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Post by chuck on Nov 29, 2019 23:29:31 GMT -5
The so called only true Ministry cannot even get this right!. "Matthew 28:16-20 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Yet somehow this confirms the 2x2 is the correct way. They sure have strayed from teaching Jesus is God!. Strayed from or never really actually acknowledge the Grace of God. All sorts of traditions continuously change, For the so called "TRUTH" it seems to to be ever changing, which is really weird because Jesus's is the same yesterday, today, forever!. How can the perfect way get it so wrong all of the time!. You are a 2x2 and don't KNOW the basic teachings of the workers/apostles or Jesus New Testament teachings.
Don't worry, the early workers had believed and taught the Trinity, Jesus is God and the Sunday Morning worship gathering is TRINITY/Triune God= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit Worship!... If many of the current workers and the friends understand this they will reconsider their stance on anti-Trinity, and Jesus is NOT God because they STILL keep the Sunday Worship/Trinity! .... While there is life there is hope for them. Once God has opened their eyes! Christ is God and man/Jesus. The glorious gospel will prosper again like in the Old days!
Nathan the Gospel always prospers. Again tying it to the 2x2's is false. Dung!. The Gospel is good news when we acknowledge we cannot and do not earn and our salvation. The work is complete, Christ has sat down! You do not need 2x2 tradition or ministry to know this!.
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Post by nathan on Nov 29, 2019 23:31:22 GMT -5
You are a 2x2 and don't KNOW the basic teachings of the workers/apostles or Jesus New Testament teachings.
Don't worry, the early workers had believed and taught the Trinity, Jesus is God and the Sunday Morning worship gathering is TRINITY/Triune God= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit Worship!... If many of the current workers and the friends understand this they will reconsider their stance on anti-Trinity, and Jesus is NOT God because they STILL keep the Sunday Worship/Trinity! .... While there is life there is hope for them. Once God has opened their eyes! Christ is God and man/Jesus. The glorious gospel will prosper again like in the Old days!
Nathan the Gospel always prospers. Again tying it to the 2x2's is false. Dung!. The Gospel is good news when we acknowledge we cannot and do not earn and our salvation. The work is complete, Christ has sat down! You do not need 2x2 tradition or ministry to know this!. What a bunch of baloney! you believe in, no wonder it comes from a 2x2 non-exclusive believer. We/believers don't earn our Salvation! Salvation is a FREE gift from God/Christ Himself! He paid for our sins. No human being on earth can earn their Salvation through good works! Why, NOT? because we/humans are SINNERS! before God. We are tainted with all kinds of sins, we can't be in the presence of God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit. Without Christ/God death on Calvary's Cross in the person Jesus we humans have NO HOPE or eternal life, period.
The works that we do AFTER we have received Salvation that is to glorify God the Father and Jesus on earth, our good works are added to our rewards in heaven when He comes again to RULE and REIGN in His kingdom on earth.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Nov 29, 2019 23:40:34 GMT -5
The amusing part is that the Workers don't even agree with nathan 's "story" chuck !!! Imagine going to the Workers and asking them about Peter Waldo !!! But as usually nathan thinks he knows more than the Workers !!! I really don't know why he doesn't start his own church ! hahaha... I started my own Jesus 2x2 church on TMB or similar boards to it, 20 yrs ago... I am the first internet worker, Wally and Jetmech are my companions, didn't you know that... You should KNOW that by now, RT. jesus christ, you have delusions of grandeur. How about you pop off to your local trick cyclist for some treatment.
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Post by nathan on Nov 29, 2019 23:55:53 GMT -5
hahaha... I started my own Jesus 2x2 church on TMB or similar boards to it, 20 yrs ago... I am the first internet worker, Wally and Jetmech are my companions, didn't you know that... You should KNOW that by now, RT. jesus christ, you have delusions of grandeur. How about you pop off to your local trick cyclist for some treatment. Yea, right.... Just like your own tiny brain delusional there is no Heaven, HADES, or God and Christ/Jesus.
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Post by chuck on Nov 30, 2019 0:08:20 GMT -5
Nathan the Gospel always prospers. Again tying it to the 2x2's is false. Dung!. The Gospel is good news when we acknowledge we cannot and do not earn and our salvation. The work is complete, Christ has sat down! You do not need 2x2 tradition or ministry to know this!. What a bunch of baloney! you believe in, no wonder it comes from a 2x2 non-exclusive believer. We/believers don't earn our Salvation! Salvation is a FREE gift from God/Christ Himself! He paid for our sins. No human being on earth can earn their Salvation through good works! Why, NOT? because we/humans are SINNERS! before God. We are tainted with all kinds of sins, we can't be in the presence of God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit. Without Christ/God death on Calvary's Cross in the person Jesus we humans have NO HOPE or eternal life, period.
The works that we do AFTER we have received Salvation that is to glorify God the Father and Jesus on earth, our good works are added to our rewards in heaven when He comes again to RULE and REIGN in His kingdom on earth.
When wil you see that your reliance on the 2x2 system is works and goes against everything you just said above. The thief on the cross didn need the 2x2 system or and other religious system. Neither does anyone else!. Dung!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Nov 30, 2019 0:13:44 GMT -5
jesus christ, you have delusions of grandeur. How about you pop off to your local trick cyclist for some treatment. Yea, right.... Just like your own tiny brain delusional there is no Heaven, HADES, or God and Christ/Jesus.Even my tiny brain can now see that the bible is a mythical load of horse manure.
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Post by nathan on Nov 30, 2019 0:20:18 GMT -5
What a bunch of baloney! you believe in, no wonder it comes from a 2x2 non-exclusive believer. We/believers don't earn our Salvation! Salvation is a FREE gift from God/Christ Himself! He paid for our sins. No human being on earth can earn their Salvation through good works! Why, NOT? because we/humans are SINNERS! before God. We are tainted with all kinds of sins, we can't be in the presence of God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit. Without Christ/God death on Calvary's Cross in the person Jesus we humans have NO HOPE or eternal life, period.
The works that we do AFTER we have received Salvation that is to glorify God the Father and Jesus on earth, our good works are added to our rewards in heaven when He comes again to RULE and REIGN in His kingdom on earth.
When wil you see that your reliance on the 2x2 system is works and goes against everything you just said above. The thief on the cross didn need the 2x2 system or and other religious system. Neither does anyone else!. Dung! You are one mixed up 2x2, non-exclusive, chuckie. You know your non-exclusive 2x2 type believer will NOT last long in our 2x2 exclusive fellowship, you will leave us/2x2 Cult as you call them. Eventually, you will show your true color and leave. You will NOT be the first non-exclusive 2x2 one on TMB, there were others like you who came on TMB and a few years later they became an ex-2x2s.
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Post by nathan on Nov 30, 2019 0:34:42 GMT -5
Yea, right.... Just like your own tiny brain delusional there is no Heaven, HADES, or God and Christ/Jesus. Even my tiny brain can now see that the bible is a mythical load of horse manure. Well, after death you will find out who is a load of horse manure, you or God. I put my faith in God and you can put your faith in your tiny atheist brain of yours.
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Post by chuck on Nov 30, 2019 0:40:50 GMT -5
When wil you see that your reliance on the 2x2 system is works and goes against everything you just said above. The thief on the cross didn need the 2x2 system or and other religious system. Neither does anyone else!. Dung! You are one mixed up 2x2, non-exclusive, chuckie. You know your non-exclusive 2x2 type believer will NOT last long in our 2x2 exclusive fellowship, you will leave us/2x2 Cult as you call them. Eventually, you will show your true color and leave. You will NOT be the first non-exclusive 2x2 one on TMB, there were others like you who came on TMB and a few years later they became an ex-2x2s.
The Grace of God is not exclusive to 2x2's Nathan!.
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Post by nathan on Nov 30, 2019 0:59:39 GMT -5
You are one mixed up 2x2, non-exclusive, chuckie. You know your non-exclusive 2x2 type believer will NOT last long in our 2x2 exclusive fellowship, you will leave us/2x2 Cult as you call them. Eventually, you will show your true color and leave. You will NOT be the first non-exclusive 2x2 one on TMB, there were others like you who came on TMB and a few years later they became an ex-2x2s.
The Grace of God is not exclusive to 2x2's Nathan!. God is VERY Exclusive, Jesus said "I am the WAY the TRUTH and NO man comes unto the Father but through me." God will divide the sheep and goats, He will separate the Wheat from the Tares one day, the 5 Wise virgins from the 5 foolish virgins. God cast out the man from the marriage feast because he didn't put on the wedding garment/righteousness of Christ, which was provided for him to wear.
God is NOT exclusive then why are you in a 2x2 workers and the friends exclusive fellowship?
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Post by chuck on Nov 30, 2019 1:08:45 GMT -5
The Grace of God is not exclusive to 2x2's Nathan!. God is VERY Exclusive, Jesus said "I am the WAY the TRUTH and NO man comes unto the Father but through me." God will divide the sheep and goats, He will separate the Wheat and the Tares one day, the 5 Wise virgins from the 5 foolish virgins. God cast out the man from the marriage feast because he didn't put on the wedding garment/righteousness of Christ, which was provided for him to wear.
God is NOT exclusive then why are you in a 2x2 workers and the friends exclusive fellowship?
Hmmmm no mention of a system, earth based chruch, religion, 2x2's, 2x2 ministers. Just like the thief on the cross. He only needed CHRIST!.
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Post by chuck on Nov 30, 2019 1:13:55 GMT -5
The Grace of God is not exclusive to 2x2's Nathan!. God is VERY Exclusive, Jesus said "I am the WAY the TRUTH and NO man comes unto the Father but through me." God will divide the sheep and goats, He will separate the Wheat and the Tares one day, the 5 Wise virgins from the 5 foolish virgins. God cast out the man from the marriage feast because he didn't put on the wedding garment/righteousness of Christ, which was provided for him to wear.
God is NOT exclusive then why are you in a 2x2 workers and the friends exclusive fellowship?
And the fact you still question why im still a 2x2 shows the depth of compassion & love bred and taught in 2x2 system!. Shallow and Hollow!. You should be ashamed!. Exactly like the Priest and the Levite!. Wake up to yourself!.
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Post by nathan on Nov 30, 2019 1:40:30 GMT -5
God is VERY Exclusive, Jesus said "I am the WAY the TRUTH and NO man comes unto the Father but through me." God will divide the sheep and goats, He will separate the Wheat and the Tares one day, the 5 Wise virgins from the 5 foolish virgins. God cast out the man from the marriage feast because he didn't put on the wedding garment/righteousness of Christ, which was provided for him to wear.
God is NOT exclusive then why are you in a 2x2 workers and the friends exclusive fellowship?
Hmmmm no mention of a system, earth based chruch, religion, 2x2's, 2x2 ministers. Just like the thief on the cross. He only needed CHRIST!. Wow... it seems you don't read your Bible very often, Chuckie... Jesus talked about ONE FOLD! the apostles wrote about the TRUTH fellowship, and DO NOT depart from it. I John 1:3-7 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
We read in Acts 3000 and 5000 converts in Acts had fellowship with the apostles and believers. Acts 2:41-42 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
John the apostle wrote II John 1:1-3 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth; For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever. Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
III John 1:1-4 The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth. Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth. I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
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Post by nathan on Nov 30, 2019 1:44:19 GMT -5
God is VERY Exclusive, Jesus said "I am the WAY the TRUTH and NO man comes unto the Father but through me." God will divide the sheep and goats, He will separate the Wheat and the Tares one day, the 5 Wise virgins from the 5 foolish virgins. God cast out the man from the marriage feast because he didn't put on the wedding garment/righteousness of Christ, which was provided for him to wear.
God is NOT exclusive then why are you in a 2x2 workers and the friends exclusive fellowship? And the fact you still question why im still a 2x2 shows the depth of compassion & love bred and taught in 2x2 system!. Shallow and Hollow!. You should be ashamed!. Exactly like the Priest and the Levite!. Wake up to yourself!. You are one strange and a mixed up 2x2 with all kinds of different churches doctrine mixed inside your head, chuckie.
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 30, 2019 1:59:35 GMT -5
And the fact you still question why im still a 2x2 shows the depth of compassion & love bred and taught in 2x2 system!. Shallow and Hollow!. You should be ashamed!. Exactly like the Priest and the Levite!. Wake up to yourself!. You are one strange and a mixed up 2x2 with all kinds of different churches doctrine mixed inside your head, chuckie.
OMG.... this coming from you nathan !!! We all can see who is "one strange and mixed up 2x2 " !!! Just wow !!! I don't think chuck believes JC lives in Venus....but I suppose not many people worship Stranges like you do !!!
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 30, 2019 2:04:22 GMT -5
hahaha... I started my own Jesus 2x2 church on TMB or similar boards to it, 20 yrs ago... I am the first internet worker, Wally and Jetmech are my companions, didn't you know that... You should KNOW that by now, RT. jesus christ, you have delusions of grandeur. How about you pop off to your local trick cyclist for some treatment. We all know you have started your own church nathan ....of course you have to be the "founder" !! Can't let Irvine get all the glory can you !!! But you may need to check with jetmech as he seems to be going against you views of the trinity !!
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 30, 2019 2:08:58 GMT -5
Hmmmm no mention of a system, earth based chruch, religion, 2x2's, 2x2 ministers. Just like the thief on the cross. He only needed CHRIST!. Wow... it seems you don't read your Bible very often, Chuckie... Jesus talked about ONE FOLD! the apostles wrote about the TRUTH fellowship, and DO NOT depart from it. I John 1:3-7 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
We read in Acts 3000 and 5000 converts in Acts had fellowship with the apostles and believers. Acts 2:41-42 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
John the apostle wrote II John 1:1-3 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth; For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever. Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
III John 1:1-4 The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth. Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth. I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
So why didn't Stranges belong to the 2x2s nathan ?
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 30, 2019 2:12:07 GMT -5
The Grace of God is not exclusive to 2x2's Nathan!. God is VERY Exclusive, Jesus said "I am the WAY the TRUTH and NO man comes unto the Father but through me." God will divide the sheep and goats, He will separate the Wheat from the Tares one day, the 5 Wise virgins from the 5 foolish virgins. God cast out the man from the marriage feast because he didn't put on the wedding garment/righteousness of Christ, which was provided for him to wear.
God is NOT exclusive then why are you in a 2x2 workers and the friends exclusive fellowship?
Maybe you should adk yourself the same question nathan !! Why are you in the 2x2 fellowship....because you sure don't believe what they do !
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 30, 2019 2:17:53 GMT -5
When wil you see that your reliance on the 2x2 system is works and goes against everything you just said above. The thief on the cross didn need the 2x2 system or and other religious system. Neither does anyone else!. Dung! You are one mixed up 2x2, non-exclusive, chuckie. You know your non-exclusive 2x2 type believer will NOT last long in our 2x2 exclusive fellowship, you will leave us/2x2 Cult as you call them. Eventually, you will show your true color and leave. You will NOT be the first non-exclusive 2x2 one on TMB, there were others like you who came on TMB and a few years later they became an ex-2x2s.
Oh how ironic !!! If you were honest with the F&Ws about what you believe you wouldn't be a part of the 2x2s nathan.
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Post by nathan on Nov 30, 2019 2:37:04 GMT -5
RT, you are the famous Queen of the broken record on TMB, keep on REPEAT the SAME thing/question OVER and OVER again to torture your opponent with water boarding by drowning them eventually. I had answered all of your questions and posts BEFORE MANY times. I died thousands times already, I don't have time to answer them AGAIN and AGAIN, OK.
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 30, 2019 2:45:14 GMT -5
RT, you are the famous Queen of the broken record on TMB, keep on REPEAT the SAME thing/question OVER and OVER again to torture your opponent with water boarding by drowning them eventually. I had answered all of your questions and posts BEFORE MANY times. I died thousands times already, I don't have time to answer them AGAIN and AGAIN, OK. Of course you won't answer nathan, because you can't !! You are so busy "pointing the finger" at chuck that you forget whats pointing back at you !!! Its not the 2x2s who are deluded !!!
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Post by chuck on Nov 30, 2019 8:01:00 GMT -5
Hmmmm no mention of a system, earth based chruch, religion, 2x2's, 2x2 ministers. Just like the thief on the cross. He only needed CHRIST!. Wow... it seems you don't read your Bible very often, Chuckie... Jesus talked about ONE FOLD! the apostles wrote about the TRUTH fellowship, and DO NOT depart from it. I John 1:3-7 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
We read in Acts 3000 and 5000 converts in Acts had fellowship with the apostles and believers. Acts 2:41-42 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
John the apostle wrote II John 1:1-3 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth; For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever. Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
III John 1:1-4 The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth. Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth. I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
Nothing here to say you have to be like a 2x2 and can only be saved through a 2x2 minister. The truth isn't your Church or the 2X2's Nathan. Every second week I hear someone turn the Truth into the Truth aka 2x2's. Jesus is the Truth!. Heaven forbid someone other than 2x2's have fellowship!
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Post by chuck on Nov 30, 2019 8:07:07 GMT -5
And the fact you still question why im still a 2x2 shows the depth of compassion & love bred and taught in 2x2 system!. Shallow and Hollow!. You should be ashamed!. Exactly like the Priest and the Levite!. Wake up to yourself!. You are one strange and a mixed up 2x2 with all kinds of different churches doctrine mixed inside your head, chuckie.
Maybe I just believe in Christ!. And dont rely on systems like yourself, your so worried about other's doctrines which just screams it's super duper important to you and that your doctrine is the only right one!. Dung! Jesus is the way!.
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Post by nathan on Nov 30, 2019 10:50:55 GMT -5
You are one strange and a mixed up 2x2 with all kinds of different churches doctrine mixed inside your head, chuckie.
Maybe I just believe in Christ!. And dont rely on systems like yourself, your so worried about other's doctrines which just screams it's super duper important to you and that your doctrine is the only right one!. Dung! Jesus is the way!. Yea, right. The RCC and 40,000 plus Protestant all believe Jesus is the WAY but they don't follow or believe what He teaches! This is what Jesus said about them in Matthew 7:21-27 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.This is what Jesus called them who read and hear His teachings but DO NOT follow or believe it apply for their generation are false prophets and believers in Matthew 7:13-20
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
~~ So, be VERY careful If I were you, Chuckie and take heed of Jesus teachings and warnings!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 30, 2019 11:14:25 GMT -5
The so called only true Ministry cannot even get this right!. "Matthew 28:16-20 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Yet somehow this confirms the 2x2 is the correct way. They sure have strayed from teaching Jesus is God!. Strayed from or never really actually acknowledge the Grace of God. All sorts of traditions continuously change, For the so called "TRUTH" it seems to to be ever changing, which is really weird because Jesus's is the same yesterday, today, forever!. How can the perfect way get it so wrong all of the time!. You are a 2x2 and don't KNOW the basic teachings of the workers/apostles or Jesus New Testament teachings.
Don't worry, the early workers had believed and taught the Trinity, Jesus is God and the Sunday Morning worship gathering is TRINITY/Triune God= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit Worship!... If many of the current workers and the friends understand this they will reconsider their stance on anti-Trinity, and Jesus is NOT God because they STILL keep the Sunday Worship/Trinity! .... While there is life there is hope for them. Once God has opened their eyes! Christ is God and man/Jesus. The glorious gospel will prosper again like in the Old days!
Don’t worry!!!! That’s what’s worrisome, Nathan, is the 2x2s go by rote and have no idea the why of what they’re doing. They’ve lost any connection with God the Son IF THEY EVER HAD IT. They have no avenue for salvation because they’re worshipping the 2x2 itinerant ministry and the meetings in the home. And disrespectfully speak of Jesus as an “elder brother”. He’s only an elder brother through mercy and adoption of ourselves. HE IS THE ONE WHO GIVES US THE POWER TO BE CALLED SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF GOD. John 1:12.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 30, 2019 11:19:28 GMT -5
You are a 2x2 and don't KNOW the basic teachings of the workers/apostles or Jesus New Testament teachings.
Don't worry, the early workers had believed and taught the Trinity, Jesus is God and the Sunday Morning worship gathering is TRINITY/Triune God= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit Worship!... If many of the current workers and the friends understand this they will reconsider their stance on anti-Trinity, and Jesus is NOT God because they STILL keep the Sunday Worship/Trinity! .... While there is life there is hope for them. Once God has opened their eyes! Christ is God and man/Jesus. The glorious gospel will prosper again like in the Old days!
Nathan the Gospel always prospers. Again tying it to the 2x2's is false. Dung!. The Gospel is good news when we acknowledge we cannot and do not earn and our salvation. The work is complete, Christ has sat down! You do not need 2x2 tradition or ministry to know this!. Reminded me Amir said that the reason in the first centuries why preaching was so necessary and stressed because no one owned a bible. The scrolls were properties of the synagogues and temple. No one but the priests and the scribes had access to those scrolls. That’s why when the synagogue leader gave the scrolls to Jesus, it was a major thing. It caused the people to pay more heed because they were used to the scribes reading the scrolls to them.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 30, 2019 11:22:40 GMT -5
Maybe I just believe in Christ!. And dont rely on systems like yourself, your so worried about other's doctrines which just screams it's super duper important to you and that your doctrine is the only right one!. Dung! Jesus is the way!. Yea, right. The RCC and 40,000 plus Protestant all believe Jesus is the WAY but they don't follow or believe what He teaches! This is what Jesus said about them in Matthew 7:21-27 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.This is what Jesus called them who read and hear His teachings but DO NOT follow or believe it apply for their generation are false prophets and believers in Matthew 7:13-20
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
~~ So, be VERY careful If I were you, Chuckie and take heed of Jesus teachings and warnings!
That strait gate and narrow way is Jesus and only Jesus. Not the 2x2 religion that has little knowledge or care about Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God.
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2019 14:47:20 GMT -5
You don't KNOW what you are talking about because you are a non-exclusive 2x2 believer. Irvine didn't made it up anything, he copied it from the scriptures and the Faith Mission that he came out of, you don't even understand that part.
TELL me two things that you think MOST of the 2x2 workers rituals/tradition are NOT biblical base, and let us see if you are correct in your thinking?
You have to hear the gospel through a 2x2 minister to be saved. You have to endure for your salvation. You have to proffess to be saved. You have to go to meetings to be saved You have to agree with "US" to be saved You have to dress like us to be saved need I go on. Tell me where the thief on the cross fits into these traditions to be saved!. Oh thats right he just believed in Christ!. Oh and I believe Irvine might have dropped the word EXPERIMENT!. He made it up, just like he made up his prophecy. Well as much as I love that you don't buy into the exclusivity like many 2x2's, you have to admit that they have a valid reason for being exclusive. The Christian God is also exclusive. If someone believes in another God, because that's the culture they grew up in, then the Christian God sends them to hell for eternity. That's a good example of being exclusive, so I can see how the 2x2's might just think they are doing what their God does and see it as the right thing to do. It's just the way some religions are set up. Muslims believe Christians are going to hell and Christians think Muslims are going to hell, and everyone that believes in Gods think that non believers are going to all the respective 'hells' out there. Religion is exclusive by it's very nature.
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