you quite a while ago – why have you not posted up all his skeletons like you have done with everyone else I post on here? Surely you could have found his skeletons on wki by now. Wow so God told you @gratu that dmmichgood knows that he (God) exists and that she knew that from birth .... Goodness dmmichgood, you must have been a very special baby to know that at birth 😉😉😜😃
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 7, 2019 10:54:48 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Oct 7, 2019 13:16:22 GMT -5
It's hard to educate someone that is proud of being uneducated. Thank you - but you seem to mistake total dependence upon God as 'pride,' and knowledge of God as 'uneducated,' which demonstrates what God said about YOU thousands of years ago. Simple necessity demands that before one can educate anyone else he/she must have education to teach from -- atheists claim to have come from nothing, and will end as nothing. I don't observe nothing as "education." And you demonstrate that you have nothing to offer anyone. This bit is posted ahead of the vid just for you, made to measure; Chuck Missler Genesis Session 07 Time stamp 58:34 “The real you has no mass. The real you is eternal, whether you like it or not. That's the problem. Where are you going to spend it?” Yes and the 'real me' has no consciousness beyond the grave either.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 7, 2019 17:32:28 GMT -5
“How can anyone either "love or "hate" something that they don't believe exists?. “ You tell me – God told me that you do know He exists right from your birth, and He said you are suppressing your knowledge of Him. God also said you are a “fool.” So I am not surprised at seeing that evidence in what you hand out to me. Nor will I hesitate to hand yours right back to you – if I even bother responding to yours. By the way, since it is I who mentioned Richard Dawkins to you quite a while ago – why have you not posted up all his skeletons like you have done with everyone else I post on here? Surely you could have found his skeletons on wki by now. WOW!
I'm impressed! Gratu, YOU are on speaking terms with "GOD?"
If I were you, I think that I would be careful spreading that kind of thing about to just anyone! Someone is liable to call the asylum and they will send out the wagon to put you in a straight jacket!
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 7, 2019 17:44:06 GMT -5
“How can anyone either "love or "hate" something that they don't believe exists?. “ You tell me – God told me that you do know He exists right from your birth, and He said you are suppressing your knowledge of Him. God also said you are a “fool.” So I am not surprised at seeing that evidence in what you hand out to me. Nor will I hesitate to hand yours right back to you – if I even bother responding to yours. By the way, since it is I who mentioned Richard Dawkins to you quite a while ago – why have you not posted up all his skeletons like you have done with everyone else I post on here? Surely you could have found his skeletons on wki by now. Sorry, -but I really have tired to find what you want me to find about Dawkins but all ii have ever found is that can get a bit testy & irritated at ties. Understandable, really, -when one realizes what he has to deal with from people like yourself.
I saw that happen in a lecture of his that I attended.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 7, 2019 21:41:06 GMT -5
There is something that must give way when someone believes in a irrational myth like "creationism" in today's world
The dissonance caused by attempting to hold such a irrational belief along side of the rational knowledge that we employ today that affects our everyday lives, -must cause a lot of angst in the person trying to straddle both.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 7, 2019 23:13:59 GMT -5
Sorry, -but I really have tired to find what you want me to find about Dawkins but all ii have ever found is that can get a bit testy & irritated at ties. Understandable, really, -when one realizes what he has to deal with from people like yourself.
I saw that happen in a lecture of his that I attended. “Sorry, -but I really have tired to find what you want me to find about Dawkins ...” Aw – too bad for you – because your inability to find what is right there on wiki leaves you looking a lot like a hypocrite in full global view - more especially when you have a consistent miserable history of hunting out and publishing on here skeletons (true, false, rumor or otherwise) on every scientist's (or PhD) name that I have posted on here since I registered. It is more likely that there are no skeletons in Dawkins closet. His fellow scientists would catch him up if there were.
Yes, I do "hunt" down "facts" I have been told or read of something claiming to be true. Then I check out WHO is doing the claiming. I do more research to see just how probable their claim could be.
I check out the claims with people that I have found to be knowledgeable as well and honest that I can rely on to be truthful.
I found out long ago that is one of the best ways to keep from getting caught up in snake oil scams.
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Post by slowtosee on Oct 7, 2019 23:36:52 GMT -5
Interestingly, many scientists consider Dawkins a journalist , not a scientist. Alvin British scientists who mentioned Richard Dawkins during a recent study seem mostly to dislike him, with some arguing that he misrepresents science and is misleading the public. The common criticism was that Dawkins was too strong in his criticism of religion, and one nonreligious professor of biology referred to him as a “fundamental atheist”. "He feels compelled to take the evidence way beyond that which other scientists would regard as possible. ... I want [students] to develop [science] in their own lives. And I think it's necessary to understand what science does address directly." As a scientist, you’ve got to be very open, and I’m open to people’s belief in religion … I don’t think we’re in a position to deny anything unless it’s something which is within the scope of science to deny … I think as a scientist you should be open to it … It doesn’t end up encroaching for me because I think there’s quite a space between the two. www.independent.co.uk/news/science/richard-dawkins-atheism-criticism-atheist-study-rice-university-science-scientists-a7389396.html
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 8, 2019 0:11:24 GMT -5
Interestingly, many scientists consider Dawkins a journalist , not a scientist. Alvin British scientists who mentioned Richard Dawkins during a recent study seem mostly to dislike him, with some arguing that he misrepresents science and is misleading the public. The common criticism was that Dawkins was too strong in his criticism of religion, and one nonreligious professor of biology referred to him as a “fundamental atheist”. "He feels compelled to take the evidence way beyond that which other scientists would regard as possible. ... I want [students] to develop [science] in their own lives. And I think it's necessary to understand what science does address directly." As a scientist, you’ve got to be very open, and I’m open to people’s belief in religion … I don’t think we’re in a position to deny anything unless it’s something which is within the scope of science to deny … I think as a scientist you should be open to it … It doesn’t end up encroaching for me because I think there’s quite a space between the two. www.independent.co.uk/news/science/richard-dawkins-atheism-criticism-atheist-study-rice-university-science-scientists-a7389396.html Thank you for that article,Alvin.
From reading the complete article, -it sounds as if their complaints are more about his being so well known as an atheist.
Seemed they would rather he concentrated on science.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 8, 2019 0:38:18 GMT -5
here's some crazy stuff in the bible.
"For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken. No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the Lord made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God." (Leviticus 21:18-21)
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 8, 2019 0:39:20 GMT -5
More craziness.
But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5)
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 8, 2019 0:40:33 GMT -5
Pity the bastards, they have no hope.
"A dolled shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2)
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 8, 2019 0:42:20 GMT -5
Amputation was top of the hits. Especially if you wanted a bit of the pie in the sky.
"And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched." (Mark 9:43)
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 8, 2019 0:46:23 GMT -5
I pity the poor bloke who got kicked in the nuts by his faithful steed.
He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."(Deuteronomy 23:1)
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 8, 2019 0:47:32 GMT -5
And this one counts out 50% of the brain power in the world.
"I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." Timothy 2:11
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 8, 2019 6:27:38 GMT -5
Yuo – I can even quote God telling me, “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.” I only noted that you are always miserable in your posts to me – but thousands of years ago God told me that you are a “fool” and “corrupt” and do “ abominable” works too. And in your attempt in this post to exaggerate my words in order to blow them up into a balloon of 'mental illness,' I think God is right on the money with all three. It appears that someone is liable to call the asylum and they will send out the wagon to put you in a straight jacket. After all, God also said He gives people like you over to a "reprobate mind." Better call the asylum yourself huh. Stress pills won't do diddly on a reprobate mind." @gratu how did "God tell you thousands of years ago" ?? I didn't realise you were that old !!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 7:39:37 GMT -5
"...that it upsets you..." Don't let your miserable imagination run away with yu now - mabe take another stress pill and chill some more. I said I am depending on you to dig out all the skeletons for me now -now I'll add "happily" just in case you think you gotta be "sorry" again. "I just don't like to see people mislead by such purveyors of falsehoods." When Jesus Christ comes to take me home I'll meet the first and only perfectly righteous Bible teacher - until then I'm stuck with good Bible teachers who God uses in spite of their sinful nature. But sadly i say that I fear that you are going to hang onto your godless religion with nothing to gain by it ever, until it is too late for you to meet and go home with Him too. But then, you can take stress pills to cheer yourself up a bit now and then - and perhaps clean out the skeletons from your own closets for a change. He can't come quickly enough.
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