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Post by nathan on Jan 18, 2020 23:57:05 GMT -5
These two guys deserve it Wally, they like to dish it out to others and then SCREAM "Murders! Help. Look at what Nathan said to me/us... Boohoo. " when they get the same in returns. What a Pathetic cry babies. STAND up and take it like a man, mates. Don't be a sissy. Come on Nathan! Aren't you letting a little praise from Wally go to your head? Wally, calls out as he sees it. He is NOT afraid of speaking the truth. I am NOT either! Don't push me and my God in the corner and don't expect me to be quite, I will push back harder. Look at what happened to the Philistine Goliath scoffed at David's and the children of Israel Living God! as a wimp! One stone to Goliath's forehead and he went down like tree.
Don't mock and make fun at God too much! He will say your tiny borrow life is up! now give me an account of your life. You don't want to see God gets upset. NOT very pretty picture, remember when Moses came down from the mountain and the children of Israel began worshipped the golden calf... God opened up the earth and swallow those rebellious up!
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Post by speak on Jan 19, 2020 0:46:37 GMT -5
Will? who knows. God has the answers, I will wait for those. I haven't heard from God for a long time, maybe never. Do think that approach is a bit of a cop out, does not address the actual situation. Any well run organisation needs structured doctrine and documented policy, rather than ad hoc ideas because they imagine God has been speaking to them. Those of us that have had experience of being involved in a main stream Church understand the advantages of documented policy and transparency so as everybody knows what is going on. Not a good idea to operate in a clandestine manner, helps corruption to prosper. Well now buddy if you don't believe in Him you won't hear from Him. See what you have mentioned is what man does and not what God does, we read His thoughts are different than ours which involve faith.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 1:09:43 GMT -5
Wally, I'm all for forgiving, but there is no reason why we can't get these people out of society where they can harm children and still forgive them. We should not leave known predators in society to harm innocent children. The End. Turning the other cheek! Really? That mentality just leaves them in society to continue the CSA as long as they want! Why would that ever be acceptable in any group? I know you don't support CSA. i'm just saying there are other reasons beside church reputation.... Yes. It's called tribalism.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 1:11:31 GMT -5
Why don't you want to offend them? On here you state it's for our own good, tough love, when you aren't loving about us not understanding, so why the kid glove treatment for those in meetings? What if they never 'get it' because you aren't acting in meeting like you do here? ** In the Sunday morning I have only 2 min. to speak so, it is very difficult to explain these things in that short amount of time. Fellowship meetings are to worship The Godhead and to edify each others with words of encouragement. TMB is a better place for teaching, sharing of Words and learning from different ones. I have been posting on similar TMB for over 20 yrs, many friends and workers in many places and countries read it my posts and others on here. The workers in my field told me the friends appreciate my spirit and attitude on TMB. My overseer and some of my ex-companions know about my 2x2 website and people were coming to gospel meetings, convention and Sunday morning meetings through reading it. I don't believe that at all. Unless you have them in your "pocket".
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 19, 2020 1:14:47 GMT -5
Nathan has lived in an English speaking country for a long time now. English studies could be a better use of his time than Valient Thor and hollow earth and Jesus on Venus studies. Here is FIXIT second shot below the belt, Ouch... What a scum bag. I dislike these kinds scum bags and have no respect for them.Fixit is absolutely correct. You are the one feeding on filth and that is evident from your posts about fictitious characters making them out to be factual.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 1:18:03 GMT -5
That argument is the Christian's apologist's excuse to ignore the roots of evil and not attempt to do anything to stop the evil themselves.
That's an interesting view. You have been on this board longer than me and will know the people here. Can you name the Christians here who ' ignore the roots of evil and not attempt to do anything to stop the evil themselves'? Can the red and blue selections be discussed separately? No one has the right/responsibility/ability to address both in all circumstances.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 19, 2020 1:18:32 GMT -5
Wally: if you are so good at judging the lowness of posts, it would be interesting to know what you think of Nathan's post to Curly. curlytroll brings on everything himself...careful that you don't end up with the same reputation.... What do I bring on myself? Everytime Nathan tells a lie on here or repeats a lie I will hold him to account. If you have a problem with liars being held to account then so be it. Perhaps that explains your association with the "TRUTH"
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 19, 2020 1:24:19 GMT -5
curlytroll brings on everything himself...careful that you don't end up with the same reputation.... These two guys deserve it Wally, they like to dish it out to others and then SCREAM "Murders! Help. Look at what Nathan said to me/us... Boohoo. " when they get the same in returns. What a Pathetic cry babies. STAND up and take it like a man, mates. Don't be a sissy.Your comments and attitude remind me very much of this fella. Ngo Dinh Diem.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 19, 2020 1:30:00 GMT -5
A voice is a sound which is a sound wave. Sound waves move. If it was still it would not be a sound. Hmmmm. Well , your post really spoke to me - nope , doesn’t work as you weren’t even talking , you were typing ,no sound at this end anyhow hmmm well , yet it came through loud and clear hmmmm well , no sound so no waves , now my conscience is speaking loudly to me to just let it go and I’m not listening very well and trying to still that voice and here I am , justifying myself that I’m not arguing with you , just explaining why I’m right and you’re wrong lol Cheers Alvin Btw - I think I get your point , technically speaking , and probably should gave just spoken in a still voice . Does thinking out loud work - nah- didn't think so either- I rest my case . Let the jury decide , hopefully in a still voice or I’m toast Does the written word, in this case on the internet travel by cable. Is it little pidgeons running along the inside of the cable with our messages or is it something else? How does that travel and if it travels, is it still?
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 1:49:45 GMT -5
** In the Sunday morning I have only 2 min. to speak so, it is very difficult to explain these things in that short amount of time. Fellowship meetings are to worship The Godhead and to edify each others with words of encouragement. TMB is a better place for teaching, sharing of Words and learning from different ones. I have been posting on similar TMB for over 20 yrs, many friends and workers in many places and countries read it my posts and others on here. The workers in my field told me the friends appreciate my spirit and attitude on TMB. My overseer and some of my ex-companions know about my 2x2 website and people were coming to gospel meetings, convention and Sunday morning meetings through reading it. I don't believe that at all. Unless you have them in your "pocket". I told the trut, it doesn't matter to me whether you believe it or not. They KNOW my story and testimony for over 40 yrs. They KNOW that I am very active on the Internet. Many of the workers and friends read and know what is discussing on TMB.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 1:53:42 GMT -5
These two guys deserve it Wally, they like to dish it out to others and then SCREAM "Murders! Help. Look at what Nathan said to me/us... Boohoo. " when they get the same in returns. What a Pathetic cry babies. STAND up and take it like a man, mates. Don't be a sissy. Your comments and attitude remind me very much of this fella. Ngo Dinh Diem. Yea, and most readers on here know you too, curlytroll. What an unhappy pathetic fellow you are! and it shows in your posts.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 1:57:49 GMT -5
curlytroll brings on everything himself...careful that you don't end up with the same reputation.... What do I bring on myself? Everytime Nathan tells a lie on here or repeats a lie I will hold him to account. If you have a problem with liars being held to account then so be it. Perhaps that explains your association with the "TRUTH" Yes, the readers KNOW who is the Pathetic atheist liar on TMB. There is no God, and no heaven or hell.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 19, 2020 1:58:53 GMT -5
Your comments and attitude remind me very much of this fella. Ngo Dinh Diem. Yea, and most readers on here know you too, curlytroll. What an unhappy pathetic fellow you are! and it shows in your posts.You are the one feeding on filth. You are a product of that. I know it bothers you that I do not believe your lies but so be it.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 2:01:29 GMT -5
Yea, and most readers on here know you too, curlytroll. What an unhappy pathetic fellow you are! and it shows in your posts. You are the one feeding on filth. You are a product of that. I know it bothers you that I do not believe your lies but so be it. If a worker ever speaks about Venus in a meeting, please let me know. I would go to the other side of the earth to hear it.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 2:02:43 GMT -5
Yea, and most readers on here know you too, curlytroll. What an unhappy pathetic fellow you are! and it shows in your posts. You are the one feeding on filth. You are a product of that. I know it bothers you that I do not believe your lies but so be it. Talking about feeding on filth... If the readers go back to many of your old posts, where you call people B.S. over and over and you expect them to let you walk all over them. You making FUN of my God! HELL, NO! I will NOT let you keep on doing it, curlytroll. I have enough of your potty mouth against us and my God.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 19, 2020 2:31:21 GMT -5
You are the one feeding on filth. You are a product of that. I know it bothers you that I do not believe your lies but so be it. Talking about feeding on filth... If the readers go back to many of your old posts, where you call people B.S. over and over and you expect them to let you walk all over them. You making FUN of my God! HELL, NO! I will NOT let you keep on doing it, curlytroll. I have enough of your potty mouth against us and my God.You are perfectly entitled to believe in as many gods as you like. But do not expect to be taken seriously when you prefer your belief over fact. You are also perfectly entitled to keep repeating your lies about Admiral Byrd and about hollow planets and lizard people. Once again do not expect to be taken seriously.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 19, 2020 2:32:04 GMT -5
You are the one feeding on filth. You are a product of that. I know it bothers you that I do not believe your lies but so be it. If a worker ever speaks about Venus in a meeting, please let me know. I would go to the other side of the earth to hear it. Would you be travelling through the earth or around it?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 19, 2020 2:32:49 GMT -5
What do I bring on myself? Everytime Nathan tells a lie on here or repeats a lie I will hold him to account. If you have a problem with liars being held to account then so be it. Perhaps that explains your association with the "TRUTH" Yes, the readers KNOW who is the Pathetic atheist liar on TMB. There is no God, and no heaven or hell. Remind me of a lie I have told?
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Post by Grant on Jan 19, 2020 2:54:36 GMT -5
Why don't you want to offend them? On here you state it's for our own good, tough love, when you aren't loving about us not understanding, so why the kid glove treatment for those in meetings? What if they never 'get it' because you aren't acting in meeting like you do here? ** In the Sunday morning I have only 2 min. to speak so, it is very difficult to explain these things in that short amount of time. Fellowship meetings are to worship The Godhead and to edify each others with words of encouragement. TMB is a better place for teaching, sharing of Words and learning from different ones. I have been posting on similar TMB for over 20 yrs, many friends and workers in many places and countries read it my posts and others on here. The workers in my field told me the friends appreciate my spirit and attitude on TMB. My overseer and some of my ex-companions know about my 2x2 website and people were coming to gospel meetings, convention and Sunday morning meetings through reading it. How long ago was it when the workers told you that because you have certainly changed over the last year or so and if they are still saying that they appreciate your spirit it doesn't say much about theirs. Your posts put people off meetings not draw them. You've only talked about one person going to meeting because of your site and that was many years ago. How long ago was it Nathan? Wally seems to be the only one supporting you on here. Professing people apart from him are certainly not supporting your posts. They've mostly stopped coming here because as soon as they speak out against your posts you start attacking them.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 3:06:33 GMT -5
** In the Sunday morning I have only 2 min. to speak so, it is very difficult to explain these things in that short amount of time. Fellowship meetings are to worship The Godhead and to edify each others with words of encouragement. TMB is a better place for teaching, sharing of Words and learning from different ones. I have been posting on similar TMB for over 20 yrs, many friends and workers in many places and countries read it my posts and others on here. The workers in my field told me the friends appreciate my spirit and attitude on TMB. My overseer and some of my ex-companions know about my 2x2 website and people were coming to gospel meetings, convention and Sunday morning meetings through reading it. How long ago was it when the workers told you that because you have certainly changed over the last year or so and if they are still saying that they appreciate your spirit it doesn't say much about theirs. ~~ This senior sister workers and her companion two years ago. She knows me since my days on Guam 1980s.
Your posts put people off meetings not draw them. You've only talked about one person going to meeting because of your site and that was many years ago. How long ago was it Nathan. I have talked to many at work about the meetings. Site about 6 yrs ago. Others 10 yrs ago. I have met many and I don't keep tracks after 23 yrs of it.
Wally seems to be the only one supporting you on here. Professing people apart from him are certainly not supporting your posts. They've mostly stopped coming here because as soon as they speak out against your posts you start attacking them. There are others on here but they just read the board but they send me Private message. Hey, they speak and I speak and whatever they do is theirs business.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 3:08:23 GMT -5
Yes, the readers KNOW who is the Pathetic atheist liar on TMB. There is no God, and no heaven or hell. Remind me of a lie I have told? There is no God, no heaven or hell, you die then that is all to it.... These are some of your lies. Do you remember these lies? Like there is no world wide flood. Jesus is a myth.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 19, 2020 3:15:05 GMT -5
Remind me of a lie I have told? There is no God, no heaven or hell, you die then that is all to it.... These are some of your lies. Do you remember these lies? Like there is no world wide flood. Jesus is a myth. Sorry, -Nathan.
Those don't quality as "lies!"
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 19, 2020 3:57:08 GMT -5
Remind me of a lie I have told? There is no God, no heaven or hell, you die then that is all to it.... These are some of your lies. Do you remember these lies? Like there is no world wide flood. Jesus is a myth.I thought you might reply with something along these lines. I cannot find any evidence of a god or a world wide flood. Only the religious believe in your mythology and when asked for evidence they cannot produce anything of value. In my view I am stating the truth.
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Post by mountain on Jan 19, 2020 6:47:24 GMT -5
The term 'lie' as in the opposite of telling the truth is generally understood in legal terms as 'knowingly making a false statement with intent to deceive.'
Here is how one dictionary puts it.
noun
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture:
an inaccurate or false statement; a falsehood.
verb (used without object), lied, ly·ing.
to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.
to express what is false; convey a false impression.
verb (used with object), lied, ly·ing.
to bring about or affect by lying (often used reflexively):
to lie oneself out of a difficulty; accustomed to lying his way out of difficulties.
We are all capable of making false statements out of a genuine belief that the statement we are making is true. This does not make us liars. It just makes us wrong. We may have been told a lie by someone else, and in turn pass that information on in the belief that it is true. A common position. In these circumstances we are not liars. We have merely been deceived by an original liar, or someone genuinely believing a false statement to be true, and in turn we have merely been misled. We are merely wrong but are not liars.
One good possible example of this is:
I have stated that during World War II the German Wehrmacht's 1st Independent (Lunar) Artillery Battalion part-built a massive gun battery on the Moon to shell stragegic locations in Great Britain, the Soviet Union and the USA etc, according to the Moon's position in relation to the Earth. This information has come from Nathan's oft repeated statements that the Germans had bases on the Moon during that war. These statements may be true, but in the event that they prove (unlikely) to be untrue, this does not make Nathan or myself liars. It would merely reveal that we are wrong, a position resulting from having been deceived by statements from sources that we have believed to be true.
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Post by James on Jan 19, 2020 7:24:30 GMT -5
A few more pictures issued from the Convention. www.dropbox.com/sh/okxt93mhpx983m9/AADVnEoI2AQ8LrHlncg4l8jja?dl=0The names of those in the "Elders of State" photo (left to right) are: Alan Richardson (New Zealand) Wayne Dean (South Australia) Malcolm Clapham (Queensland) Graham Snow (West Australia) Alan Mitchell (Victoria/Tasmania) Allan Kitto (New South Wales)
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 10:36:55 GMT -5
There is no God, no heaven or hell, you die then that is all to it.... These are some of your lies. Do you remember these lies? Like there is no world wide flood. Jesus is a myth. I thought you might reply with something along these lines. I cannot find any evidence of a god or a world wide flood. Only the religious believe in your mythology and when asked for evidence they cannot produce anything of value. In my view I am stating the truth. Your view of truth is your lies to us/believers about the Godhead-Father, Christ and HolySpirit whom we serve and worship for all ETERNITY.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 10:41:35 GMT -5
The term 'lie' as in the opposite of telling the truth is generally understood in legal terms as 'knowingly making a false statement with intent to deceive.'
Here is how one dictionary puts it. noun: a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: an inaccurate or false statement; a falsehood. verb: (used without object), lied, ly·ing. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive. to express what is false; convey a false impression. verb: (used with object), lied, ly·ing. to bring about or affect by lying (often used reflexively): to lie oneself out of a difficulty; accustomed to lying his way out of difficulties. We are all capable of making false statements out of a genuine belief that the statement we are making is true. This does not make us liars. It just makes us wrong. We may have been told a lie by someone else, and in turn pass that information on in the belief that it is true. A common position. In these circumstances we are not liars. We have merely been deceived by an original liar, or someone genuinely believing a false statement to be true, and in turn we have merely been misled. We are merely wrong but are not liars. One good possible example of this is: I have stated that during World War II the German Wehrmacht's 1st Independent (Lunar) Artillery Battalion part-built a massive gun battery on the Moon to shell stragegic locations in Great Britain, the Soviet Union and the USA etc, according to the Moon's position in relation to the Earth. This information has come from Nathan's oft repeated statements that the Germans had bases on the Moon during that war. These statements may be true, but in the event that they prove (unlikely) to be untrue, this does not make Nath an or myself liars. It would merely reveal that we are wrong, a position resulting from having been deceived by statements from sources that we have believed to be true. Thanks, my old friend. You are good teacher and writer. Well, I try to back my understanding of the Bible and many of the topics I have posted the last 20 yrs, with scriptures evidences, documents and with many different sources so the readers can have ahead start and dig these things deeper for themselves.
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Post by openingact34 on Jan 19, 2020 10:47:21 GMT -5
making fun of someones command of english is pretty low there fixit.....especially when its not their native language.... Nathan has lived in an English speaking country for a long time now. English studies could be a better use of his time than Valient Thor and hollow earth and Jesus on Venus studies. Says the guy who spends his time mumbling pleas to a sky monster, studying an executed Jewish zombie, and partaking in ritualistic cannibalism.
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