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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 17, 2020 18:03:53 GMT -5
Donn, Valiant Thors brother sure looks like a young Jimmy Stewart and Valiant reminds me of a young Cary Grant. ** These human looking angels look so beautiful...when you want to know what the angels of God look like there is your proof... Vailant,Donn Thor, Bill and Tanyia. Folks -- I will honestly assure you that when I first met Nathan he certainly qualified as an angelic Venusian himself. Are you still so good looking, Nathan?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 17, 2020 18:31:45 GMT -5
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Post by joanna on Jan 17, 2020 18:36:45 GMT -5
Do people in heaven know what is happening on earth? How could the cohort of people who believe in heaven know what is happening in some other (imaginary) dimension when they don't know what is happening on Earth when on Earth?
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Post by Annan on Jan 17, 2020 19:19:17 GMT -5
Donn, Valiant Thors brother sure looks like a young Jimmy Stewart and Valiant reminds me of a young Cary Grant. ** These human looking angels look so beautiful... when you want to know what the angels of God look like there is your proof... Vailant,Donn Thor, Bill and Tanyia. An unverified picture is not proof any anything. I give up.
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Post by snow on Jan 17, 2020 19:38:21 GMT -5
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 17, 2020 20:12:42 GMT -5
The book of Revelation is "believed" to have been written sometime around 96 CE, and the author may have been a Christian from Ephesus known as "John the Elder."
If this guess is true then, "John the apostle" would have been long dead by the time "John the Elder" guy wrote Revelations so there would have been no direct knowledge.They didn't have TV or radio, so story telling was their form of entertainment. There have been many many stories over the ages.
Yet it's an intriguing story which has endured 2,000 years, but that doesn't make it true anymore than the older Epic of Gilgamesh which goes back to (2150 - 1400 BCE)
A myth is not supported in fact, so it's called fiction. Thats why the bible belongs in the fiction section of the book store, not the non-ficton section.
You atheists have TOO much unbelief, doubts on almost EVERYTHING about God or anything concerning about spiritual things. John the apostle was quite elderly when he wrote epistles I, II, III. It is known John the apostle wrote the gospel of John, the epistles of John I,II,III and the book Revelation. John the apostle preached in Ephesus, and he died after he wrote the book of Revelation or I,II,III epistles of his by the end of the 1st century. He was known to be the last living one of the 12 apostles whom Jesus sent out in Matthew 10.
John the Apostle was born in 6AD. He died in 100AD. He was exiled to Patmos by Nero and his mother, sometime between 54 AD to 68AD; who managed to kill other apostles and saints. Nero committed suicide in 68 AD. John was released from Patmos after that and went to Ephesus. So if Revelations was written circa 94-95 AD, it’s very likely John the Apostle wrote it. It is only sensible to think that as John the Apostle was the beloved Apostle, that he’d be figured to be the friend of the bridegroom, Jesus Christ.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 17, 2020 20:18:08 GMT -5
I’ve thought all along those pictures he’d shown looked familiar. Hah! Just movie actors/actresses!
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Post by nathan on Jan 17, 2020 20:43:01 GMT -5
** These human looking angels look so beautiful...when you want to know what the angels of God look like there is your proof... Vailant,Donn Thor, Bill and Tanyia. Folks -- I will honestly assure you that when I first met Nathan he certainly qualified as an angelic Venusian himself. Are you still so good looking, Nathan? My wife says I still look the same as 35 yrs ago.... lost some hair, show some gray hair... Still have the youthful looks, my customers think I am about 40s, they can't believe I am 60s.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 17, 2020 20:44:26 GMT -5
Thank you Snow. I must watch that one day when it's minus 20 outside with snow up to the roof.
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Post by nathan on Jan 17, 2020 20:48:53 GMT -5
I’ve thought all along those pictures he’d shown looked familiar. Hah! Just movie actors/actresses! Eileen Davidson is an actress, who played Valiant Thor's Wife on the short film "Stranger at the Pentagon". I would NOT be surprised Valiant Thor's wife looks like that or more beautiful... His wife is also a Venusian human angel looking person. They have one daughter that we KNOW of, they have more children by now.
I saw the 20 min. short film "Stranger at the Pentagon" it was quite good and interesting! I can hardly wait to see the FULL length movie on Youtube "Stranger/ET at the Pentagon" Don't tell the workers, OK.
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Post by nathan on Jan 17, 2020 20:52:44 GMT -5
You atheists have TOO much unbelief, doubts on almost EVERYTHING about God or anything concerning about spiritual things. John the apostle was quite elderly when he wrote epistles I, II, III. It is known John the apostle wrote the gospel of John, the epistles of John I,II,III and the book Revelation. John the apostle preached in Ephesus, and he died after he wrote the book of Revelation or I,II,III epistles of his by the end of the 1st century. He was known to be the last living one of the 12 apostles whom Jesus sent out in Matthew 10.
John the Apostle was born in 6AD. He died in 100AD. He was exiled to Patmos by Nero and his mother, sometime between 54 AD to 68AD; who managed to kill other apostles and saints. Nero committed suicide in 68 AD. John was released from Patmos after that and went to Ephesus. So if Revelations was written circa 94-95 AD, it’s very likely John the Apostle wrote it. It is only sensible to think that as John the Apostle was the beloved Apostle, that he’d be figured to be the friend of the bridegroom, Jesus Christ. I agree with most of your post, but I think you got the TWO John's mixed up. The John be figured to be the friend of the bridegroom was John the Baptist. The apostle whom Jesus loved was John the apostle. Both John the Baptist and John the apostle were Jesus 1st and 2nd cousins.
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Post by nathan on Jan 17, 2020 21:02:45 GMT -5
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 17, 2020 21:38:00 GMT -5
John the Apostle was born in 6AD. He died in 100AD. He was exiled to Patmos by Nero and his mother, sometime between 54 AD to 68AD; who managed to kill other apostles and saints. Nero committed suicide in 68 AD. John was released from Patmos after that and went to Ephesus. So if Revelations was written circa 94-95 AD, it’s very likely John the Apostle wrote it. It is only sensible to think that as John the Apostle was the beloved Apostle, that he’d be figured to be the friend of the bridegroom, Jesus Christ. I agree with most of your post, but I think you got the TWO John's mixed up. The John be figured to be the friend of the bridegroom was John the Baptist. The apostle whom Jesus loved was John the apostle. Both John the Baptist and John the apostle were Jesus 1st and 2nd cousins.You’re right! But I’d heard older workers say that John the Apostle was the friend to the bridegroom and that’s why he was given the Revelations. Lah!
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Post by nathan on Jan 17, 2020 21:51:35 GMT -5
I agree with most of your post, but I think you got the TWO John's mixed up. The John be figured to be the friend of the bridegroom was John the Baptist. The apostle whom Jesus loved was John the apostle. Both John the Baptist and John the apostle were Jesus 1st and 2nd cousins. You’re right! But I’d heard older workers say that John the Apostle was the friend to the bridegroom and that’s why he was given the Revelations. Lah! ** Ok, thanks. I see, yes all of God's TRUE servants are liken unto John the Baptist, the friend of the bridegroom. They all point the bride= Christ's true church to follow the bridegroom of their souls. John the apostle's mother and Jesus's mother were sisters So, that made John, James and Jesus 1st cousins. Jesus knew John and James since they were young. That was one of the reasons Jesus loved John more than the rest of his apostles and disciples. Blood is thicker than water, Jesus put a lot of trust and Faith in john to record/wrote the book of Revelation and the gospel of John so all the world would KNOW Who Jesus is the WORD of GodChrist, the Almighty God, the Alpha and Omega.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 17, 2020 21:57:54 GMT -5
Ricky Gervais; hosted the Golden Globes FIVE times. Ever wonder why they keep inviting him back?
Ricky Gervais: alcoholic Compare him to the "daddy of incest" .... "Lot that most Righteous man". Which is the better example? Would the Golden Globes invite a guy like Lot to speak, or would they take Lot straight to jail for incest and laugh at his defense of "the girls made me do it"?
They want the rating! People like to watch the audience horrible faces and their reactions to his cruel jokes. The Golden globes asked Ricky to tone down his insults on the people who are receiving the awards. www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQrMGlIE79M Nathan! YOU watch the GOLDEN GLOBES?!
What do the workers think of that?
Here I am an atheist and I wouldn't bother spending my time watching the GOLDEN GLOBES?!
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Post by nathan on Jan 17, 2020 22:24:12 GMT -5
They want the rating! People like to watch the audience horrible faces and their reactions to his cruel jokes. The Golden globes asked Ricky to tone down his insults on the people who are receiving the awards. www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQrMGlIE79M Nathan! YOU watch the GOLDEN GLOBES?!
What do the workers think of that?
Here I am an atheist and I wouldn't bother spending my time watching the GOLDEN GLOBES?![/quote/] I grow up watching and knowing Many of these actors and actresses lives. So, I like to how what and how they are doing these days.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 17, 2020 22:43:09 GMT -5
You’re right! But I’d heard older workers say that John the Apostle was the friend to the bridegroom and that’s why he was given the Revelations. Lah! ** Ok, thanks. I see, yes all of God's TRUE servants are liken unto John the Baptist, the friend of the bridegroom. They all point the bride= Christ's true church to follow the bridegroom of their souls. John the apostle's mother and Jesus's mother were sisters So, that made John, James and Jesus 1st cousins. Jesus knew John and James since they were young. That was one of the reasons Jesus loved John more than the rest of his apostles and disciples. Blood is thicker than water, Jesus put a lot of trust and Faith in john to record/wrote the book of Revelation and the gospel of John so all the world would KNOW Who Jesus is the WORD of GodChrist, the Almighty God, the Alpha and Omega. They’ve estimated Jesus born in 4 BC and John was born in 6 AD which John was 10 years younger then Jesus. But James was older then John so some say. Most the time it says “James and John” which typically denotes James to be older then John.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 18, 2020 0:16:54 GMT -5
** Ok, thanks. I see, yes all of God's TRUE servants are liken unto John the Baptist, the friend of the bridegroom. They all point the bride= Christ's true church to follow the bridegroom of their souls. John the apostle's mother and Jesus's mother were sisters So, that made John, James and Jesus 1st cousins. Jesus knew John and James since they were young. That was one of the reasons Jesus loved John more than the rest of his apostles and disciples. Blood is thicker than water, Jesus put a lot of trust and Faith in john to record/wrote the book of Revelation and the gospel of John so all the world would KNOW Who Jesus is the WORD of GodChrist, the Almighty God, the Alpha and Omega. They’ve estimated Jesus born in 4 BC and John was born in 6 AD which John was 10 years younger then Jesus. But James was older then John so some say. Most the time it says “James and John” which typically denotes James to be older then John. I continue to find it interesting, STR, -that you seem to think the use of "They" constitutes a reliable source for accurate information.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 18, 2020 1:26:23 GMT -5
They’ve estimated Jesus born in 4 BC and John was born in 6 AD which John was 10 years younger then Jesus. But James was older then John so some say. Most the time it says “James and John” which typically denotes James to be older then John. I continue to find it interesting, STR, -that you seem to think the use of "They" constitutes a reliable source for accurate information.You know I use my iPhone so I don’t like to wast my time looking up all the sources I be read just to have you atheists to debunk them anyway. I say “they “ because there usually are at least two if not more I’m getting my information from. I figure if you really are interested in what Im saying you’d look it up for yourself. But it appears all you want to do it be negative about whatever I post. Besides I’ve usually already have posted net sites and I don’t think it’d absolutely necessary to keep repeating that.
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Post by jetmech on Jan 18, 2020 10:43:26 GMT -5
I don't believe ANYONE in the mafia has a chance in hades of being "GOD's CHOSEN" or angelic-like. I sure hope not anyway.
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Post by Annan on Jan 18, 2020 11:44:42 GMT -5
If you look at the original actors in The Day the Earth Stood Still, they look a lot like the photos of Val Thor and company. Google. I did. Didn't feel like uploading and posting the pics.
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Post by maryhig on Jan 18, 2020 11:58:07 GMT -5
I saw this question the other day, and I thought about it, then I decided the question should be "DO ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ON EARTH?"
I mean … not everyone is going to heaven. So, I question: DOES 'ANYONE' WHO HAS DIED, KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ON EARTH?
Revelation CH 6 speaks about the Martyrs in heaven when it says " … I could see, beneath the altar, the souls of those who had been killed for the sake of the Word of GOD and because of the faithfulness of their witness. They cried out in a loud voice, saying, " How long, O LORD, holy and true, until you judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth …?" REV: 6:9
To quote Pastor Greg Laurie: " … Those Martyrs have died, they've gone home to be with the Lord, they're with Jesus in the present heaven, and this is their present state of mind. Aren't they clearly remembering their lives on earth ..?"
and as Pastor Greg Laurie says: " … Some say that of all the things we remember about our lives on earth after we die, surely we don't remember the "bad" things … well how much worse can it be than to have been murdered ..?"
I do like too how Pastor Greg Laurie explains that GOD obviously has not brought about judgement on the earth yet, because of the questions in the cry of the Martyrs.
Pastor Greg Laurie doesn't mention though the people who do not go to heaven when they die … I'm wondering can they too see what's happening on the earth?
This is something I contemplate often … can my deceased love ones, and people who I grew up with in the truth who have all died, still see what is happening upon the earth? Can they see ME and what I do every day?
Reference: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXTEa8wBhp0&t=284s
I believe those in heaven are helping us here on the earth.
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Post by nathan on Jan 18, 2020 12:25:05 GMT -5
I saw this question the other day, and I thought about it, then I decided the question should be "DO ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ON EARTH?"
I mean … not everyone is going to heaven. So, I question: DOES 'ANYONE' WHO HAS DIED, KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ON EARTH?
Revelation CH 6 speaks about the Martyrs in heaven when it says " … I could see, beneath the altar, the souls of those who had been killed for the sake of the Word of GOD and because of the faithfulness of their witness. They cried out in a loud voice, saying, " How long, O LORD, holy and true, until you judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth …?" REV: 6:9
To quote Pastor Greg Laurie: " … Those Martyrs have died, they've gone home to be with the Lord, they're with Jesus in the present heaven, and this is their present state of mind. Aren't they clearly remembering their lives on earth ..?"
and as Pastor Greg Laurie says: " … Some say that of all the things we remember about our lives on earth after we die, surely we don't remember the "bad" things … well how much worse can it be than to have been murdered ..?"
I do like too how Pastor Greg Laurie explains that GOD obviously has not brought about judgement on the earth yet, because of the questions in the cry of the Martyrs.
Pastor Greg Laurie doesn't mention though the people who do not go to heaven when they die … I'm wondering can they too see what's happening on the earth?
This is something I contemplate often … can my deceased love ones, and people who I grew up with in the truth who have all died, still see what is happening upon the earth? Can they see ME and what I do every day?
Reference: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXTEa8wBhp0&t=284s
I believe those in heaven are helping us here on the earth. *** The believers in heaven are praying and cheering us to keep on fight the battles to the end. Read Hebrews chapter 11 We read about the great cloud of old test believersWitnesses and now there is a greater cloud witnesses of Gentiles that no man can count add to the great cloud of Witnesses.
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Post by mountain on Jan 18, 2020 12:28:13 GMT -5
Well, Geeze, Ram! I thought everyone knew that!
Of course women are from Venus and men are from Mars!
Venus is the Roman goddess of love & beauty, While Mars is the ancient Roman god of war.
Sounds as if someone needs to read up on their Roman history!
This is a certainty and just goes to show that it is better to have several different sources of information rather than relying on just one source, like I do with Nathan.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 18, 2020 12:30:57 GMT -5
Well, Geeze, Ram! I thought everyone knew that!
Of course women are from Venus and men are from Mars!
Venus is the Roman goddess of love & beauty, While Mars is the ancient Roman god of war.
Sounds as if someone needs to read up on their Roman history!
This is a certainty and just goes to show that it is better to have several different sources of information rather than relying on just one source, like I do with Nathan. Nathan is the fount of all fiction from Fenus
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Post by mountain on Jan 18, 2020 12:31:27 GMT -5
What do you mean by your post? Can you explain it clearer because I don't understand your point. Thanks. The government spends millions on getting people into space. Can't the venusians just take them there? I know....they need the ticket of salvation. Venus is the place for the saved, inner earth is the place for the unsaved. You need faith to be able to get into Venus, faith that it is heaven in order to gain entry there. I'm trying to figure out how it all works. Just 'believe'and you will be okay.
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Post by snow on Jan 18, 2020 13:06:42 GMT -5
If you look at the original actors in The Day the Earth Stood Still, they look a lot like the photos of Val Thor and company. Google. I did. Didn't feel like uploading and posting the pics. Yes Michael Rennie.
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Post by xna on Jan 18, 2020 13:08:53 GMT -5
Folks -- I will honestly assure you that when I first met Nathan he certainly qualified as an angelic Venusian himself. Are you still so good looking, Nathan? My wife says I still look the same as 35 yrs ago.... lost some hair, show some gray hair... Still have the youthful looksHow are her eyes? ;-)
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