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Post by Annan on Nov 29, 2019 15:22:06 GMT -5
To those who think homosexuality is a choice...
When did you chose to be straight?
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 29, 2019 15:32:29 GMT -5
They have confused many children about something they are not old enough to contemplate very deeply. Most children don't even think about sex. You obviously have not had, at the same time, a pregnant wife and a 6-year old child. Do you lie to the child and let the kids at school explain to him what really happened, or do you take the opportunity to explain to him that it is a perfectly normal and natural event and nothing to be ashamed of. In that case, after the kids at school get to him, he will understand that there is SOMETHING his parents were ashamed of concerning the matter. That's what REALLY will confuse a kid.
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Post by mountain on Nov 29, 2019 15:35:17 GMT -5
You miss the point entirely. Do gay people possess the natural ability to reproduce as gays? Transgender people? The point I was making was about reproduction, nothing else. Oh..and a little tongue in cheek. Do you believe that sex education will actually make more gays, to the point where everyone will be gay and our species will not be around anymore? Or are you just being you and stirring the pot. Both! If you stir the pot you mix the ingredients. Promotion usually advances that which is promoted.
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Post by mountain on Nov 29, 2019 15:38:32 GMT -5
To those who think homosexuality is a choice...
When did you chose to be straight? Many heterosexual people choose to be aheterosexual by remaining single and having no partners. It's either a life choice or a result of an inability to find a suitable partner. Most people in the Western World do choose to follow a heterosexual lifestyle by getting married to a person of the opposite sex. That is a life choice. Of course there are those who choose to cut corners because they are naughty.
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Post by mountain on Nov 29, 2019 15:41:18 GMT -5
Modern sex education will indeed reduce the number of pregnancies. How can it be otherwise. The way they are now promoting the ideas of gay relationships and gender bending in schools, etc., we will be heading for extinction before long. That's absolutely ridiculous. Homosexuality isn't contagious or a chosen lifestyle. It can be something they might experiment with but if you are heterosexual that will be all it is and they will definitely be attracted to the opposite gender because that's how their brain chemistry is wired. To say that information about homosexuality or transgender creates it is so misguided. For those that are homosexual or transgender, they should be able to have a source where they can go and feel safe to understand why they are feeling things that the majority of the population don't. No one just chooses to be either of these. Why would they when the majority of the world are so against them? That makes no sense, but those who feel it's a choice march this inaccurate belief out all the time. You can't cure whatever you are. Do you feel that knowing about homosexuality makes you want to be less heterosexual? No? Well then why do you believe it's that way for anyone else? It's certainly a chosen lifestyle. Homosexual feelings may be innate, but the expression of them is certainly by choice. The same with every other sexual act, whether straight, gay, naughty or whatever. Even the thoughts in our minds are by choice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 15:47:47 GMT -5
To those who think homosexuality is a choice...
When did you chose to be straight? probably early on. when i couldn't find a girl friend at 15 i though i might be gay for a couple months i then found a girl friend and never looked back.... tell that to men and women in prison who end up having a gay lifestyle in prison but as soon as they get out go back to a straight lifestyle...
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Post by snow on Nov 29, 2019 16:51:58 GMT -5
That's absolutely ridiculous. Homosexuality isn't contagious or a chosen lifestyle. It can be something they might experiment with but if you are heterosexual that will be all it is and they will definitely be attracted to the opposite gender because that's how their brain chemistry is wired. To say that information about homosexuality or transgender creates it is so misguided. For those that are homosexual or transgender, they should be able to have a source where they can go and feel safe to understand why they are feeling things that the majority of the population don't. No one just chooses to be either of these. Why would they when the majority of the world are so against them? That makes no sense, but those who feel it's a choice march this inaccurate belief out all the time. You can't cure whatever you are. Do you feel that knowing about homosexuality makes you want to be less heterosexual? No? Well then why do you believe it's that way for anyone else? It's certainly a chosen lifestyle. Homosexual feelings may be innate, but the expression of them is certainly by choice. The same with every other sexual act, whether straight, gay, naughty or whatever. Even the thoughts in our minds are by choice. Okay, I agree with you that they choose to act on their innate gender. But what I should have asked is 'do you think that the gender they are attracted to is chosen'? And, why if you are heterosexual it's okay to act on that attraction, but if you're homosexual it's not okay to act on that attraction? Isn't that rather a selfish outlook? Why should you be able to choose to act on your attraction to the opposite gender and then turn around and say it's wrong for them to act on their attraction to the same gender?
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Post by snow on Nov 29, 2019 16:55:46 GMT -5
To those who think homosexuality is a choice...
When did you chose to be straight? probably early on. when i couldn't find a girl friend at 15 i though i might be gay for a couple months i then found a girl friend and never looked back.... tell that to men and women in prison who end up having a gay lifestyle in prison but as soon as they get out go back to a straight lifestyle... Which just proves the point I have been making. If you are heterosexual, no one make you a homosexual. When the opportunity changes and they have access to those they are attracted to they choose the gender of their sexual orientation. So why are people afraid that kids learning about it in school will make them homosexual? People may experiment, I acknowledge that, but if given the choice and it is available to them, they will choose that which they are attracted to.
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Post by mountain on Nov 29, 2019 17:31:12 GMT -5
It's certainly a chosen lifestyle. Homosexual feelings may be innate, but the expression of them is certainly by choice. The same with every other sexual act, whether straight, gay, naughty or whatever. Even the thoughts in our minds are by choice. Okay, I agree with you that they choose to act on their innate gender. But what I should have asked is 'do you think that the gender they are attracted to is chosen'? And, why if you are heterosexual it's okay to act on that attraction, but if you're homosexual it's not okay to act on that attraction? Isn't that rather a selfish outlook? Why should you be able to choose to act on your attraction to the opposite gender and then turn around and say it's wrong for them to act on their attraction to the same gender? I'm sure you will agree that only heterosexual activity is authorised in the Bible and only in marriage. All other sexual activity is naughty. I didn't make up the rules.
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Post by snow on Nov 29, 2019 17:34:41 GMT -5
Okay, I agree with you that they choose to act on their innate gender. But what I should have asked is 'do you think that the gender they are attracted to is chosen'? And, why if you are heterosexual it's okay to act on that attraction, but if you're homosexual it's not okay to act on that attraction? Isn't that rather a selfish outlook? Why should you be able to choose to act on your attraction to the opposite gender and then turn around and say it's wrong for them to act on their attraction to the same gender? I'm sure you will agree that only heterosexual activity is authorised in the Bible and only in marriage. All other sexual activity is naughty. I didn't make up the rules. And of course the bible is right in your eyes. No matter how much it brings needless pain and suffering for those the bible condemns. That is reason in itself to not think of the bible as a 'good book'.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 29, 2019 19:00:39 GMT -5
To those who think homosexuality is a choice...
When did you chose to be straight? Many heterosexual people choose to be aheterosexual by remaining single and having no partners. It's either a life choice or a result of an inability to find a suitable partner. Most people in the Western World do choose to follow a heterosexual lifestyle by getting married to a person of the opposite sex. That is a life choice. Of course there are those who choose to cut corners because they are naughty. You are exemplary in your goofiness.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 29, 2019 19:05:25 GMT -5
To those who think homosexuality is a choice...
When did you chose to be straight? probably early on. when i couldn't find a girl friend at 15 i though i might be gay for a couple months i then found a girl friend and never looked back.... tell that to men and women in prison who end up having a gay lifestyle in prison but as soon as they get out go back to a straight lifestyle... Finding a girlfriend isn't a smell test, Wally. It's more of a personality test.
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Post by jetmech on Nov 29, 2019 23:00:45 GMT -5
It's certainly a chosen lifestyle. Homosexual feelings may be innate, but the expression of them is certainly by choice. The same with every other sexual act, whether straight, gay, naughty or whatever. Even the thoughts in our minds are by choice. Okay, I agree with you that they choose to act on their innate gender. But what I should have asked is 'do you think that the gender they are attracted to is chosen'? And, why if you are heterosexual it's okay to act on that attraction, but if you're homosexual it's not okay to act on that attraction? Isn't that rather a selfish outlook? Why should you be able to choose to act on your attraction to the opposite gender and then turn around and say it's wrong for them to act on their attraction to the same gender? " ... why should you be able to choose to act on your attraction to the opposite gender and then turn around and say it's wrong for them [homos] to act on their attraction ...?" If you asked ME this question I'd tell you ... First of all, because GOD designed us to be attracted to the opposite sex and he made a woman for a man and intended us to be attracted to the opposite gender. Secondly, because GOD HATES homoxuality and he finds homosexuality an abomination, and I follow God on this.
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Post by slowtosee on Nov 30, 2019 1:15:24 GMT -5
m.youtube.com/watch?v=OQIcScGh-LU I appreciate this choir and can only imagine some of the persecution and struggles they have faced in life , simply because they are gay. ( some suicide ) Read some of their faces and try to understand , life is not simple black and white, not easy Sunday school answers and one thing for sure , it is always in order to follow the teachings of Jesus to LOVE one another - period . Alvin m.youtube.com/watch?v=JLzXIIyqtB0
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Post by mountain on Nov 30, 2019 3:06:20 GMT -5
Let's face it, every one of us faces something in our lives that is wrong, be it being gay, promiscuous, prone to anger, deceit, jealousy, spite, cheating others, stealing, reading newspapers, etc. The list goes on. Every one of us has something or other in our character make up that is naughty, even very naughty. This list is sort of the opposite of the fruit of the spirit, and is the fruit of human nature. We can excuse all of our faults away by saying we were born like that, because the weakness is usually there in our human nature.
These things are only naughty if we give in to them and allow them to be an expression of our character. Jars, tins and bottles all have lids. They are to keep the contents in and do not allow them to spill over.
So for those who are afflicted with the weaknesses of human nature...........just try and keep a lid on it! Problem solved.
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2019 15:07:54 GMT -5
Okay, I agree with you that they choose to act on their innate gender. But what I should have asked is 'do you think that the gender they are attracted to is chosen'? And, why if you are heterosexual it's okay to act on that attraction, but if you're homosexual it's not okay to act on that attraction? Isn't that rather a selfish outlook? Why should you be able to choose to act on your attraction to the opposite gender and then turn around and say it's wrong for them to act on their attraction to the same gender? " ... why should you be able to choose to act on your attraction to the opposite gender and then turn around and say it's wrong for them [homos] to act on their attraction ...?" If you asked ME this question I'd tell you ... First of all, because GOD designed us to be attracted to the opposite sex and he made a woman for a man and intended us to be attracted to the opposite gender. Secondly, because GOD HATES homoxuality and he finds homosexuality an abomination, and I follow God on this. That absolute BS. If that's the case God really messed up because there are many that are attracted to their gender. And, why do you take the word of a Hebrew tribe that were getting their butts kicked by all their neighbors because they were exclusive and hostile but too small to do anything much about it. Of course they advocated for all their sexual activity to be about reproduction. How many Christians just have sex to reproduce after they are married? They seem to ignore that but choose the hateful bashing of those who the Hebrews decided were an abomination. It's hateful and it's hurtful and I have no respect for people that advocate that people who love others of their own gender are an abomination. The OT bible advocates for so much division and hate. Maybe you should join the Westboro Baptist Church so you can carry pickets at gay funerals saying 'God hates Fags'. Religion of love and peace. Right. It's totally disgusting imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 15:15:42 GMT -5
" ... why should you be able to choose to act on your attraction to the opposite gender and then turn around and say it's wrong for them [homos] to act on their attraction ...?" If you asked ME this question I'd tell you ... First of all, because GOD designed us to be attracted to the opposite sex and he made a woman for a man and intended us to be attracted to the opposite gender. Secondly, because GOD HATES homoxuality and he finds homosexuality an abomination, and I follow God on this. That absolute BS. If that's the case God really messed up because there are many that are attracted to their gender. And, why do you take the word of a Hebrew tribe that were getting their butts kicked by all their neighbors because they were exclusive and hostile but too small to do anything much about it. Of course they advocated for all their sexual activity to be about reproduction. How many Christians just have sex to reproduce after they are married? They seem to ignore that but choose the hateful bashing of those who the Hebrews decided were an abomination. It's hateful and it's hurtful and I have no respect for people that advocate that people who love others of their own gender are an abomination. The OT bible advocates for so much division and hate. Maybe you should join the Westboro Baptist Church so you can carry pickets at gay funerals saying 'God hates Fags'. Religion of love and peace. Right. It's totally disgusting imo. your forgetting satan has a hand in this too. hes right there whispering into someones ear to commit abominable acts...
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2019 15:45:47 GMT -5
That absolute BS. If that's the case God really messed up because there are many that are attracted to their gender. And, why do you take the word of a Hebrew tribe that were getting their butts kicked by all their neighbors because they were exclusive and hostile but too small to do anything much about it. Of course they advocated for all their sexual activity to be about reproduction. How many Christians just have sex to reproduce after they are married? They seem to ignore that but choose the hateful bashing of those who the Hebrews decided were an abomination. It's hateful and it's hurtful and I have no respect for people that advocate that people who love others of their own gender are an abomination. The OT bible advocates for so much division and hate. Maybe you should join the Westboro Baptist Church so you can carry pickets at gay funerals saying 'God hates Fags'. Religion of love and peace. Right. It's totally disgusting imo. your forgetting satan has a hand in this too. hes right there whispering into someones ear to commit abominable acts... That's just an excuse to justify the way people treat others saying it's satan that makes them do it and God hates it. I doubt very much there is any truth in either claim. And it certainly doesn't take into consideration that love should be love no matter what gender is the recipient of that love. Gay couples love each other just as much as heterosexual couples. To say love is an abomination is not right in my world. Sex is a very small part of a relationship and not necessarily part of all marriages. First and foremost it's about being with someone you love so much you want to spend the rest of your life with them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 18:19:10 GMT -5
your forgetting satan has a hand in this too. hes right there whispering into someones ear to commit abominable acts... That's just an excuse to justify the way people treat others saying it's satan that makes them do it and God hates it. I doubt very much there is any truth in either claim. And it certainly doesn't take into consideration that love should be love no matter what gender is the recipient of that love. Gay couples love each other just as much as heterosexual couples. To say love is an abomination is not right in my world. Sex is a very small part of a relationship and not necessarily part of all marriages. First and foremost it's about being with someone you love so much you want to spend the rest of your life with them. Paul calls it lust not love...
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2019 19:17:25 GMT -5
That's just an excuse to justify the way people treat others saying it's satan that makes them do it and God hates it. I doubt very much there is any truth in either claim. And it certainly doesn't take into consideration that love should be love no matter what gender is the recipient of that love. Gay couples love each other just as much as heterosexual couples. To say love is an abomination is not right in my world. Sex is a very small part of a relationship and not necessarily part of all marriages. First and foremost it's about being with someone you love so much you want to spend the rest of your life with them. Paul calls it lust not love... Paul would be wrong imo. He also didn't advocate for heterosexuals to get married either. He seemed to think all marriage was about was for having sex and satisfying lust. He didn't see it as a relationship for companionship and love.
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Post by Gene on Nov 30, 2019 20:59:17 GMT -5
That's just an excuse to justify the way people treat others saying it's satan that makes them do it and God hates it. I doubt very much there is any truth in either claim. And it certainly doesn't take into consideration that love should be love no matter what gender is the recipient of that love. Gay couples love each other just as much as heterosexual couples. To say love is an abomination is not right in my world. Sex is a very small part of a relationship and not necessarily part of all marriages. First and foremost it's about being with someone you love so much you want to spend the rest of your life with them. Paul calls it lust not love... Wally, are you saying that it's the sex act or the inclination toward it that makes a homosexual relationship or marriage sinful?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 21:03:35 GMT -5
Paul calls it lust not love... Wally, are you saying that it's the sex act or the inclination toward it that makes a homosexual relationship or marriage sinful? yes...ANYONE can love the same sex i love family and friends that are same sex as me but i don't have sex with them or anything of that nature...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 21:05:05 GMT -5
Paul calls it lust not love... He seemed to think all marriage was about was for having sex and satisfying lust. He didn't see it as a relationship for companionship and love. Paul never said that....hes the one that said the marriage bed was undefiled...
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Post by Gene on Nov 30, 2019 21:08:28 GMT -5
Wally, are you saying that it's the sex act or the inclination toward it that makes a homosexual relationship or marriage sinful? yes...ANYONE can love the same sex i love family and friends that are same sex as me but i don't have sex with them or anything of that nature... Okay, so then if two men or two women get married, live as a couple, wear wedding rings, share a bed, but don’t copulate, that would be okay with you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 21:17:58 GMT -5
yes...ANYONE can love the same sex i love family and friends that are same sex as me but i don't have sex with them or anything of that nature... Okay, so then if two men or two women get married, live as a couple, wear wedding rings, share a bed, but don’t copulate, that would be okay with you? thats doesn't happen very often if at all your seeking a loop hole in my comment...your forgetting God set the terms of marriage in genesis...a man and a woman...you would be breaking that command...
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 30, 2019 22:36:24 GMT -5
Okay, so then if two men or two women get married, live as a couple, wear wedding rings, share a bed, but don’t copulate, that would be okay with you? thats doesn't happen very often if at all your seeking a loop hole in my comment...your forgetting God set the terms of marriage in genesis...a man and a woman...you would be breaking that command... How do you know what happens in a gay couples bed @wally ?
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Post by Gene on Nov 30, 2019 22:46:28 GMT -5
Okay, so then if two men or two women get married, live as a couple, wear wedding rings, share a bed, but don’t copulate, that would be okay with you? thats doesn't happen very often if at all your seeking a loop hole in my comment...your forgetting God set the terms of marriage in genesis...a man and a woman...you would be breaking that command... Oh... so it's not just the sex you're against. Thanks for the clarification.
And it's "you're" -- get it right.
"You're" is the contracted form of "you are." "Your" is a possessive form of "you."
It's really not that difficult. With just a few minutes effort, you could learn to write in the English language. Your so close.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 30, 2019 22:56:02 GMT -5
That's just an excuse to justify the way people treat others saying it's satan that makes them do it and God hates it. I doubt very much there is any truth in either claim. And it certainly doesn't take into consideration that love should be love no matter what gender is the recipient of that love. Gay couples love each other just as much as heterosexual couples. To say love is an abomination is not right in my world. Sex is a very small part of a relationship and not necessarily part of all marriages. First and foremost it's about being with someone you love so much you want to spend the rest of your life with them. Paul calls it lust not love... Then are you (and Paul) saying that sex is only about "lust?"
The definition for LUST is a "to have an intense desire or need (for or for)" something, -not necessarily "sex." It can be a Lust for money, power.
What would have happened to the human race if there were no sex? After all, wasn't that supposed to have been a "commandment" from god in Genesis
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Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
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