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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 16:49:44 GMT -5
**** The book of Enoch he wrote about 200 fallen angels and he mention the main leaders names, who had Sex with the women of earth and with all kinds of animals. Satan is an Angel like them don't be surprised that Satan had SEX with Eve in the garden= Cain. The early church fathers teach about the faalen angels had Sex with women and produce the Nephilims/giants, which God destroyed many during the great flood. Except for the fact that the bible doesn't say that the serpent had sex with Eve or Adam and that Cain was born from the serpents seed. Adam said that he had received a man from the Lord when Cain was born. Is the serpent now entitle The Lord? It's right there in the bible Nathan. Genesis 4:1 *** all humans souls came from God. It was the RCC Bishops, cardinals that selected 66= the Bible. They left Many books out from the Bible and many pieces of the stories are missing. Whoever wrote the book of genesis 1-6 did not know the whole story, too many details were left out... There was no flow to it.
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 16:55:11 GMT -5
*** no peace during 1000 yrs reign and ruling with Christ and his chosen people on the earth. The parable of 10 talents God will give them rule over 10 cities, and the 5 talents rule over 5 cities but the 1 talent buried and he was cast out with unbelievers. Peace comes after the judgment day when we dwell in the New earth and heaven with God forever. The devil will be bound for the 1,000 years while Jesus reigns. After the 1,000 years he will let loose again. Jesus is coming to bring peace on the earth for those 1,000 years. Nothing about talents in this time or believers ruling over 10 or 5 cities. Again, name some of these hybrid humans and animals? **** I posted on here recently... The God/king of the egyptians Horus body of a man with the head of a hawk. Feline= cat people. Dog heads with humans bodies
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2018 17:47:59 GMT -5
I don't think thinking about this false doctrine is healthy. You've got so much crap mixed in with biblical data that I wonder if you'll ever know up from down again. BTW, the offspring of angels and human were only one generation, as nature proves hybrids don't usually have offspring. Except for the spawn of satan . Special rules apply otherwise it would spoil nathans story A valid point. However Satan doesn't have time to "spawn" infant Satan's, so he just drafts innocent living things to do his dirty work! ;-)
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2018 17:56:47 GMT -5
I thought there was going to be peace during the 1,000 year reign not war. Where are these hybrid humans and animals? Name a few. *** no peace during 10 up00 yrs reign and ruling with Christ and his chosen people on the earth. The parable of 10 talents God will give them rule over 10 cities, and the 5 talents rule over 5 cities but the 1 talent buried and he was cast out with unbelievers. Peace comes after the judgment day when we dwell in the New earth and heaven with God forever. Your sure are casting doubts about Jesus Christ ability as King of Kings, Lord of Lords. His millennial reign will be totally under his power. At the "end" of his reign when Satan is loosed for a "little" while to test the saints and build up the forces of Armageddon, to be totally defeated by God, burn their and their horses flesh off where they stand. Sounds like an atomic warfare, and why horses but that may mean "horsepower" in the machinery they use.
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 17:59:20 GMT -5
Except for the spawn of satan . Special rules apply otherwise it would spoil nathans story A valid point. However Satan doesn't have time to "spawn" infant Satan's, so he just drafts innocent living things to do his dirty work! ;-) Satan and 1/3 of fallen angels want their seed/children to RULE over the humans.... Their demigods DNA live longer and IQ are higher. Jesus said the tares are the children of the wicked ones... the Wheat are the children of God. Jesus said to the 12 apostles, "One of you is the devil= Judas Iscariot."
Satan's seed or children of demigods are RULING over the planet.... Jesus returns with His people to dethrone from their kingship and places on the earth. The 12 apostles shall sit on 12 thrones judging the children of Israel.
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Post by Grant on Jan 29, 2018 18:13:03 GMT -5
The devil will be bound for the 1,000 years while Jesus reigns. After the 1,000 years he will let loose again. Jesus is coming to bring peace on the earth for those 1,000 years. Nothing about talents in this time or believers ruling over 10 or 5 cities. Again, name some of these hybrid humans and animals? **** I posted on here recently... The God/king of the egyptians Horus body of a man with the head of a hawk. Feline= cat people. Dog heads with humans bodies Name and show me these people. Not myths and Legends created in the minds of men but of real people and animals.
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 19:01:02 GMT -5
**** I posted on here recently... The God/king of the egyptians Horus body of a man with the head of a hawk. Feline= cat people. Dog heads with humans bodies Name and show me these people. Not myths and Legends created in the minds of men but of real people and animals. The Book of Enoch
[Chapter 6] 1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaq1el, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens. [Chapter 7] 1-6 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
~~ Fallen angels result mingled their DNA with women= Nephilims. Sins with the animals= Hybrid races with birds/Ra, Osirus, Isis and Horus/hawk being... Reptiles/Reptilians, fish/mermaids, Cats/feline and so on... 1) Tens god and goddess of Egyptians.... Ra, Osirus, Isis, and their son Horus, the king of Egypt. www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2cMS2SuWm02) David Wilcock | Corey Goode saw Horus Egyptian god being/Hawk being in person 2014. listen the last half of the video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGcsfa-GyZk3) Here is Corey Goode interesting life history and backgrounds of the U.S. Secret Space program. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kk1J2XNoBU4) In 1989 the U.S. NSA/Military cataloged 57 E.T. species have visited earth. Only 3 min. Video www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jssSCIShA05) There are over 100,000 different ET races in our Milky Way galaxy alone. There are over 2 Trillions galaxies in the Universe and they are still counting the galaxies. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYQeYF3zfts6) These ETs have worked with Germans and the Americans during WW II worked with the Greys, the Reptilians, the Venusians from the planet Venus and others... Then they came over to U.S. after WW II and continue their works with CIA, NSA, Naval intelligence, the Air force, and the Army. The tall whites ET race has been working with the Air Force military for many years living in Nevada, Arizona USA secret bases. Here is a documentary on the Tall whites ET race in 2005. www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_hall08.htmmore information on the Tall Whites ET in 2011 www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_hall10.htm
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 29, 2018 20:13:54 GMT -5
Except for the fact that the bible doesn't say that the serpent had sex with Eve or Adam and that Cain was born from the serpents seed. Adam said that he had received a man from the Lord when Cain was born. Is the serpent now entitle The Lord? It's right there in the bible Nathan. Genesis 4:1 *** all humans souls came from God. It was the RCC Bishops, cardinals that selected 66= the Bible. They left Many books out from the Bible and many pieces of the stories are missing. Whoever wrote the book of genesis 1-6 did not know the whole story, too many details were left out... There was no flow to it. Okay so now "Whoever wrote the book of genesis 1-6 did not know the whole story, too many details were left out." But of course YOU know the whole story don't you nathan ! Did God tell you that Genesis 1-6 is not the whole story? Or did you come to that conclusion yourself !
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Post by rational on Jan 29, 2018 20:25:28 GMT -5
Except for the fact that the bible doesn't say that the serpent had sex with Eve or Adam and that Cain was born from the serpents seed. Adam said that he had received a man from the Lord when Cain was born. Is the serpent now entitle The Lord? It's right there in the bible Nathan. Genesis 4:1 *** all humans souls came from God. It was the RCC Bishops, cardinals that selected 66= the Bible. They left Many books out from the Bible and many pieces of the stories are missing. Whoever wrote the book of genesis 1-6 did not know the whole story, too many details were left out... There was no flow to it. Perhaps the writer had misplaced his/her copy of The Elements of Style.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 29, 2018 20:27:13 GMT -5
**** I posted on here recently... The God/king of the egyptians Horus body of a man with the head of a hawk. Feline= cat people. Dog heads with humans bodies Name and show me these people. Not myths and Legends created in the minds of men but of real people and animals. Just wait for all the youtube links Grant .
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 21:31:10 GMT -5
*** all humans souls came from God. It was the RCC Bishops, cardinals that selected 66= the Bible. They left Many books out from the Bible and many pieces of the stories are missing. Whoever wrote the book of genesis 1-6 did not know the whole story, too many details were left out... There was no flow to it. Okay so now "Whoever wrote the book of genesis 1-6 did not know the whole story, too many details were left out." But of course YOU know the whole story don't you nathan ! Did God tell you that Genesis 1-6 is not the whole story? Or did you come to that conclusion yourself ! Let us use the brains got gave us, OK... In Genesis 6:2 The son of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair and took them wives of all which they choose... Then the earth was corrupt before God, and the earth filled with violence so God decided to WIPE them all out. WHAT the HECK is going on? Like some wrote was God going postal here? Why, would He do that, destroying all animals and humans because they were violence!!
The book of Enoch gave us the good reason WHY? God wanted to Wipe out the world population because the world was filled with the Nephilim/Giants the fallen angels demigods children were destroying, and extinct the human race so the Messiah could NOT enter the world. The Nephilim had to die, then the human race can survive through Noah's family, so the Messiah can enter the world to SAVE the humans sinners. God sent the Great flood world wide to kill the Nephilim and anyone who did NOT believe in God.So, why did the author of Genesis LEFT out that important information about the 200 fallen angels came down from heaven and having SEX with the women to create the Nephilims/Giants? In the book of Genesis the NIV version it mention the words Nephilim/giants but gave no detail where they came from? or WHO created them.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 29, 2018 21:37:51 GMT -5
Okay so now "Whoever wrote the book of genesis 1-6 did not know the whole story, too many details were left out." But of course YOU know the whole story don't you nathan ! Did God tell you that Genesis 1-6 is not the whole story? Or did you come to that conclusion yourself ! Let us use the brains got gave us, OK... In Genesis 6:2 The son of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair and took them wives of all which they choose... Then the earth was corrupt before God, and the earth filled with violence so God decided to WIPE them all out. WHAT the HECK is going on? Like some wrote was God going postal here? Why, would He do that, destroying all animals and humans because they were violence!!
The book of Enoch gave us the good reason WHY? God wanted to Wipe out the world population because the world was filled with the Nephilims/Giants the fallen angels demigods children were destroying, and extinct the human race so the Messiah could NOT enter the world. The Nephilims had to die, then the human race can survive through Noah's family, so the Messiah can enter the world to SAVE the humans sinners. God sent the Great flood world wide to kill the Nephilims and anyone who did NOT believe in God. nathan how many times do we have to say it "The book of Enoch" is NOT in the bible ! I am sure the Workers would love to hear your version of Genesis 1-6 , especially when you mention the book of Enoch and Nephilims ! Stop adding to what the F&W believe to suit YOUR beliefs. You do the F&W group more harm than good with all your so called "research" !
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2018 21:39:23 GMT -5
You tube.com is about as reliable for truth as a host of pathological liars. I accidentally run onto YouTube's version of the Prince Harry and friend ordeal. The queen had called for a prenup and Markle had a tantrum. I'd say that a prenup would be routine for a royal and should be expected and would be carried out before a public announcement of an engagement. Also there was another YouTube that announced that the queen and Harry had called wedding off and Markle left for LA in tears and also insinuated she was pregnant.
But there's no such truths in the daily news.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2018 21:42:16 GMT -5
Let us use the brains got gave us, OK... In Genesis 6:2 The son of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair and took them wives of all which they choose... Then the earth was corrupt before God, and the earth filled with violence so God decided to WIPE them all out. WHAT the HECK is going on? Like some wrote was God going postal here? Why, would He do that, destroying all animals and humans because they were violence!!
The book of Enoch gave us the good reason WHY? God wanted to Wipe out the world population because the world was filled with the Nephilims/Giants the fallen angels demigods children were destroying, and extinct the human race so the Messiah could NOT enter the world. The Nephilims had to die, then the human race can survive through Noah's family, so the Messiah can enter the world to SAVE the humans sinners. God sent the Great flood world wide to kill the Nephilims and anyone who did NOT believe in God. nathan how many times do we have to say it "The book of Enoch" is NOT in the bible ! I am sure the Workers would love to hear your version of Genesis 1-6 , especially when you mention the book of Enoch and Nephilims ! Stop adding to what the F&W believe to suit YOUR beliefs. You do the F&W group more harm than good with all your so called "research" ! For some ungodly reason, Nathan just has to get sex into the Bible.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2018 21:43:57 GMT -5
BTW, if God killed the Nephilims off with the flood, then there isn't any to worry about now.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 29, 2018 21:44:21 GMT -5
You tube.com is about as reliable for truth as a host of pathological liars. I accidentally run onto YouTube's version of the Prince Harry and friend ordeal. The queen had called for a prenup and Markle had a tantrum. I'd say that a prenup would be routine for a royal and should be expected and would be carried out before a public announcement of an engagement. Also there was another YouTube that announced that the queen and Harry had called wedding off and Markle left for LA in tears and also insinuated she was pregnant. But there's no such truths in the daily news. Exactly sharingtheriches, but if that is the only source there is to back up a persons delusion they will believe it is true !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 21:44:57 GMT -5
Let us use the brains got gave us, OK... In Genesis 6:2 The son of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair and took them wives of all which they choose... Then the earth was corrupt before God, and the earth filled with violence so God decided to WIPE them all out. WHAT the HECK is going on? Like some wrote was God going postal here? Why, would He do that, destroying all animals and humans because they were violence!!
The book of Enoch gave us the good reason WHY? God wanted to Wipe out the world population because the world was filled with the Nephilims/Giants the fallen angels demigods children were destroying, and extinct the human race so the Messiah could NOT enter the world. The Nephilims had to die, then the human race can survive through Noah's family, so the Messiah can enter the world to SAVE the humans sinners. God sent the Great flood world wide to kill the Nephilims and anyone who did NOT believe in God. nathan how many times do we have to say it "The book of Enoch" is NOT in the bible ! I am sure the Workers would love to hear your version of Genesis 1-6 , especially when you mention the book of Enoch and Nephilims ! Stop adding to what the F&W believe to suit YOUR beliefs. You do the F&W group more harm than good with all your so called "research" ! so now your concerned about the F&W?
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 21:51:26 GMT -5
Let us use the brains got gave us, OK... In Genesis 6:2 The son of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair and took them wives of all which they choose... Then the earth was corrupt before God, and the earth filled with violence so God decided to WIPE them all out. WHAT the HECK is going on? Like some wrote was God going postal here? Why, would He do that, destroying all animals and humans because they were violence!!
The book of Enoch gave us the good reason WHY? God wanted to Wipe out the world population because the world was filled with the Nephilims/Giants the fallen angels demigods children were destroying, and extinct the human race so the Messiah could NOT enter the world. The Nephilims had to die, then the human race can survive through Noah's family, so the Messiah can enter the world to SAVE the humans sinners. God sent the Great flood world wide to kill the Nephilims and anyone who did NOT believe in God. nathan how many times do we have to say it "The book of Enoch" is NOT in the bible ! I am sure the Workers would love to hear your version of Genesis 1-6 , especially when you mention the book of Enoch and Nephilims ! Stop adding to what the F&W believe to suit YOUR beliefs. You do the F&W group more harm than good with all your so called "research" ! And How many times did I tell you, the RCC left the book of Enoch OUT of the Bible! The book of Enoch was used as scriptures for thousands of years.... even the apostle Jude used part of the book of Enoch as scriptures in his epistle of Jude. The word Nephilim/giants is used in the NIV version... but in the book of Genesis it doesn't explain Who they were! It didn't say it was 200 fallen angels had SEX with the women of this earth... In Genesis 6:2 it said the sons of god Saw the daughters of men.... hmmmmm.. WHY, was the author of Genesis chapter 6 misleading the readers?
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 22:04:36 GMT -5
BTW, if God killed the Nephilims off with the flood, then there isn't any to worry about now. Well, it seemed God did NOT get them ALL because they were MANY, MANY of them survived had cities in the promised land when the 12 spies told Moses and the children about the Nephilim/giant fortress walls, and their seizes, and the 12 spies looked like grasshoppers compare to the Nephilim/giants. They were terrified and the 10 spies discouraged the children of Israel from entering and occupying the promised land that God has promised to give it to them.
God was disappointed in their lack of faith in Him, in defeating the Nephilim/demigods race of giants again... So, God lead the children of Israel through the desert route wandering for 40 yrs. before they entered the promised land. ONLY the 20 yrs old under, Joshua, Kaleb, Aaron entered the promised land the rest died outside the promised land even Moses.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 29, 2018 22:06:41 GMT -5
nathan how many times do we have to say it "The book of Enoch" is NOT in the bible ! I am sure the Workers would love to hear your version of Genesis 1-6 , especially when you mention the book of Enoch and Nephilims ! Stop adding to what the F&W believe to suit YOUR beliefs. You do the F&W group more harm than good with all your so called "research" ! so now your concerned about the F&W? nathan is quick to brag about all the people he has told and the amount of the F&W that have read his "research" as if he is doing some great thing, but all he is doing is making it worse. I still have a lot of family in the 2x2 church @wally so why wouldn't I be concerned !
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 22:11:36 GMT -5
so now your concerned about the F&W? nathan is quick to brag about all the people he has told and the amount of the F&W that have read his "research" as if he is doing some great thing, but all he is doing is making it worse. I still have a lot of family in the 2x2 church @wally so why wouldn't I be concerned ! hmmmmm.... that is a bunch of Baloney, RT.... you don't care about them, if you did you would have told them about my research that there has always been men and women who had the similar 2x2 apostolic workers ministry and New Testament fellowship prior to William Irvine and John Long in 1898-1901.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2018 22:16:19 GMT -5
so now your concerned about the F&W? nathan is quick to brag about all the people he has told and the amount of the F&W that have read his "research" as if he is doing some great thing, but all he is doing is making it worse. I still have a lot of family in the 2x2 church @wally so why wouldn't I be concerned ! I'd be afraid that people getting knowledge of Nathan's "research" would start running backwards and be apt to say they'd always known two by twos were weird, but this research of Nathan's just proves how crazy they all are.
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 22:42:17 GMT -5
nathan is quick to brag about all the people he has told and the amount of the F&W that have read his "research" as if he is doing some great thing, but all he is doing is making it worse. I still have a lot of family in the 2x2 church @wally so why wouldn't I be concerned ! I'd be afraid that people getting knowledge of Nathan's "research" would start running backwards and be apt to say they'd always known two by twos were weird, but this research of Nathan's just proves how crazy they all are. The early workers have preached there has always been men and women preaching like them through the ages! but they have no history documents to prove it..... I have the history to BACK up what the early workers preached and believed. I would NOT say that is weird research....
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2018 22:45:00 GMT -5
I'd be afraid that people getting knowledge of Nathan's "research" would start running backwards and be apt to say they'd always known tw hio by twos were weird, but this research of Nathan's just proves how crazy they all are. The early workers have preached there has always been men and women preaching like them through the ages! but they have no history documents to prove it..... I have the history to BACK up what the early workers preached and believed. I would NOT say that is weird research.... I'm not talking about that and you know it. I'm talking about your sex and fallen angels and God's inability to kill the Nephilims with world wide flood etc.
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 22:59:01 GMT -5
I'm not talking about that and you know it. I'm talking about your sex and fallen angels and God's inability to kill the Nephilims with world wide flood etc. Oh, that.... Well, people have NOT read the book of Enoch.... it posted the link the book of Enoch on here in the past, they can read it for themselves, you know. Even the early fathers KNOW and READ the book of Enoch.
~~ Apostolic fathers teachings about Demons/Giants: (Genesis 6:4)
There were Giants on the earth in those days, and also AFTERWARD, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore Children to them. Those were mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
~~ Justin Martyr (160 A.D.) The angels transgressed this appointment and were captived by love of women and they begat Children/Giants, who are called DEMONS.
~~ Athenagoras (170 A.D.) These angels, then, who have fallen from heaven, and haunt the air and the earth, and are no longer able to rise to heavenly things, and the souls of the Giants, who are the DEMONS, who wander about the world. Furthermore, certain angels who fell of their own free will, there sprang a more wicked demon brood, condemned of God along with the authors of their race. Their great business is the ruin of mankind. So, from the start, spiritual wickedness sought our destruction. Accordingly, they inflict upon our bodies diseases and other grievous calamities.
~~ Commodianus (248 A.D.) From the seed of the fallen angels and women, Giants are said to have been born. By them, arts were made known in the earth. They taught the dyeing of wool and everything that is done. When they DIED, men erected images to them. Yet, because they were of an evil seed, the Almighty did NOT approve of their being brought back from death when they had died. For that reason, they wander and they now subvert many bodies. And it is these whom the pagans presently worship and pray to as gods.
~~ Lactanius (303-313) The Giants who were born from the relations of angels with women were neither angels nor men, but had a MIXED nature---- were NOT admitted into hades when they died. Similarly, their fallen angels fathers had NOT been admitted into heaven, either. Thus there came to be TWO kinds of demons: One of heaven, the other of the earth. The latter are the wicked spirits, who are the authors of all the EVILS that are done. These wicked spirits were the inventors of astrology, soothsaying, divination, those production that are called oracles, the art of magic.
~~ Origen (225 A.D.) Now, of the wicked spirits, there is a two fold mode of operation. Sometimes they take complete and entire possession of the mind, so as NOT to allow their captives the power of either understanding or feeling. For example, this is the case with those who are commonly called "Possessed" whom we see to be deprived of reason. At other times, these evil forces use their wicked suggestions to deprave a conscious and intelligent souls with thoughts of various kinds---- Persuading it to do evil. Judas is an illustration of this.
The one direct quote in the New Testament is by Jude, a brother of Jesus Christ:
Jude 1:14-15, quoting Enoch 1:9 {2:1} [1] "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches, which ungodly sinners have spoken against him."
Well, How do you explain where and how so MANY of the Nephilim/giants exist in the promised land after the flood happened 2000 yrs ago, when Moses and the children of Israel saw them with their own eyes?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2018 23:13:06 GMT -5
I'm not talking about that and you know it. I'm talking about your sex and fallen angels and God's inability to kill the Nephilims with world wide flood etc. Oh, that.... Well, people have NOT read the book of Enoch.... it posted the link the book of Enoch on here in the past, they can read it for themselves, you know.
Well, How do you explain where and how so MANY of the Nephilim/giants exist in the promised land when Moses and the children of Israel saw them with their own eyes?The Phillestine Giants are the ones read about and battled against by Children of Israel. They weren't Nephilims but normal humans with large frames. Actually the Phillestine stories are more about spiritual and fleshly battles. The Phillestines represent human flesh and it's lusts that have outgrown the decency that should be found in humans. Just like the cluster of grapes that the Children of Israel spies carried back to Joshua. It took several men to carry it on a pole.I have to think that either because of wandering in the wilderness for forty years of the C o Israel were not stunted in growth in they carried the whole vine of grapes on their pole. Maybe both. Sometimes in rightly dividing the Word of God, we have to kind of use common horse sense and realize some of the OT stories have been told with a bias or at least a spiritual bias to them.
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Post by Grant on Jan 29, 2018 23:21:16 GMT -5
I'd be afraid that people getting knowledge of Nathan's "research" would start running backwards and be apt to say they'd always known two by twos were weird, but this research of Nathan's just proves how crazy they all are. The early workers have preached there has always been men and women preaching like them through the ages! but they have no history documents to prove it..... I have the history to BACK up what the early workers preached and believed. I would NOT say that is weird research.... I have not read where the early workers preached there have always been people preaching like them. They obviously believed they were unique or surely they would have joined these other people. The later workers preached that they were from the beginning and only them. No one else.
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2018 23:26:04 GMT -5
Oh, that.... Well, people have NOT read the book of Enoch.... it posted the link the book of Enoch on here in the past, they can read it for themselves, you know.
Well, How do you explain where and how so MANY of the Nephilim/giants exist in the promised land when Moses and the children of Israel saw them with their own eyes? The Phillestine Giants are the ones read about and battled against by Children of Israel. They weren't Nephilims but normal humans with large frames. Actually the Phillestine stories are more about spiritual and fleshly battles. The Phillestines represent human flesh and it's lusts that have outgrown the decency that should be found in humans. Just like the cluster of grapes that the Children of Israel spies carried back to Joshua. It took several men to carry it on a pole.I have to think that either because of wandering in the wilderness for forty years of the C o Israel were not stunted in growth in they carried the whole vine of grapes on their pole. Maybe both. Sometimes in rightly dividing the Word of God, we have to kind of use common horse sense and realize some of the OT stories have been told with a bias or at least a spiritual bias to them. You need to google about HOW many giants/Nephilim races living in the promised lands....
There are 7 races of Nephilim giants living in the promised land after Noah world Wide flood .
SEVEN GIANTS IN THE LAND Also, God didn't say we have to fight these battles alone. When Moses told the children of Israel about the Promised Land, he said that God would "cast out" their enemies:
"When the Lord your God brings you into the land which you go to possess, and has cast out many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgash-es and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than you . . . " Deuteronomy 7:1 (Emphasis mine) So let's examine four more enemies that the Israelites had to confront in order to enter into God's promises: the Jebusites, the Girgash-es, the Canaanites, and Hittites. (Next week in Part 2 we'll take a look at three more strongholds -- the Perizzites, the Amorites, and the Hivites.)
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Gen 6:4 4 ¶ There were giants (nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. In the original text is the word nephilim, which comes from the word naphal, which means to fall. The giants were descendants of fallen angels and the daughters of men. Before the Flood, the sons of God (fallen angels) had the sexual relationship with the daughters of men, who bore children to them. Text says that also after that were giants in the earth, that means that fallen angels had the sexual relationship with the daughters of men also after the Flood. From verse 4 we can see that also after the Flood the sons of God (fallen angels) had been sexual intercourse with the daughters of men, who bore children to them and like this, there were giants in the earth after the Flood. Num 13:33 And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim; and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.' (JPS 1917) Num 13:33 proves that also after the Flood fallen angels had been sexual intercourse with the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Num 13:33 says that the Israelites saw the giants in the land of Canaan, the sons of Anak, who descended from the giants (fallen angels).
Jewish Publication Society Bible (JPS 1917) is the Bible translated from Hebrew into English by Jewish rabbis. JPS 1917 Num 13:33 translates according to the original text: we saw the giants (nephilim), the sons of Anak, who come of (descendants) the giants (nephilim). The fallen angels impregnated satanic seed to the daughters of men, and as the consequence of this their descendants (the giants) made filthy and satanic sins. For this reason God decided to destroy the satanic seed from the earth, and the Flood drowned all people, except Noah's family. The original text of the Bible proves clearly that fallen angels had been sexual intercourse with the daughters of men after the Flood. Therefore, Gen 6:4 said after that (the Flood) the sons of God (fallen angels) had the sexual relationship with the daughters of men, because after the Flood in the earth had lived the giants as the Bible also proves this. You can ask that how it is possible, that after the Flood can be the giants, for in the Ark were only Noah and his family no other people. The fallen angels are evil spirits, which after the Flood impregnated again the daughters of men. The fallen angels are not limited and bound by the borders of the human body, because they are evil spirits and the fallen angels didn't die in the Flood, but they continued deceiving the men by sins after the Flood. Because the Bible speaks that after the Flood, were giants and their descendants in the earth, it means that the fallen angels impregnated again the daughters of men. Their descendants became giant nations, in which the Old Testament tells. Before the Flood, the fallen angels and the daughters of men had been the sexual relationship with each other, and for this reason evil of sin got terrible proportions in the earth. According to the Bible, God commanded to destroy the nations, who were after the flood descended from fallen angels and the nations which had adopted their habits. Evil spirits (fallen angels) had the sexual relationship with the daughters of men, and their descendants were under evil sins like burning their children in the fire as offerings to the idols. They lived violently, make contact with evil spirits, practiced unnatural sexual activities (homosexuality, bestiality).
The angels in the heaven don't marry
Matt 22:30 for in the resurrection of the dead, they do not take wives, nor are wives given to husbands; but they are as the angels of god in heaven.
Some people teach that the angels don't marry and therefore, the fallen angels couldn't have the sexual relationship with the daughters of men and took them as wives. They based on their doctrine on Matthew 22:30. When we research this whole subject in the light of the Bible's teaching, so we can see that the Bible teaches that the fallen angels impregnated the daughters of men and they got descendants (the giants).
Matthew 22:30 says, that the angels in the heaven don't marry. The angels in the heaven are obedient and loyal to God, and they don't marry, but the fallen angels had impregnated the daughters of men as the Bible says to us in Genesis 6:4.
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