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Post by elizabethcoleman on May 10, 2019 4:28:33 GMT -5
Your Bible verse, alabamagal, has absolutely nothing to do with the part of my post you highlighted. And as far as Elizabeth and I sharing "commonalities" I believe that we do but don't know much about Elizabeth yet, but I believe she is my sister in Christ. Strange how some people notice that believers believe the same things - huh? By the way, who is "review?" I haven't seen any posts by such an alias in the time I have been here. You are very blessed. You understand, accept and confess publicly that you and Elizabeth have commonalities. No doubt will enjoy encouraging and feeding each other in your wholesome commonalities. Say, let us know if you are ever Alabama way, yall welcome. Yep, there's the tell. You'd make a very bad poker player, J. @gratu, Review is a worker from the southern hemisphere banned by his superiors from posting on here for obvious reasons. He tries all sorts of disguises and comes back in force now and then.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 4:43:02 GMT -5
Thanks Elizabeth, and now that I know that as well as what others know of that worker's calling cards (certainly not Aces), I thank the Holy Spirit for that rattle I heard too - He seldom fails to forewarn me, which has already been my experience almost upon my first post after registering on this board and knowing none who post here.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 4:50:12 GMT -5
Say Gratu, tell us about your reading of the "'quick' Word of God" and the new life and fellowship you got; something you never got with the awful 2x2s. To me, 2x2s are not "awful" and never were or will be - get stuffed 'alabamagal' just like the rest of the still existing workers who continue to lie to those lovely people while they cadge on their backs like huge burdens and now DO NOTHING as an excuse to be fed and housed free of charge let alone trip all over the planet on their backs as well.
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Post by sharingtheriches on May 10, 2019 11:36:51 GMT -5
To me, 2x2s are not "awful" and never were or will be - get stuffed 'alabamagal' just like the rest of the still existing workers who continue to lie to those lovely people while they cadge on their backs like huge burdens and now DO NOTHING as an excuse to be fed and housed free of charge let alone trip all over the planet on their backs as well. Say, you could be so kind as to tell of the intended stuffing material You wouldn't be rude in your benediction I hope ? gratu ma'am, appreciate much your benediction;bless your heart. Your reward in heaven has just increased; Lord willing and the creek don't rise hope you'll be giving lots more. "Workers cadge on their backs like huge burdens"..... and ma'am just saying like but you appear to be carrying a rather large anti 2x2 chip burden on your own blessed shoulder. p.s. also don't forget to tell us about ya reading of the "'quick' Word of God" and the new life and fellowship you got; something you never got with the awful 2x2s. “Cadge” certainly is telling, likely across the pond?
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Post by snow on May 10, 2019 16:23:44 GMT -5
Rich will be your reward in heaven. Mat 5: 11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you." You and Elizabeth seem to have not a small amount of commonalities. Would you happen to be an incarnation? Or pure coincidence? Your Bible verse, alabamagal, has absolutely nothing to do with the part of my post you highlighted. And as far as Elizabeth and I sharing "commonalities" I believe that we do but don't know much about Elizabeth yet, but I believe she is my sister in Christ. Strange how some people notice that believers believe the same things - huh? By the way, who is "review?" I haven't seen any posts by such an alias in the time I have been here. He was a poster awhile back. He hasn't been around for awhile. Alabamagal does seem to have the same kind of dialogue.
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Post by Pragmatic on May 10, 2019 17:20:41 GMT -5
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Post by openingact34 on May 10, 2019 23:38:14 GMT -5
"You are very blessed. You understand, accept and confess publicly that you and Elizabeth have commonalities. No doubt will enjoy feeding each other in your commonalities. You will be able to encourage and build each other up in your edifying commonalities. Say, let us know if you are ever Alabama way, yall welcome." What is really interesting is that when I read your first post on this thread I got up and went out back because I thought my relatives had arrived and were playing with their baby before coming in. I heard a rattle. My relatives were not out back though, and I still hear that rattle every time I read your subsequent posts. And the likelihood that I will ever be close to Alabama is zip, besides which I would not know how to "let you know" if I were "ever Alabama way." But thank you for the "yall welcome" anyway. Oh maam, what a wonderful, wonderful thing. I noticed a long rattle from you, so posted and you noticed a rattle from me. Your rattle seems to have been quite a bit longer though. Do you feel better after a long rattle and gripe about the cultish unChristlike 2x2ers? I'm sure you do.Good on you, keep it up! Well bless your heart. It's "good on you" that someone in the deep south would be able to mix in some of the Commonwealth talk amongst the "y'all"s. outbackdictionary.com/good-on-ya/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=good%20on%20ya
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Post by openingact34 on May 10, 2019 23:54:38 GMT -5
It's nice to find people who are fond of frequently using words like venomous and vitriolic. I rarely think to use them, but they are such nice additions to the vocabulary! Is not openingact34 confused?Does not his vitriolic posting activity (plus perhaps that of one or two of the above) reveal that 'The truth' is THEIR most hated enemy?(the other listed above are either dead or quite benign) It tortures them and drives them to shameless depths in their efforts to malign what they left! Pure venom is revealed in their posts and activity. Ross you have a deep understanding and perception of a workers life. You have picked up that it is holiday 5 months a year life in a corrupt system. Congrats. For a person as godly, intelligent, smart, kind, wise and Spirit lead as you are it is an absolute mystery how on earth you remained part of it for so long . No congrats Anyway you have had your eyes (and mouth) wide open for the last 15 years and your flow of godly venom, godly disaffection and godly mocking shows not the slightest sign of abating. congrats on your staying power. You are full of the a Sspirit . Your serve your cause with vigour and fortitude! Praise where praise is due, credit where credit is due. Congrats my friend Sorry Matt 10 but I know a family member spouse personally. If what you wrote was not so bizarre and spiteful I'd show it to them. I guess the venom you are possessed with harms more the vessel it is stored in that the one is is poured out on? Yes a miracle took place at the end of this person's life. I guess it would be an equally great miracle change if you become able to do other that mock it? See what more venomous potion you can come up with for your next post! My observation is that you are more filled with venom for the church you once belonged and your erroneous theology than anything else. Living witness doctrine is something that I'd never heard until disaffected ex members like you mentioned it. You get all twisted up with your living witness doctrine and I don't know what else causing you to fire your judgemental Pharisee like statements. Meanwhile most in our church enjoy life in Christ blissfully unaware of what bothers you so much. Really I do hope you get it where you are now. I sincerely mean that. Your present ranting reminds me of Saul of Tarsus. What should the ministry do when one member will not baptize such people and lambastes with the harsh venomous language those whose convictions and conscience tells them to do so? The Overseer in this case did not expect the worker (Graham in this instance) to baptize anyone against their conscience. About two years later the person was baptized by another worker." a)The thread is :Why workers say women should have long hair... b)There is no Scripture for 'wearing it up'. What 1 Cor 11 is teaching is God's order; right from verse one. 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? 15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. 16Paul is teaching is that it is good for men to have short(er) hair and for women to have long(er) hair. God is illustrating his point on God's order and submission to it. A differentiation between the sexes is what God arranged from the beginning. Even in nature animals teach that. In the case of the lion Mr Lion has the long hair and Mrs Lion the short hair. I think Cherie should have been born a lion and then she wouldn't have got vitriolic against what God inspired Paul to write. Now you just be a bit careful or I'll be wondering if you are becoming a vitriolic swedish poster( #2 ).. specializing in broad-brush generalizations ??!!!!!! Hey I don't think all us workers are all 'tarred with the same TV brush'!, are we? ;D An 'excellent' post by Ross Bowden. Helping all who read here to see what his 'true colours' are. Another of his imaginative....but false and incorrect posts. That poor man; the grudge, the poison, that consumes and drives him, wow! any wishing to contact me by pm are welcome to! Personal attacks.....hmm??? or some 'home truths' ? which? What some see as personal attacks others see as 'home truths' [home truth] A key or basic truth, especially one that is discomforting to acknowledge.
an unpleasant fact told to a person about himself
(http://www.thefreedictionary.com/home+truth)] Some come to TMB to 'beat up'.
Workers being a favourite target! But state a home truth or three.... something 'a bit close to the bone' about some who post vitriolically...and... surprise surprise Squeals of 'foul' and 'not fair' start to flow! Maybe TLC would be a friendlier, passive and less threatening forum for such minded posters?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 10, 2019 23:57:31 GMT -5
It's nice to find people who are fond of frequently using words like venomous and vitriolic. I rarely think to use them, but they are such nice additions to the vocabulary! Is not openingact34 confused?Does not his vitriolic posting activity (plus perhaps that of one or two of the above) reveal that 'The truth' is THEIR most hated enemy?(the other listed above are either dead or quite benign) It tortures them and drives them to shameless depths in their efforts to malign what they left! Pure venom is revealed in their posts and activity. Ross you have a deep understanding and perception of a workers life. You have picked up that it is holiday 5 months a year life in a corrupt system. Congrats. For a person as godly, intelligent, smart, kind, wise and Spirit lead as you are it is an absolute mystery how on earth you remained part of it for so long . No congrats Anyway you have had your eyes (and mouth) wide open for the last 15 years and your flow of godly venom, godly disaffection and godly mocking shows not the slightest sign of abating. congrats on your staying power. You are full of the a Sspirit . Your serve your cause with vigour and fortitude! Praise where praise is due, credit where credit is due. Congrats my friend Sorry Matt 10 but I know a family member spouse personally. If what you wrote was not so bizarre and spiteful I'd show it to them. I guess the venom you are possessed with harms more the vessel it is stored in that the one is is poured out on? Yes a miracle took place at the end of this person's life. I guess it would be an equally great miracle change if you become able to do other that mock it? See what more venomous potion you can come up with for your next post! My observation is that you are more filled with venom for the church you once belonged and your erroneous theology than anything else. Living witness doctrine is something that I'd never heard until disaffected ex members like you mentioned it. You get all twisted up with your living witness doctrine and I don't know what else causing you to fire your judgemental Pharisee like statements. Meanwhile most in our church enjoy life in Christ blissfully unaware of what bothers you so much. Really I do hope you get it where you are now. I sincerely mean that. Your present ranting reminds me of Saul of Tarsus. What should the ministry do when one member will not baptize such people and lambastes with the harsh venomous language those whose convictions and conscience tells them to do so? The Overseer in this case did not expect the worker (Graham in this instance) to baptize anyone against their conscience. About two years later the person was baptized by another worker." a)The thread is :Why workers say women should have long hair... b)There is no Scripture for 'wearing it up'. What 1 Cor 11 is teaching is God's order; right from verse one. 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? 15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. 16Paul is teaching is that it is good for men to have short(er) hair and for women to have long(er) hair. God is illustrating his point on God's order and submission to it. A differentiation between the sexes is what God arranged from the beginning. Even in nature animals teach that. In the case of the lion Mr Lion has the long hair and Mrs Lion the short hair. I think Cherie should have been born a lion and then she wouldn't have got vitriolic against what God inspired Paul to write. Now you just be a bit careful or I'll be wondering if you are becoming a vitriolic swedish poster( #2 ).. specializing in broad-brush generalizations ??!!!!!! Hey I don't think all us workers are all 'tarred with the same TV brush'!, are we? ;D An 'excellent' post by Ross Bowden. Helping all who read here to see what his 'true colours' are. Another of his imaginative....but false and incorrect posts. That poor man; the grudge, the poison, that consumes and drives him, wow! any wishing to contact me by pm are welcome to! Personal attacks.....hmm??? or some 'home truths' ? which? What some see as personal attacks others see as 'home truths' [home truth] A key or basic truth, especially one that is discomforting to acknowledge.
an unpleasant fact told to a person about himself
(http://www.thefreedictionary.com/home+truth)] Some come to TMB to 'beat up'.
Workers being a favourite target! But state a home truth or three.... something 'a bit close to the bone' about some who post vitriolically...and... surprise surprise Squeals of 'foul' and 'not fair' start to flow! Maybe TLC would be a friendlier, passive and less threatening forum for such minded posters? It must be difficult for workers living a lie for so long. Have some sympathy.
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Post by sharingtheriches on May 11, 2019 13:07:41 GMT -5
Oh maam, what a wonderful, wonderful thing. I noticed a long rattle from you, so posted and you noticed a rattle from me. Your rattle seems to have been quite a bit longer though. Do you feel better after a long rattle and gripe about the cultish unChristlike 2x2ers? I'm sure you do.Good on you, keep it up! Well bless your heart. It's "good on you" that someone in the deep south would be able to mix in some of the Commonwealth talk amongst the "y'all"s. outbackdictionary.com/good-on-ya/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=good%20on%20yaY’all is likely southern slaves using the Scottish term “ya aw”. Thus some say it’s southern USA but not really, it’s base is Scottish.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 11, 2019 14:58:20 GMT -5
Y’all is likely southern slaves using the Scottish term “ya aw”. Thus some say it’s southern USA but not really, it’s base is Scottish. There is a brilliant movie called the Song Catcher. Set in the USA it shows the link between the songs of the USA and the songs of Scotland.
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Post by Pragmatic on May 12, 2019 3:38:17 GMT -5
It's nice to find people who are fond of frequently using words like venomous and vitriolic. I rarely think to use them, but they are such nice additions to the vocabulary! It must be difficult for workers living a lie for so long. Have some sympathy. Beautiful aye! So becoming.And what’s with the new name, gone T as in LGBT?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 12, 2019 3:40:52 GMT -5
It must be difficult for workers living a lie for so long. Have some sympathy. Beautiful aye! So becoming.And what’s with the new name, gone T as in LGBT? aye wot?
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Post by Pragmatic on May 12, 2019 5:03:21 GMT -5
Beautiful aye! So becoming.And what’s with the new name, gone T as in LGBT? aye wot? Review —> Alabamagal. Sounds transgender ish to me
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Post by CherieKropp on May 12, 2019 7:44:34 GMT -5
Y’all is likely southern slaves using the Scottish term “ya aw”. Thus some say it’s southern USA but not really, it’s base is Scottish. There is a brilliant movie called the Song Catcher. Set in the USA it shows the link between the songs of the USA and the songs of Scotland. Beg your pardon. Being raised in Mississippi (about as southern as you can get), I can say with confidence that Y'all is the Southernese abbreviation for you all
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Post by sharingtheriches on May 12, 2019 16:08:54 GMT -5
Review —> Alabamagal. Sounds transgender ish to me That’s the fun of the different posting names. To see how long it takes for people to recognize a type of basic language usage! 😉
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Post by sharingtheriches on May 12, 2019 16:12:45 GMT -5
There is a brilliant movie called the Song Catcher. Set in the USA it shows the link between the songs of the USA and the songs of Scotland. Beg your pardon. Being raised in Mississippi (about as southern as you can get), I can say with confidence that Y'all is the Southernese abbreviation for you allStill doesn’t keep it from being a southern plantation slaves’ rendering of Scottish “ye aw”, now would it?
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Post by sharingtheriches on May 12, 2019 16:28:10 GMT -5
Y’all has been discovered in English literature as far back as in the earlier 1700’s. It was used by poetic license to make syllable count and stress.
The Northern Scots in speaking English were prone to speak “you all” as “ye aw”. Knowing a rolling brogue this is very likely as it is harder to roll out a “You all” in comparison to rolling out a “ye aw”. This would have been back in the years that “ye” was commonly used instead of “You”.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 22:03:42 GMT -5
William C. (William Charles) Braithwaite The beginnings of Quakerism online www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/william-c-william-charles-braithwaite/the-beginnings-of-quakerism-iar/1-the-beginnings-of-quakerism-iar.shtmlThis book is referred to in The Secret Sect -- Quote Soon after this Muggleton and his cousin John Reeve began to have revelations of their own, and announced themselves as the two witnesses of Revelation XI, sent, they said, to seal the elect and reprobate with eternal seals of life and death, after which Jesus would visibly appear... The self-confidence of the two prophets, and the assurance with which they pronounced curses against those who rejected them, enabled them in that age of religious confusion to found a sect which lingered on as late as the year 1868, and is not yet quite extinct." W.C. Braithwaite, The Beginnings of Quakerism, Cambridge University Press, 1961, p.20. B.R. Wilson also commented, "There have of course been many others-many sect leaders have identified themselves with figures from Revelation or other Biblical personages - Joanna Southcott, Mother Ann Lee, and Jan Bockelson at Munster in 1524 ... and many prophets in Africa in our own times." Personal communication, 30.5.1971. Unquote Now all can at least check the Parkers' quotation for accuracy online (the quote is accurate), The Beginnings of Quakerism makes an enlightening read that I think 2x2s would understand well enough to realize that William Irvine was way off track with the Bible in the very beginning of his founding of the 2x2 group.. The Bible details the “gospel” very clearly as the death of Christ for our sins, His burial and His resurrection on the third day – so Irvine's so called 'gospel' of homeless preachers and meetings in homes eisogeted out of select-bits of Matthew 10 is about as far off the wall as is possible to get -- even considering Irvine's lack of and wilful rejection of all Bible training. On top of his approximate grade 6 schooling obtained at night after long hours working underground in the coal mine starting at age 10. Obviously his claim to “prophet” status was self-pride or self-delusion or both – very similar to that described in The Beginnings of Quakerism.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 22:50:23 GMT -5
Review —> Alabamagal. Sounds transgender ish to me That’s the fun of the different posting names. To see how long it takes for people to recognize a type of basic language usage! 😉 I got mine ( Olea ) off a page I was looking at about Olive trees at the time. Trying to think of passwords and avatars drives me crazy.
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Post by sharingtheriches on May 14, 2019 23:22:02 GMT -5
That’s the fun of the different posting names. To see how long it takes for people to recognize a type of basic language usage! 😉 I got mine ( Olea ) off a page I was looking at about Olive trees at the time. Trying to think of passwords and avatars drives me crazy. Well, could spell it “olio”. A Hodpodge, a collection of things, a stew! 😉
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Post by joanna on May 14, 2019 23:50:18 GMT -5
2x2s According to Inside and Outside Examination
The greater the distance you remove yourself outside of the 2x2 belief, the clearer the picture is of that group.
And some of you remain so bogged down by your persisting belief system that you are unable to discern that the issues which are undeniably present in the 2x2 group, also exist in other churches. Your lack of discernment is repeatedly proven by the criticism of cultural 2x2 practices which you present as specific to the 2x2's but which are also the cultural practices of many other faiths including those the ex-2x2 critic now believes in.
These include the belief you have found the true way, and the tendency to claim other christian churches or faiths are false. This is really one of the most bizarre criticisms made against the 2x2's given christians believe committing to Jesus is the key to eternal salvation.
The existence of over 30, 000 christian variations proves that the alleged word of god confuses the frail human mind. It also shows the hand of god is absent as there is an absolute lack of clarification to relieve this historical confusion.
The further you are outside of the 2x2 group, the clearer it is to identify the traits shared by all you believers. It is both interesting and concerning, that this lack of objectivity, and the religious confusion displayed by christians on this forum, provides an insight into the contributors of religious sectarianism. And anyone who participates in religious sectarianism is supporting an extremely dangerous practice.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 15, 2019 3:59:09 GMT -5
2x2s According to Inside and Outside ExaminationThe greater the distance you remove yourself outside of the 2x2 belief, the clearer the picture is of that group. And some of you remain so bogged down by your persisting belief system that you are unable to discern that the issues which are undeniably present in the 2x2 group, also exist in other churches. Your lack of discernment is repeatedly proven by the criticism of cultural 2x2 practices which you present as specific to the 2x2's but which are also the cultural practices of many other faiths including those the ex-2x2 critic now believes in. These include the belief you have found the true way, and the tendency to claim other christian churches or faiths are false. This is really one of the most bizarre criticisms made against the 2x2's given christians believe committing to Jesus is the key to eternal salvation. The existence of over 30, 000 christian variations proves that the alleged word of god confuses the frail human mind. It also shows the hand of god is absent as there is an absolute lack of clarification to relieve this historical confusion. The further you are outside of the 2x2 group, the clearer it is to identify the traits shared by all you believers. It is both interesting and concerning, that this lack of objectivity, and the religious confusion displayed by christians on this forum, provides an insight into the contributors of religious sectarianism. And anyone who participates in religious sectarianism is supporting an extremely dangerous practice. The principle issue is that all believers believe in a mythological god. That then clouds their thinking on all matters pertaining to their belief. This year I had a lovely garden. It was because of the leprechauns that live at the bottom of it.
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Post by speak on May 15, 2019 4:26:47 GMT -5
2x2s According to Inside and Outside ExaminationThe greater the distance you remove yourself outside of the 2x2 belief, the clearer the picture is of that group. And some of you remain so bogged down by your persisting belief system that you are unable to discern that the issues which are undeniably present in the 2x2 group, also exist in other churches. Your lack of discernment is repeatedly proven by the criticism of cultural 2x2 practices which you present as specific to the 2x2's but which are also the cultural practices of many other faiths including those the ex-2x2 critic now believes in. These include the belief you have found the true way, and the tendency to claim other christian churches or faiths are false. This is really one of the most bizarre criticisms made against the 2x2's given christians believe committing to Jesus is the key to eternal salvation. The existence of over 30, 000 christian variations proves that the alleged word of god confuses the frail human mind. It also shows the hand of god is absent as there is an absolute lack of clarification to relieve this historical confusion. The further you are outside of the 2x2 group, the clearer it is to identify the traits shared by all you believers. It is both interesting and concerning, that this lack of objectivity, and the religious confusion displayed by christians on this forum, provides an insight into the contributors of religious sectarianism. And anyone who participates in religious sectarianism is supporting an extremely dangerous practice. The principle issue is that all believers believe in a mythological god. That then clouds their thinking on all matters pertaining to their belief. This year I had a lovely garden. It was because of the leprechauns that live at the bottom of it. Could only be down south
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 13:45:24 GMT -5
2x2s According to Inside and Outside ExaminationThe greater the distance you remove yourself outside of the 2x2 belief, the clearer the picture is of that group. And some of you remain so bogged down by your persisting belief system that you are unable to discern that the issues which are undeniably present in the 2x2 group, also exist in other churches. Your lack of discernment is repeatedly proven by the criticism of cultural 2x2 practices which you present as specific to the 2x2's but which are also the cultural practices of many other faiths including those the ex-2x2 critic now believes in. These include the belief you have found the true way, and the tendency to claim other christian churches or faiths are false. This is really one of the most bizarre criticisms made against the 2x2's given christians believe committing to Jesus is the key to eternal salvation. The existence of over 30, 000 christian variations proves that the alleged word of god confuses the frail human mind. It also shows the hand of god is absent as there is an absolute lack of clarification to relieve this historical confusion. The further you are outside of the 2x2 group, the clearer it is to identify the traits shared by all you believers. It is both interesting and concerning, that this lack of objectivity, and the religious confusion displayed by christians on this forum, provides an insight into the contributors of religious sectarianism. And anyone who participates in religious sectarianism is supporting an extremely dangerous practice. Posts like this one look great until one asks for a definition of the word "christian" used within it. And then one might notice that the post ALSO at least implies to have 'found the right way' in asserting no way at all. And it purports to report the same issues within 'other churches' with no evidence the poster has ever attended any other church . In fact the evidence in most Christian churches shows the very opposite is true of any Christian church - again emphasizing the definition of the word "christian" used within the post. The post also focuses on "cultural" and "practices" said to be common with "other churches" when those are non-issues in all Christian churches - again emphasizing the definition of the word "christian" used within the post. But please, don't let me disrupt the presentation of a 'no belief' belief system. Some evidently have no choice in their active suppression of any form of truth except 'no truth', including their own presentation of 'truth.' (just ordinary and simple self-refutation)
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Post by fixit on May 15, 2019 14:47:15 GMT -5
Now all can at least check the Parkers' quotation for accuracy online (the quote is accurate), The Beginnings of Quakerism makes an enlightening read that I think 2x2s would understand well enough to realize that William Irvine was way off track with the Bible in the very beginning of his founding of the 2x2 group.. The Bible details the “gospel” very clearly as the death of Christ for our sins, His burial and His resurrection on the third day – so Irvine's so called 'gospel' of homeless preachers and meetings in homes eisogeted out of select-bits of Matthew 10 is about as far off the wall as is possible to get -- even considering Irvine's lack of and wilful rejection of all Bible training. On top of his approximate grade 6 schooling obtained at night after long hours working underground in the coal mine starting at age 10. Obviously his claim to “prophet” status was self-pride or self-delusion or both – very similar to that described in The Beginnings of Quakerism. You should mention that William Irvine attended the Bible Institute for two years before he joined the Faith Mission on June 14, 1895. www.tellingthetruth.info/history_articles/faith_mission.php
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 15:43:14 GMT -5
Now all can at least check the Parkers' quotation for accuracy online (the quote is accurate), The Beginnings of Quakerism makes an enlightening read that I think 2x2s would understand well enough to realize that William Irvine was way off track with the Bible in the very beginning of his founding of the 2x2 group.. The Bible details the “gospel” very clearly as the death of Christ for our sins, His burial and His resurrection on the third day – so Irvine's so called 'gospel' of homeless preachers and meetings in homes eisogeted out of select-bits of Matthew 10 is about as far off the wall as is possible to get -- even considering Irvine's lack of and wilful rejection of all Bible training. On top of his approximate grade 6 schooling obtained at night after long hours working underground in the coal mine starting at age 10. Obviously his claim to “prophet” status was self-pride or self-delusion or both – very similar to that described in The Beginnings of Quakerism. You should mention that William Irvine attended the Bible Institute for two years before he joined the Faith Mission on June 14, 1895. www.tellingthetruth.info/history_articles/faith_mission.phpI have not looked at your link, but will answer with what I know from Irvine's pen. William Irvine wrote about the Bible college rejecting his student application, but failed to suggest the reason he was denied enrollment at their college. I know some claim he attended Bible college for some two years, but Irvine himself wrote otherwise. If I can find Irvine's letter among my files, I'll post it here as an edit later. Edit - This was easier found electronically within the online book named William Irvine Religious Environmernt (2010). The "ibid" at the end of the quote refers to the source of the quotation, being TTT. I have hard copy of the letter to Dunbars, but that would take days of paper file searches to then do data entry upon in order to post it here - I don't have that kind of time these days. To check it, click the link below, and when that book is on your screen, do a find of "letter to Dunbars". drive.google.com/file/d/1mx18devrGLoYOD3DnJ-RxbUdCtYJgTlS/view?usp=sharing"“...was not satisfied with my knowledge of the book. . . In September they refused to receive me as a student in the Bible Training Institute, Glasgow, though I attended the classes from outside. . . I benefited in the Bible Institute by getting to know the book according to the teachings of the best and most holy and evangelical missionary people in the world.” (October 13, 1920 Letter to Dunbars). ibid"
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