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Post by WINGSfortruth on Aug 6, 2010 6:12:58 GMT -5
ATTENTION! There is to be a special "union meeting" held in Hobart on Sunday morning August 15 followed by a gospel meeting. WINGS trusts the purpose is to advise the surrounding meetings of some changes in the 2010 workers list and reasons behind these changes. Considering the serious and criminal nature of the matters involved, it is essential for all who may be concerned to attend this meeting. WINGS commends the workers who are taking this meeting for openly addressing this particular issue in Tasmania and Victoria in a legally correct manner. Please note that if you are aware or learn of any inappropriate sexual behaviour involving children, you should immediately call your local authorities. www.wingsfortruth.info/who%20knows%20the%20secret-1.htm www.wingsfortruth.info/bill%20glaser.pdf
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Post by pinky on Aug 6, 2010 7:01:33 GMT -5
Thanks WINGS.
Are there details available for those who wish to attend, where and when etc?
I am not really familiar with the term "union" meeting. I assume it is open to all friends.
Do you know if a similar meeting is planned for Victoria?
Thanks to the WINGS team for persisting to get results in these matters.
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Post by aus1 on Aug 6, 2010 8:11:16 GMT -5
A union meeting is when all meetings within a certain area combine for that particlar mtg. It used to be very common in rural Australia 30 years ago.
It is intertesting that it is to be followed by a gospel meeting. Not sure if i was one of the wounded that i would feel like going out of the union meeting straight into a gospel meeting.
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Post by sharonw on Aug 6, 2010 8:32:20 GMT -5
A union meeting is when all meetings within a certain area combine for that particlar mtg. It used to be very common in rural Australia 30 years ago. It is intertesting that it is to be followed by a gospel meeting. Not sure if i was one of the wounded that i would feel like going out of the union meeting straight into a gospel meeting. But it perhaps would be considered a very correct political move! n Perhaps turning the day into not only that about bad news, but to remind all that there are still good news? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2010 10:15:38 GMT -5
Great post Shaz. You go up another notch! Good to see some others recognise your efforts also.
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Post by Admin on Aug 6, 2010 18:41:48 GMT -5
Recently posted on the Wings site: The date of the "special union meeting" in Hobart is likely Sunday 15 August. "How to Vote" cards will be handed out (only joking ;D It is possible that the workers taking the meeting will find themselves overawed by the occasion. Or they will find it difficult to discuss the issues openly and in plain language in a meeting context amongst so many concerned friends, where we are not used to discussing such things. To help, WINGS highly recommends the "open letter" published on this site. WINGS also has other resources that can help. Such as the articles linked to the bottom of the post above. We have contact details of health department sexual abuse units in both states. Victims can contact these facilities in strict confidentiality and obtain advice and counselling free of charge. We have contact phone numbers for two ladies in Victoria who are in contact with and supporting several of the known victims. We can pass these contacts to any genuine concerned person. Other victim/survivors might like to have contact with each other and form a support group. Here is an update: WINGS has knowledge of a probable nine individual victims who as young girls or teenagers, were sexually molested by a senior worker in Victoria/Tasmania. The perpetrator is no longer in the work. The known offences date back over the past 35 years. Any additional information concerning any worker in these states and potential victims can be provided in strict confidence to WINGS administrators. Healing has begun for some of the victim/survivors now that this perpetrator has confessed and been removed from opportunities the work presents for future offending. Full healing will take time and WINGS will help in every way that we can. Our prayers are for the perpetrator also. Our hope is for full confession, repentance and restoration with God for this man. Our hearts go out to you all. All are victims in some way, in sad situations such as this. |
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Post by Admin on Aug 6, 2010 19:01:45 GMT -5
We have been asked to emphasize that a worker in Tasmania by name of Ian Caves is not involved in this issue.
Ian's name popped up in another thread.
We have received some extremely positive feedback about Ian from those who know him, both friends and ex members of the fellowship.
It is probable that Ian will participate in the "special union meeting" that is the subject of this thread. Perhaps we can keep Ian and others like him in our prayers especially at this time.
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Post by sharonw on Aug 6, 2010 20:53:18 GMT -5
We have been asked to emphasize that a worker in Tasmania by name of Ian Caves is not involved in this issue. Ian's name popped up in another thread. We have received some extremely positive feedback about Ian from those who know him, both friends and ex members of the fellowship. It is probable that Ian will participate in the "special union meeting" that is the subject of this thread. Perhaps we can keep Ian and others like him in our prayers especially at this time. admin Tanks, Admin! Just knowing that the Aust. workers are stepping up to the plate and are concerned to approach the issue at all is so encouraging for all who are affected by any CSA issue! |
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Post by shushy on Aug 7, 2010 1:23:25 GMT -5
I am very pleased and impressed that this is being handled correctly and biblically.
It is encouraging.
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Post by Rob Sargison on Aug 7, 2010 3:06:04 GMT -5
Tassie's leading the world. That would be a first.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2010 6:24:02 GMT -5
And why not, Rob?  |
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Post by sharonw on Aug 7, 2010 8:39:36 GMT -5
And why not, Rob? I don't know why this reminded me of what Jesus said...but perhaps there's a message there in it anyway? Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: Mar 13:18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter. Tas' people leading us through the harsh winter of our distress? |
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Post by fred on Aug 7, 2010 18:33:27 GMT -5
Tassie's leading the world. That would be a first. Well ya know Rob, two heads are better than one. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2010 4:10:35 GMT -5
Elab: The reference to "two heads" is an Australian "in joke." Tasmania is a small island, and many of its first citizens were convicts. There are suspicions Tasmanians have become inbred.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2010 4:17:30 GMT -5
Bert, is Nathan Tasmanian? I understand he's always in bread?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2010 5:28:18 GMT -5
Nah, Nathan is Vietnamese I believe.
Any news on the Tassy meetings?
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Post by fred on Aug 8, 2010 6:25:35 GMT -5
Bert, is Nathan Tasmanian? I understand he's always in bread? Elab : Nathan is a baker and thus the reference to him being "in bread". |
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Post by kencoolidge on Aug 8, 2010 6:52:35 GMT -5
Bert, is Nathan Tasmanian? I understand he's always in bread? Elab : Nathan is a baker and thus the reference to him being "in bread". Nathan is not only a baker but a Barker |
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Post by Rob Sargison on Aug 8, 2010 14:39:32 GMT -5
 As Homer would say, "D'ough". Elab: One of David's mighty men. Does Nathan make a prophet?
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Post by kencoolidge on Aug 8, 2010 16:22:36 GMT -5
As Homer would say, "D'ough". Elab: One of David's mighty men. Does Nathan make a prophet? More importantly is he a prophet.? He works for others who profit from his faithful work! Nathan jump in anytime my brother ken |
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Post by r733 on Aug 8, 2010 21:11:29 GMT -5
And why not, Rob? Is that Bert sitting way down under |
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Post by aus1 on Aug 8, 2010 22:15:09 GMT -5
Ian, do you know what the format of the mtg will be, will it be like any other Sun mtg or is it an explanation mtg where recent events will be discussed and way forward clarified??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2010 2:38:20 GMT -5
You guys are too funny! ;D It is good that we can find time to laugh on the TMB sometimes. It gets too stressful and serious most of the time. Yes, I am still rolling in the dough during the day and a barker at night on TMB.
Ram, somebody smited me!  so give me an exalt karma when you get the chance. I will do a favor in return later. ;D Hi Nathan. The Cad! Imagine someone allowing satan the victory by smiting my pal! I see you're back to zero without my help. I've just done my usual to try and help Bert, so later on I'll see what I can do. Bert has me trapped in a 7 x 70 exalt thing. That's a very long commitment, but I can and must take time out to help others in need. The Good Ramaritan |
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Post by Ju on Aug 9, 2010 5:16:54 GMT -5
I am interested to hear who this meeting is open to and who the letter is being sent to in Tasmania. Living in Southern Tasmania and having daughters the information coming to light is very unsettling and I would wonder who the letter is being addressed/sent to. Has consideration been given to people who have attended missions and had the worker in question in their home but not be part of the fellowship?
Has the matter been reported to authorities or is it being dealt with as an internal matter?
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Post by spiders on Aug 9, 2010 5:51:40 GMT -5
I am interested to hear who this meeting is open to and who the letter is being sent to in Tasmania. Living in Southern Tasmania and having daughters the information coming to light is very unsettling and I would wonder who the letter is being addressed/sent to. Has consideration been given to people who have attended missions and had the worker in question in their home but not be part of the fellowship? Has the matter been reported to authorities or is it being dealt with as an internal matter? I believe the letter, which is on the Wings site, is not being sent out by the workers, but by some of the friends in Tas. I am not sure who is attending the union meeting in Hobart, but I suspect that it for the professing friends only. It is my understanding that the worker in question has not been reported to the authorities, as none of the victims (at this stage), wish to press charges. The worker has been removed from the work and is living with his sister in Victoria. |
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Post by sharonw on Aug 9, 2010 7:17:37 GMT -5
I am interested to hear who this meeting is open to and who the letter is being sent to in Tasmania. Living in Southern Tasmania and having daughters the information coming to light is very unsettling and I would wonder who the letter is being addressed/sent to. Has consideration been given to people who have attended missions and had the worker in question in their home but not be part of the fellowship? Has the matter been reported to authorities or is it being dealt with as an internal matter? I believe the letter, which is on the Wings site, is not being sent out by the workers, but by some of the friends in Tas. I am not sure who is attending the union meeting in Hobart, but I suspect that it for the professing friends only. It is my understanding that the worker in question has not been reported to the authorities, as none of the victims (at this stage), wish to press charges. The worker has been removed from the work and is living with his sister in Victoria. Is it because all the victims that have come forth with the allegations of abuse are all older and perhaps all are past the statue of limitations? Could it be possible that there are some very young victims out there that don't know how to tell what happened to them? Seems like to me that if there is anyone who has daughters that were around the man should try and get them to tell IF there was anything unseemly, would it? |
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Post by spiders on Aug 9, 2010 7:55:12 GMT -5
I believe the letter, which is on the Wings site, is not being sent out by the workers, but by some of the friends in Tas. I am not sure who is attending the union meeting in Hobart, but I suspect that it for the professing friends only. It is my understanding that the worker in question has not been reported to the authorities, as none of the victims (at this stage), wish to press charges. The worker has been removed from the work and is living with his sister in Victoria. Is it because all the victims that have come forth with the allegations of abuse are all older and perhaps all are past the statue of limitations? Could it be possible that there are some very young victims out there that don't know how to tell what happened to them? Seems like to me that if there is anyone who has daughters that were around the man should try and get them to tell IF there was anything unseemly, would it? It is my understanding that the statue of limitations does not apply in Victoria, therefore anyone who is a victim could press charges. I am sure some do not want to as it would be very traumatic. There could well be some younger victims out there who for a number of reasons do not feel able to discuss things with their parents. This is one of the reasons that the letter published on Wings should be sent to all of the friends. This, along with the excellent literature on CSA published by Wings can help equip parents to discuss this with their children. It is important the letter is distributed (ideally by the workers) and everyone is properly informed on how to deal with situations that may arise. The most important thing is that our children are protected from sexual abuse and those who are victims are given every chance of healing. |
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Post by mod5 on Aug 9, 2010 8:19:11 GMT -5
There could well be some younger victims out there who for a number of reasons do not feel able to discuss things with their parents. This is one of the reasons that the letter published on Wings should be sent to all of the friends. This, along with the excellent literature on CSA published by Wings can help equip parents to discuss this with their children. It is important the letter is distributed (ideally by the workers) and everyone is properly informed on how to deal with situations that may arise. The most important thing is that our children are protected from sexual abuse and those who are victims are given every chance of healing. Parents need to know how to approach children in the right way as they may be reluctant to talk about abuse by workers. Wings has some very good advice to parents on how to approach their children in a way which will open up communication. www.wingsfortruth.info/howtotalktochildren.pdf |
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