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Post by maryhig on Jun 5, 2015 5:22:03 GMT -5
That is right Maryhig, but what I was meaning was it does not mean just the 2x2 workers ! No I believe it's not just the 2x2 workers but it does include them if they are living it, my uncle did the works of God, as do others I know within our meeting You'll know if their a true worker by their life and they will be strong in God! James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
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Post by withlove on Jun 5, 2015 7:58:36 GMT -5
That is right Maryhig, but what I was meaning was it does not mean just the 2x2 workers ! No I believe it's not just the 2x2 workers but it does include them if they are living it, my uncle did the works of God, as do others I know within our meeting You'll know if their a true worker by their life and they will be strong in God! James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Maryhig, I really appreciate what you contribute to the boards...it is sweet to see your sincerity come through your posts and also interesting to learn about your group. You have a unique position of being a bit neutral and innocent in that you haven't experienced being a 2x2 and so your perspective is a nice addition! Just wanted to say that, and might as well now. Do people in your group call your Uncle and those who were like him earlier on, workers?
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Post by maryhig on Jun 5, 2015 8:13:18 GMT -5
No I believe it's not just the 2x2 workers but it does include them if they are living it, my uncle did the works of God, as do others I know within our meeting You'll know if their a true worker by their life and they will be strong in God! James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Maryhig, I really appreciate what you contribute to the boards...it is sweet to see your sincerity come through your posts and also interesting to learn about your group. You have a unique position of being a bit neutral and innocent in that you haven't experienced being a 2x2 and so your perspective is a nice addition! Just wanted to say that, and might as well now. Do people in your group call your Uncle and those who were like him earlier on, workers? Hiya withlove, thank you, but I've just gone very red. I don't see myself like that. No we don't call anyone workers, we are all just servants, but some are stronger in God than others, so we know who are elders. They prefer not to take any title. And just do Gods work!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 8:43:09 GMT -5
Review, I do not claim to be a servant of God. I am just a struggling soul who has not always shown wisdom and kindness in my post. I have tried to apology when I have been wrong. Humility is one of the most wonderful qualities of a servant of God.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 23:19:14 GMT -5
so true so true Didn't you agree with this Virgo ? why wouldn't i agree with what I posted?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 5, 2015 23:37:18 GMT -5
Well that means not just "the workers" ! if you say so
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 2:35:55 GMT -5
so how does that say that i posted Well that means not just "the workers" !
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 6, 2015 3:09:40 GMT -5
Wilson McClung Peter speaks of a very important thing that must be in the life of the servant of God--it must be there. 1 Peter 1:10-12. There is no gospel preached, and there is no soul saved, and there is no extension of the Kingdom of God apart from the preacher preaching the Gospel by the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven...The most important people in all the world today to God are His servants... so true so true Virgo you agreed with this statement, no one is more important than anyone else, Jesus died for all. It is statements like the above that workers use to try & promote their importance !
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Post by maryhig on Jun 6, 2015 4:04:17 GMT -5
so true so true Virgo you agreed with this statement, no one is more important than anyone else, Jesus died for all. It is statements like the above that workers use to try & promote their importance ! Couldn't he just have mean't all people that serve God are important to him? Maybe he wasn't talking about just workers? He said Gods servants, not Gods workers. Just a thought? Aren't all Gods people serving him?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 4:15:49 GMT -5
Quote - "Virgo you agreed with this statement, no one is more important than anyone else, Jesus died for all. It is statements like the above that workers use to try & promote their importance!"
Guess that applies to the early preachers like Peter and Paul, too.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 6, 2015 4:19:13 GMT -5
Quote - "Virgo you agreed with this statement, no one is more important than anyone else, Jesus died for all. It is statements like the above that workers use to try & promote their importance!" Guess that applies to the early preachers like Peter and Paul, too.The workers are not Peter & Paul ! They are not Apostles, Bert !
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 6, 2015 4:21:29 GMT -5
"There is no gospel preached, and there is no soul saved, and there is no extension of the Kingdom of God apart from the preacher preaching the Gospel by the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven...The most important people in all the world today to God are His servants"
Maryhig, it is meaning the workers ! But no mention of Jesus !
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Post by maryhig on Jun 6, 2015 4:30:40 GMT -5
so true so true Virgo you agreed with this statement, no one is more important than anyone else, Jesus died for all. It is statements like the above that workers use to try & promote their importance ! But i do believe, God is pleased when his people preach the gospel. Romans 10 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they should remain humble, even the angels in heaven are humble. As it says below. When John saw the angel! Revelation 19:10 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. So all Gods people should be humble servants, and not want to be reverenced by anyone! But treat one another as equals. Felicity said a nice thing of the workers near her. That they help her. One was even doing her ironing! So not all can be bad. And you get bad people in every area of society!
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Post by maryhig on Jun 6, 2015 4:33:37 GMT -5
"There is no gospel preached, and there is no soul saved, and there is no extension of the Kingdom of God apart from the preacher preaching the Gospel by the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven...The most important people in all the world today to God are His servants" Maryhig, it is meaning the workers ! But no mention of Jesus ! Yes Jesus is most important, because he is the Christ and the holy spirit is sent through him. And he is the cornerstone of our faith!
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Post by Mary on Jun 6, 2015 4:58:11 GMT -5
The workers take those verses "how will they hear without a preacher," to mean them. They are the preachers and another name for a worker is a preacher. Those in meetings have been discouraged from talking about their faith to outsiders being told instead to just ask the person to a Gospel meeting. It is the workers job to preach. Workers are also called servants. The people are called the saints. So workers are called, workers, preachers and/or God's servants.
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Post by maryhig on Jun 6, 2015 5:09:26 GMT -5
The workers take those verses how will they hear without a preacher to mean them. They are the preachers and another name for a worker is a preacher. Those in meetings have been discouraged from taking about their faith to outsiders being told instead to just ask the person to a Gospel meeting. It is the workers job to preach. Workers are also called servants. The people are called the saints. So workers are called, workers, preachers and/or God's servants. Don't the friends talk to people the meet about God? What if they meet someone that really needs help? And bringing God to them could help them?
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Post by Mary on Jun 6, 2015 5:19:14 GMT -5
We were told to just ask them to Gospel meetings. Some might be more inclined to talk about their beliefs today but definitely we were told not to talk to people about what we believe but just to ask them to Gospel meetings. We were told not to cast our pearls before swine. The workers were the ones who had given up all to preach the Gospel and were the ones who saved people. Our job was to ask people to meetings to hear the workers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 5:26:44 GMT -5
Quote - "Virgo you agreed with this statement, no one is more important than anyone else, Jesus died for all. It is statements like the above that workers use to try & promote their importance!" Guess that applies to the early preachers like Peter and Paul, too. The workers are not Peter & Paul ! They are not Apostles, Bert ! As I was saying, guess that applies to the early preachers like Peter and Paul, too. Indeed, many of the accusations here could have been used against those early preachers.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 6, 2015 5:29:53 GMT -5
As I was saying the workers are NOT Peter & Paul. The workers are NOT Apostles ! How many workers were around when Christ was crucified Bert ?
Also Bert you know exactly what is meant by the original statement !
"Wilson McClung Peter speaks of a very important thing that must be in the life of the servant of God--it must be there. 1 Peter 1:10-12. There is no gospel preached, and there is no soul saved, and there is no extension of the Kingdom of God apart from the preacher preaching the Gospel by the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven...The most important people in all the world today to God are His servants..."
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Post by Mary on Jun 6, 2015 5:32:55 GMT -5
As I was saying, Roselyn is right! As she was saying, the workers are not the apostles. If you read in Revelations, the apostles have a special place in the new temple. The workers do not. They are equal with us commoners.
A worker's life..... seems as if our TMB real life worker is flying over the seven seas and will soon be visiting those folk in the USA. It's a worker's life......
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Post by maryhig on Jun 6, 2015 5:35:32 GMT -5
We were told to just ask them to Gospel meetings. Some might be more inclined to talk about their beliefs today but definitely we were told not to talk to people about what we believe but just to ask them to Gospel meetings. We were told not to cast or pearls before swine. The workers were the ones who had given up all to preach the Gospel and were the ones who saved people. Our job was to ask people to meetings to hear the workers. Oh, we all talk to people, we don't preach but talk to whoever wants to listen. We believe casting your pearls before swine means speaking the things of God to people who don't want to know or to people who's beliefs are against Jesus' teachings because they will be disrespectful and will insult Gods word. But I would talk to anyone. Then if they start to mock or insult God then would stop! But there are people you can meet that listen!
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Post by fixit on Jun 6, 2015 5:39:43 GMT -5
We were told to just ask them to Gospel meetings. Some might be more inclined to talk about their beliefs today but definitely we were told not to talk to people about what we believe but just to ask them to Gospel meetings. We were told not to cast or pearls before swine. The workers were the ones who had given up all to preach the Gospel and were the ones who saved people. Our job was to ask people to meetings to hear the workers. This was a big mistake that the ministry made. If they want converts, shouldn't they encourage the friends to talk to people about their beliefs? Ironically nearly everyone who makes their choice are the children of the friends. And the friends talk to them about their beliefs.
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Post by maryhig on Jun 6, 2015 5:40:24 GMT -5
As I was saying, Roselyn is right! As she was saying, the workers are not the apostles. If you read in Revelations, the apostles have a special place in the new temple. The workers do not. They are equal with us commoners. A worker's life..... seems as if our TMB real life worker is flying over the seven seas and will soon be visiting those folk in the USA. It's a worker's life...... Would friends talk to each other outside of the meeting, about things they've been reading and what they've seen that day in God etc?
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Post by maryhig on Jun 6, 2015 5:47:34 GMT -5
We were told to just ask them to Gospel meetings. Some might be more inclined to talk about their beliefs today but definitely we were told not to talk to people about what we believe but just to ask them to Gospel meetings. We were told not to cast or pearls before swine. The workers were the ones who had given up all to preach the Gospel and were the ones who saved people. Our job was to ask people to meetings to hear the workers. This was a big mistake that the ministry made. If they want converts, shouldn't they encourage the friends to talk to people about their beliefs? Ironically nearly everyone who makes their choice are the children of the friends. And the friends talk to them about their beliefs. I talk to whoever I can, I love talking about God. Were encouraged to! The more you share the word of God, the stronger you become! That's what I was hoping to find when I came here. Because Edward Cooney came from the same people as the f&ws I would love to talk more about God! But sometimes I don't feel it's right here! And sometimes I can't shut up!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 5:55:34 GMT -5
Quote - "The most important people in all the world today to God are His servants..."
RoselynT, who do YOU think would be the "The most important people in all the world" to God if not his servants? Do you think maybe back in Abraham's day that the Egyptian pyramids, perhaps, were the "most important thing to God."? Do you think in Daniel's day the "most important thing in the world" was the hanging gardens of Babylon?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 6, 2015 5:59:45 GMT -5
Bert you need to read the statement again ! The most important people in the world to God would be those who believe in him (His people) but then as Mary said everyone is important to God.
" Wilson McClung Peter speaks of a very important thing that must be in the life of the servant of God--it must be there. 1 Peter 1:10-12. There is no gospel preached, and there is no soul saved, and there is no extension of the Kingdom of God apart from the preacher preaching the Gospel by the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven...The most important people in all the world today to God are His servants..."
Bert, in the above who is the worker meaning when he says "the servant of God" ?
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Post by Mary on Jun 6, 2015 6:00:40 GMT -5
As I was saying, Roselyn is right! As she was saying, the workers are not the apostles. If you read in Revelations, the apostles have a special place in the new temple. The workers do not. They are equal with us commoners. A worker's life..... seems as if our TMB real life worker is flying over the seven seas and will soon be visiting those folk in the USA. It's a worker's life...... Would friends talk to each other outside of the meeting, about things they've been reading and what they've seen that day in God etc? The friends do not talk about the things of God outside of meeting. Even the workers do not do that when they visit. The fellowship meetings are for sharing about what they have been reading in the Bible.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 6:06:30 GMT -5
Do you think those Jews, who "carcases" were left in the "wilderness" during that 40 year journey, those who disobeyed God (but still certainly believed in Him) were God's "servants"? Why would God deny them entry into the Promised Land (and that's a metaphor for heaven BTW) if they were the "most important thing in the world" to God?
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