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Post by bulsi on Mar 14, 2015 13:33:57 GMT -5
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Post by matisse on Mar 14, 2015 15:04:50 GMT -5
The sister worker who reported that Leslie White raped her was willing to be questioned by the investigator in Colorado. Leslie was not willing to be questioned. Why not?
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Post by placid-void on Mar 14, 2015 15:09:54 GMT -5
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Post by placid-void on Mar 14, 2015 15:11:40 GMT -5
I wonder if there would be interest in a thread about justice. Yes, I would be interested.
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Post by bulsi on Mar 14, 2015 15:24:19 GMT -5
She was in Love with Leslie ......This worker (SW) is dogmatic about being rejected by her advances has now an agenda to destroy him
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Post by Mary on Mar 14, 2015 15:28:56 GMT -5
Blame the victim. No wonder victims don't report abuse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 15:36:22 GMT -5
She was in Love with Leslie ......This worker (SW) is dogmatic about being rejected by her advances has now an agenda to destroy him Is this a factual statement or just a matter of opinion based on that old Saying: " Hell has no fury like a woman scorned?"
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Post by placid-void on Mar 14, 2015 15:50:12 GMT -5
Why not? . . . . . . yknot . . . . . Did someone call? . . . . . . Get it? (comment intended as play on words/handle, smile, relax, all is well)
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Post by bulsi on Mar 14, 2015 15:59:01 GMT -5
which one is the victim?
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Post by matisse on Mar 14, 2015 17:06:41 GMT -5
She was in Love with Leslie ......This worker (SW) is dogmatic about being rejected by her advances has now an agenda to destroy him Perhaps when Leslie gets to Colorado, he can have a first meeting with the investigator who has been wanting to talk to him all of this time, and finally answer his questions. LW could float this theory that the SW was in love with him and now wants to destroy him. Perhaps then the investigation could finally be closed.
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Post by bulsi on Mar 14, 2015 17:30:28 GMT -5
I don't think she would be willing for this since she has nothing but here say!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 17:43:41 GMT -5
There is/was a couple in California who were unable to take part at the orders of Walter Pollock several years ago. Leslie told them that if they moved to Colorado, they could "take part". The lady came on this board after the mess hit the fan and stated that she believed LW was being pushed out by some other overseers. The late Taylor Wood had asked Leslie not to whimper so much from the platform. Overseer politics can come into play. I am in NO WAY trying to diminish anything LW may have done or said to the Colorado sister worker. But I don't think it is wrong to present the other possibility also. Overseer power struggles and politics go all the way back to when Wm. Irvine axed John Long around 1900.
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Post by matisse on Mar 14, 2015 17:43:59 GMT -5
I don't think she would be willing for this since she has nothing but here say!!!!!! The SW talking about her lived experience is not hearsay, it is her first hand account of her lived experience. Hearsay (listen!) is when you report what someone else told you about. My understanding is that the SW has already spoken with the investigator. What is LW afraid of that he has not been willing to meet with the investigator or answer any of his questions??? Why has LW communicated to the Friends that the matter has been resolved when the investigation is still officially open in Colorado???? IMO, LW has damaged his credibility with his actions and with his words.
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Mar 14, 2015 17:55:52 GMT -5
This thread is like reading Ayn Rand's "The night of January 16". There is enough "evidence" to cause reasonable doubt either way. No one commenting was there to witness the alleged event, so the judgments made are more of a reflection on the commenters, than on the people involved in the alleged incident.
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Post by matisse on Mar 14, 2015 18:13:58 GMT -5
This thread is like reading Ayn Rand's "The night of January 16". There is enough "evidence" to cause reasonable doubt either way. No one commenting was there to witness the alleged event, so the judgments made are more of a reflection on the commenters, than on the people involved in the alleged incident. What is the evidence that casts doubt on the account of the SW??
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Post by Greg on Mar 14, 2015 18:20:56 GMT -5
This thread is like reading Ayn Rand's "The night of January 16". There is enough "evidence" to cause reasonable doubt either way. No one commenting was there to witness the alleged event, so the judgments made are more of a reflection on the commenters, than on the people involved in the alleged incident. What is the evidence that casts doubt on the account of the SW?? I think there is none.
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Post by rational on Mar 14, 2015 18:22:56 GMT -5
This thread is like reading Ayn Rand's "The night of January 16". There is enough "evidence" to cause reasonable doubt either way. No one commenting was there to witness the alleged event, so the judgments made are more of a reflection on the commenters, than on the people involved in the alleged incident. What is the evidence that casts doubt on the account of the SW?? The same problem that arises in all decade old rape cases - there is no evidence.
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Post by matisse on Mar 14, 2015 18:34:53 GMT -5
What is the evidence that casts doubt on the account of the SW?? The same problem that arises in all decade old rape cases - there is no evidence. Precisely why the s@#&bags don't hesitate to rape. I'm tired of women getting hurt like this and having little to no recourse.
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Post by bulsi on Mar 14, 2015 18:42:52 GMT -5
The same problem that arises in all decade old rape cases - there is no evidence. Precisely why the s@#&bags don't hesitate to rape. I'm tired of women getting hurt like this and having little to no recourse. This is what she needs next time someone wants to BITC H about abuse and rape !
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Post by matisse on Mar 14, 2015 18:46:56 GMT -5
Precisely why the s@#&bags don't hesitate to rape. I'm tired of women getting hurt like this and having little to no recourse. This is what she needs next time someone wants to doll about abuse and rape ...and if he was smart enough to use a condom??? You need to be sentenced to live as a woman for a few years. Maybe you would stop sounding so ignorant....and not just about the use of condoms by rapists to block "evidence".
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Post by bulsi on Mar 14, 2015 18:47:32 GMT -5
I don't think she would be willing for this since she has nothing but here say!!!!!! The SW talking about her lived experience is not hearsay, it is her first hand account of her lived experience. Hearsay (listen!) is when you report what someone else told you about. My understanding is that the SW has already spoken with the investigator. What is LW afraid of that he has not been willing to meet with the investigator or answer any of his questions??? Why has LW communicated to the Friends that the matter has been resolved when the investigation is still officially open in Colorado? IMO, LW has damaged his credibility with his actions and with his words. Leslie White is now damaged goods or he could have split the truth in half
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Mar 14, 2015 19:04:58 GMT -5
The same problem that arises in all decade old rape cases - there is no evidence. Precisely why the s@#&bags don't hesitate to rape. I'm tired of women getting hurt like this and having little to no recourse. Wow.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 19:05:59 GMT -5
A very good question, but who knows the correct answer? Now adays with everyone jumping to their own conclusions based on hear- say or conspiracy theories, or gender bias, or simple prejudice, being self opiniated, who really knows the real truth in such matters? Only the parties directly involved; they know the real truth, and God knows the real truth, everything else on other's part may be speculation or wishful thinking, loyalty or disloyalty etc. etc.etc..........
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 19:10:49 GMT -5
The same problem that arises in all decade old rape cases - there is no evidence. Precisely why the s@#&bags don't hesitate to rape. I'm tired of women getting hurt like this and having little to no recourse. I agree with you and I sympathise with women. It hurts me also when I read about what goes on in India too somewhat aided and abetted by society there. Should not happen in civilised societies anywhere.
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Post by matisse on Mar 14, 2015 19:28:32 GMT -5
Thanks again, Scott for sharing the contents of LW's email, for clarifying that the investigation into the alleged rape remains open in Colorado, and that, to date, LW has not cooperated.
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Post by bulsi on Mar 14, 2015 20:01:23 GMT -5
This is just one of many issues concerning Leslie. There are several documented issues, such as when an arbitrator was hired in a sexual harassment case, another issue in Colorado concerning harassment of a young woman, and others as well. It would reflect pretty poorly on the church if he were to be reinstated.
This is what this is all about Scott ..LW would destoy the truth if he split ranks with it.
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Post by Greg on Mar 14, 2015 20:27:10 GMT -5
Precisely why the s@#&bags don't hesitate to rape. I'm tired of women getting hurt like this and having little to no recourse. I agree with you and I sympathise with women. It hurts me also when I read about what goes on in India too somewhat aided and abetted by society there. Should not happen in civilised societies anywhere. I think there be quite varying degrees of civilization and domestication among the approximate seven billion human animals on the planet. Then toss in the variance of moralities....religious or otherwise.
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Post by Greg on Mar 14, 2015 20:33:18 GMT -5
This is just one of many issues concerning Leslie. There are several documented issues, such as when an arbitrator was hired in a sexual harassment case, another issue in Colorado concerning harassment of a young woman, and others as well. It would reflect pretty poorly on the church if he were to be reinstated.
This is what this is all about Scott ..LW would destoy the truth if he split ranks with it. No. He and for most people their favorable memories of him would fade away....probably happening now.
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