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Post by matisse on Apr 25, 2015 11:24:32 GMT -5
I never said anything about perverse, that is your word. Obviously, for many people, the end justifies the means. Perverse - synonyms: illogical, irrational, unreasonable, wrong... "Your" words, Jesse: "extremely gross and irrational" |
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Apr 25, 2015 11:40:40 GMT -5
Perverse - synonyms: illogical, irrational, unreasonable, wrong... "Your" words, Jesse: "extremely gross and irrational" I did not choose to use the word perverse, you did. I used gross as a synonym for yuk, not perverse. And I did not use irrational as a synonym of perverse. I used irrational because it is not logical to use an exhaust pipe for an intake. That is not only rational it should be common sense. TMOT makes that clear in the video. You insisting on putting the word perverse in my mouth illustrates the basic problem with the LGBT et al crowd and their cheering sections, they continually and unilaterally shove their beliefs in the face of people - just like you are doing in your posts. |
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Post by matisse on Apr 25, 2015 11:44:33 GMT -5
I did not choose to use the word perverse, you did. I used gross as a synonym for yuk, not perverse. And I did not use irrational as a synonym of perverse. I used it because it is not logical to use an exhaust pipe for an intake. TMOT makes that clear in the video. You insisting on putting the word perverse in my mouth illustrates the basic problem with the LGBT et al crowd and their cheering sections, they continually and unilaterally shove their beliefs in the face of people - just like you are doing in your posts. And you are not shoving your beliefS in mine?! |
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Apr 25, 2015 11:45:28 GMT -5
Yes. Do you like it??
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Apr 25, 2015 11:54:23 GMT -5
People should shut up about most of this stuff. But the LGBTs love to put it out there with as much shock value as they can, just like you are doing in your posts. Shock the backwards stick-in-the-mud 2x2s with "most men don't know what they are missing".
It's not to hard to see what's going on.
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Post by matisse on Apr 25, 2015 11:57:14 GMT -5
It is'nt anything I haven't heard before. Although i believe you have a right to your opinions, I do not consent to your point of view being the only voiced opinion abouT human sexuality. |
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Apr 25, 2015 12:03:33 GMT -5
It is'nt anything I haven't heard before. Although i believe you have a right to your opinions, I do not consent to your point of view being the only voiced opinion abouT human sexuality. Neither do I and many others consent to your oipinion being the only opinion voiced about human sexuality - especially here on TMB. This thread ought to be deleted. |
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Post by matisse on Apr 25, 2015 12:24:49 GMT -5
People should shut up about most of this stuff. But the LGBTs love to put it out there with as much shock value as they can, just like you are doing in your posts. Shock the backwards stick-in-the-mud 2x2s with "most men don't know what they are missing". It's not to hard to see what's going on. Funny thing, they were the words of a straight man. And one with no particular ties to the LGBT community. I do not assume (and I do not speak from experience) that 2x2 men are "backwards sticks in the mud" sexually." |
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Post by matisse on Apr 25, 2015 12:46:29 GMT -5
Perverse - synonyms: illogical, irrational, unreasonable, wrong... "Your" words, Jesse: "extremely gross and irrational" I did not choose to use the word perverse, you did. I used gross as a synonym for yuk, not perverse. And I did not use irrational as a synonym of perverse. I used irrational because it is not logical to use an exhaust pipe for an intake. That is not only rational it should be common sense. TMOT makes that clear in the video. I did not and probably will not watch the video. [post script: I watched the video. TMOT has nothing of substance to say, IMO. He essentially echos your point of view.] That region of the human body has been described as a playground with sewer pipes running through it. Parts of the male anatomy serve both purposes. No? Ok, so you do NOT believe that gay sex is perverse. That's fine by me! |
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Post by rational on Apr 25, 2015 13:41:46 GMT -5
One of the "gateway excuses" (like that? just invented it!) for the legalization of abortion was, "what would you do if your daughter was raped, and now pregnant with the rapist's child?" While that was the straw man presented it was just that - a logical fallacy. I believe 'life of the mother' was the most common exception. And it is not a bad analogy either. Given that marijuana does grow wild just about everywhere banning it is like banning blueberries. And if iy helps people exactly where do you see the problem? Just coming up with a workable definition of pornography indicated that the legal system is out of step. The one definition that was provided on this message board would eliminate the old Sears Catalog. |
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Post by rational on Apr 25, 2015 13:48:39 GMT -5
The rectum and anus are conveniently positioned and sized and make up one of the earliest centers of pleasure in the human body. Sodomy is only "incorrect" if one insists that sex must be about procreation. Sodomy stinks. End of story. Has this been your experience or are you just guessing?The only reason people like you write about this topic is because you believe the urban myth, get some gratification from retelling it, or intend to shock people who do not see it for the myth that it is. Come on Jesse_Lackman, you are above this kind of response. Is sodomy really the only issue you have with homosexuality? |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 25, 2015 14:08:44 GMT -5
One of the "gateway excuses" (like that? just invented it!) for the legalization of abortion was, "what would you do if your daughter was raped, and now pregnant with the rapist's child?" I can't speak for every country or state's abortion laws. I wouldn't be surprised if that excuse was actually on many statute books - along with the medical reasons. I mean, now we have "medicinal marijuana" as an an analogy. Yes, child porn on your hard disk becomes an issue of ownership, not censorship. But we are talking about the true and tried practice of salami slicing contentious issues until they have become neutered. This is probably the reason why the Queen of England never took a stand against divorce as head of the church - it just crept in so slowly, one tiny slice at a time. How could the Queen of England take a stand against divorce as head of the church when the church was founded by King Henry the 8th because of divorce. The Pope would not annul his first marriage so he could remarry, hence the split with Rome. Wiki has this to say. Besides his six marriages, Henry VIII is known for his role in the separation of the Church of England from the Roman Catholic Church. His disagreements with the Pope led to his separation of the Church of England from papal authority, with himself, as king, as the Supreme Head of the Church of England and to the Dissolution of the Monasteries. Because his principal dispute was with papal authority, rather than with doctrinal matters, he remained a believer in core Catholic theological teachings despite his excommunication from the Roman Catholic Church. |
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Apr 25, 2015 14:14:47 GMT -5
Has this been your experience or are you just guessing? This isn't rocket science rational. Have you read any Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn? Not urban myth, the Richard Gere story is but others are not. |
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Apr 25, 2015 14:23:53 GMT -5
Come on Jesse_Lackman, you are above this kind of response. Is sodomy really the only issue you have with homosexuality? Dumb question, continues the stupid theme of the thread though! |
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Post by snow on Apr 25, 2015 14:36:43 GMT -5
A bit different though - apples and oranges. Heterosexual sex involves the "yuk factor" to young minds. Homosexual sex involves a yuk factor and a moral factor. No it does not have a moral factor, not any more than heterosexual sex anyway. Just one more reason why religious beliefs can be so dangerous. A couple of verses in an ancient book written by a small middle eastern tribe and a whole group of people get condemned. |
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Post by snow on Apr 25, 2015 14:42:26 GMT -5
Perverse - synonyms: illogical, irrational, unreasonable, wrong... "Your" words, Jesse: "extremely gross and irrational" I did not choose to use the word perverse, you did. I used gross as a synonym for yuk, not perverse. And I did not use irrational as a synonym of perverse. I used irrational because it is not logical to use an exhaust pipe for an intake. That is not only rational it should be common sense. TMOT makes that clear in the video. You insisting on putting the word perverse in my mouth illustrates the basic problem with the LGBT et al crowd and their cheering sections, they continually and unilaterally shove their beliefs in the face of people - just like you are doing in your posts. You are also stating your beliefs. Matisse hasn't said anything that isn't true, she outlined scientific facts and also said you were allowed your beliefs. She only disagreed with your beliefs and that does not make her in your face. Do people have to agree with you all the time or they are in your face? |
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Post by rational on Apr 25, 2015 15:16:12 GMT -5
Has this been your experience or are you just guessing? This isn't rocket science rational. Have you read any Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn? I have but do not recall him commenting on homosexual relationships. Rape, perhaps, and ritual abuse by priests but not consenting adults engaging in homosexual activity. Do you have a reference? Can you substantiate your claims? |
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Post by rational on Apr 25, 2015 16:48:08 GMT -5
Come on Jesse_Lackman, you are above this kind of response. Is sodomy really the only issue you have with homosexuality? Dumb question, continues the stupid theme of the thread though! It was a serious question. Is sodomy the only issue you have with homosexual relationships? There are homosexual couples that do not engage in sodomy. I am just trying to see where your revulsion is based. |
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Apr 25, 2015 17:05:30 GMT -5
Rational what gives you the idea I have issues with homosexual relationships? That's what makes the question dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:27:08 GMT -5
That's the fashionable thinking, anyway.
It's interesting that this "small middle eastern tribe" is again back
in their homeland - as that mythic book said they would be. And we
Gentiles are now condemned as they were condemned for 2,000 years.
But the issue of what some call the "danger of belief" is that we are
now going through an experiment, since last Century, in "disbelief."
And the world seems a crueler and more violent place because of it.
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Post by rational on Apr 25, 2015 18:54:29 GMT -5
Rational what gives you the idea I have issues with homosexual relationships? That's what makes the question dumb. I have been reading your posts. I didn't say you had a problem with homosexual relationships. I asked: Is sodomy really the only issue you have with homosexuality?You hadn't mentioned anything else but your revulsion regarding sodomy did raise the question so I posed it to you. So you would be OK with some form of frottage or other means of sexual stimulation? |
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Apr 25, 2015 19:09:14 GMT -5
Rational, shut up.
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Post by rational on Apr 25, 2015 19:15:14 GMT -5
Should I take that response to mean you will not be answering the question? I don't want to put words in your mouth. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 9:15:50 GMT -5
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Post by withlove on Apr 28, 2015 0:06:59 GMT -5
* Remember, social change slips in through the back door to avoid shocking the
sensibilities of people with conservative tendencies, ie abortion for "rape cases"
or marijuana for "medicinal reasons" or divorce for "domestic abuse" etc.. Can I ask why you use the quotation marks--is it because you think people lie about being abused or that you think divorce is wrong in domestic abuse cases anyway? |
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Post by fixit on Apr 28, 2015 0:18:05 GMT -5
Remember, social change slips in through the back door to avoid shocking the sensibilities of people with conservative tendencies, ie abortion for "rape cases" or marijuana for "medicinal reasons" or divorce for "domestic abuse" etc.. Isn't this resulting in a fairer society Bert? Abortion frees a woman from a life sentence of mothering the child of her rapist (I'm not advocating it, just sayin'). Divorce frees a woman from a life sentence of enduring domestic abuse and risking her life. I don't know much about marijuana for medicinal purposes but I wonder if you also have a problem with morphine for medicinal purposes? |
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 28, 2015 1:11:14 GMT -5
Dmmichgood, you are old enough to remember when YOU thought homosexual marriage
was repulsive.
Don't tell me what I thought about something!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 3:20:35 GMT -5
Quote - "Isn't this resulting in a fairer society Bert?
Abortion frees a woman from a life sentence of mothering the child of her rapist (I'm not advocating it, just sayin').
Divorce frees a woman from a life sentence of enduring domestic abuse and risking her life.
I don't know much about marijuana for medicinal purposes but I wonder if you also have a problem with morphine for medicinal purposes?"
It might be for the cases similar to the ones you mentioned -
but we aint stopping there, are we?
We abort a child who's father is a rapist - and then everyone
who was never raped can get an abortion, too. And that includes
a few tens of millions of unborn girls.
Solved one problem, creation ten million others.
We save a woman from being abused by her husband, and water
down what marriage means - and then everyone who doesn't have
an abusive spouse can get a quickie divorce. And then there's
the ten of millions of single parent kids struggling against
the odds.
So we legalize a narcotic for "medicinal purposes" (wink wink,
nudge nudge) and tens of millions of people with no medical issues
think its okay to consume narcotics.
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