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Post by snow on Aug 7, 2015 16:38:35 GMT -5
I suppose that's true if no one believes it's possible. It's up to humans to believe it's possible and then do something to make it happen. It's really that simple. Everyone taking responsibility for themselves being peaceful and loving. We could change the world in an instant if everyone did this. Just takes a shift in how you think. I don't think so. People would have to do with less to provide for others. People do not like doing with less. There is plenty for everyone if the money spent on wars was put into social programs for those who needed them and in the end it probably wouldn't make all that much difference to what people already have. There will always be differences in society, but we can make it more peaceful by living a life that is based more on compassion for others instead of trying to get ahead of everyone else at their expense. People could choose that and change the world very quickly. Do I think it will happen? Maybe. If I don't hold that standard for myself I'm not doing my part. It may never happen, but it certainly won't if I don't change myself and I have no hope. Change comes one person at a time. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 16:40:45 GMT -5
I am aware of that situation Rational. It will never change if we sit back and do nothing. A person in your position can do a lot in helping to break the wall down. It is time for change, and many of your people agree with that.
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Post by fixit on Aug 7, 2015 16:54:50 GMT -5
There is a lot of myth in religion, but it took off. So if you think World peace is only a myth, don't be surprised if it also takes off. Do you see the irony of a statement like yours being posted on a message board where the majority of the members believe in an exclusive religion that, as its stated belief, condemns about 2/ 3 of the humans alive to eternal damnation? How do you overcome statements like "We believe in the only true god - your god is false" and weave that into world piece? I assume you are saying that one third of the world's population belongs to the Christian religion which condemns two thirds of the world's population to eternal damnation? That seems like a sweeping generalisation to me. What does the data reveal? |
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Post by snow on Aug 7, 2015 17:13:37 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Aug 7, 2015 18:37:46 GMT -5
I am aware of that situation Rational. It will never change if we sit back and do nothing. A person in your position can do a lot in helping to break the wall down. It is time for change, and many of your people agree with that. What wall are you talking about? |
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Post by rational on Aug 7, 2015 18:39:36 GMT -5
The cat is well fed. The squirrel doesn't eat cat. |
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Post by rational on Aug 7, 2015 18:57:35 GMT -5
I assume you are saying that one third of the world's population belongs to the Christian religion which condemns two thirds of the world's population to eternal damnation? In round numbers, yes. Why? I guess you can say that christians do not believe that the only way to heaven is as stated by Jesus in the bible. But if you are going to call yourself a christian doesn't it follow that you believe the basic tenets of the religion? Are there christians that do not believe in Jesus? Are there christians that do not believe what Jesus said regarding eternal life? Can they be considered christians? The data shows that when a group is intolerant of the beliefs of those not in the group that peace is a difficult goal. Christianity was just an example. There are many factors that prevent world peace. But then if you could give everyone the same value system it would be a start. Whose value system should be implemented? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 19:06:16 GMT -5
I am aware of that situation Rational. It will never change if we sit back and do nothing. A person in your position can do a lot in helping to break the wall down. It is time for change, and many of your people agree with that. What wall are you talking about? Rational you are a bright intelligent man, you know very well the wall I am talking about, I don't have to explain. In your position you could pick up a hammer and help to knock it down. Just a clue, we get referred to by Workers as "Outsiders". It would be a start for that to go. |
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Post by snow on Aug 7, 2015 19:23:36 GMT -5
The cat is well fed. The squirrel doesn't eat cat. I'm pretty sure my cat would eat the squirrel! |
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Post by rational on Aug 7, 2015 20:34:40 GMT -5
What wall are you talking about? Rational you are a bright intelligent man, you know very well the wall I am talking about, I don't have to explain. In your position you could pick up a hammer and help to knock it down. Just a clue, we get referred to by Workers as "Outsiders". It would be a start for that to go. I rarely post questions if I am certain of the answers. I do not want to guess what you mean and that is why I posed the question. I can think of several metaphors that would be appropriate. I asked for clarification. You have the option to provide an answer or not as you wish. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 21:06:07 GMT -5
Rational, in my day as a 2x2, more than 60 years ago,we were told by the Workers at Convention, to keep up the wall of separation. If you still do that please stop, there is no justification for it. The separation happened in our families, mainly my Mother's. 3 in, 3 out. I am not going to air detail of it here, as it is now History. Just to say it did have a hurtful influence in my life, and perhaps the reason I am not a 2x2 today. You will say I am bitter, not so. Just very disappointed. The wall should never have been there in the first place.
I am not going to get into a slugging match with you over this. Love you, indeed all Workers. Just don't tell people to keep up the wall. I rest my case at that.
Did see a photo of you in a group photo at Portage. You have a great smile, do look like a Worker. Not that it frightens me. You still look warm and cuddly.
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Post by fixit on Aug 7, 2015 21:28:31 GMT -5
Rational, in my day as a 2x2, more than 60 years ago,we were told by the Workers at Convention, to keep up the wall of separation. If you still do that please stop, there is no justification for it. The separation happened in our families, mainly my Mother's. 3 in, 3 out. I am not going to air detail of it here, as it is now History. Just to say it did have a hurtful influence in my life, and perhaps the reason I am not a 2x2 today. You will say I am bitter, not so. Just very disappointed. The wall should never have been there in the first place. This wall came down...  |
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Post by rational on Aug 7, 2015 21:44:15 GMT -5
Rational, in my day as a 2x2, more than 60 years ago,we were told by the Workers at Convention, to keep up the wall of separation. So you feel there is some wall of separation that I have put up? I wonder what would be on either side of that wall.There could well be justification. Would you consider yourself a christian?That sounds like a family issue more than a church issue.I certainly wouldn't say you are bitter. Disillusioned perhaps. And as you say, disappointed. This is going to sound, perhaps, silly but I am not slugging and I am still questioning what wall you are speaking of. This is rather doubtful but still within the realm of probability. Perhaps a starting point would be telling me where/what Portage is.I am smiling and assuming the workers you have in mind are humanoid I suppose given the 7+ billion people in the world there is a chance I look like someone! Yeah. That would be me. Cuddled up with a mess of cats! I can't help wondering is some of the walls you encounter and not your own creations. You seem to leap to conclusions (or perhaps confusions) that, from what I am able to determine, are based on nothing but ideas created by you from whole cloth. And then these constructs become a wall. Perhaps the wall you keep asking me to take down. Again, I ask you - what exactly do you think this wall might be? Your creation or mine? |
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Post by snow on Aug 7, 2015 22:04:03 GMT -5
Rational, in my day as a 2x2, more than 60 years ago,we were told by the Workers at Convention, to keep up the wall of separation. If you still do that please stop, there is no justification for it. The separation happened in our families, mainly my Mother's. 3 in, 3 out. I am not going to air detail of it here, as it is now History. Just to say it did have a hurtful influence in my life, and perhaps the reason I am not a 2x2 today. You will say I am bitter, not so. Just very disappointed. The wall should never have been there in the first place. I am not going to get into a slugging match with you over this. Love you, indeed all Workers. Just don't tell people to keep up the wall. I rest my case at that. Did see a photo of you in a group photo at Portage. You have a great smile, do look like a Worker. Not that it frightens me. You still look warm and cuddly. Is Rational a worker? I thought he was an atheist. |
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Post by hberry on Aug 7, 2015 22:18:14 GMT -5
Rational, in my day as a 2x2, more than 60 years ago,we were told by the Workers at Convention, to keep up the wall of separation. If you still do that please stop, there is no justification for it. The separation happened in our families, mainly my Mother's. 3 in, 3 out. I am not going to air detail of it here, as it is now History. Just to say it did have a hurtful influence in my life, and perhaps the reason I am not a 2x2 today. You will say I am bitter, not so. Just very disappointed. The wall should never have been there in the first place. I am not going to get into a slugging match with you over this. Love you, indeed all Workers. Just don't tell people to keep up the wall. I rest my case at that. Did see a photo of you in a group photo at Portage. You have a great smile, do look like a Worker. Not that it frightens me. You still look warm and cuddly. Is Rational a worker? I thought he was an atheist. He's undercover and now we've outed him. |
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Post by hberry on Aug 7, 2015 22:22:55 GMT -5
The cat is well fed. The squirrel doesn't eat cat. I'm pretty sure my cat would eat the squirrel! My gigantic cat would be terrified of the squirrel. He saw a baby squirrel in the garage last year and wouldn't go back in the garage for weeks. Sigh. Watch cat...sure. |
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Post by hberry on Aug 7, 2015 22:23:34 GMT -5
He's undercover and now we've outed him. If he's a worker, he needs to sell his cats - can't have cats following you around  Sorry - I forgot you love cats. If Rat has the kind in your picture then you definitely wouldn't get too many converts.... Oh they'd convert all right...who'd argue with that guy?! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 23:44:27 GMT -5
Rational if you want to play games, that is fine by me. It is your prerogative, but it will not be at my expense. I have better things to do, go play with somebody else.
I have read a lot about you, and was prepared to keep an open mind, now not so sure. As a Worker, you could be a great asset to TMB, but people don't like being played with as fools. We deserve better than that.
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Post by emy on Aug 8, 2015 0:50:35 GMT -5
Rational if you want to play games, that is fine by me. It is your prerogative, but it will not be at my expense. I have better things to do, go play with somebody else. I have read a lot about you, and was prepared to keep an open mind, now not so sure. As a Worker, you could be a great asset to TMB, but people don't like being played with as fools. We deserve better than that. Let me assure you; Rat is not a worker. He has been here a very long time and has been accused before of being undercover f&w. Not so. His posts and opinions are very consistent and atheistic in tone. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 0:53:35 GMT -5
Thanks Emy, this old guy is more confused than ever. Somebody is playing games. |
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Post by Roselyn T on Aug 8, 2015 1:45:53 GMT -5
I think @redback, meant Review not rational. We are all getting old @redback, |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 1:54:39 GMT -5
Thanks Roselyn, Redback needs to take a Bex and lie down. Apologies to Rational.
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Post by Roselyn T on Aug 8, 2015 2:06:23 GMT -5
Not too many of those Bex's now @redback !
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Post by bubbles on Aug 8, 2015 5:37:41 GMT -5
Rational if you want to play games, that is fine by me. It is your prerogative, but it will not be at my expense. I have better things to do, go play with somebody else. I have read a lot about you, and was prepared to keep an open mind, now not so sure. As a Worker, you could be a great asset to TMB, but people don't like being played with as fools. We deserve better than that. Redback Mate I think you have the wrong fella..but thanks for the giggle. I dont think ratz is in your kneck of the woods. If he was Id skin him alive for not shouting coffee...lol.. I am joking. |
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Post by rational on Aug 8, 2015 9:08:38 GMT -5
This wall came down... In the scheme of things, that wall was trivial. The non-physical walls are harder to identify and take much more time and effort to raze. |
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Post by rational on Aug 8, 2015 9:13:40 GMT -5
Is Rational a worker? I thought he was an atheist. I did too. I wonder if I have been mistaken. I once thought I had made a mistake but I was wrong... |
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Post by rational on Aug 8, 2015 9:16:52 GMT -5
He's undercover and now we've outed him. Thanks a lot, guys. Now it's back to my day job! |
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Post by rational on Aug 8, 2015 9:23:50 GMT -5
He's undercover and now we've outed him. If he's a worker, he needs to sell his cats - can't have cats following you around :) Sorry - I forgot you love cats. :) If Rat has the kind in your picture then you definitely wouldn't get too many converts.... Having a clowder, cluster, clutter, glaring, or pounce of cats (choose your favorite collective noun) following you around would provide the potential of a ready fresh food source. In my opinion, to be a worker thinking outside the box is a requirement. |
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