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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 8, 2019 13:12:29 GMT -5
That's what I was taught growing up in the 2x2 way. Thanks, that is how I understand it too, and MANY of the early days workers and friends believe the same way. There are so much confusion and many different interpretation on the Trinity/Godhead and Jesus is Not God out there and the lack understanding on the topic with MANY people. It has caused a lot of confusion among the workers in 1950s among the workers and friends so they became anti- Trinity and Jesus is NOT God; the Trinity is the RCC heresy teaching and pagans belief, the friends believe these workers teachings as the gospel TRUTH without question. NOW, we have a BIG MESS on our hands and it will take yrs to UNDO these anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God teachings among us. The effectual prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 8, 2019 13:13:22 GMT -5
I love the verse in Timothy 3:16- “ Great is the MYSTERY of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles,believed on in the world, received up into Glory.” If we have a MYSTERY- let us go unto the one who is the author and finisher of our faith to get our own revelation. Worked for me! No comment on the revelation of Esteban Santiago? I worked at a psychiatric institute for a number of years and have listened to scores of young adults suffering from schizophrenia who were just as sure of their revelation as you seem to be. From what you have posted you could well be suffering some form of schizophrenia. How would you know? How would you know?
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Post by maryhig on Dec 8, 2019 13:32:28 GMT -5
It still means he was MADE a priest and he was made Lord over us, he was also exalted, anointed, set at the right hand of God, by his God. Acts 2 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, THAT GOD HATH MADE the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both LORD AND CHRIST. You’re not paying heed to the what those two verses are saying. It says : “...Unto HIM that LOVED and WASHED us from our sins in HIS OWN blood. AND hath MADE US kings and priests unto GOD AND HIS FATHER;” Not one word about him being made priest or king; but US being made priests and kings UNTO GOD AND HIS FATHER. Hebrews 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, MADE an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 8, 2019 13:44:59 GMT -5
You’re not paying heed to the what those two verses are saying. It says : “...Unto HIM that LOVED and WASHED us from our sins in HIS OWN blood. AND hath MADE US kings and priests unto GOD AND HIS FATHER;” Not one word about him being made priest or king; but US being made priests and kings UNTO GOD AND HIS FATHER. Hebrews 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, MADE an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Pay attention to the verse I quoted. We will return as kings and priests to reign with Christ in his millennial reign.
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Post by nathan on Dec 8, 2019 13:50:20 GMT -5
No comment on the revelation of Esteban Santiago? I worked at a psychiatric institute for a number of years and have listened to scores of young adults suffering from schizophrenia who were just as sure of their revelation as you seem to be. From what you have posted you could well be suffering some form of schizophrenia. How would you know? How would you know? *** Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jocob, Joseph, Moses, king David and Solomon and many OT prophets and Jesus people heard the voice from God speaking to them audibly and put thoughts in their head... According to rational diag. These guys must be schizo...
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Post by rational on Dec 8, 2019 14:34:10 GMT -5
No comment on the revelation of Esteban Santiago? I worked at a psychiatric institute for a number of years and have listened to scores of young adults suffering from schizophrenia who were just as sure of their revelation as you seem to be. From what you have posted you could well be suffering some form of schizophrenia. How would you know? How would you know? Exactly.
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Post by rational on Dec 8, 2019 14:34:59 GMT -5
*** Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jocob, Joseph, Moses, king David and Solomon and many OT prophets and Jesus people heard the voice from God speaking to them audibly and put thoughts in their head... According to rational diag. These guys must be schizo... No, it just doesn't mean it is god speaking...
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Post by nathan on Dec 8, 2019 16:46:50 GMT -5
*** Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jocob, Joseph, Moses, king David and Solomon and many OT prophets and Jesus people heard the voice from God speaking to them audibly and put thoughts in their head... According to rational diag. These guys must be schizo... No, it just doesn't mean it is god speaking... *** You have NOT experience these things yourself personally so, no wonder you don't believe it. Some of us have these experiences happened to us. God spoke to me through dreams with audibly voice and I remember the words/instruction for my life during the nights twice when I was 18 and 26 yrs old. I have written about these two dreams in the past on TMB.
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Post by snow on Dec 8, 2019 16:54:01 GMT -5
No comment on the revelation of Esteban Santiago? I worked at a psychiatric institute for a number of years and have listened to scores of young adults suffering from schizophrenia who were just as sure of their revelation as you seem to be. From what you have posted you could well be suffering some form of schizophrenia. How would you know? How would you know? Well first I would give them medication and if that cleared up the voices, we'd know what caused them I suppose.
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Post by snow on Dec 8, 2019 16:55:47 GMT -5
*** Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jocob, Joseph, Moses, king David and Solomon and many OT prophets and Jesus people heard the voice from God speaking to them audibly and put thoughts in their head... According to rational diag. These guys must be schizo... Do we know they aren't though? There is always that possibility. I'm not saying they were, but it's possible because that's a symptom of schizophrenia, hearing voices in their heads and/or having visual hallucinations.
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Post by nathan on Dec 8, 2019 17:38:36 GMT -5
*** Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jocob, Joseph, Moses, king David and Solomon and many OT prophets and Jesus people heard the voice from God speaking to them audibly and put thoughts in their head... According to rational diag. These guys must be schizo... Do we know they aren't though? There is always that possibility. I'm not saying they were, but it's possible because that's a symptom of schizophrenia, hearing voices in their heads and/or having visual hallucinations. No, hallucination or whatsoever... It happened to me twice in my lifetime and others have similar experiences. It changed my LIFE for the BEST! so far and I am NOT schizophrenic or Crazy either. Some on there think I am but they crazy for NOT believing in me. The TEST is in the pudding.
God told Enoch He was going to flood the whole earth because of the evilness had taken place by the Nephilim/giants on the earth tried to destroy mankind and ALL of God's creation on earth, and the world wide came in the days of His great grand son Noah. God spoke to him audibly to build and Ark and he obeyed and SAVED his life and the life of family (8 souls).
Noah tried to preach the message of the coming world wide flood for 120 yrs, but the people laughed at him to scorn then ONE days. God opened up the flood gate of water/ocean came up from the inner earth and He poured down water from heaven for many days until it covered the whole earth for 150 days, and it reached above MT. Everett.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 8, 2019 17:49:34 GMT -5
Do we know they aren't though? There is always that possibility. I'm not saying they were, but it's possible because that's a symptom of schizophrenia, hearing voices in their heads and/or having visual hallucinations. No, hallucination or whatsoever... It happened to me twice in my lifetime and others have similar experiences. It changed my LIFE for the BEST! so far and I am NOT schizophrenic or Crazy either. Some on there think I am but they crazy for NOT believing in me. The TEST is in the pudding.
God told Enoch He was going to flood the whole earth because of the evilness had taken place by the Nephilim/giants on the earth tried to destroy mankind and ALL of God's creation on earth, and the world wide came in the days of His great grand son Noah. God spoke to him audibly to build and Ark and he obeyed and SAVED his life and the life of family (8 souls).
Noah tried to preach the message of the coming world wide flood for 120 yrs, but the people laughed him to scorn then ONE day God opened the flood gate of water/ocean came up from the inner earth and He poured down water from heaven for many days until it covered the whole earth, reached above MT. Everett.
Crazy people never recognize, and thus can't admit, that they are indeed crazy.
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Post by nathan on Dec 8, 2019 17:51:42 GMT -5
No, hallucination or whatsoever... It happened to me twice in my lifetime and others have similar experiences. It changed my LIFE for the BEST! so far and I am NOT schizophrenic or Crazy either. Some on there think I am but they crazy for NOT believing in me. The TEST is in the pudding.
God told Enoch He was going to flood the whole earth because of the evilness had taken place by the Nephilim/giants on the earth tried to destroy mankind and ALL of God's creation on earth, and the world wide came in the days of His great grand son Noah. God spoke to him audibly to build and Ark and he obeyed and SAVED his life and the life of family (8 souls).
Noah tried to preach the message of the coming world wide flood for 120 yrs, but the people laughed him to scorn then ONE day God opened the flood gate of water/ocean came up from the inner earth and He poured down water from heaven for many days until it covered the whole earth, reached above MT. Everett.
Crazy people never recognize, and thus can't admit, that they are indeed crazy. Like yourself? You once believed in these things for over 50 yrs now, you believe ONLY CRAZY believe it. You are CRAZY for sure. This is TRULY sad indeed.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 8, 2019 17:57:40 GMT -5
Crazy people never recognize, and thus can't admit, that they are indeed crazy. Like yourself? You once believed in these things for over 50 yrs now, you believe ONLY CRAZY believe it. You are CRAZY for sure. This is TRULY sad indeed. At least I KNOW I'm crazy.
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Post by nathan on Dec 8, 2019 18:03:02 GMT -5
Like yourself? You once believed in these things for over 50 yrs now, you believe ONLY CRAZY believe it. You are CRAZY for sure. This is TRULY sad indeed. At least I KNOW I'm crazy. I was CRAZY before like Legion man we read in the gospel, then after I met and accepted Jesus Christ as My Savior I was set free in 1978. I had told my testimony before.
I hope someday you will no longer be CRAZY , I hope you seek help in Jesus.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 8, 2019 18:07:56 GMT -5
At least I KNOW I'm crazy. I was CRAZY before like Legion man we read in the gospel, then after I met and accepted Jesus Christ as My Savior I was set free in 1978. I had told my testimony before.
I hope someday you will no longer be CRAZY , I hope you seek help in Jesus.Does that advice involve associating with the workers?
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Post by reborn on Dec 8, 2019 18:15:31 GMT -5
No, hallucination or whatsoever... It happened to me twice in my lifetime and others have similar experiences. It changed my LIFE for the BEST! so far and I am NOT schizophrenic or Crazy either. Some on there think I am but they crazy for NOT believing in me. The TEST is in the pudding.
God told Enoch He was going to flood the whole earth because of the evilness had taken place by the Nephilim/giants on the earth tried to destroy mankind and ALL of God's creation on earth, and the world wide came in the days of His great grand son Noah. God spoke to him audibly to build and Ark and he obeyed and SAVED his life and the life of family (8 souls).
Noah tried to preach the message of the coming world wide flood for 120 yrs, but the people laughed him to scorn then ONE day God opened the flood gate of water/ocean came up from the inner earth and He poured down water from heaven for many days until it covered the whole earth, reached above MT. Everett.
Crazy people never recognize, and thus can't admit, that they are indeed crazy. Btw... I would take a MD or a PHD to actually diagnose a individual. Are you trying to be Dr.Bob on top of Author Bob?
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 8, 2019 18:17:43 GMT -5
Crazy people never recognize, and thus can't admit, that they are indeed crazy. Btw... I would take a MD or a PHD to actually diagnose a individual. Are you trying to be Dr.Bob on top of Author Bob? No. I'm just trying to remind Nathan that he's not yet been appropriately diagnosed.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 8, 2019 18:18:25 GMT -5
But you quickly discount the indwelling Holy Spirit of the believers!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 8, 2019 18:19:34 GMT -5
Like yourself? You once believed in these things for over 50 yrs now, you believe ONLY CRAZY believe it. You are CRAZY for sure. This is TRULY sad indeed. At least I KNOW I'm crazy. I’ve always heard it helps! 😃
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 8, 2019 18:21:37 GMT -5
At least I KNOW I'm crazy. I’ve always heard it helps! 😃 Of course. When you know you're crazy people leave you alone, except for other undiagnosed crazies.
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Post by nathan on Dec 8, 2019 18:22:10 GMT -5
I was CRAZY before like Legion man we read in the gospel, then after I met and accepted Jesus Christ as My Savior I was set free in 1978. I had told my testimony before.
I hope someday you will no longer be CRAZY , I hope you seek help in Jesus. Does that advice involve associating with the workers? Well, God lead me to the workers. I personally had my dealing with God first for months before He sent me to see the workers so, I better listened to Him and accept their help. Before Jesus sent out His servants he said in Matthew 10:40 " He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. And in Luke 10:16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me."
Well, it was a VERY good experience with the workers they helped us a lot in many things. Leo S. the senior helped me to Understand Jesus is the LORD Christ/God in the Old Testament! Jesus Christ New Testament ministry, and the Sunday morning worship fellowship with God the Father, Christ/God our Savior and Holy Spirit.
The Sunday morning meetings is a TRINITY fellowship/worship for the believers, that revelation from God came to me a few years ago. It's hit me like a Lightning BOLT! from heaven. Once a person understands Christ is God, that came down from heaven to die for our sins in the person Jesus Man/God 2000 years ago, the scriptures open up like I never seen it before. WOW!
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Post by reborn on Dec 8, 2019 18:22:16 GMT -5
Btw... I would take a MD or a PHD to actually diagnose a individual. Are you trying to be Dr.Bob on top of Author Bob? No. I'm just trying to remind Nathan than he's not yet been appropriately diagnosed. And you would have a absolutely zero ability to even suggest any would need to be diagnosed. Be kind Bob.
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Post by nathan on Dec 8, 2019 18:24:53 GMT -5
Btw... I would take a MD or a PHD to actually diagnose a individual. Are you trying to be Dr.Bob on top of Author Bob? No. I'm just trying to remind Nathan than he's not yet been appropriately diagnosed. Diagnosed BY whom? by you, the guy who admits he is CRAZY? as a looney.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 8, 2019 18:27:39 GMT -5
I was CRAZY before like Legion man we read in the gospel, then after I met and accepted Jesus Christ as My Savior I was set free in 1978. I had told my testimony before.
I hope someday you will no longer be CRAZY , I hope you seek help in Jesus. Does that advice involve associating with the workers? It’s best to stick with the Bible these days in what has been prophesied. As to that, it’s no crazy illusion, Jesus will appear to collect his saints from the four corners of the earth. (I think you questioned that as if Jesus thought the earth flat.). The 7 year tribulation then the second coming of Jesus in a millennial reign when it will be a peaceful time with righteousness upon the earth. Then a short time of a newly released Satan hath pure fury and gathers the people from all the world to fight against Jesus and his saints at the New earthly Jerusalem, then the end of the world, a Great White Throne judgment and the new heavenly Jerusalem descending down to Jesus and his saints to go into the new heaven and earth prepared for them.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 8, 2019 18:30:29 GMT -5
No. I'm just trying to remind Nathan than he's not yet been appropriately diagnosed. And you would have a absolutely zero ability to even suggest any would need to be diagnosed. Be kind Bob. Now, now, reborn! You’ve apparently not seen a lot of Nathan’s unearthly dreams of sci-fi that’s mixed in with his biblical prowess. So be fair, eh? 😉
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 8, 2019 18:31:30 GMT -5
No. I'm just trying to remind Nathan than he's not yet been appropriately diagnosed. And you would have a absolutely zero ability to even suggest any would need to be diagnosed. Be kind Bob. BTW, hadn’t you heard, it takes one to know one? 😀
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 8, 2019 18:32:48 GMT -5
Does that advice involve associating with the workers? Well, God lead me to the workers. I personally had my dealing with God first for months before He sent me to see the workers so, I better listened to Him and accept their help. Before Jesus sent out His servants he said in Matthew 10:40 " He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. And in Luke 10:16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me."
Well, it was a VERY good experience with the workers they helped us a lot in many things. Leo S. the senior helped me to Understand Jesus is the LORD Christ/God in the Old Testament! Jesus Christ New Testament ministry, and the Sunday morning worship fellowship with God the Father, Christ/God our Savior and Holy Spirit.
The Sunday morning meetings is a TRINITY fellowship/worship for the believers, that revelation from God came to me a few years ago.
Does that advice involve ME associating with the workers?
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