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Post by rational on Nov 2, 2014 10:27:23 GMT -5
Nathan, do you have even one clear reference from the lips of the eminent gentleman Valiant Thor as to whom Jesus Christ really is? Surely this man, considering his alleged background, will have made many clear, direct statements about the true identity of Jesus Christ? A lack of clear statements can only point to a very suspect origin for this character. If he is genuine you will have no problem presenting his statements here. Forget about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Just the words of Mr Thor will do fine. You mean words not created by Stranges?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 10:35:52 GMT -5
Nathan, do you have even one clear reference from the lips of the eminent gentleman Valiant Thor as to whom Jesus Christ really is? Surely this man, considering his alleged background, will have made many clear, direct statements about the true identity of Jesus Christ? A lack of clear statements can only point to a very suspect origin for this character. If he is genuine you will have no problem presenting his statements here. Forget about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Just the words of Mr Thor will do fine. You mean words not created by Stranges? I don't mind if Stranges is directly quoting Mr Thor, as long as the statements clearly identify who Jesus is. I am getting weary attempting to get Nathan to present the information that I am asking. At the moment I will only be too glad to get some statements. I can then evaluate them if they ever do appear here. So far it appears that Mr Thor has deliberately avoided identifying the most important person this universe has ever seen, a bit strange really? Surely during all his earthbound years Mr Thor clearly stated whether Jesus is the Son of God, God the Son, a co-equal partner with God, etc, etc, etc. Even the devils had no problem quickly identifying that Jesus is the Son of God. There is something very strange if Mr Thor has not done likewise. So very strange that it deserves plural identity...i.e. "Stranges!"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 11:56:39 GMT -5
Nathan, do you have even one clear reference from the lips of the eminent gentleman Valiant Thor as to whom Jesus Christ really is? Surely this man, considering his alleged background, will have made many clear, direct statements about the true identity of Jesus Christ? A lack of clear statements can only point to a very suspect origin for this character. If he is genuine you will have no problem presenting his statements here. Forget about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Just the words of Mr Thor will do fine. ~~ Valiant Thor said, " There are LIFE/Beings/ET on MANY other Planets..."We (Pastor Frank and Valiant Thor) discussed the merits of Jesus Christ ... how He gave His Life freely... so that men could enjoy the benefits of eternal life. I questioned him about a Bible on Venus and he assured me that a personal unbroken fellowship with the "Author" did not necessitate the printing of a "book". He found it amusing that many theologians attempt to discredit both Jesus Christ and The Bible. The very God many have said is "dead" continues to lavish them with all good things. Perhaps they will, in time, permit the spark of Divine Light to again illuminate their troubled hearts. In answer to my question of what he thought of Jesus Christ, he said, "I know that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega of yours and everyone else faith. He today has assumed His rightful position as the ruler of the universe and is preparing a place and a time for all who are called by His Name to ascend far above the clouds to where His Power and Authority shall never again be disputed.Who has ever said that "God is dead?" Certainly nor theologians! The Bible makes it very clear that it was the Son of God who died on the cross, NOT God! Something wrong with Stranges recounting here! Ah but.... Does Mr Thor/Stranges put the "Alpha and Omega" into proper context? The beginning and end of our faith? Perhaps true in one sense but not in the context of its scriptural portrayal. Jesus did "not" assume his rightful position as ruler of the universe. It was his "inheritance!" Also Jesus was given all power and authority in heaven and earth "after" his resurrection, but at no time beforehand did he possess this. I think Mr Thor, if Dr Stranges is accurately quoting him, is anything but genuine. Commander Thor's Purpose In COMING to Earth: He stated that he came in order to help mankind return to the Lord. He spoke in positive terms . . . always with a smile on his face. He said God was displeased with the fact that mankind is farther away from Him than ever before, but that there is still a good chance for mankind to find salvation if he looks for it in the right place. Commander Thor said, "There are Presently 77 of us WALKING AMONG you In the United States. We are constantly Coming AND Going "www.galactic-server.net/rune/valthor2.htmlI asked him if there is life on other planets. His reply was, "There is life on MANY other planets of which people on Earth know nothing. There are more solar systems for which man has not even given God credit. There are MANY beings that have never transgressed the perfect laws of God . Man does not possess the right to condemn the whole of God's creation because he himself has broken the perfect laws of God through disobedience." www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/stranges.htmWhat have these statements to do with what I asked for? So far Mr Thor has proven to have provided very scant information about the most important man this universe has ever seen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 12:35:35 GMT -5
Nathan, I have never heard of any theologian claim that God is dead! That doesn't mean there are none, but I would find such a thing very strange. FWI I do believe in the spiritual realm created by God through his word (Jesus), whom he empowered by his own divine Spirit. However, this Thor character that you are presenting, if such a being ever existed, can only come from the wrong side of spirituality and is part of a great deception. You have presented me with nothing that would cause me to think otherwise.
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Post by Mary on Nov 2, 2014 16:13:39 GMT -5
What is wrong with the comment Nathan? What is my belief got to do with attending meetings? Are you saying I can't express my belief? What will you SAY when my belief on the existence angels of God and ET are RIGHT?Your Christian beliefs and interpretation of the Bible and following certain teachers who are at odds with professing beliefs as extreme as yours are all to do with attending meetings, especially when they claim they are of one mind and spirit. People have been put out for lesser things. When people have to distort and make up things such as the Strange guy and also what the Dead Sea scrolls say then they will not be found to be right. Only honesty is right. Distorting the truth is never right.
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Post by rational on Nov 2, 2014 17:20:31 GMT -5
I was quoting you, NathanB: I think you might have slipped and for once in your life told the truth. Let me clarify it.... Valiant Thor has a human body and he has copper oxide blood of like an octopus according to Phil S. So, Rational... you do watch/listen to Ytube! :D I read the bit about the copper based blood. NathanB, you did not clarify anything. You changed what you said. Just admit you made a mistake. Now there is the question - How did Phil S. know about the blood? Since the blood is used to transport oxygen where does the oxygen on Venus come from?
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Post by Mary on Nov 2, 2014 17:56:15 GMT -5
I know plenty about these things so no need to tell me what I know and don't know -just that I do not believe them. Also how does that relate to fellowshipping with those of a different belief when they claim to be of one mind.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 14, 2014 12:36:46 GMT -5
INDEED! I got mad at God about the 3rd week and told Him that if He would He could stop this pestilence with his little pinky nail! Then I got to feeling guilty about getting mad at God, I had to apologize...but you know I got the feeling that He understood my anger and held nothing against me. I told Him not to hang me out like he did Job, telling Satan he could do whatever he wanted to do with me but to spare my life! Strange part of it, my Job's comforters all want to think these bugs are all in my mind...I told them after being bitten a few thousand times, that yes, those bugs became something to fear esp. after then leaving their eggs in my ear causing it to swell so tight I cried with the pain and then the little ones leaving their little beaks in me that feel like broken-off needles! They have to be Satan's handiwork! Yes, there are times that people who believe In God do wonder why God has forsaken them! Just like Job did, but to curse Him won't do a thing for us....in the long run! I never could understand why all the emphasis was only on Job. Sure, Job survived in the long run & prospered. However, what about all the other people that died along the way? And only because Satan & God were betting on one man,Job. Did those other lives not mean anything?
To Job they counted a lot...Job made sure they all had clothing, and food and shelter! This was one of the things his 3 comforters threw back into his face......and Job's grief started before God had opened Job up to Satan to all "but take his life"....Job's grief nearly killed him....I think as humans we too could empathize with that kind of grief when all our children, cattle and servants and friends etc were killed or died within one day so to speak!! I thin Job's grief made him feel like there was little to live for and that would have been a thought for him as he had been the leader and caretaker for them all! Now in all truth, those others you speak of in job's story, once they're dead then there is little a living human can do, other then grieve for them, is there?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 14, 2014 12:39:32 GMT -5
If there really were a Mr Thor, his message would be about jesus, and shared with regular people. And IF there was such apowerful man as Mr. Thor, would he not at least have known the REAK truth about Jesus' marriage to Mary Magdalene and Jesus' 2 sons? Strange people are reading this in the "Lost Gospel" but even stranger is that Jesus' name isn't ever mentioned....so why would anyone with intelligence want to believe such stories if a person's name is not included?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 15, 2014 15:01:11 GMT -5
I never could understand why all the emphasis was only on Job. Sure, Job survived in the long run & prospered. However, what about all the other people that died along the way? And only because Satan & God were betting on one man, Job. Did those other lives not mean anything?
To Job they counted a lot...Job made sure they all had clothing, and food and shelter! This was one of the things his 3 comforters threw back into his face......and Job's grief started before God had opened Job up to Satan to all "but take his life"....Job's grief nearly killed him....I think as humans we too could empathize with that kind of grief when all our children, cattle and servants and friends etc were killed or died within one day so to speak!! I thin Job's grief made him feel like there was little to live for and that would have been a thought for him as he had been the leader and caretaker for them all! Now in all truth, those others you speak of in job's story, once they're dead then there is little a living human can do, other then grieve for them, is there? I wasn't talking about whether Job cared for his "children, cattle and servants and friends!"
I meant why didn't GOD care about the killing of Job's "children, cattle and servants and friends!"
And all just so God could win a bet with Satan!
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Post by bitterbetty on Dec 2, 2014 12:52:43 GMT -5
I haven't forsaken you!
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