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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 15:37:17 GMT -5
that could easily be satan messing with Gods creation to create hermaphrodites.... Oh, of course! OMG, -now why didn't I think of that!
So SATAN is a co-creator with GOD? WOW! Think of that?
New revelations are coming fast & furious! Thank you! Thank you so much Wally.didn't say he was a co-creator hes more like a corruptor...
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 1, 2019 15:59:26 GMT -5
Oh, of course! OMG, -now why didn't I think of that!
So SATAN is a co-creator with GOD? WOW! Think of that?
New revelations are coming fast & furious! Thank you! Thank you so much Wally.didn't say he was a co-creator hes more like a corruptor... Oh, how I do envy you, wally! You have both a "savior" and a "scape goat"
That way you don't need to hold yourself responsible for anything! It must be wonderful !
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 1, 2019 16:01:37 GMT -5
Then are you (and Paul) saying that sex is only about "lust?"
The definition for LUST is a "to have an intense desire or need (for or for)" something, -not necessarily "sex." It can be a Lust for money, power.
What would have happened to the human race if there were no sex? After all, wasn't that supposed to have been a "commandment" from god in Genesis
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Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
in the case of homosexuality yes its about lust.... And what was it with you?
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Post by Annan on Dec 1, 2019 16:04:47 GMT -5
~~ 200 fallen angels had SEX with women of this earth creating the Nephilim= The Giants race to Rule the world So angels have DNA? Interesting!
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Post by snow on Dec 1, 2019 18:21:43 GMT -5
Don't watch it then. NO one is forcing you to watch anything that bothers you. Why do you want to control what everyone does? It doesn't bother a majority of the people so why should everything be just the way you want it? Look away if it's in front of you physically and turn the TV to another station if it's on and you don't want it to be. Quit trying to control everyone else based on what bothers you. The world does not revolve around you or Christians and they don't need to change what they believe just to make you comfortable. You're right … and I don't watch TV; but, they are " … in your face with this BS …" whether you like it or not, parading around in public, exposing themselves, and you can't get away from it in the schools, both high school campuses and colleges campuses, and even in elementary schools the topic is often discussed among kids, where it was NEVER heard of the entire time I was in elementary school through high school. The first time I heard of this was in the army and even then it was barely mentioned.
There used to be " … public indecency laws …" on the books that would get a person ARRESTED for exposing their "behind" in public!
Permissiveness has become so large scale, not just in the USA, but in many countries the world over, and we've become a society living like swine! They defecate in public in San Fran "sicko", Calif … there are human feces in parks, and some public places … it's FILTHY!
You can see the messes these type of people leave on toilet seats as well … just to press their point! SWINE I tell you … SWINE!!!
It also "GRIPES MY NORTH END" that the "nonheterosexuals" imply that we HAVE to acceptt them and their lifestyle!!! That is BS … I do NOT have to accept them any more than they have to accept normal heterosexuality!!!!!! They say people like me are "homophobic" … bologna!!! They are HETEROPHOBIC!
Who is this 'they' that you are ranting about? Do you actually blame homosexuals for all the things just listed above? Do you actually think that it's all homosexuals and no heterosexual that might be doing some of these things? No one is telling you to accept homosexuality. They are telling you to ignore them and don't be one if it bothers you so much. This is not just about you.
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Post by snow on Dec 1, 2019 18:24:02 GMT -5
Hate isn't good for anyone though. Those that are hated and the ones doing the hating. That's why I feel so sad that the bible justifies and sometimes makes it mandatory that people divide themselves from those the bible doesn't approve of. I know my life would be less if I believed that certain people were to be avoided just because they had a different belief from me or because a book told me to. It takes away from those who hate just as surely as it hurts those that are hated. We even know that physiologically speaking that hate is hard on the immune system. So it's not even good for our health to hate. I actually feel sorry for those that are so intolerant because it's really not good for them. What does the word "abomination" imply? It sure isn't love … I believe it's closer to HATE, and it say in the Bible that homosexuality is an abomination to GOD, and I don't think GOD is going to kill a heterosexual because they loath homosexuality … especially since homosexuality is an abomination to GOD.
The Christmas season "guilt trip" won't work on me neither, because Christmas has nothing to do with GOD nor the Bible. It's a man-created merchandising tool! I don't care one wit about Christmas and I'm not sure why you would even mention it. It has no meaning for me. It's just another holiday. So no guilt trip from me in that regard. So you admit that the bible advocates hate? Is that a good thing? Should anyone hate? Does it do anyone any good? Should Christians hate people?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 18:30:19 GMT -5
What does the word "abomination" imply? It sure isn't love … I believe it's closer to HATE, and it say in the Bible that homosexuality is an abomination to GOD, and I don't think GOD is going to kill a heterosexual because they loath homosexuality … especially since homosexuality is an abomination to GOD.
The Christmas season "guilt trip" won't work on me neither, because Christmas has nothing to do with GOD nor the Bible. It's a man-created merchandising tool! I don't care one wit about Christmas and I'm not sure why you would even mention it. It has no meaning for me. It's just another holiday. So no guilt trip from me in that regard. So you admit that the bible advocates hate? Is that a good thing? Should anyone hate? Does it do anyone any good? Should Christians hate people? christians hate the sin not the sinner, although that may be a fine line...
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Post by reborn on Dec 1, 2019 18:31:38 GMT -5
The only way to truly help anybody- is to love them.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 1, 2019 18:34:33 GMT -5
I don't care one wit about Christmas and I'm not sure why you would even mention it. It has no meaning for me. It's just another holiday. So no guilt trip from me in that regard. So you admit that the bible advocates hate? Is that a good thing? Should anyone hate? Does it do anyone any good? Should Christians hate people? christians hate the sin not the sinner, although that may be a fine line... When Christians talk about killing for the "sin" -- can they do it without killing the sinner?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 18:38:10 GMT -5
christians hate the sin not the sinner, although that may be a fine line... When Christians talk about killing for the "sin" -- can they do it without killing the sinner? we not suppose to kill for the sin except for murderers....and i have never heard the term killing the sin used before you said it....
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 1, 2019 18:42:48 GMT -5
When Christians talk about killing for the "sin" -- can they do it without killing the sinner? we not suppose to kill for the sin except for murderers....and i have never heard the term killing the sin used before you said it.... You mentioned that they believe in killing for things the Bible determines to be sinful. I was wanting to know how they can kill for the sins, as they talk about, if they don't really mean killing the sinner. Can they do that and still love the sinner?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 18:49:28 GMT -5
we not suppose to kill for the sin except for murderers....and i have never heard the term killing the sin used before you said it.... You mentioned that they believe in killing for things the Bible determines to be sinful. I was wanting to know how they can kill for the sins, as they talk about, if they don't really mean killing the sinner. Can they do that and still love the sinner? that would be those that want the OT to come back not those that believe in the NT covenant... i don't think they loved the sinner in the OT.... i don't know if that answers your question or not...
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 1, 2019 18:52:36 GMT -5
You mentioned that they believe in killing for things the Bible determines to be sinful. I was wanting to know how they can kill for the sins, as they talk about, if they don't really mean killing the sinner. Can they do that and still love the sinner? that would be those that want the OT to come back not those that believe in the NT covenant... i don't think they loved the sinner in the OT.... i don't know if that answers your question or not... It does, pretty much. It seems illogical to me.
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Post by snow on Dec 1, 2019 18:58:49 GMT -5
I don't care one wit about Christmas and I'm not sure why you would even mention it. It has no meaning for me. It's just another holiday. So no guilt trip from me in that regard. So you admit that the bible advocates hate? Is that a good thing? Should anyone hate? Does it do anyone any good? Should Christians hate people? christians hate the sin not the sinner, although that may be a fine line... It's too bad that more don't have a very firm line drawn between hating the 'sin/behavior' and hating the person doing it. When I hear Christians talking about executing gays I sure don't see a line between hating the 'sin' and hating the 'person'. And, it seems to be getting more and more common.
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Post by snow on Dec 1, 2019 19:01:49 GMT -5
that would be those that want the OT to come back not those that believe in the NT covenant... i don't think they loved the sinner in the OT.... i don't know if that answers your question or not... It does, pretty much. It seems illogical to me. Again it is determined by what they take from the Bible. Is seems more and more are going by OT law like it was in the days when Christians killed anyone that was a witch. To save their souls of course. That was the justification. Burn them at the stake so that they can't do the sin anymore and save their souls. Twisted thinking for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 19:03:07 GMT -5
christians hate the sin not the sinner, although that may be a fine line... It's too bad that more don't have a very firm line drawn between hating the 'sin/behavior' and hating the person doing it. When I hear Christians talking about executing gays I sure don't see a line between hating the 'sin' and hating the 'person'. And, it seems to be getting more and more common. well from recent videos i've seen the baptists seem to be leading the charge on that issue....
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Post by snow on Dec 1, 2019 19:06:10 GMT -5
It's too bad that more don't have a very firm line drawn between hating the 'sin/behavior' and hating the person doing it. When I hear Christians talking about executing gays I sure don't see a line between hating the 'sin' and hating the 'person'. And, it seems to be getting more and more common. well from recent videos i've seen the baptists seem to be leading the charge on that issue.... I don't know, but I do know that some branches of Baptists are very much that way. Look at the Westboro branch of Baptists and how hateful they are. I think the more fundamental the branch, the more they lean towards the OT law it seems. It's sad and it's scary because it seems to be getting more common.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 1, 2019 19:15:15 GMT -5
well from recent videos i've seen the baptists seem to be leading the charge on that issue.... I don't know, but I do know that some branches of Baptists are very much that way. Look at the Westboro branch of Baptists and how hateful they are. I think the more fundamental the branch, the more they lean towards the OT law it seems. It's sad and it's scary because it seems to be getting more common. It seems this trend applies to almost any congregation that calls itself "Christian", without claiming any denominational affiliation. The Reconstructionists insist on being non-denominational.
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Post by nathan on Dec 1, 2019 19:26:55 GMT -5
~~ 200 fallen angels had SEX with women of this earth creating the Nephilim= The Giants race to Rule the world So angels have DNA? Interesting! *** From what I have read about the angels, there are 7 or more species or classifications of angels. It seems the humans looking guardian angels= the Venusians can have sex and having children of their own race. These Venusians human looking guardian angels are mentioned in the Old and New Test. God/Christ created them so they can interact with sinful mankind on earth face to face. They first mention in Genesis chapters 17-19 Christ/God Creator came down from heaven/Venus in human form with TWO of the Venusians human looking angel. Christ stayed and talked with Abraham and Sarah about the birth of their son Isaac. He sent the TWO Venusians angels to rescue Lot and his family from Sodom/ Gomorrah wicked cities. Satan came from the second order of angel and it seems he can mate with earthly woman/Eve= Cain and his illuminati children to RULE over the humans/sinners on earth. Theirs IQ are much higher and more intelligent than us fallen humans. We read 200 fallen angels had sexual intercourse with women to create the Nephilim/Giants that populate the whole earth. They had sex with animals, birds, fish, reptiles and so on. Other angels orders do not engaging in having sex like the ones Jesus mentioned in the gospel.
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 1, 2019 19:29:22 GMT -5
So angels have DNA? Interesting! *** From what I have read about the angels, there 7 or more species or classifications of angels. It seems the humans looking guardian angels= the Venusians can have sex and having children of their own race. Satan came from the second order of angel and it seems he can mate with earthly woman/Eve. We read 200 fallen angels had sexual intercourse with women to create the Nephilim/Giants that populate the whole earth. They had sex with animals, birds, fish, reptiles and so on. Other angels orders do not engaging in having sex like the ones Jesus mentioned in the gospel.
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Post by snow on Dec 1, 2019 19:43:04 GMT -5
So angels have DNA? Interesting! *** From what I have read about the angels, there are 7 or more species or classifications of angels. It seems the humans looking guardian angels= the Venusians can have sex and having children of their own race. These Venusians human looking guardian angels are mentioned in the Old and New Test. God/Christ created them so they can interact with sinful mankind on earth face to face. They first mention in Genesis chapters 17-19 Christ/God Creator came down from heaven/Venus in human form with TWO of the Venusians human looking angel. Christ stayed and talked with Abraham and Sarah about the birth of their son Isaac. He sent the TWO Venusians angels to rescue Lot and his family from Sodom/ Gomorrah wicked cities. Satan came from the second order of angel and it seems he can mate with earthly woman/Eve. We read 200 fallen angels had sexual intercourse with women to create the Nephilim/Giants that populate the whole earth. They had sex with animals, birds, fish, reptiles and so on. Other angels orders do not engaging in having sex like the ones Jesus mentioned in the gospel. Sodom/Gomorrah angels were from Venus?? Where did you read that?
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Post by Annan on Dec 1, 2019 19:45:20 GMT -5
Sodom/Gomorrah angels were from Venus?? Where did you read that? Now you're going to get him started again. Here comes the dissertations. Thanks a lot, Snow!
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Post by nathan on Dec 1, 2019 19:49:46 GMT -5
*** From what I have read about the angels, there are 7 or more species or classifications of angels. It seems the humans looking guardian angels= the Venusians can have sex and having children of their own race. These Venusians human looking guardian angels are mentioned in the Old and New Test. God/Christ created them so they can interact with sinful mankind on earth face to face. They first mention in Genesis chapters 17-19 Christ/God Creator came down from heaven/Venus in human form with TWO of the Venusians human looking angel. Christ stayed and talked with Abraham and Sarah about the birth of their son Isaac. He sent the TWO Venusians angels to rescue Lot and his family from Sodom/ Gomorrah wicked cities. Satan came from the second order of angel and it seems he can mate with earthly woman/Eve. We read 200 fallen angels had sexual intercourse with women to create the Nephilim/Giants that populate the whole earth. They had sex with animals, birds, fish, reptiles and so on. Other angels orders do not engaging in having sex like the ones Jesus mentioned in the gospel. Sodom/Gomorrah angels were from Venus?? Where did you read that? ** Hehe.. Revelation from above. Read Genesis chapters 17-19 for a starter. Christ/God sent TWO of His human looking Venusians guardian angels from the interior planet Venus to Sodom/Gomorrah cities to rescue Abraham's Nephew Lot and his family.
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Post by snow on Dec 1, 2019 19:54:06 GMT -5
Sodom/Gomorrah angels were from Venus?? Where did you read that? Now you're going to get him started again. Here comes the dissertations. Thanks a lot, Snow! LOL sorry....
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Post by snow on Dec 1, 2019 20:10:32 GMT -5
Sodom/Gomorrah angels were from Venus?? Where did you read that? ** Hehe.. Revelation from above. Read Genesis chapters 17-19 for a starter. Christ/God sent TWO of His human looking Venusians guardian angels from the interior planet Venus to Sodom/Gomorrah cities to rescue Abraham's Nephew Lot and his family. Ok, Chapter 17 is about God making Abraham and all his male household get circumcised. Not one word about angels even let alone the word Venusian angel. Chapter 18 is Abraham talking to 'The Lord' and arguing with him about how many people have to be righteous before the Lord will destroy the cities. Again, no mention of Venusian angels. There were three men though. Chapter 19 These three men from Chapter 18 turn into 2 angels and they go down to the cities and talk to Lot. Again, while we have angels, it doesn't say they come from another planet. And, interestingly enough, Lot addresses them as 'my Lords'. So it appears that Jesus can be addressed as my Lord and not be a God after all, if angels can be called 'my Lords'. Then it talks about God destroying the cities and Lots daughters seducing him and having 2 sons that became the fathers of the Moabites and the Ammonites. Again no mention of any off planet interference. I think you add far too much to the bible and I think I read somewhere that adding to the bible is a sin. I know that you think that's ridiculous and that the RCC should have included more books, but that's not what the bible says, so....
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Post by nathan on Dec 1, 2019 20:41:54 GMT -5
** Hehe.. Revelation from above. Read Genesis chapters 17-19 for a starter. Christ/God sent TWO of His human looking Venusians guardian angels from the interior planet Venus to Sodom/Gomorrah cities to rescue Abraham's Nephew Lot and his family. Ok, Chapter 17 is about God making Abraham and all his male household get circumcised. Not one word about angels even let alone the word Venusian angel. Chapter 18 is Abraham talking to 'The Lord' and arguing with him about how many people have to be righteous before the Lord will destroy the cities. Again, no mention of Venusian angels. There were three men though. Chapter 19 These three men from Chapter 18 turn into 2 angels and they go down to the cities and talk to Lot. Again, while we have angels, it doesn't say they come from another planet. And, interestingly enough, Lot addresses them as 'my Lords'. So it appears that Jesus can be addressed as my Lord and not be a God after all, if angels can be called 'my Lords'. Then it talks about God destroying the cities and Lots daughters seducing him and having 2 sons that became the fathers of the Moabites and the Ammonites. Again no mention of any off planet interference. I think you add far too much to the bible and I think I read somewhere that adding to the bible is a sin. I know that you think that's ridiculous and that the RCC should have included more books, but that's not what the bible says, so.... Like I said before the Bible that we have it has ONLY 66 books the RCC LEFT out many books, which they did NOT include. So, many information we can gather from other books to help us to see a better picture of thing/events. The Bible has ONLY 4000 yrs history! From Adam to the book of Revelation. The Bible do NOT have any more records to be recorded there and if you put ALL of your eggs in that basket then you are like a cave woman with that period mentality in the 21st century. You MUST THINK outside of the BOX to see a complete picture of thing.
66 books/the Bible have enough information about the Messiah/the Redeemer plans of Salvation to SAVE mankind. The rest of the addition information are available to us, just like putting icing and sprinkles on the cake!
Where do you do READ in the Bible it says that adding to the Bible is a sin? How can it be a sin where there are 100s more books did not made it into the Bible because the RCC decided ONLY 66 made the cut or selected by men in the 4th century.
The information I got about the TWO angels came down with Christ/God to earth in Genesis chapters 18-19 came from the TWO humans looking angels from Interior planet Venus themselves. They were sent to help Christ because of Abraham's prayers to God the Father and Christ to spare his nephew Lot from that wicked cities Sodom and Gomorrah. THREE men! one is the LORD God himself/Christ and the other TWO men with him were human looking angels.
Cave #1 From the Dead Sea Scrolls: UFO/The wheel within the Wheel/Chariot of fire and heavenly Created Beings/Angels from the planet Venus Morning and Evening Star
www.rense.com/general66/cave.htm
From the Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 Valiant Thor Guardian angels human looking people are Venusians, they have been mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls and the in Old Testament.
The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star/Venus Planet, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Genesis chapters 17,18,19.
The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. "The smoke rose into the heaven and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth." "She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning." Jesus is speaking: "I have already made provisions so do not allow your pure mind, your pure heart or your spirit to become disturbed. I am well aware that the evil one and his followers have already tried and tempted you and attempted to try your faith. He is very busy and his evil activities shall increase as the time of the end shall appear." "His own angels whom I have cast out of the Heavenlies, down to Earth, are busy attempting to, in every way, to destroy your faith. But you my children shall be assisted by My Angels and other Heavenly Messengers, who will reveal themselves in chariots of fire. They will bring you a message that will cause you to be encircled with My Holy Flame of Fire that will cause much discomfort to the enemy. They shall also minister to you and protect you because I have assigned them to do so with the word of my mouth. I have spoken thus."
"Now I shall leave you for but a brief season. Meanwhile, My Spirit shall accompany you always. You will never be comfortless. Even so I am with you always even unto the time of the end. My love shall embrace you as never before. For I am the Lord that changes not and I shall keep My word." ~~ NathanB: The TWO humans looking guardian angels came to earth in 1942-2000s said Christ is their creator from the Interior planet Venus. We call them Venusians beings from the Interior planet of Venus. Satan is also a Venusian, he also was created by Christ and originated from there. So, I put two and two together with the help from people who had seen with their own eyes and other people who had known about it.
I posted these information for 10 yrs on TMB. I don't think people want to read it again.
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Post by jetmech on Dec 1, 2019 23:09:17 GMT -5
What does the word "abomination" imply? It sure isn't love … I believe it's closer to HATE, and it say in the Bible that homosexuality is an abomination to GOD, and I don't think GOD is going to kill a heterosexual because they loath homosexuality … especially since homosexuality is an abomination to GOD.
The Christmas season "guilt trip" won't work on me neither, because Christmas has nothing to do with GOD nor the Bible. It's a man-created merchandising tool! I don't care one wit about Christmas and I'm not sure why you would even mention it. It has no meaning for me. It's just another holiday. So no guilt trip from me in that regard. So you admit that the bible advocates hate? Is that a good thing? Should anyone hate? Does it do anyone any good? Should Christians hate people? Well Snow I don't think GOD loved Sodom and Gamorrah!
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Post by jetmech on Dec 1, 2019 23:12:07 GMT -5
christians hate the sin not the sinner, although that may be a fine line... When Christians talk about killing for the "sin" -- can they do it without killing the sinner? e Ask GOD that question in regards to the flood,and Sodom and Gamorrah.
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