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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 29, 2014 15:04:15 GMT -5
I followed the paper trail to your quote:~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls) and indeed it went back to Rense
rense.com Of The Dead Sea ScrollsIndeed amazingly enough, I didn't find any Dead Sea Scroll information coming from Valiant Thor !
Can you show me where the Great "I AM" came from Jeff Rense website. Thanks. I googled your post: ~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls) & that is where I found: The True Revelations Of The Dead Sea Scrolls - Rense www.rense.com/general66/cave.htm
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 29, 2014 15:45:05 GMT -5
Oh my! How stupid of me!
Of course! what was I thinking!
I should have known that you wouldn't be researching what anyone said other Dr. Frank E. Stranges!
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Post by snow on Oct 29, 2014 18:17:39 GMT -5
Snow wrote: Have you actually read the Dead Sea Scrolls. The ones that have been translated and available that is? NOT yet. I only heard Dr. Stranges portion of the dead Sea Scrolls and I've posted his finding on my message board. I might order Dr. Frank Stranges 3 DVDs on the Dead Sea Scrolls writings revealed by Valiant Thor to him. I think Dr. Stranges have many interesting information on the Dead Sea Scrolls writings than what is presented to us. I believe whoever in charge of the Dead Sea Scrolls today are withholding a lot of information amazing from the public.I will write to Dr. Stranges' niece and get the 3 DVDs of her uncle Dead Sea Scrolls. I will let her know about my message board about Valiant Thor and her dad life and work.I would suggest that you save your money and just read them. The ones that have nothing whatsoever to do with Dr. Stranges. Then you know you are getting the truth and you save money at the same time. Here is a link to an online pdf site where you can read them for free. www.thechristianidentityforum.net/downloads/Complete-Scrolls.pdf or if you would rather a Catholic site here is a link to that. www.documentacatholicaomnia.eu/03d/sine-data,_Dead_See_Scrolls,_The_Qumran_Library,_EN.pdf
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Post by snow on Oct 30, 2014 12:28:07 GMT -5
Thanks, I have been reading Rense.com Dead Sea Scrolls.... Very interesting stuff.... he backed up what Dr. Stranges has been saying about his understanding of the Dead Sea Scrolls.Why would you read Rense and not the real thing?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 30, 2014 14:07:04 GMT -5
Thanks, I have been reading Rense.com Dead Sea Scrolls.... Very interesting stuff.... he backed up what Dr. Stranges has been saying about his understanding of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Why would you read Rense and not the real thing? I would imagine that Nathan would rather read Jeff Rense's stuff rather than legitimate biblical scholars because it fits in with the delusional conspiracies that Nathan already believes.
Jeff Rense has a radio show, Here are some of his topics and previous guests. "Two recurring themes on the Rense show are a general mistrust of the establishment (ranging from the right-wing to President Barack Obama), and a range of theories about who was behind the September 11 attacks on the New York World Trade Center in 2001.
Regular guests include conspiracy theorists, geopolitical experts, ufologists, ...."
"One of Rense's favourite guests is David Duke and paranormal expert Brad Steiger, who is also a personal friend of Rense....." "David Ernest Duke is an American White nationalist, writer, right-wing politician, and a former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, and former Republican Louisiana State Representative."
"Brad Steiger is an American author of fiction and nonfiction works on the paranormal, spirituality, UFOs, true crime, and biographies." from wiki
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 30, 2014 14:18:58 GMT -5
Why would you read Rense and not the real thing? Rense is the real thing.... I compare his finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls and Dr. Stranges finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls are much alike, I have posted the comparison from both of them on my message board.
I try to read your 1st website but I can't because my computer wouldn't let me do it. It takes too much space... The second Catholic site is in Spanish, sorry... I can't read Spanish.
I would love to read if my computer would allow me.
OMG!
Nathan, have you "trained" your computer to be delusional also? Or is it the other way round, -it has caused you to be delusional?
You mean your computer can bring up all that conspiracy stuff but not the real stuff?
Maybe you should get an exorcist in & get rid of that *^%# devil from your computer.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 30, 2014 14:21:58 GMT -5
You are so nasty dmich.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 30, 2014 15:11:46 GMT -5
I would imagine that Nathan would rather read Jeff Rense's stuff rather than legitimate biblical scholars because it fits in with the delusional conspiracies that Nathan already believes.
Jeff Rense has a radio show, Here are some of his topics and previous guests. "Two recurring themes on the Rense show are a general mistrust of the establishment (ranging from the right-wing to President Barack Obama), and a range of theories about who was behind the September 11 attacks on the New York World Trade Center in 2001.
It's True that 9/11 is an inside job within our own USA gov't! to create an outrage from the world, to give the Bush administration the power to go after the Terrorists/Bin Ladin, and after anti-leaders/Sadaam H. and Col. Kadafi,, Hugo C. hatred for USA and Israel.9/11 tragedy was an INSIDE Job - to create the Patriot Act, the lost Billions in gold bars at WTC, Creation of homeland security, War in Iraq See? Was I right?
Right on target!
Nathan would prefer to investigate only those theories that agrees with his own!
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Post by rational on Oct 30, 2014 16:06:58 GMT -5
Thanks, I have been reading Rense.com Dead Sea Scrolls.... Very interesting stuff.... he backed up what Dr. Stranges has been saying about his understanding of the Dead Sea Scrolls.Why would you read Rense and not the real thing? It says what you want to hear?
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Post by snow on Oct 30, 2014 17:31:09 GMT -5
Rense is the real thing.... I compare his finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls and Dr. Stranges finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls are much alike, I have posted the comparison from both of them on my message board.
I try to read your 1st website but I can't because my computer wouldn't let me do it. It takes too much space... The second Catholic site is in Spanish, sorry... I can't read Spanish.
I would love to read if my computer would allow me.
OMG!
Nathan, have you "trained" your computer to be delusional also? Or is it the other way round, -it has caused you to be delusional?
You mean your computer can bring up all that conspiracy stuff but not the real stuff?
Maybe you should get an exorcist in & get rid of that *^%# devil from your computer.
I will have to try again then won't I Nathan. Can't have you unable to access truthful sites. There is no download on the first one, so you're computer should handle it the same as any other web page. The other one I will replace for you. This link will take you to discussion about the scrolls as they stand. Not a reading of them though: dss.collections.imj.org.il/This link is a bit more informative about what is in the scrolls. Lots of good information for you here. www.deadseascrolls.org.il/?locale=en_USHere is a link to the Gnostic Library which also does not need to be downloaded and will be just fine for your computer. www.gnosis.org/library/scroll.htm?sess=28d3ac2e47bb4491621bf99cf633560dHappy reading Nathan.
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Post by snow on Oct 30, 2014 18:24:40 GMT -5
Thanks, snow.... The latest links are working fine.... I am reading it right now. You're welcome
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 30, 2014 22:23:37 GMT -5
Thanks, snow.... The latest links are working fine.... I am reading it right now. Glad to hear it, Nathan!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 2:59:35 GMT -5
Nathan....I want to find out if Mr Valiant Thor is fictitious, very real, or if he is one of Satan's great deceptions. With your vast arsenal of resources about the character Valiant Thor and who he is purported to be, I have one simple test with which I will easily conclude a very satisfactory answer. I have appealed to you several times now, but have been ignored on each occasion. Please present me with a list of quotes from Mr Thor regarding exactly whom Jesus Christ is. You have an excellent pedigree of swiftly presenting references on other topics, so this should be no problem.
I wish to study Mr Thor's clear references to whom Jesus Christ is. If he is genuine and real, then he will have gone to some length to instruct us as he mission to Earth was so important he could hardly have overlooked the all important question for mankind.
Alternatively, Mr Thor may be very real, but one of Satan's ministers of light. In which case he will have avoided a truthful explanation of whom Jesus is.
A third option is that he is purely fictitious.
Now please assist me in coming to a correct conclusion about Mr Thor. At the moment I consider the options for this character that I have presennted, in reverse order!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 12:56:43 GMT -5
Thanks Nathan. At least my options are narrowed down to just two now.
1) Valiant Thor is a fictitious character, or
2) He is one of Satan's ministers of light. I base this option on the apparent fact that he believes/states (according to Dr Stranges) that Jesus IS God! That's good enough for me. Fiction or false, it's one or the other.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 13:36:29 GMT -5
Ram, you can believe whatever you want... It doesn't change the TRUTH who Valiant Thor is, God's own ambassador sent from Venus to help humanity return to the Lord God Jesus.
Nathan, let's split this 50/50?
I will accept the first half of your statement!
So far I have seen nothing which indicates to me that this character represents, either fictionally or non-fictionally, the only true and living God.
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Post by snow on Oct 31, 2014 15:58:33 GMT -5
Nathan where are you getting this stuff!! The dead sea scrolls weren't written about Jesus. They are basically OT writings not much different than what is in the bible. Some books that never made the bible. But they aren't about Jesus or early Christianity. Here is a link to what is in the scrolls and where they were found. Pay attention to #22. www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html
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Post by Mary on Oct 31, 2014 16:38:02 GMT -5
Nathan, the Muslims say 9/11 was an inside job, so you are buying into that.
The name Stranges seems strange to me and maybe a hint that the whole thing is strange and not the truth. Who are you really worshipping Nathan? This man or Jesus? Beware of false prophets.
Your quote of the dead sea scrolls does not seem to line up with the Bible. It gives too much about a certain topic of controversy all summarised into the space of a few paragraphs.
Nathan, do the workers believe in all this stuff. If not then maybe you are in the wrong church.
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Post by snow on Oct 31, 2014 16:57:23 GMT -5
Nathan, the Muslims say 9/11 was an inside job, so you are buying into that. The name Stranges seems strange to me and maybe a hint that the whole thing is strange and not the truth. Who are you really worshipping Nathan? This man or Jesus? Beware of false prophets. Your quote of the dead sea scrolls does not seem to line up with the Bible. It gives too much about a certain topic of controversy all summarised into the space of a few paragraphs. Nathan, do the workers believe in all this stuff. If not then maybe you are in the wrong church. The Church of Thor does have a ring to it doesn't it? And conveniently Thor is also a God.
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Post by Mary on Oct 31, 2014 17:46:58 GMT -5
THOR: Wikipedia
In Norse mythology, Thor is a hammer-wielding god associated with thunder, lightning, storms, oak trees, strength, the protection of mankind, and also hallowing, healing and fertility. --- stemming from a Common Germanic *Þunraz (meaning "thunder").
Ultimately stemming from Proto-Indo-European religion, Thor is a prominently mentioned god throughout the recorded history of the Germanic peoples, from the Roman occupation of regions of Germania, to the tribal expansions of the Migration Period, to his high popularity during the Viking Age, when, in the face of the process of the Christianization of Scandinavia, emblems of his hammer, Mjölnir, were worn in defiance and Norse pagan personal names containing the name of the god bear witness to his popularity. Into the modern period, Thor continued to be acknowledged in rural folklore throughout Germanic regions. Thor is frequently referred to in place names, the day of the week Thursday ("Thor's day"; Old English Thunresdaeg, Thunor's day); German "Donnerstag" (Donar's day), bears his name, and names stemming from the pagan period containing his own continue to be used today.
In Norse mythology, largely recorded in Iceland from traditional material stemming from Scandinavia, numerous tales and information about Thor are provided. In these sources, Thor bears at least fourteen names, is the husband of the golden-haired goddess Sif, is the lover of the jötunn Járnsaxa, and is generally described as fierce-eyed, red-haired and red-bearded
In other places Thor is from the World Of Darkness.
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Post by snow on Oct 31, 2014 18:27:42 GMT -5
Yes, God did give us brains. Let us use them wisely.
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Post by snow on Oct 31, 2014 18:30:48 GMT -5
Nathan where are you getting this stuff!! The dead sea scrolls weren't written about Jesus. They are basically OT writings not much different than what is in the bible. Some books that never made the bible. But they aren't about Jesus or early Christianity. Here is a link to what is in the scrolls and where they were found. Pay attention to #22. www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html Most of the public around the world has been deceived about the Dead Sea Scrolls... Those in charge/Rockefeller family have withheld some of the most important messages from God in the Dead Sea Scrolls. #22 They have LIED to the Public, Snow.Dead Sea Scrolls:From www.rense.com/general66/cave.htmThe following, as deciphered from caves 1, 3, 4 and 7, are deemed sensitive and remain unavailable for public inspection by those who seek to control the Truth for their own devices. These texts remain the property and jurisdiction, of the elite, who secreted them away to the four (4) major religious organizations and other various agencies as they were found beginning in 1947. Those being the Jordanian controlled Rockefeller Museum in Eastern Jerusalem, the Department of Antiquity in Israel, the American School of Oriental Research, the Rockefeller Foundation and Israeli Biblical of Archeology. Other scrolls and remnants remain in the strict possession of the Vatican and Royal Museum at Leningrad under extreme security measures. The educated scholars, and those involved with deciphering the scrolls proclaimed the texts, "contained no valid information that would shed any additional light whatsoever on the advancement of Christianity in Jerusalem." Their claims, to this day, denounce the possibility of any intrinsic value, historically or otherwise being placed on the scrolls. And that is exactly what can be obtained from the Internet or through the Library of Congress. Parchments and fragments that are handpicked, and safe, being of no significant, intrinsic value.
In reality the scrolls reveal secrets regarding the literature of the Messianic movement in Palestine, secrets concerning The Great Flood account, spiritual visions and revelations, exciting experiences including personal accounts of those who knew and practiced the truth, revelations regarding space, contact and communication with those of other worlds and unique experiences with Angelic beings. Additional scrolls shed light on, "The unlawful execution of a certain Messianic leader in Jerusalem," which continues to cause much contention and controversy to this day. These revelations remain too hot for the religious hierarchy and other authorities to handle and the reason behind the immense and deliberate cloak of secrecy. Why? Because such information was/is, "too powerful or complicated for the common man to understand, interpret or appreciate." It is no coincidence that these truths have become available, accessible by anyone without limitation or censorship. They are the Words of the Almighty Creator as well as in the personage of our Lord and Master Jesus Christ.
Again, what would be the point of controlling the information in the dead sea scrolls? What do they have to gain?
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Post by Mary on Oct 31, 2014 20:09:34 GMT -5
What is wrong with the comment Nathan?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 31, 2014 21:10:38 GMT -5
This thread was about Jesus but you have turned it into your own religious beliefs Nathan. Bring back the TMB. I am surprised they let you into meetings as I thought they claimed they were of one mind and spirit. ~~ The above comment is NOT so nice. I agree with Mary.
I also am surprised they let you take part in meetings, Nathan; -with the kinds of alien beliefs that you proclaim.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 1, 2014 13:37:24 GMT -5
What is wrong with the comment Nathan? What is my belief got to do with attending meetings? Are you saying I can't express my belief? What will you SAY when my belief on the existence angels of God and ET are RIGHT? Of course, you can express my belief, Nathan. I'm just surprised that they lt you express it in a meeting.
I'm not bothering about what to say if your belief might turn out to be true, -because I'm quite sure that it will never happen.
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Post by snow on Nov 1, 2014 15:23:20 GMT -5
Again, what would be the point of controlling the information in the dead sea scrolls? What do they have to gain? ~~ To keep public in the dark, NOT knowing who Jesus Christ really is... And they don't want us to know the existence of the angels of God are here on the earth to help and assist humanity to fight Satan and their hybrid demigod race on the earth.Nathan, with all the religions that are far older than Christianity, why do you believe that these ET's are trying to hide stuff only from the bible. If the RCC controlled what people read for centuries as you state, what makes you think the bible, which is a compilation done by the RCC is right at all? How do we know that the gospels that they left out aren't the truth instead? Why haven't ET's tried to discredit and change what Hinduism or Buddhism says? Do you really think that reptilians and ET's are interested in Christianity and Christ?
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Post by rational on Nov 1, 2014 22:29:41 GMT -5
Valiant Thor is FOR REAL! He is NOT science fiction character. He has a human body flesh and blood just like us humans. Valiant Thor is NOT Satan's minister. Please, choose your words wisely. [/font][/quote]Do you know humans who have, as Stranges claimed, copper oxide blood like an octopus?
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Post by rational on Nov 2, 2014 10:20:26 GMT -5
Do you know humans who have, as Stranges claimed, copper oxide blood like an octopus? It wasn't Dr. Frank Stranges who said that but Phil Schneider. Are you talking about Valiant Thor, who has copper oxide blood like an octopus, right?
Dr. Frank Stranges said Valiant Thor is created being, he has no finger prints,no palm prints, and no navel or belly button. Valiant Thor is human looking ET but he is NOT a homo Sapien.I was quoting you, NathanB: Valiant Thor is FOR REAL! He is NOT science fiction character. He has a human body flesh and blood just like us humans. Valiant Thor is NOT Satan's minister. Please, choose your words wisely. I think you might have slipped and for once in your life told the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 10:23:51 GMT -5
Nathan, do you have even one clear reference from the lips of the eminent gentleman Valiant Thor as to whom Jesus Christ really is?
Surely this man, considering his alleged background, will have made many clear, direct statements about the true identity of Jesus Christ?
A lack of clear statements can only point to a very suspect origin for this character. If he is genuine you will have no problem presenting his statements here. Forget about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Just the words of Mr Thor will do fine.
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