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Post by friend on May 7, 2018 17:16:50 GMT -5
on a scale of 1-10 , the smartest chimps can’t reason
as well as the smartest humans....
(as much as we want them to be our kissing cousins,
nothing could be identifiable as similarities)
It’s hard to image even wanting to invent a “missing link/gap”
Far, far, too many missing links, imo,
nevertheless, there is a sad dumbing down of humanity,
and someday, there may be similarities, that might be
quite scareyyy , imho! 🤦🏻♂️
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Post by snow on May 7, 2018 17:57:37 GMT -5
There is no phenogene (observed) if It is excluded from the inherited DNA. (mutations are no inheritable, imo). Well it is your opinion. However, take bacteria mutations that become resistant to antibiotics and you will find that maybe you would like to change your opinion? |
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Post by friend on May 7, 2018 19:48:26 GMT -5
There is no phenogene (observed) if It is excluded from the inherited DNA. (mutations are no inheritable, imo). Well it is your opinion. However, take bacteria mutations that become resistant to antibiotics and you will find that maybe you would like to change your opinion? Ok, briefly, bacteria have many expressed types that during an infection/ are often successfully fought off by a healthy immune system... in in case of treating with a specific antibiotic, our body recognizes the invading bacteria, and it is helped overcome by the medical supplement that treats the targeted bacteria, the minority bacteria survive even though they are no longer a threat to our immune system. If these ”minor strains” are stirred up to attack again, they are not affected by the previous treatment of antibiotics, because they are a different type.... They did not “evolve” , they came from the same bacterial infection ... they were just hibernated by nature. |
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Post by rational on May 7, 2018 20:17:32 GMT -5
There is no phenogene (observed) if It is excluded from the inherited DNA. (mutations are no inheritable, imo). Your lack of knowledge does not mean it doesn't happen. Consider monogenetic disorders. Off the top of my head there is cystic fibrosis or sickle cell disease. Did you mean to use phenogenetic logic or perhaps phenotype? |
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Post by friend on May 7, 2018 20:40:20 GMT -5
True
(genetic phenotypes) the genes expressed by the life
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Post by friend on May 7, 2018 20:46:49 GMT -5
There is no phenogene (observed) if It is excluded from the inherited DNA. (mutations are no inheritable, imo). Your lack of knowledge does not mean it doesn't happen. Consider monogenetic disorders. Off the top of my head there is cystic fibrosis or sickle cell disease. Did you mean to use phenogenetic logic or perhaps phenotype? Yes, and thanks for agreeing that they are disorders, and as such, have no direct control over their observed Viability, (at worst they are a disgusting disease, that needs to be reasonably eliminated, IMO! ) |
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Post by dmmichgood on May 7, 2018 21:55:36 GMT -5
Well it is your opinion. However, take bacteria mutations that become resistant to antibiotics and you will find that maybe you would like to change your opinion? Ok, briefly, bacteria have many expressed types that during an infection/ are often successfully fought off by a healthy immune system... in in case of treating with a specific antibiotic, our body recognizes the invading bacteria, and it is helped overcome by the medical supplement that treats the targeted bacteria, the minority bacteria survive even though they are no longer a threat to our immune system. If these ”minor strains” are stirred up to attack again, they are not affected by the previous treatment of antibiotics, because they are a different type.... They did not “evolve” , they came from the same
bacterial infection ... they were just hibernated by
nature. |
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Post by rational on May 7, 2018 22:02:07 GMT -5
in in case of treating with a specific antibiotic, our body recognizes the invading bacteria, and it is helped overcome by the medical supplement that treats the targeted bacteria, the minority bacteria survive even though they are no longer a threat to our immune system. Do you have an example of an antibiotic that helps the human immune system recognize the targeted bacteria? How do you explain the way antibiotics work outside of a living body and without an immune system? |
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Post by rational on May 7, 2018 22:06:16 GMT -5
on a scale of 1-10 , the smartest chimps can’t reason as well as the smartest humans.... (as much as we want them to be our kissing cousins, nothing could be identifiable as similarities) It’s hard to image even wanting to invent a “missing link/gap” Far, far, too many missing links, imo, nevertheless, there is a sad dumbing down of humanity, and someday, there may be similarities, that might be quite scareyyy , imho! 🤦🏻♂️ Again, it is only the uninformed who believe there is a missing link between humans and chimpanzees. Humans did not evolve from chimpanzees and chimpanzees did not evolve from humans. Why do you think there should be a link? |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 22:11:03 GMT -5
on a scale of 1-10 , the smartest chimps can’t reason as well as the smartest humans.... (as much as we want them to be our kissing cousins, nothing could be identifiable as similarities) It’s hard to image even wanting to invent a “missing link/gap” Far, far, too many missing links, imo, nevertheless, there is a sad dumbing down of humanity, and someday, there may be similarities, that might be quite scareyyy , imho! 🤦🏻♂️ Again, it is only the uninformed who believe there is a missing link between humans and chimpanzees. Humans did not evolve from chimpanzees and chimpanzees did not evolve from humans. Why do you think there should be a link? according to science they evolved from a common primate ancestor hence the reference to monkeys as an insult.... |
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Post by friend on May 8, 2018 1:18:49 GMT -5
in in case of treating with a specific antibiotic, our body recognizes the invading bacteria, and it is helped overcome by the medical supplement that treats the targeted bacteria, the minority bacteria survive even though they are no longer a threat to our immune system. Do you have an example of an antibiotic that helps the human immune system recognize the targeted bacteria? How do you explain the way antibiotics work outside of a living body and without an immune system? thinking this is self evident, nevertheless, as you Know! antibiotics can not eliminate all strains of bacteria, some do survive (thus the said antibiotic is ineffective. (Not always, but it is possible to) |
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Post by friend on May 8, 2018 1:22:23 GMT -5
If bacteria is feeding on “waste” , we don’t need
to “waste” time killing them with antibiotics. IMO.
🤦🏻♂️
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Post by friend on May 8, 2018 1:31:13 GMT -5
on a scale of 1-10 , the smartest chimps can’t reason as well as the smartest humans.... (as much as we want them to be our kissing cousins, nothing could be identifiable as similarities) It’s hard to image even wanting to invent a “missing link/gap” Far, far, too many missing links, imo, nevertheless, there is a sad dumbing down of humanity, and someday, there may be similarities, that might be quite scareyyy , imho! 🤦🏻♂️ Why do you think there should be a link? [ that you are saying this shows that you don’t believe it either, so why do nazi-darwinists believe this myth No , it’ is an insult to most reasonable human beings to suggest we share a common pre-chimp ansestor with the chimps. How do you think that sounds “better” than to say it was a chimp? Eh? 🤦🏻♂️ ( it actually sounds worse by far, and you are right! There are NO links to support either theories, IMO |
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Post by friend on May 8, 2018 2:09:43 GMT -5
was listening and reading about judicial debates.
there is always a possibility that the convicted felon
did not commit the said felony crime.
It’s impossible to prove guilt beyond a possible doubt!
There will always exist a possibility of innocence ,
BUT the courts determine if this possibility is probable ..
and the verdict is given in favor of the judges finding
“Beyond reasonable doubt (not no doubts)”
As an improbable explanation is usually very unreasonable .
So it is when we are “debating” issues on a forum ,
Absolute Proof is elusive, beyond reasonable doubt
is the best proof of anything outside of mathematical
Formulas and Theorums and postulates.
Hmmm👀
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Post by dmmichgood on May 8, 2018 2:34:59 GMT -5
Do you have an example of an antibiotic that helps the human immune system recognize the targeted bacteria? How do you explain the way antibiotics work outside of a living body and without an immune system? thinking this is self evident, nevertheless, as you Know! antibiotics can not eliminate all strains of bacteria, some do survive (thus the said antibiotic is ineffective. (Not always, but it is possible to)
Why don't you just answer peoples questions instead of just stringing another bunch of words together that make no sense?
That is no way to "debate" anything!
That is why I seldom answer you.
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Post by friend on May 8, 2018 3:21:31 GMT -5
thinking this is self evident, nevertheless, as you Know! antibiotics can not eliminate all strains of bacteria, some do survive (thus the said antibiotic is ineffective. (Not always, but it is possible to)
Why don't you just answer peoples questions instead of just stringing another bunch of words together that make no sense?
That is no way to "debate" anything!
That is why I seldom answer you.
Ok |
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Post by friend on May 8, 2018 3:21:44 GMT -5
thinking this is self evident, nevertheless, as you Know! antibiotics can not eliminate all strains of bacteria, some do survive (thus the said antibiotic is ineffective. (Not always, but it is possible to)
Why don't you just answer peoples questions instead of just stringing another bunch of words together that make no sense?
That is no way to "debate" anything!
That is why I seldom answer you.
Ok |
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Post by friend on May 8, 2018 3:54:28 GMT -5
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 8, 2018 4:16:14 GMT -5
Again, it is only the uninformed who believe there is a missing link between humans and chimpanzees. Humans did not evolve from chimpanzees and chimpanzees did not evolve from humans. Why do you think there should be a link? according to science they evolved from a common primate ancestor hence the reference to monkeys as an insult.... Monkeys are not part of the chimpanzee family. |
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Post by snow on May 8, 2018 10:48:18 GMT -5
Well it is your opinion. However, take bacteria mutations that become resistant to antibiotics and you will find that maybe you would like to change your opinion? Ok, briefly, bacteria have many expressed types that during an infection/ are often successfully fought off by a healthy immune system... in in case of treating with a specific antibiotic, our body recognizes the invading bacteria, and it is helped overcome by the medical supplement that treats the targeted bacteria, the minority bacteria survive even though they are no longer a threat to our immune system. If these ”minor strains” are stirred up to attack again, they are not affected by the previous treatment of antibiotics, because they are a different type.... They did not “evolve” , they came from the same bacterial infection ... they were just hibernated by nature. That shows how little you know about the subject. They do mutate and they do evolve into a stronger more drug resistant bacteria. Just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean that's not what's happening. |
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Post by dmmichgood on May 8, 2018 13:36:39 GMT -5
Why don't you just answer rational's question? "explain the way antibiotics work outside of a living body and without an immune system?
Why don't you just answer peoples questions instead of just stringing another bunch of words together that make no sense?
That is no way to "debate" anything!
That is why I seldom answer you.
Ok   you just verified my statement!
So long, I really don't much care to "discuss" anything with someone who never answers questions.
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Post by rational on May 8, 2018 15:26:39 GMT -5
Do you have an example of an antibiotic that helps the human immune system recognize the targeted bacteria? How do you explain the way antibiotics work outside of a living body and without an immune system? thinking this is self evident, nevertheless, as you Know! antibiotics can not eliminate all strains of bacteria, some do survive (thus the said antibiotic is ineffective. (Not always, but it is possible to) Answer the question of how antibiotics work in the absence of an immune system. |
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Post by rational on May 8, 2018 15:28:13 GMT -5
They did not “evolve” , they came from the same bacterial infection ... they were just hibernated by nature. They have different DNA. How is that not evolving? |
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Post by friend on May 8, 2018 20:23:39 GMT -5
hmmm, this is a place to start this topic: youtu.be/FDZb_eH7NRE👀mmmmmm!)). (<——. That’s a typed phenotype) |
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Post by rational on May 8, 2018 23:50:28 GMT -5
hmmm, this is a place to start this topic: youtu.be/FDZb_eH7NRE👀mmmmmm!)). (<——. That’s a typed phenotype) Good for you. I have always said that a biology 101 course would to to your benefit. |
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Post by friend on May 9, 2018 0:45:51 GMT -5
i see
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Post by friend on May 9, 2018 0:46:08 GMT -5
i see
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Post by friend on May 9, 2018 1:03:43 GMT -5
Good for you. I have always said that a biology 101 course would to to your benefit. your referencing of theories can’t replace the lectures that you continue to ignore? that is your choice, i do not support theories that are based on lies! Thanks |
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you just verified my statement!