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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 0:56:36 GMT -5
1) Phil Schneider had an IQ of 160 is classification a Genius. Phil Schneider was working as a government geologist with 17 years of experience in which he had been involved with NATO and U.S. gov't black projects. Eventually, gaining a level 3 clearance (Rhyolite 38), Phil was authorized to report directly to one of the three individuals: 1) The associated base commander where he was employed. 2) The Director of the CIA. 3) The President of the United States. As a citizen you too are authorized to report directly to the President. I am guessing he will listen to you as much as he listened to Phil S. If he has an IQ of 160 then that makes Phil S. a smart liar. Yet both you and they publish a photo of VT with 5 fingers. Don't you see NathanB - both of these 'facts' you promote cannot be true? Again with the centimeters. Lets convert that to inches and see if you can see how little sense it makes. Commander Valiant Thor has a brain 78.74 inches larger than humans. 78.74 inches is 6.56 feet. So Commander Valiant Thor has a brain that is 0ver 6 feet larger than a human. What does this mean? Where does he keep it? If Commander Valiant Thor has copper based blue blood, unlike the red blood of humans, what would provide the red/pink skin tones to Commander Valiant Thor? Why would he not appear cyanotic? Let's face it NathanB, you cannot resolve these questions because they are all made up 'facts'. Concentrate on the 6 1/ 2 foot larger brain. Start by explaining that factoid.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 4:15:48 GMT -5
Our dear friend msew kindly provided this board with information that Dr Frank Stranges little sect was raking in 250,000 bucks a year. When msew says something....I listen! Can you show me where she got the information Dr. Frank little sect raking in 250,000 dollars a year? Which sect or group of Dr. Frank she is talking about? Thanks. Here is what was quoted:
This is Dr Stranges church... International Evangelism Crusades Categorized under Covenant and Evangelical Church. Our records show it was established in 1959 and incorporated in California. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of 250000 and employs a staff of approximately 5.
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Post by msew on Nov 30, 2014 5:59:55 GMT -5
And the address of the founding church is:
9101 Topanga Canyon Boulevard # 209 Chatsworth, CA 91311
I also read that Dr Stranges and his father established these churches and schools all around the world. Doesn't sound like a little denomination does it? Or maybe it was another porky pie as I can't find any evidence of this world wide religion anywhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 6:55:04 GMT -5
And the address of the founding church is: 9101 Topanga Canyon Boulevard # 209 Chatsworth, CA 91311 I also read that Dr Stranges and his father established these churches and schools all around the world. Doesn't sound like a little denomination does it? Or maybe it was another porky pie as I can't find any evidence of this world wide religion anywhere else. Maybe the "world" they were talking about was "Venus?" Or was it part of the tax dodge?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 9:00:50 GMT -5
Here is what was quoted:
This is Dr Stranges church... International Evangelism Crusades Categorized under Covenant and Evangelical Church. Our records show it was established in 1959 and incorporated in California. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of 250000 and employs a staff of approximately 5.
Can you show me where you find the information? so I can read it for myself. Anyone can write that... who is in charge of the Dr. Stranges little groups now?Nathan, I agree that anyone can write anything about anyone or anything. This is what some people on this board have been trying to get through to you. However, on this occasion my authority is msew. In the human realm I know of no greater authority than msew. She has sourced the above information and that is secure enough for me. The fact that Pastor Stranges is not a Worker should first and foremost have pointed you in the direction of falsehood.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 9:45:27 GMT -5
Nathan, I agree that anyone can write anything about anyone or anything. This is what some people on this board have been trying to get through to you. However, on this occasion my authority is msew. In the human realm I know of no greater authority than msew. She has sourced the above information and that is secure enough for me. The fact that Pastor Stranges is not a Worker should first and foremost have pointed you in the direction of falsehood. No, Ram I try to back my data, information with facts. Let us wait and see if msew can show us information where she got her fact. Nathan, whilst I appreciate your remarks above, I think I am far from alone on this board in regarding msew as a far more credible source of information than some of the sources that you cite. Also I notice you have not addressed the fact that Pastor Stranges was not a Worker and thus we can only conclude that he was a false teacher.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 9:50:38 GMT -5
Typical Ram style quote - "Pastor Stranges was not a Worker and thus we can only conclude that he was a false teacher."
Hmmm..... o.k.a.y.y.y.y
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 10:20:52 GMT -5
Nathan, whilst I appreciate your remarks above, I think I am far from alone on this board in regarding msew as a far more credible source of information than some of the sources that you cite. Also I notice you have not addressed the fact that Pastor Stranges was not a Worker and thus we can only conclude that he was a false teacher. FYI, I have discussed many topics, issues, doctrines with msew for MANY years on TMB. Jesus said about false prophets, " By their fruit ye shall KNOW then " There are many CSA workers among us... Their fruits are rotten to the core. Jesus wants us to be fruits inspectors. Don't let the outward appearance fool you. Just because they say they are workers then you must believe EVERYTHING they say and do. Be fruits inspectors!
In the book of Revelation to the 7 churches Jesus said there were false teachers, false apostles among them.
I have inspected Dr. Frank Stranges fruits to be good, wholesome, a man of God. If Dr Frank were still ALIVE, he and I would have a lot of things in common. We would have a great fellowship together.
This worries me Nathan!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 11:26:35 GMT -5
Typical Ram style quote - " Pastor Stranges was not a Worker and thus we can only conclude that he was a false teacher."Hmmm..... o.k.a.y.y.y.yBert, I try to be consistent, even when I'm inconsistent! Had Pastor Stranger gone into the Work instead of becoming a "hireling," he would not have had time to get involved with all this Comdr Thor stuff, or been able to line his pockets through his ministry! I would have thought Nathan would have realised this?
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 12:42:00 GMT -5
Humans[edit]brain Size The balance of findings for human brain size, have been largely on participants of European ancestry, indicate an average adult brain volume of 1130 cubic centimetres (cm3) for women and 1260 cm3 for men. There is substantial variation however;[1] a study of 46 adults aged 22–49 years and of mainly European descent, found an average brain volume of 1273.6 cm3 for men, ranging from 1052.9 to 1498.5 cm3, and 1131.1 cm3 for women, ranging from 974.9 to 1398.1 cm3.[2] But your source didn't say cubic centimeters. That is a different story altogether. And you, of course, know that the size of the brain does not indicate anything about the intelligence of the person who possesses it. So with this additional (now 300 cm 3) brain material where does it fit? 300 cm 3 is over a cup (8 oz.) and is why the heads of the Neanderthals look so much out of proportion compared to modern man. Commander Valiant Thor looks like a normal modern human - where does he stash the extra 300 cm 3? It's not like people's heads have a lot of extra space inside. And now you are talking about a person whose head has to have a capacity that is almost 25% larger than the average human. Don't you think it would be noticeable in the photos?
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2014 12:56:03 GMT -5
Here is what was quoted:
This is Dr Stranges church... International Evangelism Crusades Categorized under Covenant and Evangelical Church. Our records show it was established in 1959 and incorporated in California. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of 250000 and employs a staff of approximately 5.
Can you show me where you find the information? so I can read it for myself. Anyone can write that... who is in charge of the Dr. Stranges little groups now?lOL coming from you that just struck me as humorous. It would do you good to take that kind of warning back and use it wisely. 'Anyone can write that'. That's exactly what Phil S and F Stranges have done and you believe them. Really think about what Rational has posted above. In the pictures you have posted that you say are Valiant Thor, he has a head the same size as any human. Yet you also believe he has a brain that is 6.5 feet larger than a human brain. Where does he keep it? His head certainly is not larger than ours.
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2014 13:01:47 GMT -5
But your source didn't say cubic centimeters. That is a different story altogether. And you, of course, know that the size of the brain does not indicate anything about the intelligence of the person who possesses it. So with this additional (now 300 cm 3) brain material where does it fit? 300 cm 3 is over a cup (8 oz.) and is why the heads of the Neanderthals look so much out of proportion compared to modern man. Commander Valiant Thor looks like a normal modern human - where does he stash the extra 300 cm 3? It's not like people's heads have a lot of extra space inside. And now you are talking about a person whose head has to have a capacity that is almost 25% larger than the average human. Don't you think it would be noticeable in the photos? ~~ Brain size and smarts are, genetic, IQ.
Brain size and smarts are, to some extent, genetic — and now, a team of more than 200 researchers has uncovered specific genes that are linked to both brain volume and IQ. Though scientists have suggested bigger brains are “smarter,” this study is the strongest case yet for a genetic connection to brain size and to IQ. Of course, brain size is not 100 percent correlated with a person’s intelligence, and other factors, including connections between brain cells and even a person’s experiences play a role. “We found fairly unequivocal proof supporting a genetic link to brain function and intelligence. For the first time, we have watertight evidence of how these genes affect the brain,” said lead researcher Paul Thompson, a neurologist at the University of California, Los Angeles, School of Medicine.gnosticwarrior.com/head-size-matters.html Could it be God created the Venusians brains and made it so compact that they don't like the Neanderthals heads.A measurement is a measurement. You don't compact a measurement Nathan. If something is 6 ft, then it's 6 ft. That is it's size. Otherwise they would have given a different measurement to reflect a compacted brain.
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 13:02:35 GMT -5
read the posts above on Valiant Thor... 300 cm3 brain larger than humans. Rational figures is incorrect. Which figures are incorrect? That adding 300 cc to a 1250 cc brain would require an increase of about 25%? Don't just call out errors, NathanB, point them out and provide some substance.
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2014 13:02:44 GMT -5
lOL coming from you that just struck me as humorous. It would do you good to take that kind of warning back and use it wisely. 'Anyone can write that'. That's exactly what Phil S and F Stranges have done and you believe them. Really think about what Rational has posted above. In the pictures you have posted that you say are Valiant Thor, he has a head the same size as any human. Yet you also believe he has a brain that is 6.5 feet larger than a human brain. Where does he keep it? His head certainly is not larger than ours. read the posts above on Valiant Thor... 300 cm3 brain larger than humans. Rational figures is incorrect.umm he got those measurements from what you posted Nathan. Have you got conflicting information again?
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 13:12:47 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Nov 30, 2014 13:26:29 GMT -5
~ NathanB Why would the UFO's be based in Chatsworth CA - the porn capital of the world?
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2014 13:27:53 GMT -5
Well there you go. And since Nathan can no longer 'fellowship' with Frank, maybe he can contact Julie-Ann and have lots in common with her too? The possibilities are endless. You never know, she might even profess.
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 13:29:53 GMT -5
~ NathanB Why would the UFO's be based in Chatsworth CA - the porn capital of the world? It has been reported that VT has 6 fingers, a large heart, large brain, one huge lung.... Maybe there is a link between large anatomical parts and that particular segment of the film industry.
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 16:19:39 GMT -5
Well there you go. And since Nathan can no longer 'fellowship' with Frank, maybe he can contact Julie-Ann and have lots in common with her too? The possibilities are endless. You never know, she might even profess. Julie Anne Stranges is Dr. Frank niece.... I sent an email to her 3 weeks ago. I didn't hear it from her, I might try it one more time later. She is selling Dr. Stranges books. Dr. Frank inner circle group is not active.Oh, NathanB, no wonder she didn't respond. Once again you have been misinformed. Julie Anne Stranges, the person running the "organization", is the widow of Frank Stranges. If you can't get the facts correct on things like this how can you ever hope to get people to think you have any of the more, unprovable, extraordinary "facts" correct? Julie Anne Stranges did indicate that the sales of Frank's books were slumping but she was not the one with the creative streak to produce additional material. She is surprised that people still order the books but could believe that it is people who think they have been or will be abducted by aliens and want to be able to uphold their end of a dinner conversation when they attend a "meet and greet" or "probe and prod". She probably can not imagine anything worse than being probed and prodded and not have enough information to be able to enter into an entertaining conversation.
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 16:55:10 GMT -5
Oh, NathanB, no wonder she didn't respond. Once again you have been misinformed. Julie Anne Stranges, the person running the "organization", is the widow of Frank Stranges. If you can't get the facts correct on things like this how can you ever hope to get people to think you have any of the more, unprovable, extraordinary "facts" correct? hahaha... rational... because I sent to an email longer exist! You better check with your source again about Julie A. Stranges is the widow of Dr. Frank S..... Just like your moon book it did not mention about Harley Byrd in it. A TRIBUTE TO DR. FRANK E. STRANGES 1927 – 2008 By Julie Ann Stranges <snip> Something written somewhere that does not mention the relationship <snip> Julie Anne Stranges From the organization's site: Founder
NICUFO was founded by Dr. Frank E. Stranges who lectured on the subjects of UFOs, Space and Science Phenomena throughout the world. He was considered to be a leading authority on these subjects. NICUFO is now directed by his wife, Julie Ann Stranges.( www.nicufo.org/) See how I give you references so you can check them out? Try to do that. Or: Dr Frank's website is: nicufo.org It is now run by his widow, Julie Ann Stranges. There you can find merchandise for sale. For a complete list of other books, audio and video tapes by Dr. Frank E. Stranges, via the snail mail route, write to:
IEC - Book & Tape Dept. P.O. Box 73 Van Nuys, CA 91408-0073 USA( valiantthor.com/dr-frank-e-stranges/frank-e-stranges-resources-merchandise/) You probably know Julie Ann Stranges is also the President of International Evangelism Crusades the church started by her husband. Oh, and I remember you were looking for the information about the "church" frank set up: Here it is.More Details for International Evangelism Crusades
Categorized under Covenant and Evangelical Church. Our records show it was established in 1959 and incorporated in California. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of 250000 and employs a staff of approximately 5.
I wonder if you will admit you are in error and apologize?
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 17:01:27 GMT -5
Thanks, for the link... I read the letter in Remembering Dr. Frank Stranges which Julie A. Stranges wrote in dedication to Dr. Frank... There was no indication she was his wife. It sounds more like she was a nice to me. She might be very nice but you have, I believe, once again provided false data. Hey, it happens to everyone. Some people admit they were in error.
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 17:05:00 GMT -5
hahaha... rational... because I sent to an email longer exist! You better check with your source again about Julie A. Stranges is the widow of Dr. Frank S..... Just like your moon book it did not mention about Harley Byrd in it. Yes, I used the wrong name. But at least I was able to show you that there was no way Harley was the nephew of Admiral Byrd. It is just another made up story padded with made up connections to sell the BS. Did you ever respond about Harley's fraudulent Free Energy scam?
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2014 18:03:35 GMT -5
Well there you go. And since Nathan can no longer 'fellowship' with Frank, maybe he can contact Julie-Ann and have lots in common with her too? The possibilities are endless. You never know, she might even profess. Julie Anne Stranges is Dr. Frank niece.... I sent an email to her 3 weeks ago. I didn't hear it from her, I might try it one more time later. She is selling Dr. Stranges books. Dr. Frank inner circle group is not active.
Well keep trying. If nothing else you will likely be able to talk to someone who believes like you do.
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 18:31:29 GMT -5
Julie Anne Stranges is Dr. Frank niece.... I sent an email to her 3 weeks ago. I didn't hear it from her, I might try it one more time later. She is selling Dr. Stranges books. Dr. Frank inner circle group is not active.
Well keep trying. If nothing else you will likely be able to talk to someone who believes like you do. Think she might be in it for the money???
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 18:42:07 GMT -5
Yes, I used the wrong name. But at least I was able to show you that there was no way Harley was the nephew of Admiral Byrd. It is just another made up story padded with made up connections to sell the BS. Did you ever respond about Harley's fraudulent Free Energy scam? So, we all make mistakes... Hey, I am still learning... I don't know everything. I know this for sure Harley Bryd is in the Byrd clan/family tree. I tried to trace Harley Andrew Bryd family tree but it cost money and I didn't want to pay. However, I got this far, there is a 76 yrs old man name Harley A. Byrd living in Burbank, Calf.
Harley Andrew Bryd was born in Sept 10, 1938..... in 2014... this make him to be 76 yrs old today.
NathanB - this is simple. To be the nephew of Admiral Byrd, Harley would have to be the son of the Admiral Byrd's brother, Harry F. Byrd Sr. The son of Harry F. Byrd Sr. was named Harry F. Byrd Jr. and was a senator from VA. Harry F. Byrd did not have any other sons. Harry F Byrd Jr. died July 30, 2013. There is no one named Harley in that generation. End of that story. The Byrd family name is an old name with lots of people listed with a variety of names. We were looking at a single individual who claimed to be the son of Harry F. Byrd Sr., the nephew of Admiral Byrd. The diary and the tall tales told have been demonstrated time and time to be false.
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Post by rational on Nov 30, 2014 18:45:07 GMT -5
There are a lot of people who believe like me out there.... There are a lot of people who believe sugar causes hyperactivity in children. Doesn't mean it does. I am so glad truth/facts is not determined by popular vote!
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2014 20:30:15 GMT -5
Well keep trying. If nothing else you will likely be able to talk to someone who believes like you do. Think she might be in it for the money??? Nah, now why would you think that! Milk it till the end seems to be their motto.
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Post by snow on Nov 30, 2014 20:33:12 GMT -5
Well keep trying. If nothing else you will likely be able to talk to someone who believes like you do. There are a lot of people who believe like me out there....
Recent Polls About UFOs & Aliens – Growing Trends of Beliefs Part 1
Larry King ran a couple of programs about a UFO sighting in Stephenville TX a couple of years back, and on his website they posted a poll simply asking people “Do you believe in extra-terrestrial life?” It got an amazingly high number of affirmative answers – 86% said yes. That’s the highest number I’ve ever seen on any similar poll from a major media source.
Yes Nathan, there are a lot of people that believe there could be life out there besides us. However, you take it a whole lot further than just believe in extraterrestrial life. You believe in fallen angels, humans that can visit Venus, a hollow earth where aliens hide out and the list is practically endless. There are probably some that have some of what you believe as their belief, but the combination you seem to have, I doubt the numbers are very high.
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