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Post by learning on Dec 7, 2016 8:28:32 GMT -5
From what I can see, Cherie presents facts as she sees them without the snarky attitude that your posts are plastered with. Based on the attitude communicated in your respective posts, I would rather spend time with her than with you, which says a lot if you are a 'member' claiming to be on the right side of things. You just might get your wish. If you keep bringing a bad spirit to convention and speaking evil of the servants of God, an eternity with all the distinguished enemies of the Truth may be in store. I am very thankful that for the most part the friends and workers in my area have an attitude and spirit about them that bears little resemblance to the attitude and spirit that you bring to this forum. If you were in fact a true and thorough representation of the fellowship in my area than I would make my graceful exit in two seconds flat.
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Post by 4dtruth on Dec 7, 2016 10:04:07 GMT -5
I have been advised today by a Sri Lankan and given permission to post that: Peter Morrison is very upset that the Workers may not get their visas renewed. He told the Friend he suspects is responsible for this: "You have still not seen me fully angry. You have joined the crows and will be shot down with the crows." I'm interested in Peter Morrison's "crow" statement, particularly given its from an Australian worker and a Queenslander to boot. The term "crows" does not appear in the Bible. We know crows are related to ravens (same genus) and Jesus indicated in Luke 12 that God feeds/looks after ravens. However, the tone and context of Peter Morrison's comment reveals something more dangerous and sinister. It highly likely that he's referring to the crow as a symbol of death - particularly black crows. The poetic term for a bunch of crows is "a murder". Translated, it seems that Peter Morrison is saying: "You have joined the ranks of the dead or the murderers....and you will be shot down with all the other murderers"Wow Ross. That was quite a display of contortionism. As I mentioned previously, this thread is becoming a very revealing tutorial on Ex propaganda efforts. I suspect that most reputable researchers would quickly recognize the similarity between Peter Morrison's alleged quote and a very common idiom in some parts of the English-speaking world. "If you fly with the crows, you get shot with the crows".
The meaning is interpreted as: "If you wish to be associated with a particular high risk and/or high profile situation and benefit from the rewards of that association, you have to accept the consequences if things go wrong - you cannot dissociate yourself." Standard sources include nothing about death threats, or murderers or satanism. Most likely crows are simply regarded as pests by farmers. www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/if+you+fly+with+the+crows+you+get+shot+with+the+crows.htmlGiven the similarity noted above, it would be reasonable to question of what Cherie Kropp reported: 1) Did Peter really state something different from the standard idiom? 2) Did the other individual in the conversation distort what he said? 3) Did his words get altered intentionally or unintentionally by someone else passing along or reporting this on TMB? Typically, you would try to gain some insight by examining the broader context of the discussion. But I'm not optimistic that this will happen here... Your insistence on full context for quotes is not practical...and does not have a precedent in the Bible.
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Post by CherieKropp on Dec 7, 2016 10:08:14 GMT -5
I have been requested to post the following account regarding the “Indian young lady,” who is actually a native of Sri Lanka. This was first discussed on TMB thread: Aussie worker Peter Morrison
Thelma Galbraith and Jocelyn Dippie visited the young lady (she is actually not Indian but Sri Lankan ) before she married. Thelma told her if she married, she would have to sit in meetings 3 to 6 months maximum without communion or taking part. Her Buddhist husband-to-be had been attending meetings with her and he offered to attend all meetings that she attended and to raise any children as Christians. However, every time in meeting (held in the home of her Grandparents) when they passed the communion past her Granddaughter and her husband, it sorely grieved her 88 year old Grandmother. After one month, the Grandmother began asking Peter when was her Granddaughter going to be allowed to take communion again? Every time she saw Peter, she was in agony over the grand daughter's plight and asked him this question repeatedly from month #1 on. Finally, after 8 months, she repeated the question, in the presence of his companion Benjamin Minnaar (“Benny”) and the Grandfather, who is the elder of the church. In the same room where the fellowship meeting takes place, Peter stood in front of the chair where the Grandmother was sitting, turned his back to her, and bent down at the waist and pointed at his buttocks, and said, "If you’re angry with me, give me a kick on my backside." The next day, Peter summoned to his house, Grandfather, who had been an elder for over 40 years, Peter told him, “If I want to, I can remove your eldership.” The Grandfather asked, “On what grounds? You are the one who showed your buttocks to my elderly wife." Peter replied, "I only showed half my buttocks to her as a joke" Peter visited the young lady's parents’ home and had a discussion with the Grandfather and Father. He complained about the post on facebook. The Father told him that he would ask the daughter to post a follow up note saying that Peter apologized to the Grandmother--if he was willing to apologize. Peter agreed to do so and went to the Grandmother's house located next door. The Father persuaded the daughter to post the follow up below--which she did. They thought that all's well that ends well. I am very happy to bring to your attention that our Senior Worker in Sri Lanka Peter Morrison has met my 88 years old Grandmother and Grandfather who is the Elder of the Church, concerning the incident that took place between them over my communion. Peter regrets that such a thing happened, although he is personally convinced that he asked her to kick him on the back as part of humor. Since he regrets, I will not hold it against him, however much it is offensive.
However, not so for Peter... The next Sunday, the young couple sat at the fellowship meeting as usual and the communion was passed over them. After the meeting, Peter walked to their home (also located close by). He rang the door bell. The Buddhist Husband answered. "Please tell your wife that she should not attend meetings any more" declared Peter to the husband. The poor husband was paralyzed with shock as Peter strutted away. The young lady later on telephoned Peter. She asked him why he had ordered her not to come for meetings. Peter in his usual bullying style referred to the sin she had committed by posting her story on the face book. The conversation took place in the home of her parents in the presence of the parents and husband. She put the phone on speaker. So the ugly and heated words uttered by this false prophet were overheard by all. Later on it was revealed that the apology that Peter promised to make to the Grandmother had never taken place. He had lied as usual. When he met the Grandmother he had just grunted some words about the face book and the Granddaughter. The Father, not referring to the Grandmother for verification, kept his side of the bargain. The post was rectified. Peter, on the other hand, took revenge and excommunicated her and also forbade the innocent Buddhist husband from attending any meetings again. "If a Buddhist priest acted like this, the believers in the temple would assault him and chase him out of the temple!” exclaimed the husband. "Peter Morrison's conduct cannot be understood by human beings, let alone us Sri Lankans" , the wife replied, who is now excommunicated.
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Post by Grant on Dec 7, 2016 11:21:25 GMT -5
Seems obvious why the group is in decline. Seems as if not many in meetings such as Nathan and 4dtruth are concerned about the decline because of workers behaviour but are more concerned when the truth gets out via the Internet and websites.
I don't see Cherie and others as enemies of the truth, I see them as tellers of the truth.
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Post by CherieKropp on Dec 7, 2016 11:44:21 GMT -5
I suspect that most reputable researchers would quickly recognize the similarity between Peter Morrison's alleged quote and a very common idiom in some parts of the English-speaking world. "If you fly with the crows, you get shot with the crows".
The meaning is interpreted as: "If you wish to be associated with a particular high risk and/or high profile situation and benefit from the rewards of that association, you have to accept the consequences if things go wrong - you cannot dissociate yourself." Standard sources include nothing about death threats, or murderers or satanism. Most likely crows are simply regarded as pests by farmers. www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/if+you+fly+with+the+crows+you+get+shot+with+the+crows.htmlGiven the similarity noted above, it would be reasonable to question of what Cherie Kropp reported: 1) Did Peter really state something different from the standard idiom? 2) Did the other individual in the conversation distort what he said? 3) Did his words get altered intentionally or unintentionally by someone else passing along or reporting this on TMB? <abbr title="Dec 5, 2016 9:17:45 GMT -6" data-timestamp="1480951065000" class="o-timestamp time"></abbr>From my source: Regarding the crow business, although Peter's first language is English, he is very rough and not educated. He claimed that he worked in a pineapple plantation before he went into the work. There is a strong possibility that he got the English idiom mixed up. There is also a possibility that person being addressed did not accurately grasp what he said. Whatever may have happened, Peter meant it as threat to the hearer.
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Post by Admin on Dec 7, 2016 14:46:15 GMT -5
its pretty clear paul got it wrong on this one for example verse three: For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. this has been proven wrong in many many cases even today we see it is wrong.... however if you interpret it to mean the workers/apostles/bishops/deacons it would be more acceptable even still things happen that are wrong.... I appreciate the example set in Acts Chapter 5, as it is the most applicable to a situation like this. "And when they called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name. And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ. As Peter and other apostles said earlier in the chapter, "We ought to obey God rather than men". Pretty clear! I am confused. Have the Sri Lankan authorities forbidden the preaching of Jesus, crucified risen Lord? If so, you are entirely correct about who is the higher authority. Or is this a case of visa anomalies, which according to scripture (Ro13) seems to be rebellion against natural authorities established (or at least allowed) by God? Which ultimately comes down to rebellion against our God himself - never profitable. God allows hardships even in carrying the gospel message. We so often don't know the mind of God, although being humans our tendency is to presume we do know and understand it. So often the persecuted church is the stronger church. Whatever motives are attributed to the posters here, it does seem to be a messy situation just now in Sri Lanka. I would personally like to see attitudes of humbling ourselves, prayerfully and in full trust, before almighty God. And loads of grace and the love of Jesus for those in our church who are clearly hurting right now. Thanks too for the empowering reminder - "rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame" for the name of Jesus! Let it be so. admin
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 15:45:57 GMT -5
Wow Ross. That was quite a display of contortionism. As I mentioned previously, this thread is becoming a very revealing tutorial on Ex propaganda efforts. I suspect that most reputable researchers would quickly recognize the similarity between Peter Morrison's alleged quote and a very common idiom in some parts of the English-speaking world. "If you fly with the crows, you get shot with the crows".
The meaning is interpreted as: "If you wish to be associated with a particular high risk and/or high profile situation and benefit from the rewards of that association, you have to accept the consequences if things go wrong - you cannot dissociate yourself." Standard sources include nothing about death threats, or murderers or satanism. Most likely crows are simply regarded as pests by farmers. www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/if+you+fly+with+the+crows+you+get+shot+with+the+crows.htmlGiven the similarity noted above, it would be reasonable to question of what Cherie Kropp reported: 1) Did Peter really state something different from the standard idiom? 2) Did the other individual in the conversation distort what he said? 3) Did his words get altered intentionally or unintentionally by someone else passing along or reporting this on TMB? Typically, you would try to gain some insight by examining the broader context of the discussion. But I'm not optimistic that this will happen here... Thank you. I am very aware of the standard expression. I am also aware of the expression you used of ex-members that they are tumours or warts that need to be excised.Peter Morrison's comments were meant to threaten the person, just as your comments on this thread re tumours, warts, 30 pieces of silver, lost eternity etc are also meant to threaten people concerning their eternal security which Peter M or yourself have nothing to do with. I repeat - nothing to do with. To ex-members they have zero impact because we know "the type" and we have seen it time and time again. This type of spiritual bullying from some senior workers, whether they be from Australia, New Zealand or wherever just makes ex-members more determined to publicly expose it and call it out for what it is. "By their fruit you will know them" or "By their fruit you will recognise them" - the words of Jesus in Matthew 7:16 My goodness me, Noels said that?? Surely he was misheard? I know for a fact that Noels was doing a study of Matthew 24.6 concerning the 'wars and rumours of wars' and was keen to see these things through an 'Ex eyes!' Surely to goodness, he was misheard?
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Post by friendly67 on Dec 7, 2016 15:47:02 GMT -5
Regarding the crow business, although Peter's first language is English, he is very rough and not educated. He claimed that he worked in a pineapple plantation before he went into the work. There is a strong possibility that he got the English idiom mixed up. There is also a possibility that person being addressed did not accurately grasp what he said. Whatever may have happened, Peter meant it as threat to the hearer.
Cherie, this surprises me. Whatever Peter's character faults, he came from a family who were anything but backward and uneducated. Not sure if any of them went to university, but his mother was very eloquent, and his brothers are very successful businessmen. He grew up on a farm very close to Brisbane.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 15:52:40 GMT -5
Regarding the crow business, although Peter's first language is English, he is very rough and not educated. He claimed that he worked in a pineapple plantation before he went into the work. There is a strong possibility that he got the English idiom mixed up. There is also a possibility that person being addressed did not accurately grasp what he said. Whatever may have happened, Peter meant it as threat to the hearer. Cherie, this surprises me. Whatever Peter's character faults, he came from a family who were anything but backward and uneducated. Not sure if any of them went to university, but his mother was very eloquent, and his brothers are very successful businessmen. He grew up on a farm very close to Brisbane. You did look at the Crow article and notice that it said crows were one of the most intelligent creatures after man? Clearly PM understood what he meant by 'crows!'
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Post by friendly67 on Dec 7, 2016 15:53:37 GMT -5
A Worker who is on a home visit from Sri Lanka does have a return visa. That was all sorted early this year.
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Post by CherieKropp on Dec 7, 2016 16:46:29 GMT -5
Regarding the crow business, although Peter's first language is English, he is very rough and not educated. He claimed that he worked in a pineapple plantation before he went into the work. There is a strong possibility that he got the English idiom mixed up. There is also a possibility that person being addressed did not accurately grasp what he said. Whatever may have happened, Peter meant it as threat to the hearer. Cherie, this surprises me. Whatever Peter's character faults, he came from a family who were anything but backward and uneducated. Not sure if any of them went to university, but his mother was very eloquent, and his brothers are very successful businessmen. He grew up on a farm very close to Brisbane. I was quoting my source and should have stated so. I have edited my earlier post. Thanks for the additional information.
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Post by gustaf on Dec 7, 2016 18:37:00 GMT -5
I have seen the results of Cherie K. TTT website and others have done to our fellowship since 1990s. I have seen the results of many friends who starting out on TMB as professing then, they became hardcore exes and some atheists.
Clearday wrote in 2011: Here is a summary of the trend of Worker Fields in the US over the last 11 years:
1998-9 334 Active fields 2010-11 269 Active fields
Decline 65 Fields or 19.5% decline
Overseer territories showing increases 2 Overseer territories showing no change 4 Overseer territories showing decreases 26 Total 32
Notes: The above comparison reflects domestic US fields and excludes workers who have gone to foreign fields. The number of workers active in the US can be reasonably approximated by doubling the above numbers. This comparison included fields for which one person was assigned as well as fields for which 3 persons were assigned and they would be close to balancing each other. Inactive workers were also excluded from this analysis. Source: Workers' Lists
Scott wrote: From clearday saying that 30%-40% have left meetings in the last ten years, and then basing that on 100,000 people. (I do not know how many f&w's there are in the US) A real eye opener there is when you actually put numbers to the percentages. IF there were 100,000 people , then between 30,000 and 40,000 people quit going to meetings in the last ten years.
Quizzer wrote: I believe that the websites about the history and abuses of the 2x2s has considerably reduced the 2x2s. I grew up under a spiritual killing, so I spent much of my time avoiding the friends. When the spiritual killing was removed, I was really stunned to truly evaluate the friends. They did not seem to be middle-class America. I really feel that the Secret Sect, and all the succeeding investigations, was eye-opening to the portion of 2x2s who left. Thinking that, if someone as disconnected as I could finally find the websites, that there have been many discussing this issue in private.
Just my thoughts, quizzer
Gjohnson wrote: I enjoy seeing these numbers drop... hopefully this cult will completely disappear relatively soon.
Clearday wrote: gjohnson shouldn't get too gleeful too soon. The F&Ws will be around longer than our lifetimes. Everything has its trends, and trends never go in straight lines. Long term upward trends lead to exuberance and mistakes which initiate downward trends. Downward trends expose errors, begins self-examination and initiates movements of error cessation before forming a plateau. Something new, such as a revival or fresh perspective will initiate a new upward trend. We are in the stage of the downward trend in which errors are being exposed and self examination has begun. I expect we will trend downward for a few years yet. Perhaps a solid plateau will form by the end of the upcoming decade. If a new vision hasn't emerged by then, the plateau will become another slow moving downward trend. There has to be something to spark new interest......a new relevancy of some sort. That's what my crystal ball says today.
------------------------------------------------ GUSTAF SAYS ------------------------------------------------ The workers crop speaks for itself - fruitless, baron fields year after year, dead soil, drought, famine - their "methods" and "Workers Gospel" have created a bleak future for their fields...
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Post by gustaf on Dec 9, 2016 17:15:44 GMT -5
------------------------------------------------ GUSTAF SAYS ------------------------------------------------ The workers crop speaks for itself - fruitless, baron fields year after year, dead soil, drought, famine - their "methods" and "Workers Gospel" have created a bleak future for their fields... The Holy Spirit purifies the ministry and the assembly of believers constantly... To get the Bride of Christ ready for His returns.... Remember the 5 Wise virgin and 5 foolish virgins parable? The 5 wise went in to celebrate the wedding feast when the 5 foolish running around outside the gate looking for the Oil to fill their lamps. This is God's Church NOT the workers, He does the pruning, cutting the dead branches from the tree so the tree bears more fruits. New fruits will come forth, after the dead branches are cutting off the branches.Were the Pharisee's fruitful? They sure thought so! Jesus said they were what?
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Post by gustaf on Dec 10, 2016 14:38:51 GMT -5
Were the Pharisee's fruitful? They sure thought so! Jesus said they were what?
Which church do you know do NOT have Pharisees in their churches?First of all... Since when do the Workers acknowledge other Christian churches as part of Christiandom? Why would they compare themselves to something false? Their Gospel is "Follow us or die sinner" Yeah, your good enough for Jesus, but not good enough for us ! No Baptism for You ! (Ya gotta earn here in this church) If they had any more practical advise for there flock just imagine how awesome that would be! True TEACHERS - WOW - empowered with the Holy Ghost But they act like a bunch of Methodist... This is the way ....(to nowhere folks)
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Post by gustaf on Dec 10, 2016 18:39:47 GMT -5
First of all... Since when do the Workers acknowledge other Christian churches as part of Christiandom? Why would they compare themselves to something false? Their Gospel is "Follow us or die sinner" Yeah, your good enough for Jesus, but not good enough for us ! No Baptism for You ! (Ya gotta earn here in this church) If they had any more practical advise for there flock just imagine how awesome that would be! True TEACHERS - WOW - empowered with the Holy Ghost But they act like a bunch of Methodist... This is the way ....(to nowhere folks)
2x2 like Methodist... hmmmmmmmm..... Does the Methodist preachers go out 2 and 2? Do their preachers live in the homes of their followers? Don't the Methodist preachers have to attend the seminar college to become preacher?.... I don't believe the Methodists and 2x2 have much in common.... I hope this is the kind of Methodist you are thinking of. Bye gustaf, I hope this is my last post to you. Thank you for making my point Nathan - They have a "method" and the workers have a "method". So you just go on and mock the "Methodist"... I make you weary?
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Post by gustaf on Dec 10, 2016 19:16:22 GMT -5
Thank you for making my point Nathan - They have a "method" and the workers have a "method". So you just go on and mock the "Methodist"... I make you weary?
Bye gustaf... have fun with your "Methodist" game.... playing by yourself.So long Nathan - try and enjoy your Friends and Workers game too! (you can all play together of course, help keep each other in the dark)
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Post by CherieKropp on Dec 10, 2016 19:16:25 GMT -5
I remind TMB members of the rules of the board - stick to the topic, posts off-topic may be removed by the admin team. Thank you, admin Nate, et al - it would be wise to remember the above warning. You're way off topic...
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Post by jondough on Dec 11, 2016 0:47:35 GMT -5
Websters:
What is the Correct Use of et al.? There is a good deal of confusion surrounding et al., as is commonly the case with abbreviated Latin words (such as ibid., etc., and i.e.).
Et al. comes from the Latin phrase meaning “and others.” It is usually styled with a period, but you will occasionally see et al as well.
Et al. typically stands in for two or more names, especially in bibliographical information. It's preceded by a comma only when more than one name is listed
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Post by openingact34 on Dec 11, 2016 1:42:55 GMT -5
I have been requested to post the following account regarding the “Indian young lady,” who is actually a native of Sri Lanka. This was first discussed on TMB thread: Aussie worker Peter Morrison
Thelma Galbraith and Jocelyn Dippie visited the young lady (she is actually not Indian but Sri Lankan ) before she married. Thelma told her if she married, she would have to sit in meetings 3 to 6 months maximum without communion or taking part. Her Buddhist husband-to-be had been attending meetings with her and he offered to attend all meetings that she attended and to raise any children as Christians. Are we talking about the same Thelma Galbraith who also initiated the tsunami of excommunications in Alberta circa 1999? www.thelyingtruth.info/?f=exc&id=alberta
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Post by CherieKropp on Dec 11, 2016 11:55:27 GMT -5
I have been requested to post the following account regarding the “Indian young lady,” who is actually a native of Sri Lanka. This was first discussed on TMB thread: Aussie worker Peter Morrison
Thelma Galbraith and Jocelyn Dippie visited the young lady (she is actually not Indian but Sri Lankan ) before she married. Thelma told her if she married, she would have to sit in meetings 3 to 6 months maximum without communion or taking part. Her Buddhist husband-to-be had been attending meetings with her and he offered to attend all meetings that she attended and to raise any children as Christians. Are we talking about the same Thelma Galbraith who also initiated the tsunami of excommunications in Alberta circa 1999? www.thelyingtruth.info/?f=exc&id=albertaYes. One and the same. I understand she was a very pleasant sister worker while in Sri Lanka. No idea when she came or left. Jocelyn Dippie is a widow in the work from Australia New Zealand.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 11, 2016 11:59:17 GMT -5
Jocelyn is from New Zealand. Original name was Flowerday and was brought up near Nelson.
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Post by CherieKropp on Dec 11, 2016 12:03:13 GMT -5
Jocelyn is from New Zealand. Original name was Flowerday and was brought up near Nelson. I stand corrected. Thank you for pointing that out. I have edited my post accordingly.
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Post by fixit on Dec 11, 2016 14:45:38 GMT -5
It must be as hard for John Blair and Ernie Dohrman to watch their life's work in Sri Lanka being systematically destroyed...
As it is for Chau and Hoa in Vietnam.
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Post by CherieKropp on Dec 12, 2016 9:28:54 GMT -5
I have been given the following to post re: Nugegoda, Sri Lanka Convention Grounds
The "Melder House" is located adjoining the former convention grounds in Nugegoda, Sri Lanka. The house was owned by a professing couple, Carmen and George Melder.
When Carmen died, she left the house and garden in a Trust for use of elderly and retired workers and other workers. Trustees were appointed by John Blair. The Trust is governed under the laws of Sri Lanka.
One of the remaining Trustees is Andrew (John Blair’s nephew), a professing man in New Zealand. Others in the Blair family there have been lavishly helping the work in Sri Lanka for many years.
Carmen Melder's brother, who was not professing, owned the convention ground. Meetings were held in tents. Muni a professing friend lived on the premises and served as caretaker. He also functioned as the chief cook for convention and cooked all meals for workers during preps.
The brother workers live in a house also close to the grounds. This too is owned by the Trust.
Cyrus Ferdinandus, an ex-worker and his family live opposite the brother workers’ house.
Subsequently when Carmen's brother wanted to sell the convention ground about 15 years ago, Lionel Silva purchased it and dedicated it to the convention. He even built a nice structure on the grounds where visitors stayed during convention and also special meetings took place.
When Peter Morrison took over from John Blair, 3 years ago, in spite of the grounds and all facilities including Muni as caretaker and cook, remaining for their use for convention, they decided to move the convention to new premises which are hired out. They have to pay for all the facilities and food.
Instead of telling the true reason for the shift, Peter and his cohorts spread a false story that Lionel Silva ordered them to relocate as he wanted to sell the premises.
When Lionel Silva heard this, he was very upset and confronted Peter. Subsequently, Lionel got Peter to write a letter to him giving the real reason for the shift was that the workers felt that they had too much work, maintaining and running the grounds for convention. In the letter he also got Peter to certify that Lionel had never ever asked them to relocate the conv. Lionel posted copies of this letter to all the professing friends in Sri Lanka. Peter wrote the letter on Undenominational Christian Mission letterhead.
John Blair and Mary David continue to live in the Melder house. Both are very feeble. Mary is a heart patient and John in the late stages of bowel cancer. There is a lady carer who looks after Mary and Muni, the former caretaker of the convention grounds, looks after John.
On the 2016 Workers List, Mary David is shown as resting. John Blair's name isnt listed. He has been in the work in Sri Lanka for over 60 years, much of the time the Overseer there. He wants to die there and not return to his native country NZ. Doctors have given him 6 mos. to a year to live.
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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2016 16:35:44 GMT -5
John Blair and Mary David continue to live in the Melder house. Both are very feeble. Mary is a heart patient and John in the late stages of bowel cancer. There is a lady carer who looks after Mary and Muni, the former caretaker of the convention grounds, looks after John. Somebody in Sri Lanka, please pass on greetings in Christ to John and Mary. We do not forget their efforts for the gospel, and as somebody reminded us, we rejoice with them that they are counted worthy to suffer for the name of Christ. Also please thank Muni and the lady carer for their faithful service. admin
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Post by speak on Dec 13, 2016 2:00:55 GMT -5
Regarding the crow business, although Peter's first language is English, he is very rough and not educated. He claimed that he worked in a pineapple plantation before he went into the work. There is a strong possibility that he got the English idiom mixed up. There is also a possibility that person being addressed did not accurately grasp what he said. Whatever may have happened, Peter meant it as threat to the hearer. Cherie, this surprises me. Whatever Peter's character faults, he came from a family who were anything but backward and uneducated. Not sure if any of them went to university, but his mother was very eloquent, and his brothers are very successful businessmen. He grew up on a farm very close to Brisbane. You did look at the Crow article and notice that it said crows were one of the most intelligent creatures after man? Clearly PM understood what he meant by 'crows!' Look up on youtube about the Kea a NZ native mountain parrot, very interesting what they can do and get up to.
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Post by sauerkraut on Jan 23, 2017 0:56:55 GMT -5
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