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Post by déjà vu on Oct 23, 2014 20:12:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 20:44:42 GMT -5
hard to say but i lean towards alone...
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Post by rational on Oct 24, 2014 9:12:24 GMT -5
I think probability would say yes. In an infinite universe it is pretty much a certainty but limiting it to the Milky Way - limits mess with the mathematics!
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Post by christiansburg on Oct 24, 2014 9:21:50 GMT -5
I think probability would say yes. In an infinite universe it is pretty much a certainty but limiting it to the Milky Way - limits mess with the mathematics! Haven't seen anyone out there yet nor heard any strange voices. I believe we are alone and unique.
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Post by rational on Oct 24, 2014 9:32:48 GMT -5
I think probability would say yes. In an infinite universe it is pretty much a certainty but limiting it to the Milky Way - limits mess with the mathematics! Haven't seen anyone out there yet nor heard any strange voices. I believe we are alone and unique. I think it would be a mistake to think that all life forms would be able to communicate. There is slime mold in the forest outside but I almost never hear it speaking to me. Although the other day it did say that there was no need to stick to my diet for the rest of the day! So I took it down to the coffee shop for some tea and cookies. Not everyone is accepting of different life forms as I had hoped!
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Post by snow on Oct 24, 2014 16:15:24 GMT -5
Depends on what you consider intelligent. Do they need to look and think like us? Or can we accept that a higher intelligence can come from something completely alien to our view of what life looks like? To think we are alone in an infinite universe doesn't make sense to me. Have we had communication with other intelligence, not likely. It's a big playground.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 24, 2014 16:54:37 GMT -5
If there are many universes and suns within them the likelyhood of life out in the galaxy is possible. Earth is unique created for us. I think earth looks pretty from space. We dont know enough yet. As for the milkyway. Who am I to comment. Dont know.
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Post by déjà vu on Oct 24, 2014 19:14:46 GMT -5
Nathan's quote
WE are NOT alone in the Universe! Homo Sapiens are one of MANY God's creation of beings in the Universe. Homo Sapiens is only 6000 yrs old race. There are many others created beings/ET races out there much older than Homo Sapiens.
the question I have, did Christ die for these other beings or are the Homo Sapiens the only ones given a chance for salvation?
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Post by Lee on Oct 24, 2014 21:27:17 GMT -5
Nathan's quote WE are NOT alone in the Universe! Homo Sapiens are one of MANY God's creation of beings in the Universe. Homo Sapiens is only 6000 yrs old race. There are many others created beings/ET races out there much older than Homo Sapiens. the question I have, did Christ die for these other beings or are the Homo Sapiens the only ones given a chance for salvation? If God and man represent some manner of constant in the universe, whether he exists on ten planets or ten million; if being "made in his image" actually means something, doesn't God "die" whenever mankind violates or denies his divine nature, origin, and calling? Is there another basis or notion to the concept of sin?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 24, 2014 22:29:50 GMT -5
Every time someone says that we are special & unique in some way, -us, our planet, our solar system, our galaxy,- I keep hearing an echo from the past when we had this geocentric idea of our earth was the center of every thing.
The sun, the stars, all rotated around US!
That idea had to be folded up & put on the shelf.
We still thought that we as humans were the center of life, not related to other forms of life.
Darwin upset that apple cart & some people still haven't forgiven him for making us aware of that.
So I would be careful about thinking we & our earth as being special & unique.
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Post by Lee on Oct 24, 2014 22:47:01 GMT -5
You must be very special then for being able to identify what isn't. But are you, that is you personally, that special? Might it be something bigger than you?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 25, 2014 0:18:23 GMT -5
You must be very special then for being able to identify what isn't. But are you, that is you personally, that special? Might it be something bigger than you? Can't you stand not being special & unique, Lee?
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Post by Lee on Oct 25, 2014 0:40:53 GMT -5
No, I do like myself as I am an advocate of our species, an ambassador of Christ as it were.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 25, 2014 0:51:34 GMT -5
No, I do like myself as I am an advocate of our species, an ambassador of Christ as it were. Ever wonder if those that believe in a god believe so because it gives them the feeling of being special & unique?
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Post by rational on Oct 25, 2014 7:58:50 GMT -5
If there are many universes and suns within them the likelyhood of life out in the galaxy is possible. Earth is unique created for us. I think earth looks pretty from space. We dont know enough yet. As for the milkyway. Who am I to comment. Dont know. Universe is a rather all-encompassing word. It indicates it is everything therefore excluding the possibility of there being something else. Given the size of the universe it is very doubtful that the earth is unique.
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Post by christiansburg on Oct 25, 2014 10:00:35 GMT -5
Haven't seen anyone out there yet nor heard any strange voices. I believe we are alone and unique. I think it would be a mistake to think that all life forms would be able to communicate. There is slime mold in the forest outside but I almost never hear it speaking to me. Although the other day it did say that there was no need to stick to my diet for the rest of the day! So I took it down to the coffee shop for some tea and cookies. Not everyone is accepting of different life forms as I had hoped! I guess I thought you were talking about intelligent life. I don't communicate with mold as it gives me an Asthma attacks. (lol)
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Post by christiansburg on Oct 25, 2014 10:01:45 GMT -5
Haven't seen anyone out there yet nor heard any strange voices. I believe we are alone and unique. I think it would be a mistake to think that all life forms would be able to communicate. There is slime mold in the forest outside but I almost never hear it speaking to me. Although the other day it did say that there was no need to stick to my diet for the rest of the day! So I took it down to the coffee shop for some tea and cookies. Not everyone is accepting of different life forms as I had hoped! I guess I thought you were talking about intelligent life. I don't communicate with mold as it gives me an Asthma attacks. (lol)
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Post by bubbles on Oct 25, 2014 12:27:06 GMT -5
If there are many universes and suns within them the likelyhood of life out in the galaxy is possible. Earth is unique created for us. I think earth looks pretty from space. We dont know enough yet. As for the milkyway. Who am I to comment. Dont know. Universe is a rather all-encompassing word. It indicates it is everything therefore excluding the possibility of there being something else. Given the size of the universe it is very doubtful that the earth is unique. True. There could be infinity. Imagine that! You think there could be other identical earths? There might be other planets with same composites for life (sun/water) but I would doubt any being identical. Hes too creative.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 25, 2014 12:28:31 GMT -5
No, I do like myself as I am an advocate of our species, an ambassador of Christ as it were. Ever wonder if those that believe in a god believe so because it gives them the feeling of being special & unique? Where did you get that silly idea from?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 25, 2014 13:43:51 GMT -5
Where did you get that silly idea from? I can't take credit for thinking of it first, bubbles!
It is a natural conclusion that comes when one seriously thinks about WHY it is that people will believe in all kinds of supernatural beings & occurrences that are in opposition to reality.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 25, 2014 17:30:23 GMT -5
Ive heard that some peoples reality is different to others.
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Post by xna on Oct 25, 2014 18:05:18 GMT -5
I don't believe we have found life outside of earth but with a universe with 100 octillion stars, or 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars it will take a while to turn over all the rocks. www.space.com/26078-how-many-stars-are-there.htmlen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 25, 2014 19:08:20 GMT -5
Ive heard that some peoples reality is different to others. I've HEARD a lot of things myself!
However, When I hear something, I automatically have a interior set of criteria that comes to play in whether I can believe it or not!
However the word "reality" is defined as:
reality
1. the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.
But then again, "reality" as a subject has been a vast study by philosophers.
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Post by SharonArnold on Oct 25, 2014 21:27:27 GMT -5
No, I do like myself as I am an advocate of our species, an ambassador of Christ as it were. Ever wonder if those that believe in a god believe so because it gives them the feeling of being special & unique? This is one of the biggest struggles I had when exiting 2X2ism. Giving up the idea that I was special and unique. However, as part of the exiting process, there was a definite sense of relief at no longer being either special or unique. Go figure.
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Post by SharonArnold on Oct 25, 2014 21:35:36 GMT -5
Ive heard that some peoples reality is different to others. I've HEARD a lot of things myself!
However, When I hear something, I automatically have a interior set of criteria that comes to play in whether I can believe it or not!
However the word "reality" is defined as:
reality
1. the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.
But then again, "reality" as a subject has been a vast study by philosophers.
I almost never think of the word "reality" without placing it in quotes - at least mentally. One of the leaders in the world of NLP once made the statement that if we were to enter into the "reality" of someone even really close to us, that it would be weirder than even the most extreme LSD trip I think this is probably the case.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 26, 2014 1:24:50 GMT -5
This is one of the biggest struggles I had when exiting 2X2ism. Giving up the idea that I was special and unique. However, as part of the exiting process, there was a definite sense of relief at no longer being either special or unique. Go figure. I can empathize with that feeling!
we thought the religion we were in was "special and unique" because it was the only WAY.
So it was hard to leave for that reason alone.
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Post by rational on Oct 26, 2014 7:23:21 GMT -5
I think it would be a mistake to think that all life forms would be able to communicate. There is slime mold in the forest outside but I almost never hear it speaking to me. Although the other day it did say that there was no need to stick to my diet for the rest of the day! So I took it down to the coffee shop for some tea and cookies. Not everyone is accepting of different life forms as I had hoped! I guess I thought you were talking about intelligent life. I don't communicate with mold as it gives me an Asthma attacks. (lol) Defining 'intelligent' might be the real task!
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Post by bubbles on Oct 26, 2014 7:50:05 GMT -5
Having good understanding/high mental capacity quick to comprehend.as persons or animals Sound mind.
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