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Post by quizzer on May 26, 2013 5:35:40 GMT -5
Sharingtheriches...sadly "in the western part of the US"...yes, I know firsthand this sadness. I am D&R and although was/am allowed to come to meetings I can't take part, cannot select a hymn, and am unable to take the emblems. Thankfully, no children are involved. Recently though it was my experience to be visited by the workers in this field which has precipitated the slow, painful, and yet informative demise of my belief in the 2X2 way. During this visit, they brought up my D&R situation and told a story about 3 other women who had been in my same situation who chose to "make it right" and leave their spouses...a 4th woman they planned on having a chat with but found it unnecessary because suddenly the woman's husband died and "God took care of it". Needless to say, my husband has informed me they are no longer welcome in our home. Wait a second, shipwreckedsailor. Are you saying that you were placed in a scenario where you couldn't participate in the meetings, and the workers told others that your inability to participate was because of YOUR shrinking ability to believe? Sounds like irony to me.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 8:27:17 GMT -5
Sharingtheriches...sadly "in the western part of the US"...yes, I know firsthand this sadness. I am D&R and although was/am allowed to come to meetings I can't take part, cannot select a hymn, and am unable to take the emblems. Thankfully, no children are involved. Recently though it was my experience to be visited by the workers in this field which has precipitated the slow, painful, and yet informative demise of my belief in the 2X2 way. During this visit, they brought up my D&R situation and told a story about 3 other women who had been in my same situation who chose to "make it right" and leave their spouses...a 4th woman they planned on having a chat with but found it unnecessary because suddenly the woman's husband died and "God took care of it". Needless to say, my husband has informed me they are no longer welcome in our home. Wait a second, shipwreckedsailor. Are you saying that you were placed in a scenario where you couldn't participate in the meetings, and the workers told others that your inability to participate was because of YOUR shrinking ability to believe? Sounds like irony to me. I think what SWS is saying is that her belief in 2x2ism is undergoing an "informative demise" due to the meeting with the workers who effectively told her to leave her husband. The workers of course are just doing their duty to clean up the way so they will be supported by many. The irony to me is that the workers think that somehow they can clean up anything with such polluted ideas as breaking up families.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 8:34:09 GMT -5
Here is another irony for you quizzer.
In the very same US state, the 2x2 leadership will try to break up happy, functional families over remarriage, but when children are being abused by CSA within the fellowship, they will say "we want nothing to do with that!", while the family breaks down over the issue.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 9:47:47 GMT -5
Here is another irony for you quizzer. In the very same US state, the 2x2 leadership will try to break up happy, functional families over remarriage, but when children are being abused by CSA within the fellowship, they will say "we want nothing to do with that!", while the family breaks down over the issue. Another irony is the mantra in this same US state is 'we want the Spirit to take care of it' when it comes to problems in the fellowship but they don't leave it to 'the Spirit' to take care of the D&R situations.
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Post by shipwreckedsailor on May 26, 2013 10:00:09 GMT -5
Quizzer, I returned to the fellowship 3 years ago but in the 20 years before that while an "outie" I met and married a wonderful man. When I returned, I was told I could not take part, etc. The visit by the workers was just recently. I told them I was leaving my D&R situation up to God, that because my sweet husband did not believe in the fellowship (and now wants nothing to do with it) I needed to have the faith of two people! That is when they told me the above "story". And you are right on hBerry...since man certainly doesn't seem to be able to agree on the D&R issue, IMO it should be left up to those involved and the Holy Spirit. When it comes to abuse (whether it be to children or adults) that should definitely be addressed and the law should be involved (again IMO)!
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Post by blandie on May 26, 2013 16:00:43 GMT -5
Wonder if there is a connection in the similar practices in Scientology and 2x2s. They sure both share the secrecy thing with the Masonics. I seem to remember that 'secrecy' is what the word occult means -- I'll have to look it up.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 21:34:55 GMT -5
"informative demise" Now that's a great quote.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 21:38:39 GMT -5
"informative demise" Now that's a great quote.
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Post by dmmichgood on May 26, 2013 23:54:18 GMT -5
Quizzer, I returned to the fellowship 3 years ago but in the 20 years before that while an "outie" I met and married a wonderful man. When I returned, I was told I could not take part, etc. The visit by the workers was just recently. I told them I was leaving my D&R situation up to God, that because my sweet husband did not believe in the fellowship (and now wants nothing to do with it) I needed to have the faith of two people! That is when they told me the above "story". And you are right on hBerry...since man certainly doesn't seem to be able to agree on the D&R issue, IMO it should be left up to those involved and the Holy Spirit. When it comes to abuse (whether it be to children or adults) that should definitely be addressed and the law should be involved (again IMO)! Hey! Forget the divorce issue!
You've done something worse (according to your avatar) YOUR HAIR! girl, it's not up in a bun!
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Post by shipwreckedsailor on May 27, 2013 19:08:10 GMT -5
If you truly look like your avatar I would love to meet you!!
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