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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 17:42:32 GMT -5
But remember Nathan is an online worker so no doubt modelling to the wider world, how workers speak in his church. The church he believes he can win souls into by writing on here ? Of course, I should expect some TMB condemnation for calling Nate out on his outburst to Curly. Good to know that some on here agree with me though. Nice Post to Curly:You are full of SH.T, and need to be flushed down the toilet. Maybe, your picture should be on those three ply toilet papers, I will buy tons of it and use it, myself with joy. Nice Post to Fixit:*** Did you read posts where curlytroll call me, wally, and others B.S and the workers pictures to put on toilet papers to wipe his AS. Then out of the blue you jump in without knowing what has taken place, you jabs me with your sharp knives below the belly. You are a scumbag in my book. *** What a pathetic guy! Look I have a few agree with me,... yea a bunch of Troll losers agree with you.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 17:48:27 GMT -5
Yes, the readers KNOW who is the Pathetic atheist liar on TMB. There is no God, and no heaven or hell. Remind me of a lie I have told? You'll have to specify which national standard will apply to the lie.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 17:53:30 GMT -5
The term 'lie' as in the opposite of telling the truth is generally understood in legal terms as 'knowingly making a false statement with intent to deceive.'
Here is how one dictionary puts it. noun: a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: an inaccurate or false statement; a falsehood. verb: (used without object), lied, ly·ing. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive. to express what is false; convey a false impression. verb: (used with object), lied, ly·ing. to bring about or affect by lying (often used reflexively): to lie oneself out of a difficulty; accustomed to lying his way out of difficulties. We are all capable of making false statements out of a genuine belief that the statement we are making is true. This does not make us liars. It just makes us wrong. We may have been told a lie by someone else, and in turn pass that information on in the belief that it is true. A common position. In these circumstances we are not liars. We have merely been deceived by an original liar, or someone genuinely believing a false statement to be true, and in turn we have merely been misled. We are merely wrong but are not liars. One good possible example of this is: I have stated that during World War II the German Wehrmacht's 1st Independent (Lunar) Artillery Battalion part-built a massive gun battery on the Moon to shell stragegic locations in Great Britain, the Soviet Union and the USA etc, according to the Moon's position in relation to the Earth. This information has come from Nathan's oft repeated statements that the Germans had bases on the Moon during that war. These statements may be true, but in the event that they prove (unlikely) to be untrue, this does not make Nath an or myself liars. It would merely reveal that we are wrong, a position resulting from having been deceived by statements from sources that we have believed to be true. Thanks, my old friend. You are good teacher and writer. Well, I try to back my understanding of the Bible and many of the topics I have posted the last 20 yrs, with scriptures evidences, documents and with many different sources so the readers can have ahead start and dig these things deeper for themselves.
Congratulations, you didn't lie. But you WERE wrong.
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Post by slowtosee on Jan 19, 2020 17:54:50 GMT -5
Ok , Just leaving the personal nonsense , for a moment . Is there any real hope of a change of policy or any real good , comes out of this meeting , that obviously is not a common meeting and has come about at significant cost , finances ,?time etc . Is the only “benefit “ a few pics and more “same same “ or ? Surely not go to this expense and excercise for only that ? No real issues addressed as none acknowledged? Alvin
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 17:56:45 GMT -5
That argument is the Christian's apologist's excuse to ignore the roots of evil and not attempt to do anything to stop the evil themselves.
It has to be "human rights".
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 18:09:28 GMT -5
This thread has become a complete disgrace. It was supposed to be about a very important 2x2 event, 160 Workers at Convention in Sydney. I don't know how that rates on the World scene, but is probably very historic. Credit to Ross for the OP and making TMB aware that it was happening. Also thank you James for providing interesting photos. Apart from that the rest of it has been rubbish. There is no way that any respectable 2x2 that I know would ever post this. "You are full of SH.T, and need to be flushed down the toilet. Maybe, your picture should be on those three ply toilet papers, I will buy tons of it and use it, myself with joy." One has to wonder if that person is a 2x2. The shame of it is, that all the respectable 2x2's that used to post, are no longer with us. Can you blame them, there is no way that they would wish to have fellowship with that type of person. 2x2 should be a forum that provides a link between 2x2's and ex's. That connection is being destroyed. In this New Year let us see that the standard can be raised, and restore TMB to the great forum it should be. ** You should tell your mate curlytroll to remember don't throw stones at people houses when he lives in a glass house himself.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 18:13:01 GMT -5
Thanks, my old friend. You are good teacher and writer. Well, I try to back my understanding of the Bible and many of the topics I have posted the last 20 yrs, with scriptures evidences, documents and with many different sources so the readers can have ahead start and dig these things deeper for themselves.
Congratulations, you didn't lie. But you WERE wrong. ** FYI, you THINK I am wrong but We are NOT Because it doesn't agree with what you have been taught by illuminati school system since middle school and through your teaching days. You probably, didn't know that did you. You were sheep lead to slaughter house! They told you what they want you to brain washed your students with in their heads. If you had taught differently your are FIRE!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 19, 2020 18:19:40 GMT -5
Ok , Just leaving the personal nonsense , for a moment . Is there any real hope of a change of policy or any real good , comes out of this meeting , that obviously is not a common meeting and has come about at significant cost , finances ,?time etc . Is the only “benefit “ a few pics and more “same same “ or ? Surely not go to this expense and excercise for only that ? No real issues addressed as none acknowledged? Alvin I’m not sure what you mean by common meeting, but workers have meetings routinely. This one in particular seemed to be timed to take advantage of other country’s workers that had visited the other saints’ conventions, so it’d seem likely they’re trying to come to a multi-country consensus on some issue(s).
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 18:20:54 GMT -5
Ok , Just leaving the personal nonsense , for a moment . Is there any real hope of a change of policy or any real good , comes out of this meeting , that obviously is not a common meeting and has come about at significant cost , finances ,?time etc . Is the only “benefit “ a few pics and more “same same “ or ? Surely not go to this expense and excercise for only that ? No real issues addressed as none acknowledged? Alvin I am aware of some thing(s) that have come out of such conventions as the one in Australia. But I am ALSO aware that most of the friends in the regions where such conventions have occurred are in general quite unaware that such conventions actually produced any change(s). I am quite sure that a great percentage of the workers in attendance at such conventions are either unaware of the changes; or if they are, they are opposed to the change(s). I am certain that no one will ever hear from any worker in attendance that any change(s) of consequence have occurred. I'm being cryptic -- I'm sheltering a leaker.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 18:22:43 GMT -5
Congratulations, you didn't lie. But you WERE wrong. ** FYI, you THINK I am wrong but We are NOT Because it doesn't agree with what you have been taught by illuminati school system since middle school and through your teaching days. You probably, didn't know that did you. You were sheep lead to slaughter house! They told you what they want you to brain washed your students with in their heads. If you had taught differently your are FIRE!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 18:23:10 GMT -5
This thread has become a complete disgrace. It was supposed to be about a very important 2x2 event, 160 Workers at Convention in Sydney. I don't know how that rates on the World scene, but is probably very historic. Credit to Ross for the OP and making TMB aware that it was happening. Also thank you James for providing interesting photos. Apart from that the rest of it has been rubbish. There is no way that any respectable 2x2 that I know would ever post this. "You are full of SH.T, and need to be flushed down the toilet. Maybe, your picture should be on those three ply toilet papers, I will buy tons of it and use it, myself with joy." One has to wonder if that person is a 2x2. The shame of it is, that all the respectable 2x2's that used to post, are no longer with us. Can you blame them, there is no way that they would wish to have fellowship with that type of person. 2x2 should be a forum that provides a link between 2x2's and ex's. That connection is being destroyed. In this New Year let us see that the standard can be raised, and restore TMB to the great forum it should be. oh please...curlytroll brings stuff on himself with continual belittling, put downs, labeling and disparaging remarks of christians, white folks, americans and sometimes males yet none of you say anything to that..go whine somewhere else....
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 19, 2020 18:36:03 GMT -5
This thread has become a complete disgrace. It was supposed to be about a very important 2x2 event, 160 Workers at Convention in Sydney. I don't know how that rates on the World scene, but is probably very historic. Credit to Ross for the OP and making TMB aware that it was happening. Also thank you James for providing interesting photos. Apart from that the rest of it has been rubbish. There is no way that any respectable 2x2 that I know would ever post this. "You are full of SH.T, and need to be flushed down the toilet. Maybe, your picture should be on those three ply toilet papers, I will buy tons of it and use it, myself with joy." One has to wonder if that person is a 2x2. The shame of it is, that all the respectable 2x2's that used to post, are no longer with us. Can you blame them, there is no way that they would wish to have fellowship with that type of person. 2x2 should be a forum that provides a link between 2x2's and ex's. That connection is being destroyed. In this New Year let us see that the standard can be raised, and restore TMB to the great forum it should be. oh please...curlytroll brings stuff on himself with continual belittling, put downs, labeling and disparaging remarks of christians, white folks, americans and sometimes males yet none of you say anything to that..go whine somewhere else.... But of course nathan doesn't do that does he @wally !!!
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 19, 2020 18:38:30 GMT -5
Yes that's true. Not enough time in the meetings. That I understand. But you could say 'You all don't understand you're worshiping the trinity when you take part in the emblems and my one wish is to do better in the future'. I believe all that can be said in 2 minutes, right? ** I did explained in my Sunday morning and they believed me because they were Ex-RCC and Pentecostal. I tried it with re workers some get it but others don't understand it. So are you saying that the people in your meeting agree with you that Jesus lives in Venus nathan ? If so did they tell you they agree or are you ASSUMING they agree ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 18:40:12 GMT -5
oh please...curlytroll brings stuff on himself with continual belittling, put downs, labeling and disparaging remarks of christians, white folks, americans and sometimes males yet none of you say anything to that..go whine somewhere else.... But of course nathan doesn't do that does he @wally !!! nathan is generally responding to a smart a$$ remark he rarely initiates put downs....
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 18:42:33 GMT -5
But of course nathan doesn't do that does he @wally !!! nathan is generally responding to a smart a$$ remark he rarely initiates put downs....
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 18:58:37 GMT -5
Ok , Just leaving the personal nonsense , for a moment . Is there any real hope of a change of policy or any real good , comes out of this meeting , that obviously is not a common meeting and has come about at significant cost , finances ,?time etc . Is the only “benefit “ a few pics and more “same same “ or ? Surely not go to this expense and excercise for only that ? No real issues addressed as none acknowledged? Alvin I’m not sure what you mean by common meeting, but workers have meetings routinely. This one in particular seemed to be timed to take advantage of other country’s workers that had visited the other saints’ conventions, so it’d seem likely they’re trying to come to a multi-country consensus on some issue(s). ** Yep! These visiting workers are overseers in their countries! They are invited to this important workers meetings started by GS for a good reason! Top of the list to implement the NEW CSA policy around the 2x2s world.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 19:01:04 GMT -5
This thread has become a complete disgrace. It was supposed to be about a very important 2x2 event, 160 Workers at Convention in Sydney. I don't know how that rates on the World scene, but is probably very historic. Credit to Ross for the OP and making TMB aware that it was happening. Also thank you James for providing interesting photos. Apart from that the rest of it has been rubbish. There is no way that any respectable 2x2 that I know would ever post this. "You are full of SH.T, and need to be flushed down the toilet. Maybe, your picture should be on those three ply toilet papers, I will buy tons of it and use it, myself with joy." One has to wonder if that person is a 2x2. The shame of it is, that all the respectable 2x2's that used to post, are no longer with us. Can you blame them, there is no way that they would wish to have fellowship with that type of person. 2x2 should be a forum that provides a link between 2x2's and ex's. That connection is being destroyed. In this New Year let us see that the standard can be raised, and restore TMB to the great forum it should be. oh please...curlytroll brings stuff on himself with continual belittling, put downs, labeling and disparaging remarks of christians, white folks, americans and sometimes males yet none of you say anything to that..go whine somewhere else.... ** They are mates so, they rally to pat each other in the back! What a bunch of hypocrites trolls.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 19:01:29 GMT -5
I’m not sure what you mean by common meeting, but workers have meetings routinely. This one in particular seemed to be timed to take advantage of other country’s workers that had visited the other saints’ conventions, so it’d seem likely they’re trying to come to a multi-country consensus on some issue(s). ** Yep! These visiting workers are overseers in their countries! They to this important workers meetings started by GS for a good reason! Top of the list to implement the NEW CSA policy around the 2x2s world. You MAY be right. But they've already claimed they have addressed that problem.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 19:07:12 GMT -5
** Yep! These visiting workers are overseers in their countries! They to this important workers meetings started by GS for a good reason! Top of the list to implement the NEW CSA policy around the 2x2s world. You MAY be right. But they've already claimed they have addressed that problem. Yes, I read the Australians new CSA Policy list... but it is good for ALL of the 160s workers come to an AGREEMENT this is the NEW LAW for all to adhere to, from NOW ON! no more sweeping CSA under the carpet, sending CSA workers to other states, countries, or hide them in another country where they can't do too much harms.
ZERO tolerance on CSA within the ministry and in the fellowship elders and saints. Report them to the authority first and let them sort these things out. Workers stay out and cooperate with the authority 110%.
Thanks, to Gram S and all the workers that supported him to get CSA eliminate within the ministry and fellowship! It has taken them too long but I am glad it's done now. Some of the friends, a worker and myself tried to WARN them how serious and detrimental to the victims with CSA back in the year 2000. I wish they had taken us seriously back then! by taken the time to search these things and prevent it ASAP. It would have SAVED a lot of tears, lives on many of the friends victims children.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 19:16:26 GMT -5
You MAY be right. But they've already claimed they have addressed that problem. Yes, I read the Australians new CSA Policy list... but it is good for ALL of the 160s workers come to an AGREEMENT this is the NEW LAW for all to adhere to and from NOW ON! no more sweeping CSA under the carpet, sending CSA workers to other states, countries, or hide them in another country where they can't do too much harms.
ZERO tolerance on CSA within the ministry and in the fellowship elders and saints. Report them to the authority first and let them sort these things out. Workers stay out and cooperate with the authority 110%.
Thanks, to Gram S and all the workers that supported him to get CSA eliminate within the ministry and fellowship! It has taken them too long but I am glad it's done now. Some of the friends, a worker and myself tried to WARN them how serious and detrimental to the victims with CSA back in the year 2000. I wish they had taken us seriously back then! by taken the time to search these things and prevent it ASAP. It would have SAVED a lot of tears, lives on many of the friends victims children.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 19, 2020 19:23:11 GMT -5
You MAY be right. But they've already claimed they have addressed that problem. Yes, I read the Australians new CSA Policy list... but it is good for ALL of the 160s workers come to an AGREEMENT this is the NEW LAW for all to adhere to and from NOW ON! no more sweeping CSA under the carpet, sending CSA workers to other states, countries, or hide them in another country where they can't do too much harms.
ZERO tolerance on CSA within the ministry and in the fellowship elders and saints. Report them to the authority first and let them sort these things out. Workers stay out and cooperate with the authority 110%.
Thanks, to Gram S and all the workers that supported him to get CSA eliminate within the ministry and fellowship! It has taken them too long but I am glad it's done now. Some of the friends, a worker and myself tried to WARN them how serious and detrimental to the victims with CSA back in the year 2000. I wish they had taken us seriously back then! by taken the time to search these things and prevent it ASAP. It would have SAVED a lot of tears, lives on many of the friends victims children.
I would say thanks to a lot of people like Ross.Bowden and others who were willing to stand up for those who have been abused. As for GS lets wait and see if there are any changes. There needs to be some in-house cleaning done first. So don't get too excited nathan !!
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 19:25:24 GMT -5
Yes, I read the Australians new CSA Policy list... but it is good for ALL of the 160s workers come to an AGREEMENT this is the NEW LAW for all to adhere to and from NOW ON! no more sweeping CSA under the carpet, sending CSA workers to other states, countries, or hide them in another country where they can't do too much harms.
ZERO tolerance on CSA within the ministry and in the fellowship elders and saints. Report them to the authority first and let them sort these things out. Workers stay out and cooperate with the authority 110%.
Thanks, to Gram S and all the workers that supported him to get CSA eliminate within the ministry and fellowship! It has taken them too long but I am glad it's done now. Some of the friends, a worker and myself tried to WARN them how serious and detrimental to the victims with CSA back in the year 2000. I wish they had taken us seriously back then! by taken the time to search these things and prevent it ASAP. It would have SAVED a lot of tears, lives on many of the friends victims children.
I wouldn't be surprised each of them at this workers meeting must signed their names that they had read the New CSA policy and pledge to OBEY and follow it to the fullest. They will have these NEW CSA policy documents to be read and signed with every worker around the world. This would BE so AWESOME! There will no EXCUSE for any worker to say Oh, I never get the memo!
When I was in the work in Washington and Oregon from 1984-93, the workers did NOT have any guideline from the overseers how to handle CSA. We just told the victims to forgive their abusers, pray for them and go on with their lives. So, the abusers go free and keep on abusing more children.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 19:49:31 GMT -5
But of course nathan doesn't do that does he @wally !!! nathan is generally responding to a smart a$$ remark he rarely initiates put downs.... Thanks, Wally... I am very mellow guy but don't push and force me into the corner, I will hit back harder.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 19, 2020 19:50:04 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised each of them at this workers meeting must signed their names that they had read the New CSA policy and pledge to OBEY and follow it to the fullest. They will have these NEW CSA policy documents to be read and signed with every worker around the world. This would BE so AWESOME! There will no EXCUSE for any worker to say Oh, I never get the memo!
Now read again what I wrote about the changes that come out of such conventions.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2020 19:56:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised each of them at this workers meeting must signed their names that they had read the New CSA policy and pledge to OBEY and follow it to the fullest. They will have these NEW CSA policy documents to be read and signed with every worker around the world. This would BE so AWESOME! There will no EXCUSE for any worker to say Oh, I never get the memo!
Now read again what I wrote about the changes that come out of such conventions. Tell me again what you wrote about the changes that come out such workers convention, please make sure people can read and understand your post clearly, no more tricks post, Bob.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 19:57:06 GMT -5
nathan is generally responding to a smart a$$ remark he rarely initiates put downs.... Thanks, Wally... I am very mellow guy but don't push and force me into the corner, I will hit back harder.Should it not be.........” but don’t push me in the corner by questioning, exposing or opposing my dogma, ..or questioning my imaginative state of mind, I will hit back harder”.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 19, 2020 19:57:07 GMT -5
Yes, I read the Australians new CSA Policy list... but it is good for ALL of the 160s workers come to an AGREEMENT this is the NEW LAW for all to adhere to and from NOW ON! no more sweeping CSA under the carpet, sending CSA workers to other states, countries, or hide them in another country where they can't do too much harms.
ZERO tolerance on CSA within the ministry and in the fellowship elders and saints. Report them to the authority first and let them sort these things out. Workers stay out and cooperate with the authority 110%.
Thanks, to Gram S and all the workers that supported him to get CSA eliminate within the ministry and fellowship! It has taken them too long but I am glad it's done now. Some of the friends, a worker and myself tried to WARN them how serious and detrimental to the victims with CSA back in the year 2000. I wish they had taken us seriously back then! by taken the time to search these things and prevent it ASAP. It would have SAVED a lot of tears, lives on many of the friends victims children.
I would say thanks to a lot of people like Ross.Bowden and others who were willing to stand up for those who have been abused. As for GS lets wait and see if there are any changes. There needs to be some in-house cleaning done first. So don't get too excited nathan !!
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 19, 2020 20:09:40 GMT -5
Congratulations, you didn't lie. But you WERE wrong. ** FYI, you THINK I am wrong but We are NOT Because it doesn't agree with what you have been taught by illuminati school system since middle school and through your teaching days. You probably, didn't know that did you. You were sheep lead to slaughter house! They told you what they want you to brain washed your students with in their heads. If you had taught differently your are FIRE! "Illuminati?" Nathan? -you who has fallen for about every conspiracy theory that comes down the pike including the one about the - surely you joke!
Of course I realize that you aren't joking because you simply don't understand rational thought which involves reasoning and logic and rests on scientific evidence.
Nathan, you are the one that relies on groundless information that is not accurate & often created by totally unreliable sources.
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