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Post by mountain on Feb 1, 2020 5:53:30 GMT -5
Dm I'd love to show you around Edinburgh Castle. That would be a very interesting tour. If I remember correctly the guy at the ticket office firmly believes that eating rice has the ability to reduce one's hunger pangs. Now if you firmly believe likewise, we may have a great start to the tour? Let's hope it happens, but it would be better if this little point could be clarified beforehand. Furthermore, the German thing? Do you agree with Nathan that the NAZIS had bases in Occupied Europe during WW II? Please don't avoid answering these very pertinent questions because of the subject matter they bookended. Buffalo burgers? Now that is very interesting. With rice? Hey this could be some trip? We actually have buffalo burgers in my area, but they are made from the meat of water buffalo which are farmed in the region. Now that you have focussed on what we disagree over, hot about for the sake of harmony you diligently address the rice and German issues? Sorry, Ram.
I would not want a tour of the castle to have to be burdened down on a discussion of such mundane subjects. That wouldn't be a very pleasant trip.
BTW, -our buffalo burgers these days come from domesticated plains bison raised on farms around here in the mid-west.
I'm sorry to see that you consider vital subjects such as rice and German military bases to be such mundane matters. I had hoped to introduce you to grass blade counting techniques in Prince's Street gardens, immediatelt below the Castle. Another mundane subject, eh? The alternative would be to discuss atheism. Not my favourite subject, but it wouldn't be the first time I spent hours talking about nothing. I thought they had stopped killing the American bison due to over-exploitation? Is this something that Trump reversed? Anyway, the Castle tour offer is still on the table.......alongside the water buffalo burger!
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Post by snow on Feb 1, 2020 13:52:26 GMT -5
Dm I'd love to show you around Edinburgh Castle. That would be a very interesting tour. If I remember correctly the guy at the ticket office firmly believes that eating rice has the ability to reduce one's hunger pangs. Now if you firmly believe likewise, we may have a great start to the tour? Let's hope it happens, but it would be better if this little point could be clarified beforehand. Furthermore, the German thing? Do you agree with Nathan that the NAZIS had bases in Occupied Europe during WW II? Please don't avoid answering these very pertinent questions because of the subject matter they bookended. Buffalo burgers? Now that is very interesting. With rice? Hey this could be some trip? We actually have buffalo burgers in my area, but they are made from the meat of water buffalo which are farmed in the region. Now that you have focussed on what we disagree over, hot about for the sake of harmony you diligently address the rice and German issues? Sorry, Ram.
I would not want a tour of the castle to have to be burdened down on a discussion of such mundane subjects. That wouldn't be a very pleasant trip.
BTW, -our buffalo burgers these days come from domesticated plains bison raised on farms around here in the mid-west.
Yes they hide them behind 8 foot barbwire fences these days. Remember once when I was surveying in Montana having a herd of them come across the Prairie toward me. Calves in the middle! I was really glad for the 8 ft fence ha! They were really majestic even being a small herd. I cannot imagine what it must have looked like when there were so many you couldn't see the edges of the herds and the landscape appeared to be moving.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 14:37:46 GMT -5
Sorry, Ram.
I would not want a tour of the castle to have to be burdened down on a discussion of such mundane subjects. That wouldn't be a very pleasant trip.
BTW, -our buffalo burgers these days come from domesticated plains bison raised on farms around here in the mid-west.
Yes they hide them behind 8 foot barbwire fences these days. Remember once when I was surveying in Montana having a herd of them come across the Prairie toward me. Calves in the middle! I was really glad for the 8 ft fence ha! They were really majestic even being a small herd. I cannot imagine what it must have looked like when there were so many you couldn't see the edges of the herds and the landscape appeared to be moving. were you at the bison range just north of missoula? i use to go there to relax after farming crops all day....
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Post by Lee on Feb 1, 2020 15:34:31 GMT -5
Wildlife is a beautiful thing, and in America, perhaps the bison represents this more than others.
My daughter and I drove through Yellowstone and Tetons last June on the the way to Wisconsin to celebrate her cousin's graduation.
What a joy! I hope it made as much of an impression on her as it did during my visit as a ten year old.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 1, 2020 16:07:23 GMT -5
Wally, -you missed the point once again. Makes one wonder if you really read the whole post and digest the meaning or just grab a section and run with it.
This is what my post actually meant!
Would I want to make a deal where someone else should have to die a horrible death just to "redeem" me because of my own failure?
if you don't want to answer the question then don't but stop it with your spin your not fooling anyone... Wally, -Why should I keep knocking myself out trying to answer someone who doesn't understand or refuses to understand what I was saying? Now YOU answer that question!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 17:12:25 GMT -5
if you don't want to answer the question then don't but stop it with your spin your not fooling anyone... Wally, -Why should I keep knocking myself out trying to answer someone who doesn't understand or refuses to understand what I was saying? Now YOU answer that question!nice dodge but no cigar for you....i am just gonna ASSume i was right and your a mother who wouldn't sacrifice yourself for your kids...so the metaphor is lost upon you...
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 1, 2020 17:20:05 GMT -5
Sorry, Ram.
I would not want a tour of the castle to have to be burdened down on a discussion of such mundane subjects. That wouldn't be a very pleasant trip.
BTW, -our buffalo burgers these days come from domesticated plains bison raised on farms around here in the mid-west. I'm sorry to see that you consider vital subjects such as rice and German military bases to be such mundane matters I had hoped to introduce you to grass blade counting techniques in Prince's Street gardens, immediatelt below the Castle. Another mundane subject, eh? The alternative would be to discuss atheism. Not my favourite subject, but it wouldn't be the first time I spent hours talking about nothing. I thought they had stopped killing the American bison due to over-exploitation? Is this something that Trump reversed? Anyway, the Castle tour offer is still on the table.......alongside the water buffalo burger! No problem, Ram, -we would NOT have to even mention the word "atheism!"
When I go to another country I really like to visit sites of the past, -like the "standing stones & circles" in Scotland as well as the older churches and castles.
I wonder why the people built such sites and what they must have thought and believed that caused them to built them.
What gods or goddesses they were worshipping in those particular times and why they felt a need to worship them. Also why they moved from believing in a certain "god/gods" to a different ones later. How one supernatural entity evolved into another supernatural entity as time went by.
So, Ram-since you appear to believe in the present-day supernatural entity, -I would rather keep silent myself and listen to you explain how all that came about in your country.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 1, 2020 17:22:33 GMT -5
Sorry, Ram.
I would not want a tour of the castle to have to be burdened down on a discussion of such mundane subjects. That wouldn't be a very pleasant trip.
BTW, -our buffalo burgers these days come from domesticated plains bison raised on farms around here in the mid-west.
Yes they hide them behind 8 foot barbwire fences these days. Remember once when I was surveying in Montana having a herd of them come across the Prairie toward me. Calves in the middle! I was really glad for the 8 ft fence ha! They were really majestic even being a small herd. I cannot imagine what it must have looked like when there were so many you couldn't see the edges of the herds and the landscape appeared to be moving. In the fall there was a wild buffalo or bison which had attacked a nine y/o girl. Apparently she was too close. She likely thought it’d be like petting zoo cows.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 1, 2020 17:31:22 GMT -5
Yes they hide them behind 8 foot barbwire fences these days. Remember once when I was surveying in Montana having a herd of them come across the Prairie toward me. Calves in the middle! I was really glad for the 8 ft fence ha! They were really majestic even being a small herd. I cannot imagine what it must have looked like when there were so many you couldn't see the edges of the herds and the landscape appeared to be moving. were you at the bison range just north of missoula? i use to go there to relax after farming crops all day.... There used to be a large herd of buffalo north of Oklahoma City, close to Bartlesville, they never ventured up to the 8 foot fence but they occasionally lift their heads and look at the human gawkers as if to say, “You seen enough already?” Then they’d go back to grazing. There was a meat locker not too far that offered different buffalo meat products. When I came back through on my way home, I stopped and bought a buffalo roast. We didn’t think it so very special. Much like grass-fed beef.
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Post by mountain on Feb 1, 2020 17:57:45 GMT -5
I'm sorry to see that you consider vital subjects such as rice and German military bases to be such mundane matters I had hoped to introduce you to grass blade counting techniques in Prince's Street gardens, immediatelt below the Castle. Another mundane subject, eh? The alternative would be to discuss atheism. Not my favourite subject, but it wouldn't be the first time I spent hours talking about nothing. I thought they had stopped killing the American bison due to over-exploitation? Is this something that Trump reversed? Anyway, the Castle tour offer is still on the table.......alongside the water buffalo burger! No problem, Ram, -we would NOT have to even mention the word "atheism!"
When I go to another country I really like to visit sites of the past, -like the "standing stones & circles" in Scotland as well as the older churches and castles.
I wonder why the people built such sites and what they must have thought and believed that caused them to built them.
What gods or goddesses they were worshipping in those particular times and why they felt a need to worship them. Also why they moved from believing in a certain "god/gods" to a different ones later. How one supernatural entity evolved into another supernatural entity as time went by.
So, Ram-since you appear to believe in the present-day supernatural entity, -I would rather keep silent myself and listen to you explain how all that came about in your country. You're awoman after my own heart Dm, so you are. We could have a really good time doing stuff! Okay, so how did knowledge of the one true God come to Scotland? As most Scots know, the Garden of Eden was in Scotland, not Iraq or anywhere in Africa, etc. It began right here in Scotland before you were born. You wish to visit our capital city Edinburgh? Did you know this is an Anglicised version of 'Edenburgh' or 'Region of Eden?' I stay in Fife,the region which lies across the Firth of Forth from Edenburgh. The River Eden runs through the centre of Fife. You want more, huh? Okay, in Scotland (extended region of Eden), we have a saying that we are a' Jock Tamsin's bairns. Jock Tamsin is the Scots way of saying John Thompson, a common name in these parts. However, the name Jock Tamsin clealy has Adamaic origins, as Adam too is said to be the Father of every living person, hence Jock Tamsin and Adam are one and the same person. Scotland is well known for its levels of precipitation and one day after hunners (hundreds) of years there was an awfully long downpour which flooded the land and all the high mountains and everyone got so drookit they didnae survive, that is all but one man and his family, eicht in total, called MacNoah. Well anyway the watters abated and the ship that saved the MacNoahs came to rest on our highest mountain, Ben Nevis (venomous or malicious mountain) and the population was restarted. It had been an awfae flood! Jings! Michty me! They didnae have wellies (Wellington boots) back in these days. Noo the MacNoahs were very faithful to the ane true God and served him weel, but that was soon to change. Years later, the descendents of the MacNoahs, the MacNimrods had gone skay-whiff wi their ideas aboot God and they startit tae build a huge tower or keep tae their ane idea o' God. This wisnae guid o' them cause they had been asked to go and replenish the Earth by multiplying their numbers. But they didnae want tae, so they stayed put and said 'we are biding here and buildin' a toor tae oor ain idea. We'' worship who we want and how we want.' They were awfae they MacNimrods, so awfae that God came doon and confounded their language so that no wan could understaund the ither and were scattered abroad, which resulted in a' the civilisations ye see the day. Noo a' they folk had their ain, wrang ideas aboot God and passed them on tae their children who ower years added tae they things and came up wi some brammers o' religions, which ye see the day. And lots o' them tae! It a' started wi' the crazy ideas o' the MacNimrods. Onywi' roond aboot the 6th century AD a missionary caud Columbus came fae Ireland and settled on the island of Iona off the west coast o' Scotland and sent oot missionaries tae a' parts o' Scotland, Christianising abody. It's quite a story and there's a braw Abbey fur ye tae visit on Iona, which the Catholics took ower. In time the spirit o' the MacNimrods influenced the true gospel message and now we have loads o' different Christian denominations, but a' that wis tae change. Ower a hunner years ago twa' guys were havin' a cup o' tea together and discussin' the Bible. Baith o' them had done some preaching but wernae satisfied and were lookin' fur answers. Onywae, wan o' them caud Willie Irvine thocht a wee bitty aboot Matthew 10 (no oor poster..the ither Matthew 10) and came up wi the idea o' bein' like the first disciples and goin' oot twa an' twa. So this they did efter the ither ain sold his draper's business tae buy twa bikes. And there ye have it my dear DM. Of course there is a bit mair tae it than that, but that'll dae the noo!
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Post by joanna on Feb 1, 2020 18:52:21 GMT -5
Lee . Sounds like a lovely journey Lee. And am sure your daughter will always remember it. Teaching children to respect and be kind to other animals helps them to develop empathy.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 1, 2020 19:21:10 GMT -5
You're awoman after my own heart Dm, so you are. We could have a really good time doing stuff! Okay, so how did knowledge of the one true God come to Scotland? As most Scots know, the Garden of Eden was in Scotland, not Iraq or anywhere in Africa, etc. It began right here in Scotland before you were born. You wish to visit our capital city Edinburgh? Did you know this is an Anglicised version of 'Edenburgh' or 'Region of Eden?' I stay in Fife,the region which lies across the Firth of Forth from Edenburgh. The River Eden runs through the centre of Fife. You want more, huh? Okay, in Scotland (extended region of Eden), we have a saying that we are a' Jock Tamsin's bairns. Jock Tamsin is the Scots way of saying John Thompson, a common name in these parts. However, the name Jock Tamsin clealy has Adamaic origins, as Adam too is said to be the Father of every living person, hence Jock Tamsin and Adam are one and the same person. Scotland is well known for its levels of precipitation and one day after hunners (hundreds) of years there was an awfully long downpour which flooded the land and all the high mountains and everyone got so drookit they didnae survive, that is all but one man and his family, eicht in total, called MacNoah. Well anyway the watters abated and the ship that saved the MacNoahs came to rest on our highest mountain, Ben Nevis (venomous or malicious mountain) and the population was restarted. It had been an awfae flood! Jings! Michty me! They didnae have wellies (Wellington boots) back in these days. Noo the MacNoahs were very faithful to the ane true God and served him weel, but that was soon to change. Years later, the descendents of the MacNoahs, the MacNimrods had gone skay-whiff wi their ideas aboot God and they startit tae build a huge tower or keep tae their ane idea o' God. This wisnae guid o' them cause they had been asked to go and replenish the Earth by multiplying their numbers. But they didnae want tae, so they stayed put and said 'we are biding here and buildin' a toor tae oor ain idea. We'' worship who we want and how we want.' They were awfae they MacNimrods, so awfae that God came doon and confounded their language so that no wan could understaund the ither and were scattered abroad, which resulted in a' the civilisations ye see the day. Noo a' they folk had their ain, wrang ideas aboot God and passed them on tae their children who ower years added tae they things and came up wi some brammers o' religions, which ye see the day. And lots o' them tae! It a' started wi' the crazy ideas o' the MacNimrods. Onywi' roond aboot the 6th century AD a missionary caud Columbus came fae Ireland and settled on the island of Iona off the west coast o' Scotland and sent oot missionaries tae a' parts o' Scotland, Christianising abody. It's quite a story and there's a braw Abbey fur ye tae visit on Iona, which the Catholics took ower. In time the spirit o' the MacNimrods influenced the true gospel message and now we have loads o' different Christian denominations, but a' that wis tae change. Ower a hunner years ago twa' guys were havin' a cup o' tea together and discussin' the Bible. Baith o' them had done some preaching but wernae satisfied and were lookin' fur answers. Onywae, wan o' them caud Willie Irvine thocht a wee bitty aboot Matthew 10 (no oor poster..the ither Matthew 10) and came up wi the idea o' bein' like the first disciples and goin' oot twa an' twa. So this they did efter the ither ain sold his draper's business tae buy twa bikes. And there ye have it my dear DM. Of course there is a bit mair tae it than that, but that'll dae the noo! Well noo, Ram, -we all have heard the Scots have a long reputation for knowing how to spin a good yarn and you surely have proved that you are one of the best of them!
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Post by matisse on Feb 1, 2020 20:46:47 GMT -5
WALLY, You must be some kind of slight-of hand magician (or con man) the way that you pull stuff out of thin air which has nothing to do with what has been posted! Christ our elder brother sacrificed himself for us so that we would not suffer spiritual death. i would think a mother could relate to that if she had to do the same for her own kids on a physical level.... But would YOU choose a plan that meant that YOUR mother would have to die for you? Would YOU choose a plan that required one of YOUR older siblings to die for you? And how would you feel when you found out that your putative father came up with the plan all on his own without any outside pressure to require a family member to die? If your putative father was caught, he would be eligible for a long prison term!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 20:52:00 GMT -5
Christ our elder brother sacrificed himself for us so that we would not suffer spiritual death. i would think a mother could relate to that if she had to do the same for her own kids on a physical level.... But would YOU choose a plan that meant that YOUR mother would have to die for you? Would YOU choose a plan that required one of YOUR older siblings to die for you? And how would you feel when you found out that your putative father came up with the plan all on his own without any outside pressure to require a family member to die? If your putative father was caught, he would be eligible for a long prison term! the plan was set from the beginning there is no real choosing to do its more acceptance than choice...
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Post by matisse on Feb 1, 2020 20:59:42 GMT -5
But would YOU choose a plan that meant that YOUR mother would have to die for you? Would YOU choose a plan that required one of YOUR older siblings to die for you? And how would you feel when you found out that your putative father came up with the plan all on his own without any outside pressure to require a family member to die? If your putative father was caught, he would be eligible for a long prison term! the plan was set from the beginning there is no real choosing to do its more acceptance than choice... Interesting that you choose the passive voice. Is your God passive? He had no choice but to require blood sacrifices to appease him?
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Post by mountain on Feb 2, 2020 5:27:13 GMT -5
You're awoman after my own heart Dm, so you are. We could have a really good time doing stuff! Okay, so how did knowledge of the one true God come to Scotland? As most Scots know, the Garden of Eden was in Scotland, not Iraq or anywhere in Africa, etc. It began right here in Scotland before you were born. You wish to visit our capital city Edinburgh? Did you know this is an Anglicised version of 'Edenburgh' or 'Region of Eden?' I stay in Fife,the region which lies across the Firth of Forth from Edenburgh. The River Eden runs through the centre of Fife. You want more, huh? Okay, in Scotland (extended region of Eden), we have a saying that we are a' Jock Tamsin's bairns. Jock Tamsin is the Scots way of saying John Thompson, a common name in these parts. However, the name Jock Tamsin clealy has Adamaic origins, as Adam too is said to be the Father of every living person, hence Jock Tamsin and Adam are one and the same person. Scotland is well known for its levels of precipitation and one day after hunners (hundreds) of years there was an awfully long downpour which flooded the land and all the high mountains and everyone got so drookit they didnae survive, that is all but one man and his family, eicht in total, called MacNoah. Well anyway the watters abated and the ship that saved the MacNoahs came to rest on our highest mountain, Ben Nevis (venomous or malicious mountain) and the population was restarted. It had been an awfae flood! Jings! Michty me! They didnae have wellies (Wellington boots) back in these days. Noo the MacNoahs were very faithful to the ane true God and served him weel, but that was soon to change. Years later, the descendents of the MacNoahs, the MacNimrods had gone skay-whiff wi their ideas aboot God and they startit tae build a huge tower or keep tae their ane idea o' God. This wisnae guid o' them cause they had been asked to go and replenish the Earth by multiplying their numbers. But they didnae want tae, so they stayed put and said 'we are biding here and buildin' a toor tae oor ain idea. We'' worship who we want and how we want.' They were awfae they MacNimrods, so awfae that God came doon and confounded their language so that no wan could understaund the ither and were scattered abroad, which resulted in a' the civilisations ye see the day. Noo a' they folk had their ain, wrang ideas aboot God and passed them on tae their children who ower years added tae they things and came up wi some brammers o' religions, which ye see the day. And lots o' them tae! It a' started wi' the crazy ideas o' the MacNimrods. Onywi' roond aboot the 6th century AD a missionary caud Columbus came fae Ireland and settled on the island of Iona off the west coast o' Scotland and sent oot missionaries tae a' parts o' Scotland, Christianising abody. It's quite a story and there's a braw Abbey fur ye tae visit on Iona, which the Catholics took ower. In time the spirit o' the MacNimrods influenced the true gospel message and now we have loads o' different Christian denominations, but a' that wis tae change. Ower a hunner years ago twa' guys were havin' a cup o' tea together and discussin' the Bible. Baith o' them had done some preaching but wernae satisfied and were lookin' fur answers. Onywae, wan o' them caud Willie Irvine thocht a wee bitty aboot Matthew 10 (no oor poster..the ither Matthew 10) and came up wi the idea o' bein' like the first disciples and goin' oot twa an' twa. So this they did efter the ither ain sold his draper's business tae buy twa bikes. And there ye have it my dear DM. Of course there is a bit mair tae it than that, but that'll dae the noo! Well noo, Ram, -we all have heard the Scots have a long reputation for knowing how to spin a good yarn and you surely have proved that you are one of the best of them! Ye do ken that the Toor o' MacNimrod still stauns? It's called Edinburgh Castle!
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Post by chuck on Feb 2, 2020 8:03:43 GMT -5
joanna You state Jesus is the truth. How can you prove this? chuck . There are infinite numbers of people who do not believe in, or follow Jesus and yet live ethical lives. There are many Christians who commit crimes including the sexual abuse of children. Other Christians spend their judging alternate Christian sects and arguing over the Trinity; Grace and other biblical points. If Jesus is an effective teacher, then why is there so much confusion and antipathy amongst Christians? Read his teachings. Sure many don't believe in Jesus, but how many would admit some of their ethical values are rooted in Jesus. None because then they would have to acknowledge him. Nothing wrong with the teacher. Not sure how you can link Jesus/teaching with child abuse, totally against everything he taught. Confusion comes from adding to the word of God. Christ is the final word of God. Religion adds to the word of God, even the 2x2 religion.
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Post by snow on Feb 2, 2020 13:45:21 GMT -5
Yes they hide them behind 8 foot barbwire fences these days. Remember once when I was surveying in Montana having a herd of them come across the Prairie toward me. Calves in the middle! I was really glad for the 8 ft fence ha! They were really majestic even being a small herd. I cannot imagine what it must have looked like when there were so many you couldn't see the edges of the herds and the landscape appeared to be moving. were you at the bison range just north of missoula? i use to go there to relax after farming crops all day.... No just north of Wolf Point Montana. We were doing a seismic survey of the area in 1979. Yes I'm old lol... It was a lot of fun actually.
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Post by snow on Feb 2, 2020 13:50:15 GMT -5
Well noo, Ram, -we all have heard the Scots have a long reputation for knowing how to spin a good yarn and you surely have proved that you are one of the best of them! Ye do ken that the Toor o' MacNimrod still stauns? It's called Edinburgh Castle! This is where my ancestor lived. kilravock.com/
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Post by Lee on Feb 5, 2020 1:16:38 GMT -5
Lee . Sounds like a lovely journey Lee. And am sure your daughter will always remember it. Teaching children to respect and be kind to other animals helps them to develop empathy. And divinity. Reading a book lately called 'The Man who Made Things out of Trees'. Robert Penn
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Post by believingjesus on Feb 5, 2020 20:37:42 GMT -5
Paula White, President Trump's primary spiritual advisor and White House staff member, gave a very intriguing prayer/sermon recently. She talked about satanic pregnancies and prayed that they would miscarry immediately. "We cancel every surprise, from the witchcraft in the marine kingdom… any spirit of control, any Jezebel… We come against the marine kingdom, we come against the animal kingdom… we break the power in the name of Jesus… We command any satanic pregnancies to miscarry right now.” Take a listen: Maybe some of the believers can explain: How do Satanic pregnancies work exactly? Does the devil get women pregnant in a similar manner to how the Holy Spirit got Mary pregnant? When Paula White commands these miscarriages in the name of Jesus, is Jesus helping her perform celestial abortions? How does the "marine kingdom" play into all of this? Is it related to hollow Earth? Very interesting. With this wing nut it could mean just about anything. I too wondered why she would be praying for abortions especially since her mentor Trump just attended an anti abortion rally and stated unequivocally that he was with them. This is a great post snow!
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Post by believingjesus on Feb 5, 2020 20:40:15 GMT -5
Paula White is more then dingy! Isn't it 'than' not 'then'? I sometimes wonder if it's the American accent or language when many of your posts have then when other English speaking countries would use than. Reluctant to say anything because most of my posts are written from my phone and it has a mind of it's own when writing words but then it appears so often I wonder if it is an American thing? It must have a mind of its own because the possessive for its is “its.”
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