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Post by snow on Jan 28, 2018 16:15:30 GMT -5
Your belief system is unique Nathan. A jumble of YouTube ideas. Are you the only Nathanism believer? haha It's ALL in the Bible but people don't know or understand it.... It's lost in translations.... I have tried to explain and share these with you folks for years....
Is it all in the bible. I'm reading the bible again and it clearly says in Genesis chapter 4:1 And Adam Knew Eve his wife' and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. You say that Cain is the son of the devil but clearly the bible says he is Adam's son.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2018 16:34:34 GMT -5
haha It's ALL in the Bible but people don't know or understand it.... It's lost in translations.... I have tried to explain and share these with you folks for years....
Is it all in the bible. I'm reading the bible again and it clearly says in Genesis chapter 4:1 And Adam Knew Eve his wife' and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. You say that Cain is the son of the devil but clearly the bible says he is Adam's son. READ Genesis chapter 3:15 God is telling Eve TWO different/DNA sons in her womb after she ate the forbidden fruit/Satan in the Garden of Eden... She had sex with Adam and the Serpent/Satan= Two sons different DNA, Cain and Abel. Cain is a murder like his father, Satan a murder from beginning. Abel is Adam's Son love serving the God with all his heart.
Gen 3:13-16 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
And I will put enmity between thee/Serpent-Satan and the woman, and between thy/Satan seed and her/Adam seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. ~~ Cain KILLED Abel.... Cain's father is Satan. We don't READ Cain and his descendants on Adam lineage because he is NOT his son. Cain and his descendants are of Satan, they have always been here and running the world the demigods/illuminati are the rulers and gods of this earth planet. They were created by Satan with Eve to RULE over Adam's and Eve children that is us.
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Post by snow on Jan 28, 2018 16:52:17 GMT -5
Is it all in the bible. I'm reading the bible again and it clearly says in Genesis chapter 4:1 And Adam Knew Eve his wife' and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. You say that Cain is the son of the devil but clearly the bible says he is Adam's son. READ Genesis chapter 3:15 God is telling Eve TWO different/DNA sons in her womb after she ate the forbidden fruit/Satan in the Garden of Eden... She had sex with Adam and the Serpent/Satan= Two sons different DNA, Cain and Abel. Cain is a murder like his father, Satan a murder from beginning. Abel is Adam's Son love serving the God with all his heart.
Gen 3:13-16 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
And I will put enmity between thee/Serpent-Satan and the woman, and between thy/Satan seed and her/Adam seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. ~~ Cain KILLED Abel.... Cain's father is Satan. We don't READ Cain and his descendants on Adam lineage because he is NOT his son. Cain and his descendants are of Satan, they have always been here and running the world the demigods/illuminati are the rulers and gods of this earth planet. They were created by Satan with Eve to RULE over Adam's and Eve children that is us.
No here is what 3:15 says. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between they seed and her seed; it shall bruise they head and thou shalt bruise his heel. God is talking to the serpent here and he clearly says that the woman's seed would be different from the serpents seed and the two would be at odds. If he'd been talking about Adam's seed it might have made sense. But he wasn't. And, once again, God alludes to yet another woman on earth to bear the serpents seed and that that seed would be at odds with Eve's seed. We know there had to be other people on earth other than Adam and Eve because when Cain murders Abel he goes off to Nod and marries someone. It also clearly says that Cain's line will be protected and God places a sign on him and those in his line to clearly say they are off limits to persecute. It all makes very little sense, but then, it is the bible.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2018 17:15:10 GMT -5
READ Genesis chapter 3:15 God is telling Eve TWO different/DNA sons in her womb after she ate the forbidden fruit/Satan in the Garden of Eden... She had sex with Adam and the Serpent/Satan= Two sons different DNA, Cain and Abel. Cain is a murder like his father, Satan a murder from beginning. Abel is Adam's Son love serving the God with all his heart.
Gen 3:13-16 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
And I will put enmity between thee/Serpent-Satan and the woman, and between thy/Satan seed and her/Adam seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. ~~ Cain KILLED Abel.... Cain's father is Satan. We don't READ Cain and his descendants on Adam lineage because he is NOT his son. Cain and his descendants are of Satan, they have always been here and running the world the demigods/illuminati are the rulers and gods of this earth planet. They were created by Satan with Eve to RULE over Adam's and Eve children that is us.
No here is what 3:15 says. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between they seed and her seed; it shall bruise they head and thou shalt bruise his heel. God is talking to the serpent here and he clearly says that the woman's seed would be different from the serpents seed and the two would be at odds. If he'd been talking about Adam's seed it might have made sense. But he wasn't. And, once again, God alludes to yet another woman on earth to bear the serpents seed and that that seed would be at odds with Eve's seed. We know there had to be other people on earth other than Adam and Eve because when Cain murders Abel he goes off to Nod and marries someone. It also clearly says that Cain's line will be protected and God places a sign on him and those in his line to clearly say they are off limits to persecute. It all makes very little sense, but then, it is the bible. ANCESTRY
The Bible says Cain was the first born of Eve, he is not mentioned in Adam’s lineage. The following scriptures uphold the fact that Cain was not Adam’s son. The fact that Cain is not listed in the lineage of Adam in Genesis 5, 1 Chronicles, nor in the record of genealogy in Luke 4, reveals he was an illegitimate son. (of Satan in the Garden of Eden) (Cain stands alone in his lineage and his genealogy is listed separately.) Genesis 5: 1 This is the family history of Adam.3 When Adam was 130 years old, he became the father of another son in his likeness and image, and Adam named him Seth. 6 When Seth was 105 years old, he had a son named Enosh.9 When Enosh was 90 years old, he had a son named Kenan 12 When Kenan was 70 years old, he had a son named Mahalalel 15 When Mahalalel was 65 years old, he had a son named Jared. 18 When Jared was 162 years old, he had a son named Enoch. 21 When Enoch was 65 years old, he had a son named Methuselah 25 When Methuselah was 187 years old, he had a son named Lamech 28 When Lamech was 182, he had a son.29 Lamech named his son Noah 32 After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham, and Japheth ~~ SNOW, do you have any explanation why? Adam and Eve first born son CAIN, was LEFT out of Adam lineage? Did you know in the Old Testament that the FIRST born Son, receives his father's blessing and inheritance. So, why did Adam left Cain out of receiving the blessing, inheritance and Adam family lineage? unless, Adam KNEW Cain was NOT his Son at all.
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Post by snow on Jan 28, 2018 18:02:47 GMT -5
No here is what 3:15 says. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between they seed and her seed; it shall bruise they head and thou shalt bruise his heel. God is talking to the serpent here and he clearly says that the woman's seed would be different from the serpents seed and the two would be at odds. If he'd been talking about Adam's seed it might have made sense. But he wasn't. And, once again, God alludes to yet another woman on earth to bear the serpents seed and that that seed would be at odds with Eve's seed. We know there had to be other people on earth other than Adam and Eve because when Cain murders Abel he goes off to Nod and marries someone. It also clearly says that Cain's line will be protected and God places a sign on him and those in his line to clearly say they are off limits to persecute. It all makes very little sense, but then, it is the bible. ANCESTRY
The Bible says Cain was the first born of Eve, he is not mentioned in Adam’s lineage. The following scriptures uphold the fact that Cain was not Adam’s son. The fact that Cain is not listed in the lineage of Adam in Genesis 5, 1 Chronicles, nor in the record of genealogy in Luke 4, reveals he was an illegitimate son. (of Satan in the Garden of Eden) (Cain stands alone in his lineage and his genealogy is listed separately.) Genesis 5: 1 This is the family history of Adam.3 When Adam was 130 years old, he became the father of another son in his likeness and image, and Adam named him Seth. 6 When Seth was 105 years old, he had a son named Enosh.9 When Enosh was 90 years old, he had a son named Kenan 12 When Kenan was 70 years old, he had a son named Mahalalel 15 When Mahalalel was 65 years old, he had a son named Jared. 18 When Jared was 162 years old, he had a son named Enoch. 21 When Enoch was 65 years old, he had a son named Methuselah 25 When Methuselah was 187 years old, he had a son named Lamech 28 When Lamech was 182, he had a son.29 Lamech named his son Noah 32 After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham, and Japheth ~~ SNOW, do you have any explanation why? Adam and Eve first born son CAIN, was LEFT out of Adam lineage? Did you know in the Old Testament that the FIRST born Son, receives his father's blessing and inheritance. So, why did Adam left Cain out of receiving the blessing, inheritance and Adam family lineage? unless, Adam KNEW Cain was NOT his Son at all.
No Nathan, it doesn't say that Cain is not Adam's son. It says that he would be hid from the face of God (which means he was not before he murdered his brother). That he would be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth and it shall come to pass, that everyone that findeth me shall slay me Genesis 4:14, which means he wasn't always a fugitive and a vagabond and no one would want to slay him until 'after' he murdered his brother. Nowhere does it say that he was the serpents seed. Like I already quoted to you it says the exact opposite. Eve's seed would be at odds with the serpents seed. Since both Cain and Abel were born to her (her seed) and her seed would be at odds with the serpent's seed, there is no way that Cain can be the son of the serpent. And for you to say that, you'd have to ignore Genesis 4:1 where it says that Cain was Adam's son.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 18:31:36 GMT -5
chapter ......”All those years I sent my beloved wise old man Nathan who passed on his wise knowledge over the fields of internet; repeateth many many times his knowledge and understanding to the hundreds and thousands & you turned your back on his knowledge & believed in your heart thou fool...and went forth with no understanding. Thou even doubted from whence I came and abode, in my absence. Thou hast also doubted the wisdom of my helpers; commanders and admirals. Depart from me, I do not know you, oh ye of little faith.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 18:37:16 GMT -5
No here is what 3:15 says. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between they seed and her seed; it shall bruise they head and thou shalt bruise his heel. God is talking to the serpent here and he clearly says that the woman's seed would be different from the serpents seed and the two would be at odds. If he'd been talking about Adam's seed it might have made sense. But he wasn't. And, once again, God alludes to yet another woman on earth to bear the serpents seed and that that seed would be at odds with Eve's seed. We know there had to be other people on earth other than Adam and Eve because when Cain murders Abel he goes off to Nod and marries someone. It also clearly says that Cain's line will be protected and God places a sign on him and those in his line to clearly say they are off limits to persecute. It all makes very little sense, but then, it is the bible. ANCESTRY
The Bible says Cain was the first born of Eve, he is not mentioned in Adam’s lineage. The following scriptures uphold the fact that Cain was not Adam’s son. The fact that Cain is not listed in the lineage of Adam in Genesis 5, 1 Chronicles, nor in the record of genealogy in Luke 4, reveals he was an illegitimate son. (of Satan in the Garden of Eden) (Cain stands alone in his lineage and his genealogy is listed separately.) Genesis 5: 1 This is the family history of Adam.3 When Adam was 130 years old, he became the father of another son in his likeness and image, and Adam named him Seth. 6 When Seth was 105 years old, he had a son named Enosh.9 When Enosh was 90 years old, he had a son named Kenan 12 When Kenan was 70 years old, he had a son named Mahalalel 15 When Mahalalel was 65 years old, he had a son named Jared. 18 When Jared was 162 years old, he had a son named Enoch. 21 When Enoch was 65 years old, he had a son named Methuselah 25 When Methuselah was 187 years old, he had a son named Lamech 28 When Lamech was 182, he had a son.29 Lamech named his son Noah 32 After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham, and Japheth ~~ SNOW, do you have any explanation why? Adam and Eve first born son CAIN, was LEFT out of Adam lineage? Did you know in the Old Testament that the FIRST born Son, receives his father's blessing and inheritance. So, why did Adam left Cain out of receiving the blessing, inheritance and Adam family lineage? unless, Adam KNEW Cain was NOT his Son at all.
because seths children are the ones that brought us Jesus...cain sealed his fate with the murder of abel...
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2018 18:43:48 GMT -5
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The Bible says Cain was the first born of Eve, he is not mentioned in Adam’s lineage. The following scriptures uphold the fact that Cain was not Adam’s son. The fact that Cain is not listed in the lineage of Adam in Genesis 5, 1 Chronicles, nor in the record of genealogy in Luke 4, reveals he was an illegitimate son. (of Satan in the Garden of Eden) (Cain stands alone in his lineage and his genealogy is listed separately.) Genesis 5: 1 This is the family history of Adam.3 When Adam was 130 years old, he became the father of another son in his likeness and image, and Adam named him Seth. 6 When Seth was 105 years old, he had a son named Enosh.9 When Enosh was 90 years old, he had a son named Kenan 12 When Kenan was 70 years old, he had a son named Mahalalel 15 When Mahalalel was 65 years old, he had a son named Jared. 18 When Jared was 162 years old, he had a son named Enoch. 21 When Enoch was 65 years old, he had a son named Methuselah 25 When Methuselah was 187 years old, he had a son named Lamech 28 When Lamech was 182, he had a son.29 Lamech named his son Noah 32 After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham, and Japheth ~~ SNOW, do you have any explanation why? Adam and Eve first born son CAIN, was LEFT out of Adam lineage? Did you know in the Old Testament that the FIRST born Son, receives his father's blessing and inheritance. So, why did Adam left Cain out of receiving the blessing, inheritance and Adam family lineage? unless, Adam KNEW Cain was NOT his Son at all.
because seths children are the ones that brought us Jesus...cain sealed his fate with the murder of abel... Yes, I know about Seth and his descendants they are on Adam lineage.... My question is WHY did Adam left OUT Cain, his first born son and his descendants OUT of his family lineage?
Do you cut your first born child completely from the family lineage because he was Jealous and killed one of your sons? or was there something darker?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 18:46:59 GMT -5
because seths children are the ones that brought us Jesus...cain sealed his fate with the murder of abel... Yes, I know about Seth and his descendants they are on Adam lineage.... My question is WHY did Adam left OUT Cain, his first born son and his descendants OUT of his family lineage?
Do you cut your first born child completely from the family lineage because he was Jealous and killed one of your sons? or was there something darker?
my self personally i would disown a son who murdered my other son and i wouldn't be alone in that thought....i could see adam doing that and God....
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2018 18:48:20 GMT -5
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The Bible says Cain was the first born of Eve, he is not mentioned in Adam’s lineage. The following scriptures uphold the fact that Cain was not Adam’s son. The fact that Cain is not listed in the lineage of Adam in Genesis 5, 1 Chronicles, nor in the record of genealogy in Luke 4, reveals he was an illegitimate son. (of Satan in the Garden of Eden) (Cain stands alone in his lineage and his genealogy is listed separately.) Genesis 5: 1 This is the family history of Adam.3 When Adam was 130 years old, he became the father of another son in his likeness and image, and Adam named him Seth. 6 When Seth was 105 years old, he had a son named Enosh.9 When Enosh was 90 years old, he had a son named Kenan 12 When Kenan was 70 years old, he had a son named Mahalalel 15 When Mahalalel was 65 years old, he had a son named Jared. 18 When Jared was 162 years old, he had a son named Enoch. 21 When Enoch was 65 years old, he had a son named Methuselah 25 When Methuselah was 187 years old, he had a son named Lamech 28 When Lamech was 182, he had a son.29 Lamech named his son Noah 32 After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham, and Japheth ~~ SNOW, do you have any explanation why? Adam and Eve first born son CAIN, was LEFT out of Adam lineage? Did you know in the Old Testament that the FIRST born Son, receives his father's blessing and inheritance. So, why did Adam left Cain out of receiving the blessing, inheritance and Adam family lineage? unless, Adam KNEW Cain was NOT his Son at all.
No Nathan, it doesn't say that Cain is not Adam's son. It says that he would be hid from the face of God (which means he was not before he murdered his brother). That he would be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth and it shall come to pass, that everyone that findeth me shall slay me Genesis 4:14, which means he wasn't always a fugitive and a vagabond and no one would want to slay him until 'after' he murdered his brother. Nowhere does it say that he was the serpents seed. Like I already quoted to you it says the exact opposite. Eve's seed would be at odds with the serpents seed. Since both Cain and Abel were born to her (her seed) and her seed would be at odds with the serpent's seed, there is no way that Cain can be the son of the serpent. And for you to say that, you'd have to ignore Genesis 4:1 where it says that Cain was Adam's son. So, you THINK God took the god-like super power/natures and sent Adam and Eve to Everlasting fire because they ate some fruits on the tree in the Garden of Eden? Come on!
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2018 18:51:41 GMT -5
Yes, I know about Seth and his descendants they are on Adam lineage.... My question is WHY did Adam left OUT Cain, his first born son and his descendants OUT of his family lineage?
Do you cut your first born child completely from the family lineage because he was Jealous and killed one of your sons? or was there something darker?
my self personally i would disown a son who murdered my other son and i wouldn't be alone in that thought....i could see adam doing that and God... Well, many parents would disagree with your thinking. I could NOT do that by cut him off and his children from my family name forever.....
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Post by snow on Jan 28, 2018 19:03:12 GMT -5
No Nathan, it doesn't say that Cain is not Adam's son. It says that he would be hid from the face of God (which means he was not before he murdered his brother). That he would be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth and it shall come to pass, that everyone that findeth me shall slay me Genesis 4:14, which means he wasn't always a fugitive and a vagabond and no one would want to slay him until 'after' he murdered his brother. Nowhere does it say that he was the serpents seed. Like I already quoted to you it says the exact opposite. Eve's seed would be at odds with the serpents seed. Since both Cain and Abel were born to her (her seed) and her seed would be at odds with the serpent's seed, there is no way that Cain can be the son of the serpent. And for you to say that, you'd have to ignore Genesis 4:1 where it says that Cain was Adam's son. So, you THINK God took the god-like super power/natures and sent Adam and Eve to Everlasting fire because they ate some fruits on the tree in the Garden of Eden? Come on!
What are you talking about. He didn't send them to everlasting fire. He made them live as humans on earth and not protected and innocent in a garden. Adam and Eve never had any god like super powers or natures. They were two very uninformed humans that didn't even know good from evil until they ate from the tree and yes, it says right there in the bible in the verse I quoted, why God kicked them out. He was afraid that they would become immortal (live forever) like him and he made sure he kicked them out and protected that tree so that couldn't happen.
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Post by snow on Jan 28, 2018 19:06:21 GMT -5
my self personally i would disown a son who murdered my other son and i wouldn't be alone in that thought....i could see adam doing that and God... Well, many parents would disagree with your thinking. I could NOT do that by cut him off and his children from my family name forever.....
Yet God does that to his children all the time when he sends them to hell. And, it's for a lot less than murder. It's for not believing in him existing among other things. We get slashed from the book of life, which is pretty much the same as being disowned in our world though the consequences are harsher of course. If you read the bible, God is the one that made Cain leave and not be recognized in the lineage, not Adam.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2018 19:08:58 GMT -5
So, you THINK God took the god-like super power/natures and sent Adam and Eve to Everlasting fire because they ate some fruits on the tree in the Garden of Eden? Come on!
What are you talking about. He didn't send them to everlasting fire. He made them live as humans on earth and not protected and innocent in a garden. Adam and Eve never had any god like super powers or natures. They were two very uninformed humans that didn't even know good from evil until they ate from the tree and yes, it says right there in the bible in the verse I quoted, why God kicked them out. He was afraid that they would become immortal (live forever) like him and he made sure he kicked them out and protected that tree so that couldn't happen. 1st Death mean naturally death bodies go back to dust and also the Second death= Everlasting fire... God did want Adam and Eve and their descendants to LIVE in SINFUL state forever if they ate the tree of life AFTER the FALL. That was why God sent an angel to guard the Tree of Life.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 28, 2018 19:14:27 GMT -5
You mean like Valiant Thor, who nathan believes is real or Dr Frank Strange, @wally ? lets keep it to the subject at hand shall we...the val thor on TMB is an imposter so is admiral byrd and were pretty sure its either RAM or curlywurlysammagee nathan is nathan who at one time used his real full name and picture...the gig is up... I do understand what you are saying about impostors posting here, -Wally.
You do have a legitimate point.
However, -if there really was someone claiming to be a person called Valiant Thor from Venus, -then Roselyn is also correct because he too would have been a imposter to start with!
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Post by snow on Jan 28, 2018 19:23:07 GMT -5
What are you talking about. He didn't send them to everlasting fire. He made them live as humans on earth and not protected and innocent in a garden. Adam and Eve never had any god like super powers or natures. They were two very uninformed humans that didn't even know good from evil until they ate from the tree and yes, it says right there in the bible in the verse I quoted, why God kicked them out. He was afraid that they would become immortal (live forever) like him and he made sure he kicked them out and protected that tree so that couldn't happen. 1st Death mean naturally death bodies go back to dust and also the Second death= Everlasting fire... God did want Adam and Eve and their descendants to LIVE in SINFUL state forever if they ate the tree of life AFTER the FALL. That was why God sent an angel to guard the Tree of Life.
But they didn't live in everlasting fire. Wasn't the whole reason for Jesus' death to save those who had died and those yet to be born. Adam and Eve died and so did all their descendants. A lot of them died in the story about the flood. So Adam and Eve and all their descendants didn't go to an everlasting fire as you say. Also, they never ate from the tree of life because God didn't want them to live forever. Which is interesting isn't it. Because technically, we do live forever and no one has eaten from the tree. Some have it warmer in their happily ever after, but everyone is immortal if we look at it that way.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 28, 2018 20:14:26 GMT -5
READ Genesis chapter 3:15 God is telling Eve TWO different/DNA sons in her womb after she ate the forbidden fruit/Satan in the Garden of Eden... She had sex with Adam and the Serpent/Satan= Two sons different DNA, Cain and Abel. Cain is a murder like his father, Satan a murder from beginning. Abel is Adam's Son love serving the God with all his heart.
Gen 3:13-16 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
And I will put enmity between thee/Serpent-Satan and the woman, and between thy/Satan seed and her/Adam seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. ~~ Cain KILLED Abel.... Cain's father is Satan. We don't READ Cain and his descendants on Adam lineage because he is NOT his son. Cain and his descendants are of Satan, they have always been here and running the world the demigods/illuminati are the rulers and gods of this earth planet. They were created by Satan with Eve to RULE over Adam's and Eve children that is us.
Nathan, Nathan!
Gen 3:13-16 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
We use a euphemism of having sex with someone as "sleeping" with them which can make a little sense since people are (usually) lying down, Although hardly "sleeping!"
But implying that Eve became pregnant because The serpent "beguiled" her and she "did eat," -did "eat" what? Eat something from the Serpent?
That's FAR OUT, MAN!
Maybe it would help you understand if you studied human reproduction.
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Post by rational on Jan 28, 2018 20:40:09 GMT -5
nathan , you believe that Dr Frank has met Val Thor ! You have no evidence to back that up, then you call someone who posts as Val Thor on TMB an impostor ! Can you prove anything that Dr Frank has said ? Yes, he met Val Thor in person MANY times. The first time they met was in 1960 and continue meetings with him until his death 2005. Here is Dr. Frank S. lecture meeting with Val. Thor in 1960 at the Pentagon. www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk47O2-_eRcAnd Frank S. also wrote a book about Valiant Thor: Stranger/ET at the Pentagon. And a short film feature was made about the arrival of Val. Thor from 1957-1960 at the Pentagon.Doesn't it seem, nathan, strange that there are no other reports of this except those from F. Stranges and reports based on the novels of Stranges? Given the hundreds, if not thousands, of people who would have been involved it would not been uncommon that someone would have 'leaked' the story. That someone would have produced a document. One thing governments do is to keep a lot of documents.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 20:57:13 GMT -5
Yes, he met Val Thor in person MANY times. The first time they met was in 1960 and continue meetings with him until his death 2005. Here is Dr. Frank S. lecture meeting with Val. Thor in 1960 at the Pentagon. www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk47O2-_eRcAnd Frank S. also wrote a book about Valiant Thor: Stranger/ET at the Pentagon. And a short film feature was made about the arrival of Val. Thor from 1957-1960 at the Pentagon. Doesn't it seem, nathan , strange that there are no other reports of this except those from F. Stranges and reports based on the novels of Stranges? Given the hundreds, if not thousands, of people who would have been involved it would not been uncommon that someone would have 'leaked' the story. That someone would have produced a document. One thing governments do is to keep a lot of documents. not that i believe in valiant thor but look at JFK's assassination we still don't know the true story of what happened and that was almost 70 years ago...
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Post by rational on Jan 28, 2018 21:14:52 GMT -5
SHORT-FILM ACCOLADES SEE THE STARS OF THE SHORT FILM FILMMAKER CRAIG CAMPOBASSO
Stranger at the Pentagon is inspired by True Events from the book of the same name. It was first published in 1967. It remains a UFO Classic to date.
Craig Campobasso directed, wrote and produced the short-film Stranger at the Pentagon, which was adapted from the popular UFO book authored by the late Dr. Frank E. Stranges. After production, the short film collected accolades. In September 2014, it won Best Sci-Fi film at the Burbank International Film Festival, selling out all 275 seats—a first for the festival. In 2015, it won a Remi Award at the Worldfest Houston International Film Festival for Best Sci-Fi Short. In July 2016, filmmaker Craig Campobasso appeared on The History Channel’s Ancient Aliens. He shared the Stranger at the Pentagon story, about Universal Envoy Valiant Thor, and about his friend and colleague Dr. Frank Stranges. Episode: The Mysterious Nine.
Somehow, nathan , everyone but you gets that the account is science fiction. Is there anything Laura does not believe?The title of the show says it all. There is no indication of a Harley Byrd in the very thoroughly documented family tree. And there is no letter to be examined and verified as authentic. Comic-Con - A comic book convention. Come on nathan . This is what you consider evidence???
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 21:16:27 GMT -5
hahaha... NO, I just pass on the information to hundreds, and thousands of people on the Internet... Believe it or NOT is up to the readers. Val Thor mission is to remind people on earth that Jesus/his creator from Venus planet is coming back soon to take give them resurrection bodies to get ready for the 1000 yrs to reign and rule with Him on earth and throughout the Universe.
Then to enjoy the marriage of the Lamb celebration, and New earth and New heaven that the Godhead has prepared for them and the Godhead= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit will dwell with them forever .... Venus planet, earth will be all burned up and destroy with fire. Former things are all passed away and forgotten from the believers minds. Your belief system is unique Nathan. A jumble of YouTube ideas. Are you the only Nathanism believer? I have to be honest - I kind of like it more than the friends and workers version of reality (standard issue version). I wonder - we don't use actual wine in the states (holdover from prohibition days), but what if "Thor's Hammer" is actually "Thor's Hammered", and The Commander was really into the emblems...
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Post by rational on Jan 28, 2018 21:17:42 GMT -5
not that i believe in valiant thor but look at JFK's assassination we still don't know the true story of what happened and that was almost 70 years ago... What is it that you do not know? Not knowing and claiming that the multiple reports are false are two different things.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 21:49:48 GMT -5
not that i believe in valiant thor but look at JFK's assassination we still don't know the true story of what happened and that was almost 70 years ago... What is it that you do not know? Not knowing and claiming that the multiple reports are false are two different things. well if you know what really happened with JFK assassination please do tell...my point is despite the gov't keeping documents not everything is released to the general public...
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2018 21:57:51 GMT -5
SHORT-FILM ACCOLADES SEE THE STARS OF THE SHORT FILM FILMMAKER CRAIG CAMPOBASSO
Stranger at the Pentagon is inspired by True Events from the book of the same name. It was first published in 1967. It remains a UFO Classic to date.
Craig Campobasso directed, wrote and produced the short-film Stranger at the Pentagon, which was adapted from the popular UFO book authored by the late Dr. Frank E. Stranges. After production, the short film collected accolades. In September 2014, it won Best Sci-Fi film at the Burbank International Film Festival, selling out all 275 seats—a first for the festival. In 2015, it won a Remi Award at the Worldfest Houston International Film Festival for Best Sci-Fi Short. In July 2016, filmmaker Craig Campobasso appeared on The History Channel’s Ancient Aliens. He shared the Stranger at the Pentagon story, about Universal Envoy Valiant Thor, and about his friend and colleague Dr. Frank Stranges. Episode: The Mysterious Nine.
Somehow, nathan , everyone but you gets that the account is science fiction. Is there anything Laura does not believe?The title of the show says it all. There is no indication of a Harley Byrd in the very thoroughly documented family tree. And there is no letter to be examined and verified as authentic. Comic-Con - A comic book convention. Come on nathan . This is what you consider evidence??? hahaha It was a TRUE event but they classified as Science Fiction the Awards for Craig. On his site he said NOT Science Fiction BUT Science FACTS!
We have discussed these things in the past so many times, Rational. Harley Byrd is the grandson of Admiral Byrd.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2018 22:05:35 GMT -5
What is it that you do not know? Not knowing and claiming that the multiple reports are false are two different things. well if you know what really happened with JFK assassination please do tell...my point is despite the gov't keeping documents not everything is released to the general public... The government doesn't tell us the WHOLE Truth all the time..... They LIED so much it's sickening.... They say the Public CAN'T handle the Truth. For an example, for 75 yrs the government said Area51 Did NOT exists.... But we have satellite pictures from private company the existence of Area51 and testimonies of hundreds, thousands of people who worked there.
Then a few years ago, they finally admitted the existence of Area51 is REAL! but NO E.T. in Area51... hahaha... We have testimonies of people who worked in Area51 have worked and seen UFO and E.T. themselves. You can't TRUST the U.S. government too much.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2018 22:21:09 GMT -5
READ Genesis chapter 3:15 God is telling Eve TWO different/DNA sons in her womb after she ate the forbidden fruit/Satan in the Garden of Eden... She had sex with Adam and the Serpent/Satan= Two sons different DNA, Cain and Abel. Cain is a murder like his father, Satan a murder from beginning. Abel is Adam's Son love serving the God with all his heart.
Gen 3:13-16 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
And I will put enmity between thee/Serpent-Satan and the woman, and between thy/Satan seed and her/Adam seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. ~~ Cain KILLED Abel.... Cain's father is Satan. We don't READ Cain and his descendants on Adam lineage because he is NOT his son. Cain and his descendants are of Satan, they have always been here and running the world the demigods/illuminati are the rulers and gods of this earth planet. They were created by Satan with Eve to RULE over Adam's and Eve children that is us.
Nathan, Nathan!
Gen 3:13-16 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
We use a euphemism of having sex with someone as "sleeping" with them which can make a little sense since people are (usually) lying down, Although hardly "sleeping!"
But implying that Eve became pregnant because The serpent "beguiled" her and she "did eat," -did "eat" what? Eat something from the Serpent?
That's FAR OUT, MAN!
Maybe it would help you understand if you studied human reproduction.
~~~ Haha.... Eve committed Adultery (had sex) with the Serpent/Satan in the Garden of Eden. Satan had the same power of God when the Father and the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary= Jesus the Son of Man and God.
In the book of Enoch, the grandfather of Noah wrote about 200 fallen angels came down from heaven and impregnated women of this earth to create the Nephilims. They impregnated with dogs, cats, and all kinds of animals, fish, birds and God was NOT pleased with them and banished them to HELL waiting to be judged by God.
So, they just follow their god Satan example in the Garden of Eden having SEX with Eve to create a Demigods/Illuminati race to RULE over the fallen man/sinners human race population.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 28, 2018 22:35:15 GMT -5
Is it all in the bible. I'm reading the bible again and it clearly says in Genesis chapter 4:1 And Adam Knew Eve his wife' and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. You say that Cain is the son of the devil but clearly the bible says he is Adam's son. READ Genesis chapter 3:15 God is telling Eve TWO different/DNA sons in her womb after she ate the forbidden fruit/Satan in the Garden of Eden... She had sex with Adam and the Serpent/Satan= Two sons different DNA, Cain and Abel. Cain is a murder like his father, Satan a murder from beginning. Abel is Adam's Son love serving the God with all his heart.
Gen 3:13-16 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
And I will put enmity between thee/Serpent-Satan and the woman, and between thy/Satan seed and her/Adam seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. ~~ Cain KILLED Abel.... Cain's father is Satan. We don't READ Cain and his descendants on Adam lineage because he is NOT his son. Cain and his descendants are of Satan, they have always been here and running the world the demigods/illuminati are the rulers and gods of this earth planet. They were created by Satan with Eve to RULE over Adam's and Eve children that is us.
Cain and Abel were two separate pregnancies, Nathan. It is titalation to put out that Eve had sex with Satan. The Bible definitely does not indicate that. The sins that Eve and Adam committed was "disobedience" not adultery.
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Post by nathan on Jan 28, 2018 22:58:13 GMT -5
READ Genesis chapter 3:15 God is telling Eve TWO different/DNA sons in her womb after she ate the forbidden fruit/Satan in the Garden of Eden... She had sex with Adam and the Serpent/Satan= Two sons different DNA, Cain and Abel. Cain is a murder like his father, Satan a murder from beginning. Abel is Adam's Son love serving the God with all his heart.
Gen 3:13-16 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
And I will put enmity between thee/Serpent-Satan and the woman, and between thy/Satan seed and her/Adam seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. ~~ Cain KILLED Abel.... Cain's father is Satan. We don't READ Cain and his descendants on Adam lineage because he is NOT his son. Cain and his descendants are of Satan, they have always been here and running the world the demigods/illuminati are the rulers and gods of this earth planet. They were created by Satan with Eve to RULE over Adam's and Eve children that is us.
Cain and Abel were two separate pregnancies, Nathan. It is titalation to put out that Eve had sex with Satan. The Bible definitely does not indicate that. The sins that Eve and Adam committed was "disobedience" not adultery. Yes, one with Satan/Cain and the other with Adam/Abel... I showed what God, Satan and 200 fallen angels can do.... impregnated women to have children.... Jesus and Cain.. So, it NOT impossible or NOT scriptures.
Jesus, Paul and John teach those who Adultery can NOT enter the kingdom of God... That what Eve committed Adultery in the Garden of Eden.... their sentence was death naturally and spiritually before God... That was why Jesus God/Man had to die for them the second death= Everlasting in the lake of fire.
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