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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 11:03:37 GMT -5
Nathan has lived in an English speaking country for a long time now. English studies could be a better use of his time than Valient Thor and hollow earth and Jesus on Venus studies. Says the guy who spends his time mumbling pleas to a sky monster, studying an executed Jewish zombie, and partaking in ritualistic cannibalism. Amen, like Xna has said my Valiant Thor, hollow earth and Jesus lives inside planet of Venus more believable than many of the stories in the Bible. Here these so-call Christians on here are accusing me believe in fairy takes, myths.... They are no better if not worse than me.
They accuse the atheists are unbelievers but they themselves are unbelievers as well for NOT believing in these facts which exist since the beginning of time/creation= every planet is hollow, God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit are from heaven/interior planet of Venus. So, are all of the angels of God..
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Post by Grant on Jan 19, 2020 11:05:31 GMT -5
Says the guy who spends his time mumbling pleas to a sky monster, studying an executed Jewish zombie, and partaking in ritualistic cannibalism. Amen, like Xna has said my Valiant Thor, hollow earth and Jesus lives inside planet of Venus more believable than many of the stories in the Bible. Here these so-call Christians on here are accusing me believe in fairy takes, myths.... They are no better if not worse than me.So you are putting these mens writings above the Bible or to reword it, you're putting those who believe in Valiant, Thor and Stranges as making more sense than those who believe the Bible.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 19, 2020 11:26:07 GMT -5
** In the Sunday morning I have only 2 min. to speak so, it is very difficult to explain these things in that short amount of time. Fellowship meetings are to worship The Godhead and to edify each others with words of encouragement. TMB is a better place for teaching, sharing of Words and learning from different ones. I have been posting on similar TMB for over 20 yrs, many friends and workers in many places and countries read it my posts and others on here. The workers in my field told me the friends appreciate my spirit and attitude on TMB. My overseer and some of my ex-companions know about my 2x2 website and people were coming to gospel meetings, convention and Sunday morning meetings through reading it. I don't believe that at all. Unless you have them in your "pocket". I doubt Nathan has anyone in his "pocket."
The workers have probably given up on trying to get Nathan in line, -so they just ignore what he says.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 12:22:10 GMT -5
Amen, like Xna has said my Valiant Thor, hollow earth and Jesus lives inside planet of Venus more believable than many of the stories in the Bible. Here these so-call Christians on here are accusing me believe in fairy takes, myths.... They are no better if not worse than me. So you are putting these mens writings above the Bible or to reword it, you're putting those who believe in Valiant, Thor and Stranges as making more sense than those who believe the Bible. *** These men writings are part of the 21st century Bible. It has ALWAYS been here from the beginning and we didn't KNOW it... God the Father, Christ, the Holy Spirit, all the Veusians angels of God are from interior planet of Venus. Jesus has given us the location where they came from Rev.22:16. Jesus said he came DOWN from heaven and after he had paid the ransom priced for our sins then he went back to heaven/home/Venus, where he came from. In 95 A.D. Christ showed his 1st cousin John the apostle of his Father, him, all of the angels, Old and New Test. believers live inside interior planter of Venus. He is coming back for the rest that living believers on earth so, keep TRUE to God and your faith because there are crowns of life, new earth and heaven waiting for them.
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Post by snow on Jan 19, 2020 12:47:32 GMT -5
Evil exists and produces its results. But evil will not ultimately triumph. Without evil we will be in heaven. That awaits beyond this life. That argument is the Christian's apologist's excuse to ignore the roots of evil and not attempt to do anything to stop the evil themselves.
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Post by snow on Jan 19, 2020 12:49:01 GMT -5
slowtosee I haven't looked up any stats on which institutions are more prone to keeping CSA a secret. But I feel that religions have much more to lose as far as being credible. For a secular institution any covering up wouldn't be done because they are supposed to be purer than other institutions. Religions claim to be guided by God and better than those who don't know God, so it makes sense to me that they also have to keep that aspect of it all in mind, not just the reputation as seen in a secular group. I really don't understand how they can think that way though. In my way of thinking hiding it always has the probability of it becoming known and then they would look so much worse because they tried to hide it and support the one that was guilty of CSA. I think churches and any other institution that hides CSA to keep their reputation are very short sighted as well as morally bankrupt. It's far worse in the end to not only have CSA in their ranks, but to also have hidden it and by doing that basically saying they condoned it. That's how I see it anyway. Sexual abuse has been covered up in all walks of life. Families, work places, institutions religious or otherwise. Yes, I believe I already said that, acknowledged that?
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Post by snow on Jan 19, 2020 12:51:25 GMT -5
Why don't you want to offend them? On here you state it's for our own good, tough love, when you aren't loving about us not understanding, so why the kid glove treatment for those in meetings? What if they never 'get it' because you aren't acting in meeting like you do here? ** In the Sunday morning I have only 2 min. to speak so, it is very difficult to explain these things in that short amount of time. Fellowship meetings are to worship The Godhead and to edify each others with words of encouragement. TMB is a better place for teaching, sharing of Words and learning from different ones. I have been posting on similar TMB for over 20 yrs, many friends and workers in many places and countries read it my posts and others on here. The workers in my field told me the friends appreciate my spirit and attitude on TMB. My overseer and some of my ex-companions know about my 2x2 website and people were coming to gospel meetings, convention and Sunday morning meetings through reading it. Yes that's true. Not enough time in the meetings. That I understand. But you could say 'You all don't understand you're worshiping the trinity when you take part in the emblems and my one wish is to do better in the future'. I believe all that can be said in 2 minutes, right?
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Post by snow on Jan 19, 2020 12:59:34 GMT -5
Wally: if you are so good at judging the lowness of posts, it would be interesting to know what you think of Nathan's post to Curly. Which Curly posts are you talking about, mate? you mean the posts I called him full of s.it? Didn't you read many posts he called some of us that, MADE FUN of our God and the workers, too. Do you think I am going to let that lowly scumbag curlytroll uses me as his carpet to walk on. Heck, NO! Curlytroll deserves everything I said about him because that is the Truth, mate.
Look what David the boy did to the Philistine Goliah who scoffed at the Living God. One stone to Goliah's forehead! and DOWN he went.
You are on the same page as curly to me, fixit. You are so full of it too.Why do you presume an all powerful, all knowing entity needs protection from a human? Not condoning, just asking?
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Post by snow on Jan 19, 2020 13:01:24 GMT -5
Come on Nathan! Aren't you letting a little praise from Wally go to your head? Wally, calls out as he sees it. He is NOT afraid of speaking the truth. I am NOT either! Don't push me and my God in the corner and don't expect me to be quite, I will push back harder. Look at what happened to the Philistine Goliath scoffed at David's and the children of Israel Living God! as a wimp! One stone to Goliath's forehead and he went down like tree.
Don't mock and make fun at God too much! He will say your tiny borrow life is up! now give me an account of your life. You don't want to see God gets upset. NOT very pretty picture, remember when Moses came down from the mountain and the children of Israel began worshipped the golden calf... God opened up the earth and swallow those rebellious up!
Why does it always have to come down to threats?
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Post by snow on Jan 19, 2020 13:03:35 GMT -5
curlytroll brings on everything himself...careful that you don't end up with the same reputation.... What do I bring on myself? Everytime Nathan tells a lie on here or repeats a lie I will hold him to account. If you have a problem with liars being held to account then so be it. Perhaps that explains your association with the "TRUTH" Maybe it's time theists read the book 'Why Truth Matters'? Book club book we are reading this month.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 13:03:56 GMT -5
** In the Sunday morning I have only 2 min. to speak so, it is very difficult to explain these things in that short amount of time. Fellowship meetings are to worship The Godhead and to edify each others with words of encouragement. TMB is a better place for teaching, sharing of Words and learning from different ones. I have been posting on similar TMB for over 20 yrs, many friends and workers in many places and countries read it my posts and others on here. The workers in my field told me the friends appreciate my spirit and attitude on TMB. My overseer and some of my ex-companions know about my 2x2 website and people were coming to gospel meetings, convention and Sunday morning meetings through reading it. Yes that's true. Not enough time in the meetings. That I understand. But you could say 'You all don't understand you're worshiping the trinity when you take part in the emblems and my one wish is to do better in the future'. I believe all that can be said in 2 minutes, right? ** I did explained in my Sunday morning and they believed me because they were Ex-RCC and Pentecostal. I tried it with re workers some get it but others don't understand it.
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Post by snow on Jan 19, 2020 13:07:01 GMT -5
Remind me of a lie I have told? There is no God, no heaven or hell, you die then that is all to it.... These are some of your lies. Do you remember these lies? Like there is no world wide flood. Jesus is a myth.Prove they are lies. A lot of us would be very glad to just have some proof. So don't call us liars when you can't prove you aren't one too. And no, quoting what the bible says isn't considered proof.
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Post by snow on Jan 19, 2020 13:12:30 GMT -5
Says the guy who spends his time mumbling pleas to a sky monster, studying an executed Jewish zombie, and partaking in ritualistic cannibalism. Amen, like Xna has said my Valiant Thor, hollow earth and Jesus lives inside planet of Venus more believable than many of the stories in the Bible. Here these so-call Christians on here are accusing me believe in fairy takes, myths.... They are no better if not worse than me.
They accuse the atheists are unbelievers but they themselves are unbelievers as well for NOT believing in these facts which exist since the beginning of time/creation= every planet is hollow, God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit are from heaven/interior planet of Venus. So, are all of the angels of God..UM no Nathan. Xna never said your beliefs are MORE believable. He said they are just as believable. Both are uttered without any truth to back them up so they have equal status in being believed. None.
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Post by fixit on Jan 19, 2020 13:28:11 GMT -5
Wally: if you are so good at judging the lowness of posts, it would be interesting to know what you think of Nathan's post to Curly. Which Curly posts are you talking about, mate? you mean the posts I called him full of s.it? Didn't you read many posts he called some of us that, MADE FUN of our God and the workers, too. Do you think I am going to let that lowly scumbag curlytroll uses me as his carpet to walk on. Heck, NO! Curlytroll deserves everything I said about him because that is the Truth, mate.
Look what David the boy did to the Philistine Goliah who scoffed at the Living God. One stone to Goliah's forehead! and DOWN he went.
You are on the same page as curly to me, fixit. You are so full of it too.Nice. The post I was referring to was... You are full of SH.T, and need to be flushed down the toilet. Maybe, your picture should be on those three ply toilet papers, I will buy tons of it and use it, myself with joy.
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Post by slowtosee on Jan 19, 2020 13:48:48 GMT -5
Which Curly posts are you talking about, mate? you mean the posts I called him full of s.it? Didn't you read many posts he called some of us that, MADE FUN of our God and the workers, too. Do you think I am going to let that lowly scumbag curlytroll uses me as his carpet to walk on. Heck, NO! Curlytroll deserves everything I said about him because that is the Truth, mate.
Look what David the boy did to the Philistine Goliah who scoffed at the Living God. One stone to Goliah's forehead! and DOWN he went.
You are on the same page as curly to me, fixit. You are so full of it too. Nice. If there’s still room on that page for more names and addresses , please add one more - mine is spelled Alvin Kroeker. If there’s a column needing personal information, that’s ok too. Box 388 Birch River Mb - Caucasian - male (I think ) , believer in Jesus , so hopefully that doesn’t disqualify me , what other info required ? Cheers
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Post by Grant on Jan 19, 2020 14:16:14 GMT -5
Yes that's true. Not enough time in the meetings. That I understand. But you could say 'You all don't understand you're worshiping the trinity when you take part in the emblems and my one wish is to do better in the future'. I believe all that can be said in 2 minutes, right? ** I did explained in my Sunday morning and they believed me because they were Ex-RCC and Pentecostal. I tried it with re workers some get it but others don't understand it. Who are these people who are ex RCC and Pentecostals? It is years since people from outside have professed with most being those who were born and raised in the fellowship.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 15:33:01 GMT -5
Which Curly posts are you talking about, mate? you mean the posts I called him full of s.it? Didn't you read many posts he called some of us that, MADE FUN of our God and the workers, too. Do you think I am going to let that lowly scumbag curlytroll uses me as his carpet to walk on. Heck, NO! Curlytroll deserves everything I said about him because that is the Truth, mate.
Look what David the boy did to the Philistine Goliah who scoffed at the Living God. One stone to Goliah's forehead! and DOWN he went.
You are on the same page as curly to me, fixit. You are so full of it too. Nice. The post I was referring to was... You are full of SH.T, and need to be flushed down the toilet. Maybe, your picture should be on those three ply toilet papers, I will buy tons of it and use it, myself with joy. *** Did you read posts where curlytroll call me, wally, and others B.S and the workers pictures to put on toilet papers to wipe his AS. Then out of the blue you jump in without knowing what has taken place, you jabs me with your sharp knives below the belly. You are a scumbag in my book.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 15:38:35 GMT -5
Says the guy who spends his time mumbling pleas to a sky monster, studying an executed Jewish zombie, and partaking in ritualistic cannibalism. Amen, like Xna has said my Valiant Thor, hollow earth and Jesus lives inside planet of Venus more believable than many of the stories in the Bible. Here these so-call Christians on here are accusing me believe in fairy takes, myths.... They are no better if not worse than me.
They accuse the atheists are unbelievers but they themselves are unbelievers as well for NOT believing in these facts which exist since the beginning of time/creation= every planet is hollow, God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit are from heaven/interior planet of Venus. So, are all of the angels of God..Do you realise Nathan, that you have just said ‘Amen’ to Openingact describing your God/ Jesus?. I’m not so sure you can blame that on English as a 2nd language).
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Post by slowtosee on Jan 19, 2020 16:00:10 GMT -5
To be fair , though, Nathan was kinda just doing the tit for tat thing ? True , not good , and I don’t agree with him , but if I poke away at a bear and then get scratched a bit , guess we both at fault ? So be it . I suppose lots of people THRIVE on controversy and enjoy it , so guess need to learn to let them go at each other . Just stick up for the guy on the bottom a bit , and then pull him off when he gets on top again. Bell - round two - UFC -away you go - no, you can’t kick him there , there are some rules , not many , but some .... Alvin
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Post by speak on Jan 19, 2020 16:12:17 GMT -5
To be fair , though, Nathan was kinda just doing the tit for tat thing ? True , not good , and I don’t agree with him , but if I poke away at a bear and then get scratched a bit , guess we both at fault ? So be it . I suppose lots of people THRIVE on controversy and enjoy it , so guess need to learn to let them go at each other . Just stick up for the guy on the bottom a bit , and then pull him off when he gets on top again. Bell - round two - UFC -away you go - no, you can’t kick him there , there is some rules , not many , but some .... Alvin
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 16:21:44 GMT -5
That's an interesting view. You have been on this board longer than me and will know the people here. Can you name the Christians here who 'ignore the roots of evil and not attempt to do anything to stop the evil themselves'? From some of their posts on here, -yes, -it appears that they fit that definition. But You know the rules. No names are allowed on TMB.
I was speaking about many Christians, -but certainly not all Christians. I have worked along side of some Christians in an attempt to stop some of the that "evil" perpetuated by others.
Never-the-less, -I still maintain that your post showed a "Christian's apologist's excuse to ignore the roots of evil and not attempt to do anything to stop the evil themselves."-I've looked again at what i've written and what I wrote was simple Christian doctrine. I maintain that you have read something into what I wrote that simply wasn't there. My experience of most Christians is as follows. When they are made aware of evil they do attempt to do something to stop the evil. Where they or I are ignorant regarding evil then that is a real problem. There is then a gap in knowledge which needs filling, hopefully via somebody else's help or via education. When there is no longer ignorance of the evil, then there is no excuse for ignoring or not attempting to stop that evil. Where there is ignorance, responses will be woefully inadequate. Fortunately I believe most people do keep learning through life. For the record, from the little I read on this Board, I do not see any evidence of Christians writing here who ignore or do nothing to stop evil when they know it is evil.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 16:21:59 GMT -5
** I did explained in my Sunday morning and they believed me because they were Ex-RCC and Pentecostal. I tried it with re workers some get it but others don't understand it. Who are these people who are ex RCC and Pentecostals? It is years since people from outside have professed with most being those who were born and raised in the fellowship. ** We have a Mexican professing lady born and raised as a RCC, a black family from Africa husband was a Pentecostal. We have another Vietnamese family who also came from protestant church. We have a few families born and raised in the truth in our Sunday meetings also. Most of them believed Jesus is God and the Trinity like MOST early days 2x2 workers had believed and taught the friends in their generation. Most of the friends in those days came out of many protestant churches so, they believed the Trinity doctrine also.
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Post by slowtosee on Jan 19, 2020 16:45:29 GMT -5
Who are these people who are ex RCC and Pentecostals? It is years since people from outside have professed with most being those who were born and raised in the fellowship. ** We have a Mexican professing lady born and raised RCC, a black family from Africa husband was a Pentecostal. We have another Vietnamese family who also came from protestant church. We have a few families born and raised in the truth in our Sunday meetings also. It is a privilege to fellowship with people from different cultures and backgrounds , it challenges one to learn , that what you thought was “correct” or only way to behave or believe , is not always the best , So much to learn and appreciate from other practices and cultures , belief s etc etc and a gift they can bring to us without the requirement of physically travelling to their country , environment etc . We were a family of 9 kids on a farm ,kinda on the poor side , but had boarders and travelers and some VERY unique characters live and stay with us . What a treat , thinking of the free exposure to “the world” us kids had . I sometimes miss that part of not having world travelled 2x2“workers” stay at our house anymore , but sure enjoyed the connections and “free trips” they brought . Don’t undersestimate the value of that part . Alvin
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Post by fixit on Jan 19, 2020 16:53:31 GMT -5
But remember Nathan is an online worker so no doubt modelling to the wider world, how workers speak in his church. The church he believes he can win souls into by writing on here ? Of course, I should expect some TMB condemnation for calling Nate out on his outburst to Curly. Good to know that some on here agree with me though. Nice Post to Curly:You are full of SH.T, and need to be flushed down the toilet. Maybe, your picture should be on those three ply toilet papers, I will buy tons of it and use it, myself with joy. Nice Post to Fixit:*** Did you read posts where curlytroll call me, wally, and others B.S and the workers pictures to put on toilet papers to wipe his AS. Then out of the blue you jump in without knowing what has taken place, you jabs me with your sharp knives below the belly. You are a scumbag in my book.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 16:56:01 GMT -5
** We have a Mexican professing lady born and raised RCC, a black family from Africa husband was a Pentecostal. We have another Vietnamese family who also came from protestant church. We have a few families born and raised in the truth in our Sunday meetings also. It is a privilege to fellowship with people from different cultures and backgrounds , it challenges one to learn , that what you thought was “correct” or only way to behave or believe , is not always the best , So much to learn and appreciate from other practices and cultures , belief s etc etc and a gift they can bring to us without the requirement of physically travelling to their country , environment etc . We were a family of 9 kids on a farm ,kinda on the poor side , but had boarders and travelers and some VERY unique characters live and stay with us. What a treat, thinking of the free exposure to “the world” us kids had . I sometimes miss that part of not having world travelled 2x2“workers” stay at our house anymore, but sure enjoyed the connections and “free trips” they brought. Don’t undersestimate the value of that part. Alvin ** We had workers who labored overseers for over 40 yrs, in Russia, Phillippines, and other countries. They tell us many interesting gospel stories. Just like to sit and hear Paul and his co-workers telling them their 3 journeys missions trips to different places and people respond to the gospel of Christ. It would have been awesome experiences to sit and listen to Paul sharing. his missions in the homes.
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Post by mountain on Jan 19, 2020 17:21:45 GMT -5
I thought the one who reinstates things to their former state and Nathan were both professing people?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 17:25:37 GMT -5
This thread has become a complete disgrace. It was supposed to be about a very important 2x2 event, 160 Workers at Convention in Sydney. I don't know how that rates on the World scene, but is probably very historic. Credit to Ross for the OP and making TMB aware that it was happening. Also thank you James for providing interesting photos. Apart from that the rest of it has been rubbish.
There is no way that any respectable 2x2 that I know would ever post this. "You are full of SH.T, and need to be flushed down the toilet. Maybe, your picture should be on those three ply toilet papers, I will buy tons of it and use it, myself with joy." One has to wonder if that person is a 2x2.
The shame of it is, that all the respectable 2x2's that used to post, are no longer with us. Can you blame them, there is no way that they would wish to have fellowship with that type of person. 2x2 should be a forum that provides a link between 2x2's and ex's. That connection is being destroyed. In this New Year let us see that the standard can be raised, and restore TMB to the great forum it should be.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 17:34:14 GMT -5
If a worker ever speaks about Venus in a meeting, please let me know. I would go to the other side of the earth to hear it. Would you be travelling through the earth or around it? I'll check with Priceline on the most favorable fares.
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