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Post by howitis on Nov 26, 2017 23:40:58 GMT -5
Yes CSA is everyone's responsibility and we should be talking about it out in the open, not trying to hide it....I think that is why CSA and sexual assault in general, is so prevalent in our society today, especially with the spate of historical cases coming out in the open...once this was totally taboo...now we're talking and we need to talk much more....we need to ask ourselves; who is at risk? Why? How can we protect those at risk? How do we identify predators? What do we do with them? And many many more questions....in a world that can make remedies for so many things why can't we look at this problem and be bold enough to suggest practices that whilst it may not cure society of this problem, it would at least protect those at risk.
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Post by snow on Nov 27, 2017 13:01:08 GMT -5
The paper states pedophile, but they use that word pretty loosely it seems. Unless he has been diagnosed as one, he shouldn't be labelled as one, and if he truly is a diagnosed pedophile, then there is no cure. If he is loose and a pedophile he likely would be chemically castrated, though that wouldn't necessarily be common knowledge. If he is and he is taking the meds for chemical castration then he is likely safe walking free.
This is from WIKI:
Treatment for sex offenders[edit]
The first use of chemical castration occurred in 1944, when diethylstilbestrol was used with the purpose of lowering men's testosterone.[11] The antipsychotic agent benperidol is sometimes used to diminish sexual urges in people who display inappropriate sexual behavior, and can likewise be given by depot injection. But benperidol does not affect testosterone and is therefore not a castration agent. Chemical castration is often seen as an easier alternative to life imprisonment or the death penalty because it allows the release of sex offenders while reducing or eliminating the chance that they reoffend.[12]
In 1981, in an experiment by P. Gagne, 48 males with long standing histories of sexually deviant behaviour were given medroxyprogesterone acetate for as long as 12 months. Forty of those subjects were recorded as to have diminished desires for deviant sexual behaviour, less frequent sexual fantasies, and greater control over sexual urges. The research recorded a continuation of this more positive behaviour after the administration of the drug had ended with no evidence of adverse side effects and recommended medroxyprogesterone acetate along with counselling as a successful method of treatment for serial sex offenders.[13]
Scientific critique[edit]
Citing the observation that spaying causes female animals to stop mating in the same species as castration cause male animals to stop mating, and that in the animal species where females continue their mating behavior after being spayed the males also continue to mate after being castrated, there are scientists who argue that it makes no biological sense to assume that any treatment that emulates castration would remove sex drive in men but not in women. These scientists argue that these observations, along with the fact that humans are animals and subject to evolution, show that it is flawed to think that male sexuality would be treatable by medication if female sexuality is not.[14][15]
Some criminologists argue that the appearance of a lower recidivism rate in male sex offenders who take chemical castration treatment than in those who do not can be explained by factors other than biological effects of the medication. One hypothesis is that men who accept the negative effects of hormonal treatment in exchange for shorter prison sentence are distinct in that they value freedom from incarceration higher than men who rather stay in prison for a longer time than face the side effects of chemical castration. These scientists explain apparently lower recidivism as an artifact of men who accept chemical castration being more engaged in hiding the evidence for reoffending, and that paroling such offenders constitute a risk of releasing criminals who commit as many new crimes as others but are better at hiding it. These criminologists also argue that police investigators treating castrated men as less likely to reoffend than non-castrated men may cause an investigation bias and self-fulfilling prophecy, and that men who sell some of their prescribed medicines on the black market for drugs get a hidden income that improve their ability to afford measures to hide recidivism that is not available to men without such presciptions.[16][17][18]
Some neurologists acknowledge that testosterone plays a role in sexual arousal but that reducing sex drive will likely not reduce inappropriate sex behavior. These researchers argue that since a weaker internal signal in the brain means a higher requirement for external stimulation to create a feedback loop that tires the brain circuits out as in orgasm and lead to satisfaction, a reduction of the internal stimulation from hormones would make the required external stimulation stronger nawnd also more specific, as weaker signals involve narrower ranges of other brain functions in their loops. These scientists therefore argue that the biological (as opposed to sociological) effect of reduced testosterone is to make it more difficult and not easier to use masturbation without pornography or other socially acceptable substitutes to manage remaining sex drive in a former offender, and that many community persons (both male and female) find that a lower initial arousal makes it more difficult to orgasm by masturbation without pornography or with non-preferred stimulation. [19][20]
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Post by mod5 on Dec 13, 2017 16:10:38 GMT -5
This case went back to court yesterday to try and have the suppression order on the perpetrator’s name lifted.
The judge has ruled that his name and even initials remain suppressed, however has lifted the suppression order on the names of the two victims!
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Post by kittens on Dec 14, 2017 0:48:57 GMT -5
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Post by godsgrace on Dec 14, 2017 15:35:58 GMT -5
That's ok. Most of the local community already know who he is. The only thing that worries me is that some are trying to find out which church group he belongs to so they can take it out on the church. This would mean people's private homes and actual people as there is no church building. Not ALL the friends want to protect people like him. I'm worried that the ones who don't may be the ones who get caught up in this if people become angry enough about the way it is being handled. Pity the 'Heads' of the church don't grow a backbone and publicly announce they and the church want nothing to do with people like this and that it is against all they believe in - and really mean what they say in words and actions. Not just this particular case but all cases. Erm, that would be ‘admitting’ they were some kind of organisation if they were to publicly do that kittens. Then the public would want a name! What on earth would they call it? So we can be fairly sure that won’t ever happen. |
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Post by kittens on Dec 14, 2017 17:12:07 GMT -5
That's ok. Most of the local community already know who he is. The only thing that worries me is that some are trying to find out which church group he belongs to so they can take it out on the church. This would mean people's private homes and actual people as there is no church building. Not ALL the friends want to protect people like him. I'm worried that the ones who don't may be the ones who get caught up in this if people become angry enough about the way it is being handled. Pity the 'Heads' of the church don't grow a backbone and publicly announce they and the church want nothing to do with people like this and that it is against all they believe in - and really mean what they say in words and actions. Not just this particular case but all cases. Erm, that would be ‘admitting’ they were some kind of organisation if they were to publicly do that kittens. Then the public would want a name! What on earth would they call it? So we can be fairly sure that won’t ever happen. |
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Post by snow on Dec 14, 2017 19:04:17 GMT -5
Maybe the 'guilty by association' affecting the lives of the friends will be the spark that will get them to confront the workers about making changes. Nothing gets people motivated for change more than their own lives being in jeopardy. So maybe this is a good thing in the long run. It might get more people in the Truth to do something about child abuse and the abusers.
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Post by howitis on Dec 14, 2017 19:50:09 GMT -5
We all need to be very careful here discussing the case at hand.....it would only make matters worse should somebody divulge certain information before proceedings are finalised. As is mentioned many already know this person's identity. I do not believe he attends the same church as when the offences occurred. As snow has mentioned it really needs to be properly ascertained that this man is truly a paedophile.......if not he should be punished for the crimes he committed then and be allowed to move on, otherwise are we all so inhumane to be able to accept that yes mistakes are made in life and although they cannot be rectified we can accept punishment and move forward. One victim has stated that she went with her friend to places alone with this man, they were young 11-13 he was 19, surely somewhere some warning bells must have sounded ....thankfully this victim by the time she was 16 was able to say NO!! As far as guilty by association is concerned, are we going to keep on punishing innocent people....try finding a group or organisation that has involvement with children that has not had some cases of CSA .....I am constantly appalled by the amount of new statements being made by individuals who were involved in different organisations as children. The best we can do here in this situation is ask that the perpetrator be clinically diagnosed whether he is a paedophile or not....if so he should be chemically castrated or similar so that there are no more victims. If not he should be punished for his crime and be abke to move on with his life.....there is so much collateral damage that could be apparent here if the common sense approach is not taken. |
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Post by Admin on Dec 15, 2017 17:08:52 GMT -5
We all need to be very careful here discussing the case at hand.....it would only make matters worse should somebody divulge certain information before proceedings are finalised. When will this case be 'finalised'? What more remains to happen? |
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Post by kittens on Dec 15, 2017 17:45:08 GMT -5
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 15, 2017 18:09:09 GMT -5
We all need to be very careful here discussing the case at hand.....it would only make matters worse should somebody divulge certain information before proceedings are finalised. When will this case be 'finalised'? What more remains to happen? The way I read this is that the Attorney General will most likely appeal the sentence. If that is successful and he is resentenced then the suppression orders will hopefully be lifted. Secondly there is one if not two new complainants. If the guy goes up before the beak again and he is found guilty, expect the book to be thrown at him and the cell key tossed in the other direction. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 15, 2017 18:10:59 GMT -5
Another point to remember is that others in this man's fellowship are being ostracized and in my view quite rightly. If you consort with the devil and hide his works then expect to be treated like one.
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Post by CherieKropp on Dec 20, 2017 10:28:19 GMT -5
Update - suppression order lifted and names of two victims are now public, and a third has come forward: www.2gb.com/paedophile-victim-feels-judges-sentence-is-as-bad-as-the-attack/NOTICE TO AUSTRALIANS: Please be careful what you post about this. Judge ordered that the perpetrator is to be called "the offender." His name and name of religion have been suppressed by Ausstralian judge. So do not reveal these names or even initials or you could be charged for breaking Judge’s orders. The names of the victims are now public information. The video above contains an interview with one fo the victims. Reportedly, the Attorney General spoke to the girls yesterday. It will come before the Court of Criminal Appeal early next year to have the suppression orders lifted. |
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Post by snow on Dec 20, 2017 15:08:57 GMT -5
Update - suppression order lifted and names of two victims are now public, and a third has come forward: www.2gb.com/paedophile-victim-feels-judges-sentence-is-as-bad-as-the-attack/NOTICE TO AUSTRALIANS: Please be careful what you post about this. Judge ordered that the perpetrator is to be called "the offender." His name and name of religion have been suppressed by Ausstralian judge. So do not reveal these names or even initials or you could be charged for breaking Judge’s orders. The names of the victims are now public information. The video above contains an interview with one fo the victims. Reportedly, the Attorney General spoke to the girls yesterday. It will come before the Court of Criminal Appeal early next year to have the suppression orders lifted. Thanks Cherie. I guess it's pretty obvious what religion if anyone reads here. I'm surprised that it's been okay to talk about it here at all. |
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Post by howitis on Dec 20, 2017 19:44:50 GMT -5
The thread titled "Perverted ex-brother worker given a light sentence??" Should be removed completely mod4 as this is not correct....please check facts Get off of TMB |
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Post by howitis on Dec 20, 2017 20:05:27 GMT -5
They may be mixing him up with a close relative - who was a brother worker. Yes I think so too kittens, I just think we all need to be very careful....making wrong assumptions on social media will not do the victims any favours. |
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Post by magpie1 on Feb 7, 2019 19:02:29 GMT -5
The problem started in Ulster. .. www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0roC35Mdow .. Magpie..PS howitis.if you are refering to the 2x Preachers given jail in Victoria,CRIMINAL CHILD SEX ABUSERS? Barry's $5000.oo a day criminal Psychatrist Wendy Southy cleverly manipulated the Court so as the other victim numbers were not given to the bench. Leitch was there,why didn't he demand, as the State Bishop, that before God,His Holy Spirit and our Law he be open and honest,facing the cleaning of his soul by repentance,as the Bible teachings,especially before (count appears 30+,coming from 2x2 sources). "NO"for the sake of the Kingdom it is better to let it go away. So Barry is back in the community again,so are millions of Australian Children.Chandler did not appeal was advised that his sentence may be increased. Magpie. |
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Post by landdownunder on Aug 24, 2023 23:03:55 GMT -5
Graphic Content
Ex-religious cult worker sentenced for historic child sex offences
Staff reporters
Published 25 August 2023, 07:30 am
Australia’s legal system is a complex framework of several courts that work together to resolve disputes.
The public gallery was full when a former worker from an unidentified religious sect was sentenced for molesting multiple children in the 1970s.
The 77-year-old man, who has connections to the region, was sentenced in Orange District Court on Thursday, August 24, for indecent assault against six victims who were under the age of 16 over the course of an eight-year period.
The man, who the court was told has shown no remorse, cannot be identified to protect the identity of the victims.
Judge Penny Musgrave said the victims ranged from three or four years old to 15 years old, while one was also assaulted when she was 17.
File picture
Orange Courthouse where a man has been sentenced for using his role in a religious sect to indecently assault six girls in the 1970s.
The court was told the man travelled around the state as part of his role in the religious group and the offences against the children took place in cars and inside the homes of fellow church members.
“The children were touched in situations where they were unable to leave and others were present,” Judge Musgrave said about the offences in the cars.
“The offender was in all instances significantly older than the victims.”
The offences
The offences included sexual touching over clothes, skin-on-skin and digital penetration, including one case where he penetrated a victim causing her pain and held her still so she couldn’t get away. Judge Musgrave said that was not an isolated incident.
While alone with one victim the man threatened her saying her parents would die if she told anyone and when she did tell her mother she was told she was telling lies and that she would be beaten.
He also went on to marry one victim and had children with her but after the relationship ended, the children have had little to do with her and continue to support their father. At an earlier hearing a daughter presented information to the court about the challenges her father faced in jail due to his ill health.
The offender’s family, as well as victims and their supporters, were present in court when Judge Musgrave read out the offences in graphic detail for each of the eight charges.
Judge Musgrave said in the first two offences the man was staying with the victim’s family when she was 10 or 11 years old. They were travelling in the back seat of the car, along with her siblings when he put his hand up her dress and indecently assaulted her.
Two of the other victims were sisters with one being aged nine when he put his hand up her dress and assaulted her while she was sitting on his lap.
Her younger sister was also assaulted in a similar manner when she was aged between five and seven sometime between 1977 and 1979.
In 1979 one of the victims was assaulted in the back seat of the car while her parents were in the front seat.
On at least one other occasion a fellow church worker was also in the back seat when an assault took place.
Historic offending
The man, white-haired and wearing prison greens and glasses appeared in court via and audio visual link from jail, where he’s been held since November 16 last year.
“In the 1970s penetration carried a very high penalty,” Judge Musgrave, said adding the maximum term for the most serious offence at that time was life imprisonment.
However, she said the type of offending in this case was not dealt with so seriously in the 1970s so she would follow contemporary views of the issue, which have changed significantly over the decades as more was understood about the life-long trauma experienced by victims.
Victim impact statements presented in an earlier hearing for the case detailed the lifelong harm suffered by children who were sexually abused.
Judge Musgrave said the man’s references said he was respectable member of the community but that was not uncommon when it came to child sexual assault and the man’s position in the church helped him get access to the children.
Victim blaming and no remorse
She said the man has also shown no remorse but instead had demonstrated victim blaming, rationalising and felt wrongly persecuted and has demonstrated no insight into his offending.
“He will find circumstances more onerous than others in the prison population,” Judge Musgrave said after detailing his ongoing medical issues, adding he requires a high level of care.
However, she said general deterrence and denunciation are also required and “the only appropriate penalty is one of imprisonment”.
However, she said his advanced age must be taken into account and was eligible for a 10 per cent discount due to his guilty pleas.
Judge Musgrave gave the man a six-year and three-month full-time jail sentence with a three-year non-parole order.
The sentence was back-dated to when he went into custody on November 16, 2022, and he can be released on parole on November 15, 2025.
Staff reporters
Published 25 August 2023, 07:30 am
Good to know we have the ANZAG16 who have this all under control!
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Post by Mary on Aug 25, 2023 0:11:59 GMT -5
Graphic Content Ex-religious cult worker sentenced for historic child sex offencesStaff reporters Published 25 August 2023, 07:30 am Australia’s legal system is a complex framework of several courts that work together to resolve disputes. The public gallery was full when a former worker from an unidentified religious sect was sentenced for molesting multiple children in the 1970s. The 77-year-old man, who has connections to the region, was sentenced in Orange District Court on Thursday, August 24, for indecent assault against six victims who were under the age of 16 over the course of an eight-year period. The man, who the court was told has shown no remorse, cannot be identified to protect the identity of the victims. Judge Penny Musgrave said the victims ranged from three or four years old to 15 years old, while one was also assaulted when she was 17. File pictureOrange Courthouse where a man has been sentenced for using his role in a religious sect to indecently assault six girls in the 1970s. The court was told the man travelled around the state as part of his role in the religious group and the offences against the children took place in cars and inside the homes of fellow church members. “The children were touched in situations where they were unable to leave and others were present,” Judge Musgrave said about the offences in the cars. “The offender was in all instances significantly older than the victims.” The offences The offences included sexual touching over clothes, skin-on-skin and digital penetration, including one case where he penetrated a victim causing her pain and held her still so she couldn’t get away. Judge Musgrave said that was not an isolated incident. While alone with one victim the man threatened her saying her parents would die if she told anyone and when she did tell her mother she was told she was telling lies and that she would be beaten. He also went on to marry one victim and had children with her but after the relationship ended, the children have had little to do with her and continue to support their father. At an earlier hearing a daughter presented information to the court about the challenges her father faced in jail due to his ill health. The offender’s family, as well as victims and their supporters, were present in court when Judge Musgrave read out the offences in graphic detail for each of the eight charges. Judge Musgrave said in the first two offences the man was staying with the victim’s family when she was 10 or 11 years old. They were travelling in the back seat of the car, along with her siblings when he put his hand up her dress and indecently assaulted her. Two of the other victims were sisters with one being aged nine when he put his hand up her dress and assaulted her while she was sitting on his lap. Her younger sister was also assaulted in a similar manner when she was aged between five and seven sometime between 1977 and 1979. In 1979 one of the victims was assaulted in the back seat of the car while her parents were in the front seat. On at least one other occasion a fellow church worker was also in the back seat when an assault took place. Historic offendingThe man, white-haired and wearing prison greens and glasses appeared in court via and audio visual link from jail, where he’s been held since November 16 last year. “In the 1970s penetration carried a very high penalty,” Judge Musgrave, said adding the maximum term for the most serious offence at that time was life imprisonment. However, she said the type of offending in this case was not dealt with so seriously in the 1970s so she would follow contemporary views of the issue, which have changed significantly over the decades as more was understood about the life-long trauma experienced by victims. Victim impact statements presented in an earlier hearing for the case detailed the lifelong harm suffered by children who were sexually abused. Judge Musgrave said the man’s references said he was respectable member of the community but that was not uncommon when it came to child sexual assault and the man’s position in the church helped him get access to the children. Victim blaming and no remorseShe said the man has also shown no remorse but instead had demonstrated victim blaming, rationalising and felt wrongly persecuted and has demonstrated no insight into his offending. “He will find circumstances more onerous than others in the prison population,” Judge Musgrave said after detailing his ongoing medical issues, adding he requires a high level of care. However, she said general deterrence and denunciation are also required and “the only appropriate penalty is one of imprisonment”. However, she said his advanced age must be taken into account and was eligible for a 10 per cent discount due to his guilty pleas. Judge Musgrave gave the man a six-year and three-month full-time jail sentence with a three-year non-parole order. The sentence was back-dated to when he went into custody on November 16, 2022, and he can be released on parole on November 15, 2025. Staff reporters Published 25 August 2023, 07:30 am Good to know we have the ANZAG16 who have this all under control! When were the ANZAG16 group formed? It takes months if not years for cases to get to court and the 16 seems to be a recent group? The man has been held in jail since November last year so guess that was before ANZAG16 was formed. |
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Post by landdownunder on Aug 25, 2023 0:47:48 GMT -5
A disgusting individual. I'd go so far as to say depraved. And while I don't know his name, clearly a former worker in NSW.
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Post by landdownunder on Aug 25, 2023 0:52:48 GMT -5
When were the ANZAG16 group formed? It takes months if not years for cases to get to court and the 16 seems to be a recent group? The man has been held in jail since November last year so guess that was before ANZAG16 was formed. Yes none of this (except this latest court hearing) occurred on ANZAG16's watch. But they will be dealing with the aftermath - support (practical, financial, spiritual) for the victims, and the culture among the workers and friends in NSW that allowed this dreadful situation. Clearly the faults, then and now, are systemic. |
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Post by lemonade on Aug 25, 2023 2:42:24 GMT -5
Nobody is allowed to comment on this case - by law. It has nothing to do with any groups started since Dean Bruer died.
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Post by landdownunder on Aug 25, 2023 3:59:41 GMT -5
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 25, 2023 15:07:10 GMT -5
Nobody is allowed to comment on this case - by law. It has nothing to do with any groups started since Dean Bruer died. It would appear that he has name suppression. Name suppression is only applicable in the country where it is granted. All other comments are allowed. Here is a media report on this crude and vulgar creep's trial. Ex-religious cult worker sentenced for historic child sex offences Staff reporters Published 25 August 2023, 07:30 am Australia’s legal system is a complex framework of several courts that work together to resolve disputes. The public gallery was full when a former worker from an unidentified religious sect was sentenced for molesting multiple children in the 1970s. The 77-year-old man, who has connections to the region, was sentenced in Orange District Court on Thursday, August 24, for indecent assault against six victims who were under the age of 16 over the course of an eight-year period. The man, who the court was told has shown no remorse, cannot be identified to protect the identity of the victims. Judge Penny Musgrave said the victims ranged from three or four years old to 15 years old, while one was also assaulted when she was 17. File picture Orange Courthouse where a man has been sentenced for using his role in a religious sect to indecently assault six girls in the 1970s. The court was told the man travelled around the state as part of his role in the religious group and the offences against the children took place in cars and inside the homes of fellow church members. “The children were touched in situations where they were unable to leave and others were present,” Judge Musgrave said about the offences in the cars. “The offender was in all instances significantly older than the victims.” The offences The offences included sexual touching over clothes, skin-on-skin and digital penetration, including one case where he penetrated a victim causing her pain and held her still so she couldn’t get away. Judge Musgrave said that was not an isolated incident. While alone with one victim the man threatened her saying her parents would die if she told anyone and when she did tell her mother she was told she was telling lies and that she would be beaten. He also went on to marry one victim and had children with her but after the relationship ended, the children have had little to do with her and continue to support their father. At an earlier hearing a daughter presented information to the court about the challenges her father faced in jail due to his ill health. The offender’s family, as well as victims and their supporters, were present in court when Judge Musgrave read out the offences in graphic detail for each of the eight charges. Judge Musgrave said in the first two offences the man was staying with the victim’s family when she was 10 or 11 years old. They were travelling in the back seat of the car, along with her siblings when he put his hand up her dress and indecently assaulted her. Two of the other victims were sisters with one being aged nine when he put his hand up her dress and assaulted her while she was sitting on his lap. Her younger sister was also assaulted in a similar manner when she was aged between five and seven sometime between 1977 and 1979. In 1979 one of the victims was assaulted in the back seat of the car while her parents were in the front seat. On at least one other occasion a fellow church worker was also in the back seat when an assault took place. Historic offending The man, white-haired and wearing prison greens and glasses appeared in court via and audio visual link from jail, where he’s been held since November 16 last year. “In the 1970s penetration carried a very high penalty,” Judge Musgrave, said adding the maximum term for the most serious offence at that time was life imprisonment. However, she said the type of offending in this case was not dealt with so seriously in the 1970s so she would follow contemporary views of the issue, which have changed significantly over the decades as more was understood about the life-long trauma experienced by victims. Victim impact statements presented in an earlier hearing for the case detailed the lifelong harm suffered by children who were sexually abused. Judge Musgrave said the man’s references said he was respectable member of the community but that was not uncommon when it came to child sexual assault and the man’s position in the church helped him get access to the children. Victim blaming and no remorse She said the man has also shown no remorse but instead had demonstrated victim blaming, rationalising and felt wrongly persecuted and has demonstrated no insight into his offending. “He will find circumstances more onerous than others in the prison population,” Judge Musgrave said after detailing his ongoing medical issues, adding he requires a high level of care. However, she said general deterrence and denunciation are also required and “the only appropriate penalty is one of imprisonment”. However, she said his advanced age must be taken into account and was eligible for a 10 per cent discount due to his guilty pleas. Judge Musgrave gave the man a six-year and three-month full-time jail sentence with a three-year non-parole order. The sentence was back-dated to when he went into custody on November 16, 2022, and he can be released on parole on November 15, 2025. Staff reporters Published 25 August 2023, 07:30 am |
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Post by lemonade on Aug 25, 2023 16:43:37 GMT -5
Please have respect for the victims. This is still very raw and it is retraumatising to have the story splashed across social media.
As far as another country being able to publish anything - the police can investigate and they will prosecute the person from Australia who made it known.
Again, if you genuinely empathise with the victims you will not comment.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 25, 2023 18:03:15 GMT -5
Please have respect for the victims. This is still very raw and it is retraumatising to have the story splashed across social media. As far as another country being able to publish anything - the police can investigate and they will prosecute the person from Australia who made it known. Again, if you genuinely empathise with the victims you will not comment. It is already in the media. It is only his name that is suppressed. I have empathy for the victims who are not named. Police cannot prosecute an offence across boundaries. I suspect you are on here to attempt to hush this up and to protect the creep worker who is now in jail. I know that some of the friends in the area are not happy with the verdict and still support this man. Are you one of them? |
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Post by landdownunder on Aug 25, 2023 18:53:13 GMT -5
Please have respect for the victims. This is still very raw and it is retraumatising to have the story splashed across social media. As far as another country being able to publish anything - the police can investigate and they will prosecute the person from Australia who made it known. Again, if you genuinely empathise with the victims you will not comment. It is already in the media. It is only his name that is suppressed. I have empathy for the victims who are not named. Police cannot prosecute an offence across boundaries. I suspect you are on here to attempt to hush this up and to protect the creep worker who is now in jail. I know that some of the friends in the area are not happy with the verdict and still support this man. Are you one of them? I don't know lemonade but I do understand that the multiple victim/survivors in this case, which I regard as evil personified, have had an incredibly hard and traumatic journey to reach this stage. They very strongly wish for privacy so they can have the very best chance of healing and to pick up their lives again. We need to respect that, and I feel that is why lemonade is advocating this point on behalf of these brave victim/survivors. That is not to say that the system that has allowed this evil behaviour to flourish should not be called out, and held to account! |
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Post by landdownunder on Aug 25, 2023 18:57:15 GMT -5
Police cannot prosecute an offence across boundaries. US? Assange? |
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