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Post by rational on Nov 25, 2014 16:21:20 GMT -5
Isn't that your www site with links to YouTube?
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 25, 2014 16:58:08 GMT -5
Nathan, what are the workers views on them ?
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Post by snow on Nov 25, 2014 18:02:52 GMT -5
Nathan, the point being is that no one can make an informed decision based on You Tube videos at all. They need to be backed up with credible documentation. Posting a large number doesn't do that. The quantity of videos you post doesn't help in the least. They can all be wrong. Unless they are backed up they are useless and cannot be used to verify the truth of the matter. You don't seem to understand this fully. You think if a lot of people believe something then it's true. This is not the case. All of them can be wrong. Frank Stranges is wrong in so many ways, it would take hours to sift through what he has said and point out all the discrepancies and impossibilities of his claims. And, that just one of your sources. I have talked to hundreds, thousands of my customers where I work. I get MANY good feed backs from many of my customers, who had seen my 4 pages on Valiant Thor. They have passed my Valiant Thor site to their friends, families. Now, I have 23,000 viewers on Thor's page. My parents, brothers, sisters have seen it and we have great discussion.2x2friendsworkers.proboards.com/thread/98/angel-god-talked-eisenhower-1957I'm not questioning that you have a lot of believers Nathan. I'm sure you do. but just because they believe you doesn't make what you are posting true. Many of us have pointed out the reasons why these men can't be believed, but you just think you can believe because of the quantity of people that believe it? It just doesn't work that way.
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Post by rational on Nov 25, 2014 18:44:53 GMT -5
I have talked to hundreds, thousands of my customers where I work. I get MANY good feed backs from many of my customers, who had seen my 4 pages on Valiant Thor. They have passed my Valiant Thor site to their friends, families. Now, I have 23,000 viewers on Thor's page. My parents, brothers, sisters have seen it and we have great discussion. Facts are not determined by popularity. Facts are not determined by votes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 20:41:49 GMT -5
When I was a kid someone had a vote on Continental Drift. Can't recall the figure but it was, like, 90% against it.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 25, 2014 22:36:51 GMT -5
Nathan, all you have posted there is still from You Tube ! Yep, You Tube is all that nathan has!
There is no convincing him that You Tube can be fabricated just like a movie is made!
I still haven't come to any conclusion about why nathan posts all this crap.
I use to be concerned about his mental state.
Sometimes I think he is just yanking our chain and laughing at us for responding or maybe it is his way of getting attention.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 25, 2014 22:40:14 GMT -5
I have talked to hundreds, thousands of my customers where I work. I get MANY good feed backs from many of my customers, who had seen my 4 pages on Valiant Thor. They have passed my Valiant Thor site to their friends, families. Now, I have 23,000 viewers on Thor's page. My parents, brothers, sisters have seen it and we have great discussion.2x2friendsworkers.proboards.com/thread/98/angel-god-talked-eisenhower-1957 I'm not questioning that you have a lot of believers Nathan. I'm sure you do. but just because they believe you doesn't make what you are posting true. Many of us have pointed out the reasons why these men can't be believed, but you just think you can believe because of the quantity of people that believe it? It just doesn't work that way. Right, at one time in history the whole world believed that the earth was FLAT, but that many people believing it didn't make it true.
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Post by rational on Nov 25, 2014 23:49:39 GMT -5
Right, at one time in history the whole world believed that the earth was FLAT, but that many people believing it didn't make it true. This is not true. The people thought the world was flat and it was until their warped thinking bent the plane into a surface composed of points all more or less equidistant from a single point. It is know as the power of delusion and it is believed it can make anything true simply by repeating it many, many times. Even better if you find the source of some hoax and then have others quote that source and present it as their own and then re-post all of the quoted works and use that to demonstrate how many people have reached the same conclusion.
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Post by snow on Nov 26, 2014 12:48:10 GMT -5
I'm not questioning that you have a lot of believers Nathan. I'm sure you do. but just because they believe you doesn't make what you are posting true. Many of us have pointed out the reasons why these men can't be believed, but you just think you can believe because of the quantity of people that believe it? It just doesn't work that way. Snow, if it wasn't TRUE I wouldn't have posted. True or NOT I will let the readers decide for themselves. The readers can do their own study and research these things for themselves. I just want to spark a fire in the readers, and if they are truly want to know the truth then they can dig deeper and find the TRUTH for themselves. The TRUTH is OUT there! Ok, well keep searching!
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Post by rational on Nov 26, 2014 16:09:07 GMT -5
Snow, if it wasn't TRUE I wouldn't have posted. You posted a claim that Commander Valiant Thor had 6 fingers. You posted a photo of Commander Valiant Thor with clearly 5 fingers. One of those posts was not true. And now you have stated " ...if it wasn't TRUE I wouldn't have posted." which, in light of the above, is also not true. So NathanB, what are we to think?
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 26, 2014 17:18:16 GMT -5
NathanB Avatar 13 hours ago NathanB said: Roselyn T Avatar yesterday at 8:09am Roselyn T said: ~~ If you don't hear my reply to your questions right away! because I am at work... I will try to answer posts after I get home. Nathan said: ~~ Valiant Thor goal has been pointing people to follow Jesus. It's the Holy Spirit, who will guide and lead the SAVED to join the more perfect Way and Truth of Jesus (2x2) that is my experience and others 2x2s like myself. 1) Rose T. wrote: Nathan, Jesus is the Way ! There is no "more perfect Way & Truth of Jesus" that we have to JOIN ! If Val is pointing people to the workers why is he never mentioned, why don't the workers preach about those that Valiant Thor has pointed to the more perfect way? ~~ Most of the workers did NOT know Valiant Thor before. I know the workers read TMB... So, now they KNOW a little bit of Valiant Thor. 2) How many workers have you discussed Valiant Thor with & what were their opinions? ~~ I've not discuss about Valiant Thor with any of the worker, yet. I have told the friends about Valiant Thor. I know some of the workers, who read TMB have been reading about Valiant Thor's mission to earth the last two years. 3) Where is Valiant Thor mentioned in the Bible? Valiant Thor people are Venusians, they have been mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls and the in Old Testament. From the Dead Sea Scrolls: www.rense.com/general66/cave.htmScroll #3 Cave #3 "The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star/Venus Planet, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Genesis chapters 17,18,19 Scroll #3 Cave #3 "The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star/Venus Planet, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Genesis chapters 17,18,19. The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. "The smoke rose into the heaven and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth." "She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning." Nathan if you believe in Valiant Thor why haven't you told the workers about it or discussed it with them ? Could it be that you know how they will re-act ? The about you have shared about Lot does not mention Valiant Thor. rense.com Revelations Of The Dead Sea Scrolls 6-30-5 Note - The origin, authenticity and accuracy of these quotes in both translation and transliteration are unknown. - ed
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Post by rational on Nov 26, 2014 21:31:12 GMT -5
You posted a claim that Commander Valiant Thor had 6 fingers. You posted a photo of Commander Valiant Thor with clearly 5 fingers. One of those posts was not true. And now you have stated " ...if it wasn't TRUE I wouldn't have posted." which, in light of the above, is also not true. So NathanB, what are we to think? I believe in Phil S. statement about Valiant Thor with 6 fingers and 6 toes. Phil S. met Valiant Thor in person and has read Val. personal profiles from the Top Secret gov't documents. So do you believe Phil S. or the photo showing Commander Valiant Thor with 5 fingers? And they both can't be right. That photo has been shown to be doctored by several people. What Phil S provided was a fraud. But then so was his 'free energy' devices that he got people to invest in. The man is a confidence man and you trust his information without any validation. I personally would believe Commander Valiant Thor much quicker than Phil S. or Stranges.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 26, 2014 22:56:05 GMT -5
Nathan, you gave a link to info from Jeff Rense about the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Jeff Rense is an American radio talk-show host.
"Rense's radio program and website, Rense.com, cover subjects such as 9/11 conspiracy theories,[2] UFO reporting, paranormal phenomena, tracking of new diseases and possible resultant pandemics, environmental concerns (see chemtrails), animal rights, possible evidence of advanced ancient technology, geopolitical developments and emergent energy technologies, complementary and alternative medicine among other subjects." wiki
Jeff Rense has NO academic expertize in any of the information about/or interptation of the Dead Sea Scrolls. He certainly does not have the skills or expertise to translate the Dead Sea Scrolls.
So, everyone, -please pay no attention to Rense about the Dead Sea Scrolls.
There are many places that you can get legitimate information about them but it won't be Rense
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Post by rational on Nov 27, 2014 7:10:22 GMT -5
hmmmmm.... you believe the TMB Cmdr Thor who can't produce ONE REAL recent picture of his Family together? Are you kidding me? I thought you're brighter than that, rational. [/font] [/quote]Well, let's see NathanB. So far I have Commander Valiant Thor produced 1 photo of his wife. And Phil Schneider and Stranges - ZERO. So far Commander Valiant Thor produced a photo of his daughters. So far Schneider and Stranges - ZERO. Now who do you trust? Why don't you ask for the same photos from your other sources? Why not some photos from Venus by Stranges? Or from his 'trip to Venus'? Seems like that would have been a trip where a camera would have been packed. EG Burroughs can produce more evidence about aliens than either Stranges or Schneider - at least Burroughs admits he is writing fiction! The only photos you have at all are old blurry ones. How about ones taken while Stranges was 'in touch' with Commander Valiant Thor? Maybe Commander Valiant Thor will come back and tell us about those years and why Frank and Phil have no verifiable evidence of their contact. Maybe someone representing Phil Schneider will show up and explain why he took money for his 'free energy' machine and never delivered anything to his investors. I didn't read carefully but didn't Commander Valiant Thor state that the photos he had are stored in a format that we do not have the technology to reproduce today? I did see one very blurry representation with a family of 4 go by on one thread. Post the most recent photo you have of Valiant Thor and any member of his family and we will compare them. Or just post a photo of a member of his family, any member. That should show who is and who is not the fraud. I think Frank&Phil will come up short on that mission!
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Post by snow on Nov 27, 2014 14:28:38 GMT -5
TMB Val Thor picture of his wife and two daughters is a JOKE! I can't believe you fall for that, rational. You're not that slow are you?
You fall for TMB Val excuses for NOT showing a Clear picture of his Family? Rational wrote: "I didn't read carefully but didn't Cmdr Val Thor state that the photos he had are stored in a format that we do not have the technology to reproduce today? I did see one very blurry representation with a family of 4 go by on one thread."
That was NOT a picture! It's some dumb thing Val put it together, because he knows he can't produce one clear picture of his FAMILY! TMB Val is a JOKER! He is NOT REAL. AND you have been telling me I believe in BS. AND you fall for BS like TMB Val. WOW!
Here is a CLEAR picture of the REAL Valiant Thor wife Deena Thor looks like... Beautiful Blond... Val and Deena has one daughter NOT two.Actors played as Valiant Thor and his crews on Victor One Space ship. Valiant Thor, Denna/Wife Thor, Vice commanders Donn Thor, Zann, Teel www.strangeratthepentagon.com/short-film-cast.htmlHere are some clear picture of Valiant Thor, Donn Thor and vice commander Jill and Dr. Frank picture.podcastufo.com/blog/frank-stranges-friend-to-a-venusian/ Why are there actors Nathan. It is science fiction. Not real.
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Post by snow on Nov 27, 2014 18:06:13 GMT -5
Nathan, those are pictures of actors and actresses. Just because they use the words Valiant Thor in the movie doesn't mean he was a real character. It's fiction. So where is this picture of Valiant Thor, George W. Bush Sr. and Phil S's father?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 28, 2014 1:20:08 GMT -5
Nathan, those are pictures of actors and actresses. Just because they use the words Valiant Thor in the movie doesn't mean he was a real character. It's fiction. So where is this picture of Valiant Thor, George W. Bush Sr. and Phil S's father? ~~ Phil Schneider showed a picture of Valiant Thor, whom he met one time. A picture in 1943 showing Thor standing/working with his father and other USA scientists. Valiant Thor, has been working for the Pentagon 58 yrs. The picture was taken in 1943. Valiant Thor, has about 1200 I.Q. Speak over 100 human languages/aliens. Valiant Thor benevolent Being arrived/worked for US Navy in 1937-38. Life span 490 yrs. 6 finger 6 toes, One oversize heart, One giant lung, blood vessels are bigger, brain 200 centimeter larger than humans. At 2:14 Al Bielek, was one of the men in charge of the "Philadelphia experiment" 1942 showed a picture of Don Thor (Valiant Thor brother! ) sitting next to Phil Schneider's father Oscar at a military conference during WW II.... President George Bush's father was standing in the background of this military "Philadelphia experiment" in 1942= Time Traveler conference. www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXMR_1koxQY Nathan, this youtube shows a man is holding a picture & telling us who is in the picture but the picture is too far away to see any detail at all!
You call that evidence?
I tell you something though, Phil Schneider himself has those slanted eyes like are always depicted as alien's eyes! However, he's a bit stouter than aliens usually are depicted !
Maybe Phil Schneider is the alien feeding you the bunch of false information and the true alien is our own Cmdr. Val Thor here on our own TMB board!
What do you think about that?
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 28, 2014 1:55:23 GMT -5
Nathan where does it say this in the Bible ? Did you belong to a Pentecostal Church at some stage in your life ?
I believe the Creator of the Universe, Jesus Christ has chosen and called us together to reveal Himself through Valiant Thor so the world will be prepared for His 2nd Coming soon.
Above quote by Nathan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 3:09:11 GMT -5
Nathan where does it say this in the Bible ? Did you belong to a Pentecostal Church at some stage in your life ? I believe the Creator of the Universe, Jesus Christ has chosen and called us together to reveal Himself through Valiant Thor so the world will be prepared for His 2nd Coming soon. Above quote by Nathan. Valiant Thor is a great comforter for Nathan. Didn't Jesus promise to send us the Comforter? It is very noteworthy that the references which Mr Thor is alleged to have made with regards to God and Jesus are all very superficial and in no way represent a true portrayal of the Gospel Message, which would be the case if he was a genuine messenger from God. We are in the End Times and this is a matter, from whatever source, which appeals to peoples' spiritual beliefs with the intention of leading them astray from the true Word of God by getting them to to accept notions not consistent with God's Word. We are looking for aliens, not God! The purpose of it all is to get you to believe in alien life and shift your focus away from God. At best the whole thing is fantasy. At worst it is a part of the Devil's Deception. Sort of like the Trinity!
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 28, 2014 5:58:56 GMT -5
Nathan I think you have keep a lot of ideas from the Pentecostal Church. The way I see it IMO you are adding to what is written in the Bible to justify your beliefs in something that can never be proven.
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Post by snow on Nov 28, 2014 12:21:20 GMT -5
dmg, put your glasses on! I can see Val or Donn, Phil's father picture very clear from my 20 inches computer monitor. You can zoom in and make your picture bigger, dmg.
How about Here are pictures of four Venusians taken at UFO conference at Howard Menger's home in New Jersey, 1958.
Jill/blonde Vice commander, Donn Thor Vice Commander, Tanyia/black hair Vice Commander, and Valiant Thor the Commander. Can you see them clearly? www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2J6ATy5FRE Nathan you post the same pictures over and over and in all of them Thor has 5 fingers. Also, you can't zoom in on a picture that is on a You tube video. At least I don't know how. How would one do that Nathan.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 28, 2014 14:55:25 GMT -5
dmg, put your glasses on! I can see Val or Donn, Phil's father picture very clear from my 20 inches computer monitor. You can zoom in and make your picture bigger, dmg.
How about Here are pictures of four Venusians taken at UFO conference at Howard Menger's home in New Jersey, 1958.
Jill/blonde Vice commander, Donn Thor Vice Commander, Tanyia/black hair Vice Commander, and Valiant Thor the Commander. Can you see them clearly? www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2J6ATy5FRE Nathan, Why do you keep posting the same old pictures & youtubes videos over & over again when there is no more proof that they are genuine, factual or true any more that movies are real!
Movies can provide all kinds of scenerios with special effects that are not real!
You are either being taken in by a bunch of fraudulent people or you are just seeking attention. I have felt sorry for you in the past but I am simply not going to pay you the attention to you seem to crave.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 28, 2014 16:35:17 GMT -5
Nathan, Why do you keep posting the same old pictures & youtubes videos over & over again when there is no more proof that they are genuine, factual or true any more that movies are real!
Movies can provide all kinds of scenerios with special effects that are not real!
You are either being taken in by a bunch of fraudulent people or you are just seeking attention. I have felt sorry for you in the past but I am simply not going to pay you the attention to you seem to crave.
Don't mention my name in your post, or what I write then you won't hear from me. I don't want your attention. If people ask me questions then I will reply. Dmg, I hope this is the last time you will ignore me for good, Ok. You mentioned in the past MANY times, you have me on your ignore list but you keep on poking at me. I don't want to hear from you ever... Relax, nathan. You won't hear from me.. I've given you too much attention as it is.
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Post by rational on Nov 28, 2014 23:18:17 GMT -5
TMB Val Thor picture of his wife and two daughters is a JOKE! I can't believe you fall for that, rational. You're not that slow are you?
You fall for TMB Val excuses for NOT showing a Clear picture of his Family? Exactly what part of it do you feel makes it any less reliable than the other stuff you have been posting? Again, what do you feel makes this a fraud? You post that this is a true photo and you also posted that Phil S. said VT had 6 fingers. This URL has a photo of a person with 5 fingers. Your story is falling apart. If Phil S. lying or is it not a photo of VT?
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Post by rational on Nov 28, 2014 23:27:38 GMT -5
Because I believe in Phil S. and the gov't profile on Valiant Thor physical body. They examined, studied, and recorded Valiant Thor physical body when he stayed 3 years at the Pentagon, if you want to believe he has 5 fingers that is fine by me. It doesn't matter to me if Thor had 7 fingers, it doesn't CHANGE the FACT that he is REAL ET/being from Venus planet. If you believe VT has 6 fingers why do you post the photos from Stranges that show VT with 5 fingers and claim they are true? Here are the possibilities: 1) Either Philip Schneider is lying or Frank Stranges is lying. 2) They both are lying. 3) They both cannot be telling the truth. I select option 2.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 2:55:54 GMT -5
Nathan, we have already seen that the late Pastor Dr. Frank Stranges's denomination was the dollar. In fact lots of dollars! Does this not tell you something? He is up there with J K Rowling with her Harry Potter series, only she doesn't claim that HP is real!
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Post by snow on Nov 29, 2014 12:54:10 GMT -5
If you believe VT has 6 fingers why do you post the photos from Stranges that show VT with 5 fingers and claim they are true? Here are the possibilities: 1) Either Philip Schneider is lying or Frank Stranges is lying. 2) They both are lying. 3) They both cannot be telling the truth. I select option 2. 1) Phil Schneider had an IQ of 160 is classification a Genius. Phil Schneider was working as a government geologist with 17 years of experience in which he had been involved with NATO and U.S. gov't black projects. Eventually, gaining a level 3 clearance (Rhyolite 38), Phil was authorized to report directly to one of the three individuals: 1) The associated base commander where he was employed. 2) The Director of the CIA. 3) The President of the United States.
It was Phil S. who said VT had 6 fingers and 6 toes, VT Life span is 490 yrs, One oversize heart, One giant lung, blood vessels are bigger, copper oxide blood like an octopus, brain 200 centimeter larger than humans.
2) Dr. Frank S. said VT had no fingers/palm prints, no navel. Both had met VT in person.So why does he have only 5 in the pictures? Rational is right. Either the pictures are not of Valiant Thor, or Phil and Frank are lying. I vote for all 3 actually being true. You say it makes no difference to you whether he has 6 or 5 fingers. But I think it should matter. If he has only 5 fingers then you are believing lies made up by these men. If they are lying then it is altogether likely that VT doesn't exist either. And the trip to Venus is bogus and also a lie. That is why it's important to know for sure why the pictures clearly show 5 fingers on a person said to be VT. The story breaks down and should send up some red flags for you Nathan as to just how much truth is in any of what you have been believing. Someone is lying or the pictures are not VT. It's really quite simple.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 14:14:58 GMT -5
Nathan, we have already seen that the late Pastor Dr. Frank Stranges's denomination was the dollar. In fact lots of dollars! Does this not tell you something? He is up there with J K Rowling with her Harry Potter series, only she doesn't claim that HP is real! I believe Dr. Frank own little group the "Inner Circle" the Melchisedek is no longer existed after his death in 2008. In this little group of followers, he shared many teachings about the Lord Jesus Christ, Valiant Thor, and Venus planet which he visited, the Dead Sea Scrolls writings, his experiences with the US shadow gov't Men in Black. Where do you get your information about Dr. Frank S. own "Inner Circle" little group has lots of money? Can you show it us his group of finance records. Thanks. Our dear friend msew kindly provided this board with information that Dr Frank Stranges little sect was raking in 250,000 bucks a year. When msew says something....I listen!
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