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Post by withlove on Feb 10, 2018 17:27:53 GMT -5
Nathan, I agree with Sharingtheriches...the sex story raises some questions.
Is God the only one with the power to create? Or the devil has limited ability, and his creations are less perfect? Why would God create the angels to have functioning sex organs? Could a powerful angel (satan) add the organs on? In Enoch, doesn't it say that the offending angels were chained up and in torture having to see their hybrid kids drown? So who were the angels who bred after the flood? New recruits from heaven? Or were only some of the fallen angels guilty of breeding?
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 10, 2018 20:16:52 GMT -5
You don't know and understand the Bible or the Scriptures, enuf...
The angels in the heaven don't marry
Matt 22:30 for in the resurrection of the dead, they do not take wives, nor are wives given to husbands; but they are as the angels of god in heaven.
Some people teach that the angels don't marry and therefore, the fallen angels couldn't have the sexual relationship with the daughters of men and took them as wives. They based on their doctrine on Matthew 22:30. When we research this whole subject in the light of the Bible's teaching, so we can see that the Bible teaches that the fallen angels impregnated the daughters of men and they got descendants (Nephilim/the giants).
Matthew 22:30 says, that the angels in the heaven don't marry. The angels in the heaven are obedient and loyal to God, and they don't marry, but the fallen angels had impregnated the daughters of men as the Bible says to us in Genesis 6:4.
www.kotipetripaavola.com/Biblegiants.html Nathan, I was able to follow the paper trail back to WHO was behind this site you just gave us: www.kotipetripaavola.com/Biblegiants.html
Here are the steps I took: www.kotipetripaavola.com/petrienglish.html:
which took me to someone who has a home page called: Petri Paavola's homepage:
Then I checked who was this person called Petri Paavola www.truefreethinker.com/articles/petri-paavola-giants-bible-part-1-4
I end up with a place where one person with his own ideas, Petri Paavola, but who knows no more than you or I do about the subject at hand, "Bible giants," has written books that he sells!
And get this, -he even has the audacity to ask for donations!
You can now purchase my books in paperback & Kindle ebook versions, see here. Petri Paavola on the Giants of the Bible, part 1 of 4
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Post by nathan on Feb 10, 2018 20:28:04 GMT -5
You don't know and understand the Bible or the Scriptures, enuf...
The angels in the heaven don't marry. Matt 22:30 for in the resurrection of the dead, they do not take wives, nor are wives given to husbands; but they are as the angels of god in heaven.
Some people teach that the angels don't marry and therefore, the fallen angels couldn't have the sexual relationship with the daughters of men and took them as wives. They based on their doctrine on Matthew 22:30. When we research this whole subject in the light of the Bible's teaching, so we can see that the Bible teaches that the fallen angels impregnated the daughters of men and they got descendants (Nephilim/the giants).
Matthew 22:30 says, that the angels in the heaven don't marry. The angels in the heaven are obedient and loyal to God, and they don't marry, but the fallen angels had impregnated the daughters of men as the Bible says to us in Genesis 6:4.
www.kotipetripaavola.com/Biblegiants.html Nathan, I was able to follow the paper trail back to WHO was behind this site you just gave us: www.kotipetripaavola.com/Biblegiants.html
Here are the steps I took: www.kotipetripaavola.com/petrienglish.html:
which took me to someone who has a home page called: Petri Paavola's homepage:
Then I checked who was this person called Petri Paavola www.truefreethinker.com/articles/petri-paavola-giants-bible-part-1-4
I end up with a place where one person with his own ideas, Petri Paavola, but who knows no more than you or I do about the subject at hand, "Bible giants," has written books that he sells!
And get this, -he even has the audacity to ask for donations!
You can now purchase my books in paperback & Kindle ebook versions, see here. Petri Paavola on the Giants of the Bible, part 1 of 4
~~ Nathan: He is correct... When he wrote Some people teach that the angels don't marry and therefore, the fallen angels couldn't have the sexual relationship with the daughters of men and took them as wives. They based on their doctrine on Matthew 22:30. When we research this whole subject in the light of the Bible's teaching, so we can see that the Bible teaches that the fallen angels impregnated the daughters of men and they got descendants (Nephilim/the giants).
Matthew 22:30 says, that the angels in the heaven don't marry. The angels in the heaven are obedient and loyal to God, and they don't marry, but the fallen angels had impregnated the daughters of men as the Bible says to us in Genesis 6:4 ~~ God the Father and the Holy Spirit begotten/Impregnated with Mary= Jesus the Son of Man/God. It seemed Satan and the fallen angels have the same power of having sexual relationship with women of this earth to create their own demigods Nephilim and Illuminati children to rule the world of Adam and Eve sinners children.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 10, 2018 20:53:47 GMT -5
Nathan, I was able to follow the paper trail back to WHO was behind this site you just gave us: www.kotipetripaavola.com/Biblegiants.html
Here are the steps I took: www.kotipetripaavola.com/petrienglish.html:
which took me to someone who has a home page called: Petri Paavola's homepage:
Then I checked who was this person called Petri Paavola www.truefreethinker.com/articles/petri-paavola-giants-bible-part-1-4
I end up with a place where one person with his own ideas, Petri Paavola, but who knows no more than you or I do about the subject at hand, "Bible giants," has written books that he sells!
And get this, -he even has the audacity to ask for donations!
You can now purchase my books in paperback & Kindle ebook versions, see here. Petri Paavola on the Giants of the Bible, part 1 of 4
~~ Nathan: He is correct... When he wrote Some people teach that the angels don't marry and therefore, the fallen angels couldn't have the sexual relationship with the daughters of men and took them as wives. They based on their doctrine on Matthew 22:30. When we research this whole subject in the light of the Bible's teaching, so we can see that the Bible teaches that the fallen angels impregnated the daughters of men and they got descendants (Nephilim/the giants).
Matthew 22:30 says, that the angels in the heaven don't marry. The angels in the heaven are obedient and loyal to God, and they don't marry, but the fallen angels had impregnated the daughters of men as the Bible says to us in Genesis 6:4 ~~ God the Father and the Holy Spirit begotten/Impregnated with Mary= Jesus the Son of Man/God. It seemed Satan and the fallen angels have the same power of having sexual relationship with women of this earth to create their own demigods Nephilim and Illuminati children to rule the world.
Well, -Nathan, you can take a chance on that being true if you want but I am not sure how YOUR GOD would feel about your reliance on this person's quasi-biblical information that only resembled but didn't have all the elements straight as 'GOD' had written them in the bible. -
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Post by nathan on Feb 10, 2018 21:05:27 GMT -5
~~ Nathan: He is correct... When he wrote Some people teach that the angels don't marry and therefore, the fallen angels couldn't have the sexual relationship with the daughters of men and took them as wives. They based on their doctrine on Matthew 22:30. When we research this whole subject in the light of the Bible's teaching, so we can see that the Bible teaches that the fallen angels impregnated the daughters of men and they got descendants (Nephilim/the giants).
Matthew 22:30 says, that the angels in the heaven don't marry. The angels in the heaven are obedient and loyal to God, and they don't marry, but the fallen angels had impregnated the daughters of men as the Bible says to us in Genesis 6:4 ~~ God the Father and the Holy Spirit begotten/Impregnated with Mary= Jesus the Son of Man/God. It seemed Satan and the fallen angels have the same power of having sexual relationship with women of this earth to create their own demigods Nephilim and Illuminati children to rule the world.
Well, -Nathan, you can take a chance on that being true if you want but I am not sure how OUR GOD would feel about your reliance on this person's quasi-biblical information that only resembled but didn't have all the elements straight as 'GOD' had written them in the bible.
It's all in the Bible.... Many just don't understand it with their own 21st century minds. ~~ Apostolic fathers teachings about Demons/Giants: (Genesis 6:4) There were Giants on the earth in those days, and also AFTERWARD, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore Children to them. Those were mighty men who were of old, men of renown. ~~ Justin Martyr (160 A.D.) The angels transgressed this appointment and were captived by love of women and they begat Children/Giants, who are called DEMONS.~~ Athenagoras (170 A.D.) These angels, then, who have fallen from heaven, and haunt the air and the earth, and are no longer able to rise to heavenly things, and the souls of the Giants, who are the DEMONS, who wander about the world. Furthermore, certain angels who fell of their own free will, there sprang a more wicked demon brood, condemned of God along with the authors of their race. Their great business is the ruin of mankind. So, from the start, spiritual wickedness sought our destruction. Accordingly, they inflict upon our bodies diseases and other grievous calamities.
~~ Commodianus (248 A.D.) From the seed of the fallen angels and women, Giants are said to have been born. By them, arts were made known in the earth. They taught the dyeing of wool and everything that is done. When they DIED, men erected images to them. Yet, because they were of an evil seed, the Almighty did NOT approve of their being brought back from death when they had died. For that reason, they wander and they now subvert many bodies. And it is these whom the pagans presently worship and pray to as gods.~~ Lactanius (303-313) The Giants who were born from the relations of angels with women were neither angels nor men, but had a MIXED nature---- were NOT admitted into hades when they died. Similarly, their fallen angels fathers had NOT been admitted into heaven, either. Thus there came to be TWO kinds of demons: One of heaven, the other of the earth. The latter are the wicked spirits, who are the authors of all the EVILS that are done. These wicked spirits were the inventors of astrology, soothsaying, divination, those production that are called oracles, the art of magic.
~~ Origen (225 A.D.) Now, of the wicked spirits, there is a two fold mode of operation. Sometimes they take complete and entire possession of the mind, so as NOT to allow their captives the power of either understanding or feeling. For example, this is the case with those who are commonly called "Possessed" whom we see to be deprived of reason. At other times, these evil forces use their wicked suggestions to deprave a conscious and intelligent souls with thoughts of various kinds---- Persuading it to do evil. Judas is an illustration of this.
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Post by nathan on Feb 10, 2018 21:54:30 GMT -5
It's all in the Bible.... Many just don't understand it with their own 21st century minds. ~~ Apostolic fathers teachings about Demons/Giants: (Genesis 6:4) There were Giants on the earth in those days, and also AFTERWARD, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore Children to them. Those were mighty men who were of old, men of renown. ~~ Justin Martyr (160 A.D.) The angels transgressed this appointment and were captived by love of women and they begat Children/Giants, who are called DEMONS.~~ Athenagoras (170 A.D.) These angels, then, who have fallen from heaven, and haunt the air and the earth, and are no longer able to rise to heavenly things, and the souls of the Giants, who are the DEMONS, who wander about the world. Furthermore, certain angels who fell of their own free will, there sprang a more wicked demon brood, condemned of God along with the authors of their race. Their great business is the ruin of mankind. So, from the start, spiritual wickedness sought our destruction. Accordingly, they inflict upon our bodies diseases and other grievous calamities.
~~ Commodianus (248 A.D.) From the seed of the fallen angels and women, Giants are said to have been born. By them, arts were made known in the earth. They taught the dyeing of wool and everything that is done. When they DIED, men erected images to them. Yet, because they were of an evil seed, the Almighty did NOT approve of their being brought back from death when they had died. For that reason, they wander and they now subvert many bodies. And it is these whom the pagans presently worship and pray to as gods.~~ Lactanius (303-313) The Giants who were born from the relations of angels with women were neither angels nor men, but had a MIXED nature---- were NOT admitted into hades when they died. Similarly, their fallen angels fathers had NOT been admitted into heaven, either. Thus there came to be TWO kinds of demons: One of heaven, the other of the earth. The latter are the wicked spirits, who are the authors of all the EVILS that are done. These wicked spirits were the inventors of astrology, soothsaying, divination, those production that are called oracles, the art of magic.
~~ Origen (225 A.D.) Now, of the wicked spirits, there is a two fold mode of operation. Sometimes they take complete and entire possession of the mind, so as NOT to allow their captives the power of either understanding or feeling. For example, this is the case with those who are commonly called "Possessed" whom we see to be deprived of reason. At other times, these evil forces use their wicked suggestions to deprave a conscious and intelligent souls with thoughts of various kinds---- Persuading it to do evil. Judas is an illustration of this.
YOU Nathan, who should really know better, go and trust a guy who doesn't know anymore that any other person!
Well, you are an adult & responsible for your own actions and beliefs.
I just showed you different ones believe the same thing through the years... I have more people and pastors believe the same thing NOT Just Petri Paavola... He just one of thousands.~~ Pastor Chuck Missler on Gen. 6:1-4 Who are the Sons of God= the fallen angels of God that had Sex with the woman creating the Nephilim- the Giants on the earth to rule the world! One world Order/Satanism. www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pastor+chuck+missler+on+Genesis+6%3A1-5
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 10, 2018 22:02:25 GMT -5
YOU Nathan, who should really know better, go and trust a guy who doesn't know anymore that any other person!
Well, you are an adult & responsible for your own actions and beliefs.
I just showed you different ones believe the same thing through the years... I have more people and pastors believe the same thing NOT Just Petri Paavola... He just one of thousands.~~ Pastor Chuck Missler on Gen. 6:1-4 Who are the Sons of God= the fallen angels of God that had Sex with the woman creating the Nephilim- the Giants on the earth to rule the world! One world Order/Satanism. www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pastor+chuck+missler+on+Genesis+6%3A1-5
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Post by Grant on Feb 10, 2018 23:00:53 GMT -5
Chuck Missler appears to be a one man band and pastor of no one. Can you tell me what church he is pastor of, Nathan?
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Post by nathan on Feb 10, 2018 23:34:31 GMT -5
Nathan, I agree with Sharingtheriches...the sex story raises some questions. Is God the only one with the power to create? Yes, the Godhead= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit. God the Father and Christ are the ONLY ONES with the POWER to create according to the scriptures.... I don't know too much about the Holy Spirit but I would NOT be too surprised that He also had power to create because He is part of the Godhead.
Or the devil has limited ability, and his creations are less perfect? Satan is One kingdom below God, so his and 1/3 of the fallen angels creations are much less perfect than the Godhead. Satan can mostly copy God or clone what God had created like Adam and Eve. Why would God create the angels to have functioning sex organs? It seems the Venusians human-looking guardian angels like Valiant, Donn Thor have sex organs to procreate to have children so they and their children can interact with the humans face to face when God sends them to earth and other galaxies in the Universe. Valiant Thor has a wife, and a daughter. They are the guardians angels when they grow up they can be God's ambassadors to interact with the humans face to face without any problem.
Like the two human-looking Venusian angels came down from heaven with Christ and appeared to Abraham in Genesis chapters 18-19. They went to Sodom and Gomorrah to rescue Lot and his family. The human-looking angels appeared and interact with humans in the gospels and the book of Acts.
Could a powerful angel (satan) add the organs on? It seems Satan and the fallen angels had SEX with women and produce the Giants and Illuminati on the earth to rule and lord over the Adam and Eve sinners children. I have read stories of women who were raped by evil Entities, and they could feel things inside of them. Feel fingers pressing and holding them down.
In Enoch, doesn't it say that the offending angels were chained up and in torture having to see their hybrid kids drown? The 200 fallen angels KNEW of God's judgment on their evil deeds and their offspring would be drowned in the great flood in the days of Noah.So who were the angels who bred after the flood? There are millions and millions of fallen angels are on the earth, they followed Satan and their 200 fallen angels brothers in arms of the evil Hybrid Nephilim/giants with the women of this earth AFTER the flood because we read there were 7 different Nephilim/giants races LIVING and occupying when the Children of Israel entered the Promised land. New recruits from heaven? I hope NOT. I believe these are the fallen angels that fought against Michael the arch angel long before Adam and Eve were created 6000 yrs ago.Or were only some of the fallen angels guilty of breeding? Yes, ONLY some were guilty of Hybrid breeding with humans, reptiles, fish, dogs, cats, birds, and all kinds of animals according to Enoch, the grandfather of Noah.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 10, 2018 23:51:25 GMT -5
Well, -Nathan, you can take a chance on that being true if you want but I am not sure how YOUR GOD would feel about your reliance on this person's quasi-biblical information that only resembled but didn't have all the elements straight as 'GOD' had written them in the bible.
It's all in the Bible.... Many just don't understand it with their own 21st century minds. ~~ Apostolic fathers teachings about Demons/Giants: (Genesis 6:4) There were Giants on the earth in those days, and also AFTERWARD, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore Children to them. Those were mighty men who were of old, men of renown. ~~ Justin Martyr (160 A.D.) The angels transgressed this appointment and were captived by love of women and they begat Children/Giants, who are called DEMONS.~~ Athenagoras (170 A.D.) These angels, then, who have fallen from heaven, and haunt the air and the earth, and are no longer able to rise to heavenly things, and the souls of the Giants, who are the DEMONS, who wander about the world. Furthermore, certain angels who fell of their own free will, there sprang a more wicked demon brood, condemned of God along with the authors of their race. Their great business is the ruin of mankind. So, from the start, spiritual wickedness sought our destruction. Accordingly, they inflict upon our bodies diseases and other grievous calamities.
~~ Commodianus (248 A.D.) From the seed of the fallen angels and women, Giants are said to have been born. By them, arts were made known in the earth. They taught the dyeing of wool and everything that is done. When they DIED, men erected images to them. Yet, because they were of an evil seed, the Almighty did NOT approve of their being brought back from death when they had died. For that reason, they wander and they now subvert many bodies. And it is these whom the pagans presently worship and pray to as gods.~~ Lactanius (303-313) The Giants who were born from the relations of angels with women were neither angels nor men, but had a MIXED nature---- were NOT admitted into hades when they died. Similarly, their fallen angels fathers had NOT been admitted into heaven, either. Thus there came to be TWO kinds of demons: One of heaven, the other of the earth. The latter are the wicked spirits, who are the authors of all the EVILS that are done. These wicked spirits were the inventors of astrology, soothsaying, divination, those production that are called oracles, the art of magic.
~~ Origen (225 A.D.) Now, of the wicked spirits, there is a two fold mode of operation. Sometimes they take complete and entire possession of the mind, so as NOT to allow their captives the power of either understanding or feeling. For example, this is the case with those who are commonly called "Possessed" whom we see to be deprived of reason. At other times, these evil forces use their wicked suggestions to deprave a conscious and intelligent souls with thoughts of various kinds---- Persuading it to do evil. Judas is an illustration of this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 0:05:13 GMT -5
It doesn't surprise me that the Giants are the spawn of fallen angels - they're terrible lately.
I think that Gabriel himself conceived Tom Brady though...
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 11, 2018 0:38:05 GMT -5
Chuck Missler appears to be a one man band and pastor of no one. Can you tell me what church he is pastor of, Nathan? I think that you may be right about that, enuf.
Here are a few things about him that doesn't appear very ethical to say the least!
He seems to have left a trail of "problems" behind him. Charles W. "Chuck" Missler (born 1934[1]) is an author, evangelical Christian, Bible teacher, engineer, and former businessman. He is the founder of the Koinonia House ministry based in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Missler joined Western Digital as chairman and chief executive in June 1977, and became the largest shareholder of Western Digital.[4] In a 1984 interview, Western Digital's then chairman, Roger Johnson, described the company under Missler as having a good reputation for technology with a terrible reputation for execution, and seriously undercapitalized.[5 ] In 1983 Missler became the chairman and chief executive of Helionetics, Inc., another technology company.[4] He left Helionetics in 1984 "to pursue other opportunities in the high-technology field".[6] In August 1985 Helionetics sued Missler, alleging a conflict of interest, claiming that after Missler and other Helionetics executives had decided not to purchase a small defense electronics maker, that same company was purchased by an investment corporation in which Missler held a controlling interest.[7] T he suit was settled when Missler's firm agreed to pay Helionetics $1.6 million.[8] In 1989 he headed up the Phoenix Group International, a former Colorado real estate company that entered the high-tech industry to sell personal computers to Russian schools.[5] Phoenix filed for bankruptcy protection in 1990 when the deal did not develop as anticipated.[9] After teaching for many years at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, Missler moved to Coeur d'Alene in 1992 and founded Koinonia House. Through this organization, Missler distributes a monthly newsletter and Bible study tapes, hosts a radio show, and speaks at conferences.[10] He has also been involved in efforts to use computers to decipher what he considers coded messages contained in the Bible.[5] Missler is a prominent speaker on the subject of bible prophecy.[11] Missler has had numerous programs aired on the Christian television station GOD TV, namely the DVD versions of his biblical studies "Learn the Bible in 24 Hours", "The Book of Revelation", "The Book of Genesis", and "The Book of Daniel".[citation needed] Money coming in there right & left!Missler has also written the foreword to Exo-Vaticana, a book that uses evidence to draw attention to the Vatican and its practices. The book loosely presents the possibility that the Vatican is communicating with extraterrestrial life.[12] Controversy A Los Angeles Times article reported that Missler and co-author Hal Lindsey had plagiarized a portion of Miami University Professor Edwin Yamauchi's 1982 book Foes From the Northern Frontier in their own 1992 book The Magog Factor.[13]
After the plagiarism was acknowledged[clarification needed], book shipments to bookstores were discontinued and all of the authors' proceeds donated to a ministry.[14] Missler has also been accused of plagiarism of New Age writer Michael Talbot's 1992 book The Holographic Universe in his 1999 book Cosmic Codes: Messages from the Edge of Eternity.[15] Missler has also acknowledged this plagiarism and has since publicly apologized. He said a correction would be inserted in all unsold copies and the book itself updated in subsequent printings. Missler has donated all of the author's proceeds from the book to a ministry.[16] [17] The letter is no longer available at the cited link. Combining his experience with technology and his fascination with Bible prophesy, Missler was also outspoken in predicting that the "Year Two Thousand Bug" (a.k.a. "Y2K bug") would become key to the beginning of the apocalypse beginning on January 1, 2000.[18] Remember that one? In 1998 he coauthored a book with John Ankerberg investigating whether America would survive the crises to be caused, he claimed, by embedded computer chips that would malfunction on what they would calculate as year zero.[19] Also remember this one? Hank Hanegraf of Christian Research Institute called the reasoning in Missler's video series "subtly deceptive" and "sophistry".[20] S0 it seems that "Chuck" Missler appears to have set upon a good method on how one can use chicanery to trick & deceive people and make a VERY good living in the process! Why am I not surprised?
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Post by nathan on Feb 11, 2018 0:45:33 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 11, 2018 1:28:38 GMT -5
Obviously Nathan, -it doesn't matter to you how unethical such a unprincipled, dishonorable scoundrel is, -just as long as they supply you with fodder for your theories, you will listen to their lies.
Don't you realize how that reflects on your own integrity?
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Post by nathan on Feb 11, 2018 2:11:52 GMT -5
There are two sides to every story. He is human and he makes mistakes like all of us do. I have listened to many of Chuck sermons and he is quite a good teacher and he KNOWS what he's talking about on many subjects.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 11, 2018 5:16:53 GMT -5
There are two sides to every story. He is human and he makes mistakes like all of us do. I have listened to many of Chuck sermons and he is quite a good teacher and he KNOWS what he's talking about on many subjects.
He's a scoundrel and a liar but smart enough to take in a bunch of credulous, gullible people like yourself who are only too willing to believe what you are told.
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Post by nathan on Feb 11, 2018 11:24:17 GMT -5
There are two sides to every story. He is human and he makes mistakes like all of us do. I have listened to many of Chuck sermons and he is quite a good teacher and he KNOWS what he's talking about on many subjects.
He's a scoundrel and a liar but smart enough to take in a bunch of credulous, gullible people like yourself who are only too willing to believe what you are told. The Pharisees called Jesus many names, like a blasphemer, a liar, a child out of wedlock, and so on. Have you listened to the two of of Chuck S. videos I posted? Let me know which part you disagree with, OK.
Genesis 6:1-4 200 fallen angels had SEX with the women to create their own hybrid race of giants to destroy mankind so God had to eliminate them on the earth with a world wide flood.
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pastor+chuck+missler+on+Genesis+6%3A1-5
~~ Chuck Missler Return Of The Nephilim, UFO's, Aliens & Bible. History of UFOs, evidences, Awesome, a must listen. Both angels are among us the good angels and the fallen angels.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=skSTzkmOeQw
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