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Post by friend on May 10, 2018 7:20:24 GMT -5
I have just been out to a friends. There was an elderly Jewish woman there who could not tell me how two penguins, a male and a female got from the Antarctic or NZ or the southern coast of Australia or South America or South Africa to the middle east to board Noah" ark. They did this and the return journey without leaving any fossil trace whatsoever. The same can be said for the Polar Bear and the wolverine. The Great White shark and the Boa. I wonder at why people can be so set on their beliefs and refuse to believe what science tells them. Yet when faced with an illness they are off to the doctors in a flash to be prescribed the latest in medicine, courtesy of science. Was she a descendant if Noah’s son Shem ? Or was she from another country? 😉 |
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Post by rational on May 10, 2018 8:37:26 GMT -5
The reason that you can't answer the question is that you have forgotten your original statement: Here it is:
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Ok, briefly, bacteria have many expressed types that during an infection/ are often successfully
fought off by a healthy immune system...
in in case of treating with a specific antibiotic, our
body recognizes the invading bacteria, and it
is helped overcome by the medical supplement
that treats the targeted bacteria, the minority
bacteria survive even though they are no longer
a threat to our immune system.
If these ”minor strains” are stirred up to attack
again, they are not affected by the previous
treatment of antibiotics, because they are a
different type....
They did not “evolve” , they came from the same
bacterial infection ... they were just hibernated by
nature.
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Here was Rational's question to you:
"How do you explain the way antibiotics work outside of a living body and without an immune system?"
You are unable to answer the question because all your talk about how the antibiotics work and the immune system was a jumbled bunch of words without any meaning.
Antibiotics don't NEED the immune system in order to work!
Antibiotics will kill the bacteria in petri dishes! In fact that is the way that they were first discovered.
"1928 that the very first antibiotic was discovered -- accidentally, at that -- when researcher Alexander Fleming came back to work
after a weekend away from his lab and found a certain type of mold, Penicillium notatum, had halted the growth of Staphylococcus (staph -- a bacteria that can cause skin infections, pneumonia and some food-borne illness, among other infections) in his petri dishes. And not only did it kill Staphylococcus, it also worked when he tried it against other bacteria, including Streptococcus, Meningococcus and Diphtheria bacillus.
I am only interested in how there are many bacteria’s that NEED to survive , even as you ingest Antibiotics 🤧 More BS to avoid answering. |
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Post by rational on May 10, 2018 8:38:49 GMT -5
Not sure. What the point of the question was? Killing bacteria in a lab , is far safer than ingesting it (drug) Many human side effects can cause serious problems even fatel in extreme cases More BS but still no answer to the question. |
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Post by rational on May 10, 2018 8:40:20 GMT -5
The reason that you can't answer the question is that you have forgotten your original statement: Here it is:
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Ok, briefly, bacteria have many expressed types that during an infection/ are often successfully
fought off by a healthy immune system...
in in case of treating with a specific antibiotic, our
body recognizes the invading bacteria, and it
is helped overcome by the medical supplement
that treats the targeted bacteria, the minority
bacteria survive even though they are no longer
a threat to our immune system.
If these ”minor strains” are stirred up to attack
again, they are not affected by the previous
treatment of antibiotics, because they are a
different type....
They did not “evolve” , they came from the same
bacterial infection ... they were just hibernated by
nature.
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Here was Rational's question to you:
"How do you explain the way antibiotics work outside of a living body and without an immune system?"
You are unable to answer the question because all your talk about how the antibiotics work and the immune system was a jumbled bunch of words without any meaning.
Antibiotics don't NEED the immune system in order to work!
Antibiotics will kill the bacteria in petri dishes! In fact that is the way that they were first discovered.
"1928 that the very first antibiotic was discovered -- accidentally, at that -- when researcher Alexander Fleming came back to work
after a weekend away from his lab and found a certain type of mold, Penicillium notatum, had halted the growth of Staphylococcus (staph -- a bacteria that can cause skin infections, pneumonia and some food-borne illness, among other infections) in his petri dishes. And not only did it kill Staphylococcus, it also worked when he tried it against other bacteria, including Streptococcus, Meningococcus and Diphtheria bacillus.
I am only interested in how there are many bacteria’s that NEED to survive , even as you ingest Antibiotics 🤧 More BS but still no answer. |
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Post by rational on May 10, 2018 8:45:06 GMT -5
Since the unregistered poster is clearly not interested in discussion I think I will let just let the BS stand unanswered for awhile and hope people reading understand the source.
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Post by friend on May 10, 2018 9:43:17 GMT -5
Since the unregistered poster is clearly not interested in discussion I think I will let just let the BS stand unanswered for awhile and hope people reading understand the source. It seemed like Dmmchg did try to interpret your question? maybe you asked an unanswerable question? Could you or someone you know find an answer that satisfies ? 🤥🤧👀mmmmmmm! Ok,? |
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Post by friend on May 10, 2018 9:48:45 GMT -5
So you ask a question, and yet you haven’t provided
the answers? Good one!! 👏
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Post by friend on May 10, 2018 10:08:37 GMT -5
I am only interested in how there are many bacteria’s that NEED to survive , even as you ingest Antibiotics 🤧 More BS to avoid answering. We need some bacterias to be healthy, etc. youtu.be/3zquLIIvPik |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 11:11:11 GMT -5
I have just been out to a friends. There was an elderly Jewish woman there who could not tell me how two penguins, a male and a female got from the Antarctic or NZ or the southern coast of Australia or South America or South Africa to the middle east to board Noah" ark. They did this and the return journey without leaving any fossil trace whatsoever. The same can be said for the Polar Bear and the wolverine. The Great White shark and the Boa. I wonder at why people can be so set on their beliefs and refuse to believe what science tells them. Yet when faced with an illness they are off to the doctors in a flash to be prescribed the latest in medicine, courtesy of science. If there is a God(there is)don't you think he could transport them there without a trace? |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 10, 2018 13:15:06 GMT -5
I have just been out to a friends. There was an elderly Jewish woman there who could not tell me how two penguins, a male and a female got from the Antarctic or NZ or the southern coast of Australia or South America or South Africa to the middle east to board Noah" ark. They did this and the return journey without leaving any fossil trace whatsoever. The same can be said for the Polar Bear and the wolverine. The Great White shark and the Boa. I wonder at why people can be so set on their beliefs and refuse to believe what science tells them. Yet when faced with an illness they are off to the doctors in a flash to be prescribed the latest in medicine, courtesy of science. If there is a God(there is)don't you think he could transport them there without a trace? Has your magician lost his touch lately? |
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Post by friend on May 10, 2018 17:22:46 GMT -5
If there is a God(there is)don't you think he could transport them there without a trace? Has your magician lost his touch lately? no, why do you ask? |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 11, 2018 1:47:41 GMT -5
Has your magician lost his touch lately? no, why do you ask? Tell me some of the amazing acts he has done then in say the last hundred years. |
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Post by friend on May 11, 2018 2:45:51 GMT -5
Tell me some of the amazing acts he has done then in say the last hundred years. Millions and millions , every natural cycle and laws are depending on its constant renewal every hour by hour . God isn’t an egotist. He does what He does , and it rains on the good and bad ( places and things.) “New each morning , are His mercies, and His faithfulness so true” Provides us with the provisions for us to enjoy 😊 |
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Post by friend on May 11, 2018 2:53:31 GMT -5
and now we can discuss the book of Job?
Hmmm 🤐
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Post by friend on May 11, 2018 14:20:32 GMT -5
I am only interested in how there are many bacteria’s that NEED to survive , even as you ingest Antibiotics 🤧 More BS to avoid answering. hey, discussing the concepts doesn’t mean We know the answers? It seems to be a process to find what works and doesn’t work. If the process of killing the strain of bacteria was simple, then wouldn’t that process work no matter which bacteria you are treating To kill bacteria in a sterile facility, all you need is bleaching. But that is fatal to human immune system So we look for a vehicle that kills some bacteria (as Per experience , antibiotics don’t kill the resistant bacterias.. Then you need to find an antibiotic that works against the strain you can’t treat? humans become the guinea pig 🐷!! Unless we can find a universal antibiotic, as nature Provides with “garlic” , it is a boost to the immune System!! |
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Post by friend on May 15, 2018 3:38:36 GMT -5
More BS to avoid answering. hey, discussing the concepts doesn’t mean We know the answers? It seems to be a process to find what works and doesn’t work. If the process of killing the strain of bacteria was simple, then wouldn’t that process work no matter which bacteria you are treating To kill bacteria in a sterile facility, all you need is bleaching. But that is fatal to human immune system So we look for a vehicle that kills some bacteria (as Per experience , antibiotics don’t kill the resistant bacterias.. Then you need to find an antibiotic that works against the strain you can’t treat? humans become the guinea pig 🐷!! Unless we can find a universal antibiotic, as nature Provides with “garlic” , it is a boost to the immune System!! The best antibiotic in the world, NO side effects youtu.be/SUKd2tMh9KM |
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Post by friend on May 15, 2018 19:02:59 GMT -5
this is a good instructional lecture by a person that I find quite interesting. IMO youtu.be/3nvGCLzDSRYthanks .. 🙂🙂 |
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Post by friend on May 15, 2018 19:08:53 GMT -5
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Post by friend on May 16, 2018 15:52:57 GMT -5
there seems to be an element in garlic , that makes it super natural for the time it isn’t tampered with (cutting the clove with a knife) once cut active ingredients are very volatile and need to be eaten ASAP a large study on the on the ancient history and bennifits of garlic (as antibacterial, anti viral, anti fungal treatment): Iranian Journal of Basic Medical Science its quite an extensive study, and easy to see that the studies are worthy of a good promotion 🙂 |
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Post by friend on May 18, 2018 2:44:21 GMT -5
This has become a totally enlightening discussion ..(?) And this lecturer (see vid above). Is beginning to make a lot Of common sense. His studies have went in the study of why there are Millions of bacteria in our immune system (70+% of our Immune system is in our digestive system) (I didn’t know that 🤷♂️). But it makes a lot of sense When you consider it. 🙂 Then we learn that when we have a stressed tissue (my term for the lack of ease syndrome/(dis-ease) ). Then the bacteria’s migrate to these tissue and perform “clean-up” duty .. So, in other words the bacteria are NOT the cause of the “disease” but are the necessary method of cleaning up the dead tissue. (Sort of the “chicken/egg” analogy) As our immune system is strengthened , by proper treatments, the ailing tissue is replaced:/. by new tissues and the dead matter is sloughed off via natural waste disposal mechanisms that we have in our Wonderfully made system! IMO. 🙂 |
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Post by friend on May 18, 2018 2:52:42 GMT -5
This has become a totally enlightening discussion ..(?) And this lecturer (see vid above). Is beginning to make a lot Of common sense. His studies have went in the study of why there are Millions of bacteria in our immune system (70+% of our Immune system is in our digestive system) (I didn’t know that 🤷♂️). But it makes a lot of sense When you consider it. 🙂 Then we learn that when we have a stressed tissue (my term for the lack of ease syndrome/(dis-ease) ). Then the bacteria’s migrate to these tissue and perform “clean-up” duty .. So, in other words the bacteria are NOT the cause of the “disease” but are the necessary method of cleaning up the dead tissue. (Sort of the “chicken/egg” analogy) As our immune system is strengthened , by proper treatments, the ailing tissue is replaced:/. by new tissues and the dead matter is sloughed off via natural waste disposal mechanisms that we have in our Wonderfully made system! IMO. 🙂 In my opinion, garlic should be classified as an immune booster, as it does help get rid of the migration of bacteria to the compromised tissue, but it doesn’t seem to affect the digestion process like “antibiotics” do (by killing our bacteria’s). I think this analysis is a super way of understanding how bacteria really do function and are vital to our immune system!! 🙂 |
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Post by friend on May 18, 2018 2:56:33 GMT -5
The vid is a very good tutatotorial!? (Instruction manual)
Thanks..
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Post by friend on May 18, 2018 9:22:05 GMT -5
along the same analysis, we can discover the causes of 97% of our known diseases... imo youtu.be/p3V3TITSDxcInteresting.👀 |
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Post by friend on May 18, 2018 16:42:51 GMT -5
so that’s where we came from, imo
😉. eh?
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Post by friend on May 23, 2018 3:56:09 GMT -5
along the same analysis, we can discover the causes of 97% of our known diseases... imo youtu.be/p3V3TITSDxcInteresting.👀 Our body material parts , can be excessively strrssed and dis-eased , but if our mind can properly analyze its condition, we can be/will be on the road to recovery. interesting analysis that our material bodies are totally dependant on a consciousness that cannot be seen to keep itself “healthy” yet it it is only useful to our body? , if we really understand the way we are designed! imo. 🤦🏻♂️ |
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Post by friend on May 23, 2018 4:14:09 GMT -5
😉
and the most illogical of all humanity
knows that a design is necessary to
achieve an intended purpose!
there is no such “coincidence “ that
something can “appear to be designed”
it either IS or isn’t! (as the only separation
would be a reason to “appear designed” )
(( and the only caviate would be if at some
point ..., the actual design and the apparent design
would be distinguishable from itself) and
we know this isn’t the situation we live in! Thankfully!!! 🤦🏻♂️
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Post by https: on Jul 6, 2018 5:20:41 GMT -5
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Post by Transcendental. on Jul 8, 2018 12:15:37 GMT -5
Big concept, big word
Ok, pi is considered a/the transcendental number
as it it more than a “number” , it is a critical ratio
of the circumference and diameter of a circle ⭕️,
and to be accurate the circle would need to be a
perfect circle for obvious logical reasons.
But , knowing of the concepts of transcendentalisms,
it is accepted by many believers that our God is
Transcendental. And hHis thoughts do in fact
transcend our human thought by a large/infinite
“reception” . And biblical thought does well to
bring these truths to light . “His thoughts are as far above
our thoughts as the heavens are above the earth”
And yes, it is true, as He created us, so we could learn
about His nature and mannerisms, and we could
have a meaningful, conversation, relationship,
TRUST, in Him, who as our creator, creates trust .
Surely we humans. as the created, would learn and obey
And have fellowship with this divine Planner?
Why do humans “fail “ to recognize the privilege we
have to learn, and obey......hmmmmm🤔
More about transcendental studies ...soon..... i can’t wait to explore it!
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