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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 10, 2014 20:41:53 GMT -5
Go to the link you gave Nathan: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSuGNLHehIQ Then look at the name "Daisy Hensley" below the video.
Yet, you fall for every doctored video & photo that comes down the pike! Why?
So, dmg, Rational, and Matisse... #3) Video/pictures of the Mother ship on the moon looked fake or doctored according to three of you? Can anyone of you give me your answer. How about with a simple answer, yes or No. Thanks.3) A VERY Clear NASA moon spaceship stabilized video material I Apollo 20 mission I www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPnthqqfZSU Along with your fake link is another interesting one: what you were never meant to see ..apollo 20 and spaceship.
Voices:
"The eagle has landed. We are on the f****ing moon"
"Copy that, you are on the f****ing moon."
Now, I'm sure that is NOT faked! I'm quite sure that they used those words!
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 10, 2014 21:41:32 GMT -5
Ive heard that some peoples reality is different to others. Not really! There is one reality:Merriam-Webster Definition:
reality : the true situation that exists : the real situation : something that actually exists or happens : a real event, occurrence, situation, etc.
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Post by Lee on Nov 10, 2014 22:44:04 GMT -5
There are no degrees of atheism. Either you believe in a god or you don't. Really simple. Personally I do not believe in any paranormal entities or phenomenon so that rules out the 'Spirit' as well. There isn't any collision of "spirit and matter" in Mankind . Our bodies are made of "matter" & no one has been able to produce anything called a "spirit" within that matter. Hey Nathan, are 'Zombies' on your list of alien creatures? There's at least two specimens claiming their minds are totally made up of chemical reactions here and sometimes I'm inclined to believe them. What do you think?
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Post by Lee on Nov 10, 2014 23:02:39 GMT -5
Seeing is not believing. Every idea we hold must first acquire a critical mass in our minds. School is a perfect example. How many ideas did we acquire at school that we were previously oblivious to? Only by a miracle of sorts, school teachers working in the atmosphere of schools, do our minds grow.
UFO's/aliens would be universally apprehended if they were to become substantively present. Do they lurk? If so why? Has there ever been inter-planetary travel?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 10, 2014 23:29:00 GMT -5
Hey Nathan, are 'Zombies' on your list of alien creatures? There's at least two specimens claiming their minds are totally made up of chemical reactions here and sometimes I'm inclined to believe them. What do you think? Seeing is not believing. Every idea we hold must first acquire a critical mass in our minds. School is a perfect example. How many ideas did we acquire at school that we were previously oblivious to? Only by a miracle of sorts, school teachers working in the atmosphere of schools, do our minds grow. Lee, where does our minds reside? Outside of our bodies? No? The what part of our bodies do our minds reside?
Our minds reside in our brains, right? Our brains are an organ of our bodies, right?
Like our hearts, our stomachs, our livers, our gall bladders etc., are also organs, right?
If there is damage to our brains, -lack of oxygen, -blood flow reduction, -our brains are affected, right?
And this affects our minds, right?
Why do you believe that just because they are our minds that they react differently than the other organs of our body?
We tend to believe our Minds are so very important, -yet actually we are only a burst blood vessel, brain damage from an accident, or many other affects that could happen to our brains, -to show us just where those wonderful MINDS come from.
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Post by bubbles on Nov 11, 2014 4:05:16 GMT -5
Seeing is not believing. Every idea we hold must first acquire a critical mass in our minds. School is a perfect example. How many ideas did we acquire at school that we were previously oblivious to? Only by a miracle of sorts, school teachers working in the atmosphere of schools, do our minds grow. UFO's/aliens would be universally apprehended if they were to become substantively present. Do they lurk? If so why? Has there ever been inter-planetary travel? Our minds develope faster between birth and 5yrs more than at any other time in our life. Who do you think is able to apprehend an alien? Brangelinas are prepared to pay to travel into outer space.
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Post by matisse on Nov 11, 2014 6:38:57 GMT -5
Watch: "Dark Secrets Episode" #4 Monster of Altagalpa taken place in 1982 Nicaraquan in Central America CIA experiment on Zombies.... You need to check out Episode # 6 Twilight Wisdom... it will blow your mind. Most of the episodes are VERY truly amazing. The TV series, Dark Secrets, is science fiction.
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Post by rational on Nov 11, 2014 9:27:46 GMT -5
There are no degrees of atheism. Either you believe in a god or you don't. Really simple. Personally I do not believe in any paranormal entities or phenomenon so that rules out the 'Spirit' as well. There isn't any collision of "spirit and matter" in Mankind . Our bodies are made of "matter" & no one has been able to produce anything called a "spirit" within that matter. Hey Nathan, are 'Zombies' on your list of alien creatures? There's at least two specimens claiming their minds are totally made up of chemical reactions here and sometimes I'm inclined to believe them. What do you think? Whose mind is not made up of electro-chemical reactions?
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Post by xna on Nov 11, 2014 10:36:41 GMT -5
Top 10 Zombie Scenes in the Bible 1. The Gospel of Luke: "Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen" (Luke 24:5). Such a suggestive phrase. Note also that the angels asking the question and those they address are standing inside a tomb at the time (Luke 24:2-4). 2. The Book of Revelation: "the sea gave up the dead that were in it" (Revelation 20:13). John the Seer's creepy statement reminds me of a scene in George A. Romero's "Land of the Dead" (2005) that features slow-moving corpses walking out of the surf, and Max Brooks' "World War Z" with its account of the boy returning from a swim with a bite mark on his foot. He also describes the zombie hoards roaming the world's oceans: "They say there are still somewhere between twenty and thirty million of them, still washing up on beaches, or getting snagged in fisherman's nets." 3. Deuteronomy: "Your corpses shall be food for every bird of the air and animal of the earth, and there shall be no one to frighten them away" (Deuteronomy 28:25-26; cf. 2 Samuel 21:10; Psalm 79:1-2; Isaiah 34:2-3; Jeremiah 7:33). The ancients worried about the exposure of their body after death. Improper care of one's corpse was a terrifying prospect, so it is no wonder it features in prophetic warnings of divine wrath. Qoheleth insists that even though a man lives a long life and has many children, if he "has no burial ... a stillborn child is better off than he" (Ecclesiastes 6:3). The indignity of non-burial presumably accounts for the honor bestowed on the poor man Lazarus in Jesus' parable; the rich man receives proper burial but Lazarus "was carried away by the angels to be with Abraham" (Luke 16:22) because there was no one to care for his remains. 4. The Book of Job: "Why is light given to one in misery, and life to the bitter in soul, who long for death, but it does not come, and dig for it more than for hidden treasures...?" (Job 3:20-21). Job is angry he did not die at birth (3:11), adding that he loathes his life and does not want to live forever (7:16). Others prefer death to life out of principled anger against God, like the prophet Jonah (4:3; cf. 4:8). Physical death eludes a surprising number of people in the Christian Bible, and this is not always a welcome thing. The prophet John refers to some who "seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will flee from them" (Revelation 9:6). The prospect of an elusive death, as every zombie fan knows, terrorizes the living. The "stricken" Charlotte Lucas in "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" agrees to marry the tedious and obsequious minister Mr. Collins because she wants "a husband who will see to [her] proper Christian beheading and burial." This is no small task for most survivors left with such a grim assignment, as Shaun well knows: "I don't think I got it in me to shoot my flat mate, my mom, and my girlfriend all in the same evening" ("Shaun of the Dead," 2004). 5. The Gospel of Matthew: "The tombs also were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised. After [Jesus'] resurrection they came out of the tombs and entered the holy city and appeared to many" (Matthew 27:52-53). Unwanted persistent life is a recurring image in biblical literature and so too is language referring to the impermanence of bodily death. The dead do not stay dead. The psalmist is confident he will not "see decay" (Psalm 16:10 New International Version; cf. Acts 2:27; 13:35). We read of the physical resurrections of specific individuals (e.g., 1 Kings 17:17-24; Luke 8:49-56; maybe Acts 20:7-12) and expected mass revivals (e.g., 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17). Some of these accounts of un-dying involve reference to un-burying. Mary and Martha's brother Lazarus walks out of his tomb when "they took away the stone" (John 11:41). On Easter morning, mourners find "the stone, which was very large, had already been rolled back" (Mark 16:4). A second century writer describes further the events preceding Jesus' emergence from the tomb: "That stone which had been laid against the entrance to the sepulchre started of itself to roll and gave way to the side, and the sepulchre was opened" (Gospel of Peter 9.35). 6. Ezekiel: Ezekiel receives a vision promising the restoration of Israel (37:11). Seeing a valley full of bones, the Lord instructs him to speak to them, saying, "O dry bones ... I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live. I will lay sinews on you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live" (37:4-6). When Ezekiel does so, "there was a noise, a rattling" as bones come together and sinew and skin appears and the breath of life returns. The dry bones "lived, and stood on their feet, a vast multitude" (37:7-10). 7. Zechariah: "their flesh shall rot while they are still on their feet; their eyes shall rot in their sockets, and their tongues shall rot in their mouths" (Zechariah 14:12). They seem to resemble extras in a George A. Romero film. 8. The Gospel of Mark: "hell, where their worm never dies" (Mark 9:48; alluding here to Isaiah 66:24). Gehenna (here symbolically representing "hell," and usually translated so, as in Mark 9:44, 45, 47) refers to the Valley of Hinnom located to the south and southwest of Jerusalem. Following the reign of Israel's righteous King Josiah (see 2 Kings 23:10-14), it became Jerusalem's garbage heap, a place with maggots and rotting corpses. Jesus refers to this burning garbage in Mark 9:48, a place where residents of the city would leave the rotting corpses of humans and animals to the worms that do not die, to maggots. The image suggests the corpses of the damned rot in gehenna/hell -- maggot ridden -- in perpetuity. 9. 2 Maccabees: "[Antiochus IV Epiphanes] was seized with a pain in his bowels, for which there was no relief, and with sharp internal tortures -- and that very justly, for he had tortured the bowels of others with many and strange inflictions ... he fell out of his chariot as it was rushing along, and the fall was so hard as to torture every limb of his body. ... the ungodly man's body swarmed with worms, and while he was still living in anguish and pain, his flesh rotted away, and because of the stench the whole army felt revulsion at his decay. Because of his intolerable stench no one was able to carry the man who a little while before had thought that he could touch the stars of heaven" (2 Maccabees 9:5-6, 7, 9-10). The Syrian ruler's physical body rots away zombie-like while he still lives. The cause is divine, as the God of Israel strikes this enemy of the Jews with "an incurable and invisible blow" (2 Maccabees 9:5). 10. Genesis with the Book of Revelation: "the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep"; "the first heaven and the first earth has passed away, and the sea was no more" (Genesis 1:2; Revelation 21:1). With the disappearance of chaos, Eden returns: "On either side of the river is the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit" (Revelation 22:2; cf. Genesis 2:9). Horrors stories often wander back and forth between forms of paradise (ordered society) and chaos (some variant of an apocalyptic hellscape) thus recalling biblical stories with similar alternations. Zombie stories typically depict the disintegration of the modern world, and often hint at a return from the wilderness to the paradisiacal garden for survivors (cf. Genesis 3:23-24). Danny Boyle's "28 Days Later" (2002), for one, ends with a developing romance between Jim and Salina, happy in the cultivated lands around a cottage that echoes Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. The sequel "28 Weeks Later" (2007), however, depicts a failed attempt to restore Eden. After the spread of the disastrous infection in the first film, the sequel documents efforts to repopulate the United Kingdom. Survivors return to their homeland, to what the director's commentary refers to as "a new world" and a "Garden of Eden." Naturally, mayhem ensues and the infection spreads as the movie unfolds. It wouldn't be much of a horror movie otherwise. www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-gilmour/biblical-zombie-scenes_b_1643970.html
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 12:24:00 GMT -5
now i am going to have nightmares again!
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Post by matisse on Nov 11, 2014 13:19:33 GMT -5
Nathan, the first video is most of an hour long, the second one is 1.5 hours long. I am not going to spend my time watching them. Please point me to something I can read...preferably in a peer-reviewed scientific journal!
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Post by matisse on Nov 11, 2014 14:14:18 GMT -5
Nathan, "Cracked.com" is a humor website. Much of it's content is tongue-in-cheek...all of it is for fun! Toxoplasmosis is a real parasite...I probably have it in my own brain since I have had mouse-killing cats for years. Cracked takes something factual that has been scientifically/medically established and distorts it with fiction to suggest that a real zombie apocalypse might happen. (Note to self: must find human brain for supper...) Cracked.com hosts an image manipulation contest called "Photoplasty". You might want to check it out to see the kinds of images (both moving and still) that people invent for fun...and that are sometimes good enough to fool people!
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Post by matisse on Nov 11, 2014 14:52:42 GMT -5
Nathan, "Cracked.com" is a humor website. Much of it's content is tongue-in-cheek...all of it is for fun! They host an image manipulation contest called "Photoplasty". You might want to check it out to see the kinds of images (both moving and still) that people invent for fun...and that are sometimes good enough to fool people! ~~ NathanB: I don't think so! from Crack.com on ZoombiesParasites that turn victims into mindless, zombie-like slaves are fairly common in nature. There's one called toxoplasmosa gondii that seems to devote its entire existence to being terrifying.
This bug infects rats, but can only breed inside the intestines of a cat. The parasite knows it needs to get the rat inside the cat (yes, we realize this sounds like the beginning of the most rumpy pumpyed-up Dr. Seuss poem ever) so the parasite takes over the rat's freaking brain, and intentionally makes it scurry toward where the cats hang out. The rat is being programmed to get itself eaten, and it doesn't even know.
Of course, those are just rats, right?Read more: www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html#ixzz3In2xkzdaThis is from Crack.com.... I don't think is a humor website. They want to inform people.The 7 Most Horrifying Parasites on the Planet. You think this is humor?Read more: www.cracked.com/article_17199_the-7-most-horrifying-parasites-planet.html#ixzz3In2GZtVJI was making an edit to my post above when you wrote this....yes toxoplasmosis is real, but the presentation you quote above is what I would call "dark humor". There is a mixing of fact and extrapolation into fiction. There is no zombie apocalypse happening like you see in the movies ("Night of the Living Dead" - link below), and this site doesn't make your videos that claim extraterrestrials have visited earth and spent time at the pentagon any more credible. According to Wikipedia, today's version of the website Cracked.com is the result of a merger of the original "Cracked.com" humor website with another humor website called "Pointless Waste of Time"! I do recommend the movie, "Night of the Living Dead"! It's a cult classic and a low budget, scary film! Just remember, it is not real!
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Post by matisse on Nov 11, 2014 15:11:20 GMT -5
Matisse, when you have time, you need to listen/watch to the below videos. I know it's kind of long but an eye opening about Zombies. That's all I want to say about Zombies.Nathan, the first video is most of an hour long, the second one is 1.5 hours long. I am not going to spend my time watching them. Please point me to something I can read...preferably in a peer-reviewed scientific journal! You still hold onto hope for me, don't you!
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 11, 2014 15:21:02 GMT -5
Seeing is not believing. Every idea we hold must first acquire a critical mass in our minds. School is a perfect example. How many ideas did we acquire at school that we were previously oblivious to? Only by a miracle of sorts, school teachers working in the atmosphere of schools, do our minds grow. UFO's/aliens would be universally apprehended if they were to become substantively present. Do they lurk? If so why? Has there ever been inter-planetary travel? Our minds develope faster between birth and 5yrs more than at any other time in our life. Who do you think is able to apprehend an alien? Brangelinas are prepared to pay to travel into outer space. What has Brangelina got to do with the subject of aliens or our minds?
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Post by matisse on Nov 11, 2014 15:45:37 GMT -5
You still hold onto hope for me, don't you! It's NOT over until the fat lady sings! Yes, when there is life, there is hope. Love ya sis.Hmmmm....what if I am a fat lady who sings?! :-)
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Post by bubbles on Nov 11, 2014 16:49:05 GMT -5
Our minds develope faster between birth and 5yrs more than at any other time in our life. Who do you think is able to apprehend an alien? Brangelinas are prepared to pay to travel into outer space. What has Brangelina got to do with the subject of aliens or our minds?
Interplanetary travel?
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Post by xna on Nov 11, 2014 18:35:57 GMT -5
~ NathanB
Its appears to me that all these aliens don't look like us humans, and you say humans and many different kinds of aliens will all be in heaven. How then do you explain this verse? Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;..."
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2014 1:11:14 GMT -5
It's NOT over until the fat lady sings! Yes, when there is life, there is hope. Love ya sis.Hmmmm....what if I am a fat lady who sings?! :-) Or I'm the fat lady that sings? Believe me, I'd be the last one! They would boo me off the stage!
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2014 1:15:27 GMT -5
~ NathanB Its appears to me that all these aliens don't look like us humans, and you say humans and many different kinds of aliens will all be in heaven. How then do you explain this verse? Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;..." Oh, that one is easy! See, -we made our GOD in our image!
I expect that aliens make their GOD in their own image as well.
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Post by bubbles on Nov 12, 2014 3:49:09 GMT -5
Xna must be talking about Enlil and Enke.
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Post by Lee on Nov 12, 2014 12:13:23 GMT -5
Hey Nathan, are 'Zombies' on your list of alien creatures? There's at least two specimens claiming their minds are totally made up of chemical reactions here and sometimes I'm inclined to believe them. What do you think? Seeing is not believing. Every idea we hold must first acquire a critical mass in our minds. School is a perfect example. How many ideas did we acquire at school that we were previously oblivious to? Only by a miracle of sorts, school teachers working in the atmosphere of schools, do our minds grow. Lee, where does our minds reside? Outside of our bodies? No? The what part of our bodies do our minds reside?
Our minds reside in our brains, right? Our brains are an organ of our bodies, right?
Like our hearts, our stomachs, our livers, our gall bladders etc., are also organs, right?
If there is damage to our brains, -lack of oxygen, -blood flow reduction, -our brains are affected, right?
And this affects our minds, right?
Why do you believe that just because they are our minds that they react differently than the other organs of our body?
We tend to believe our Minds are so very important, -yet actually we are only a burst blood vessel, brain damage from an accident, or many other affects that could happen to our brains, -to show us just where those wonderful MINDS come from.
Most people don't believe their minds are just illusions produced from physical activity. Is that what you believe?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2014 14:52:43 GMT -5
Lee, where does our minds reside? Outside of our bodies? No? The what part of our bodies do our minds reside?
Our minds reside in our brains, right? Our brains are an organ of our bodies, right?
Like our hearts, our stomachs, our livers, our gall bladders etc., are also organs, right?
If there is damage to our brains, -lack of oxygen, -blood flow reduction, -our brains are affected, right?
And this affects our minds, right?
Why do you believe that just because they are our minds that they react differently than the other organs of our body?
We tend to believe our Minds are so very important, -yet actually we are only a burst blood vessel, brain damage from an accident, or many other affects that could happen to our brains, -to show us just where those wonderful MINDS come from.
Most people don't believe their minds are just illusions produced from physical activity. Is that what you believe? How do you think your minds works, Lee? How does your work when you are awake? When you are asleep?
If you should happen to have a brain injury?
If you are dead?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2014 15:05:44 GMT -5
Xna must be talking about Enlil and Enke. I don't think so.
Enki and Enlil were Enki, Lord of the Earth and Waters and Enlil, Lord of the Air and Lord of the Command Genesis 1:26 was about mankind. 26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.…
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Post by Lee on Nov 12, 2014 16:22:13 GMT -5
Most people don't believe their minds are just illusions produced from physical activity. Is that what you believe? How do you think your minds works, Lee? How does your work when you are awake? When you are asleep?
If you should happen to have a brain injury?
If you are dead?
So in your mind there's no difference between physical activity and perceiving physical activity. Perception is just an illusion right?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2014 16:37:11 GMT -5
How do you think your minds works, Lee? How does your work when you are awake? When you are asleep?
If you should happen to have a brain injury?
If you are dead?
So in your mind there's no difference between physical activity and perceiving physical activity. Perception is just an illusion right? You never answered my questions, Lee! Answer mine before asking more questions! How do you think your minds works, Lee? How does your work when you are awake? When you are asleep?
If you should happen to have a brain injury?
If you are dead?
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Post by Lee on Nov 12, 2014 17:38:28 GMT -5
Mostly like yours does. If we could cleanse the doors of perception, of the illusion of perception, we would see pure physical activity, correct?
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Post by rational on Nov 12, 2014 19:57:02 GMT -5
Mostly like yours does. If we could cleanse the doors of perception, of the illusion of perception, we would see pure physical activity, correct? I find this difficult to parse using common definitions.
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