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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 16:32:29 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 22, 2017 18:03:23 GMT -5
Didn't you just love the way that he had a "captive" audience at bus stops?
Now if he were yelling about something else at that "captive" audience, -he could have been arrested for breach of the peace, ( disturbing the peace)
He certainly would have been "disturbing" MY peace!"
I could have been trying to read a book or organizing my day or tired from my work day and just wanting to be with my own thoughts!
They are such an invasion of one's privacy!
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Post by snow on Jul 23, 2017 13:25:14 GMT -5
Didn't you just love the way that he had a "captive" audience at bus stops?
Now if he were yelling about something else at that "captive" audience, -he could have been arrested for breach of the peace, ( disturbing the peace)
He certainly would have been "disturbing" MY peace!"
I could have been trying to read a book or organizing my day or tired from my work day and just wanting to be with my own thoughts!
They are such an invasion of one's privacy!
Yes can you imagine the outcry if an atheist stood there and told everyone they were stupid and there is no such thing as a God! You'd probably get beat up and/or shot! |
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Post by Proof on Jul 23, 2017 15:56:43 GMT -5
Didn't you just love the way that he had a "captive" audience at bus stops?
Now if he were yelling about something else at that "captive" audience, -he could have been arrested for breach of the peace, ( disturbing the peace)
He certainly would have been "disturbing" MY peace!"
I could have been trying to read a book or organizing my day or tired from my work day and just wanting to be with my own thoughts!
They are such an invasion of one's privacy!
Yes can you imagine the outcry if an atheist stood there and told everyone they were stupid and there is no such thing as a God! You'd probably get beat up and/or shot! If you make the claim, where is your proof?? |
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Post by xna on Jul 23, 2017 16:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Jul 24, 2017 11:50:12 GMT -5
Yes can you imagine the outcry if an atheist stood there and told everyone they were stupid and there is no such thing as a God! You'd probably get beat up and/or shot! If you make the claim, where is your proof?? I have just as much proof as you do. However, there is no need for prove that something 'doesn't' exist. Proof is required to prove something does exist. |
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Post by absolute on Jul 24, 2017 18:57:42 GMT -5
If you make the claim, where is your proof?? I have just as much proof as you do. However, there is no need for prove that something 'doesn't' exist. Proof is required to prove something does exist. Hmmm, then you have faith that what you believe is true??? 😉 ✌️ |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 19:04:21 GMT -5
Sister worker Sue Fantini preached in Communist China. She said that despite the atheistic system, people still feel a need for God.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 19:13:00 GMT -5
Some of your more famous street preachers are Jesse Morrell, Kerrigan Skelly, John McGlone, Portland street preachers...Do a you tube search and there are tons of videos. Some of their preaching style is in your face, offensive, provocative and yet more scriptural than your more liberal ministers. They may call people ladys, tell them they are going to hell etc.. They believe the church should leave the 4 walls and interact with people...they go to bars, ball games, and especially campuses. They have been cursed at by youths on campus.
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Post by snow on Jul 25, 2017 13:03:17 GMT -5
I have just as much proof as you do. However, there is no need for prove that something 'doesn't' exist. Proof is required to prove something does exist. Hmmm, then you have faith that what you believe is true??? 😉 ✌️ No, I trust that what is known today will very possibly be found to be wrong and as we learn, research and explore our world it will bring us closer to understanding it. The wonderful part of being an atheist is that I can change what I have learned when I find out that it's not accurate and new findings are more accurate. Theists have to believe what their sacred book says no matter that it is so outdated that it isn't even relevant anymore and it takes a lot of faith to believe in the impossibilities it has in it. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 25, 2017 13:18:24 GMT -5
Yes can you imagine the outcry if an atheist stood there and told everyone they were stupid and there is no such thing as a God! You'd probably get beat up and/or shot! If you make the claim, where is your proof?? It's usually reported in the newspapers. |
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Post by jetmech on Jul 25, 2017 19:25:10 GMT -5
I like this minister much better than Kenneth Copeland and Joyce Meyer, and Joel Olsteen. Ha!
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Post by rational on Jul 25, 2017 22:20:12 GMT -5
You don't find some of his doctrine to be heretical? |
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 25, 2017 22:33:06 GMT -5
Yes can you imagine the outcry if an atheist stood there and told everyone they were stupid and there is no such thing as a God! You'd probably get beat up and/or shot! If you make the claim, where is your proof??
Isn't it about infringing your belief usually quite loudly to a "captive audience?" |
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Post by absolute on Jul 25, 2017 23:14:07 GMT -5
If you make the claim, where is your proof??
Isn't it about infringing your belief usually quite loudly to a "captive audience?" shame on them!! |
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Post by hmmmm on Jul 25, 2017 23:39:25 GMT -5
Hmmm, then you have faith that what you believe is true??? 😉 ✌️ No, I trust that what is known today will very possibly be found to be wrong and as we learn, ...... Theists have to believe what their sacred book says no matter that it is so outdated that it isn't even relevant anymore and it takes a lot of faith to believe in the impossibilities it has in it. [ There are at least 3 distinct reasons for understanding what is written? 1. For instruction To understand what may have happened years ago. 2. For correction Help us understand parables, on purpose of living and dying. 3. For inspiration To help us be inspired to put our best into this life !!!! It's all good, in my opinion. ✌️ |
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 26, 2017 0:45:58 GMT -5
That is hardly the point, is it?
Isn't it about infringing your belief usually quite loudly to a "captive audience?" shame on them!!
Yes! shame on them! I firmly believe in freedom of speech in the "public square" but if I am at a bus stop waiting for a bus and can't just up & leave, someone's "free speech" yelled in my ear is a disturbance of MY peace. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 26, 2017 0:49:56 GMT -5
No, I trust that what is known today will very possibly be found to be wrong and as we learn, ...... Theists have to believe what their sacred book says no matter that it is so outdated that it isn't even relevant anymore and it takes a lot of faith to believe in the impossibilities it has in it. There are at least 3 distinct reasons for understanding what is written? 1. For instruction To understand what may have happened years ago. 2. For correction Help us understand parables, on purpose of living and dying. 3. For inspiration To help us be inspired to put our best into this life !!!! It's all good, in my opinion. ✌️ |
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Post by Hmmm on Jul 26, 2017 6:20:05 GMT -5
There are at least 3 distinct reasons for understanding what is written? 1. For instruction To understand what may have happened years ago. 2. For correction Help us understand parables, on purpose of living and dying. 3. For inspiration To help us be inspired to put our best into this life !!!! It's all good, in my opinion. ✌️ it isn't. 🙂 It's all good 👌 |
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Post by abolute on Jul 26, 2017 6:22:43 GMT -5
Yes! shame on them! I firmly believe in freedom of speech in the "public square" but if I am at a bus stop waiting for a bus and can't just up & leave, someone's "free speech" yelled in my ear is a disturbance of MY peace.I might put them on " ignore" , just to be safe! 😉 |
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Post by rational on Jul 26, 2017 8:01:40 GMT -5
But if what is "written" is in error, isn't it all useless and perhaps even dangerous? it isn't. 🙂 It's all good 👌 Could this belief be the danger? There are those who believe that a disrespectful child should be stoned to death. Because it is written... |
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Post by Hmmm on Jul 26, 2017 8:23:08 GMT -5
it isn't. 🙂 It's all good 👌 Could this belief be the danger? There are those who believe that a disrespectful child should be stoned to death. Because it is written... Who inspired the law and for what purpose? We now know who is intitled to throw the first stone. right?? Perhaps we consult the most knowledgeable of "Rabis" ? ✌️ |
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Post by Hmmm on Jul 26, 2017 8:25:37 GMT -5
perhaps they "should" raise children that they
would not stone??
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Post by Hmmm again on Jul 26, 2017 8:36:04 GMT -5
There is the reason the old covenant was finally abandoned?
Old Testament/ Old Law ....fwiw
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Post by snow on Jul 26, 2017 13:09:16 GMT -5
But if what is "written" is in error, isn't it all useless and perhaps even dangerous? it isn't. 🙂 It's all good 👌 The bible is one of the most immoral books written in many ways. Have you read the OT? You don't learn how to be moral from that God. So no, it's not all 'good'. It's also dangerous because it teaches division and prejudice. Many people say that they were told not to judge others but theists do judge just about everything. If you don't believe in the same thing as someone else then you judge them to be unsaved and wrong. |
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Post by snow on Jul 26, 2017 13:12:44 GMT -5
There is the reason the old covenant was finally abandoned? Old Testament/ Old Law ....fwiw It was abandoned when humanity evolved morally and passed the God of the OT in their new ideas of what was moral and not. That is the biggest proof that the bible was written over time by men who changed their thinking over the centuries about what was moral and what wasn't. But if God is the same in the past, today and the future then how would the God of the OT be different now? Why would the old covenant be abandoned if God's word never changes? Makes no sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 13:17:09 GMT -5
There is the reason the old covenant was finally abandoned? Old Testament/ Old Law ....fwiw It was abandoned when humanity evolved morally and passed the God of the OT in their new ideas of what was moral and not. That is the biggest proof that the bible was written over time by men who changed their thinking over the centuries about what was moral and what wasn't. But if God is the same in the past, today and the future then how would the God of the OT be different now? Why would the old covenant be abandoned if God's word never changes? Makes no sense. cause the old covenant could only bring you to Christ, then a new covenant takes you on from there... |
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Post by snow on Jul 26, 2017 13:35:25 GMT -5
It was abandoned when humanity evolved morally and passed the God of the OT in their new ideas of what was moral and not. That is the biggest proof that the bible was written over time by men who changed their thinking over the centuries about what was moral and what wasn't. But if God is the same in the past, today and the future then how would the God of the OT be different now? Why would the old covenant be abandoned if God's word never changes? Makes no sense. cause the old covenant could only bring you to Christ, then a new covenant takes you on from there... Well it failed to do that in my case. The OT/old covenant is what made me question everything about belief in God and I found I couldn't ever worship a God like is portrayed in the OT. That God was/is a monster imo. A God's creation should not be able to be more morally evolved then their God and that's exactly what happened as humanity grew and evolved. The OT God needed to be ditched and a kinder gentler version needed to take it's place or they were going to lose their members/believers. |
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