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Post by xna on Oct 3, 2014 18:34:29 GMT -5
Shakras? I didnt know what it was. I thought it might have been god? I believe Chi and Shakras are the same thing but called it differently in different languages.www.bing.com/images/search?q=chakras%3f&qpvt=Shakras%3f&FORM=IGREChi is an inner energy within us. Sometimes we see Halo on the angels, Jesus, Mary and eastern teachers Buddha paintings.Demonstrating the Power of Chi from a Kung Fu master. Power drill couldn't penetrate his head! www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOXnjtSRYSk God put the Chi energy within us. The brain is an amazing thing by using the Chi energy it can heal the body.Chi and Shakras - I'm not buying. Now E-Meter's - that's the ticket. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-meter
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Post by xna on Oct 3, 2014 20:48:13 GMT -5
Well, you can believe whatever you want. The Chinese Shaolin kung Fu masters have used the Chi powers/inner energy for thousands of years. ~ NathanB I believe you in that; 1. I believe you and many others believe it. 2. It has been believed for a very long time. How do you reconcile this cultural belief of special powers with what the bible says? Work of the Holy Spirit??
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Post by xna on Oct 3, 2014 21:17:03 GMT -5
I believe you in that; 1. I believe you and many others believe it. 2. It has been believed for a very long time. How do you reconcile this cultural belief of special powers with what the bible says? Work of the Holy Spirit?? The Shaolin monks use the Chi energy for meditation, Calmness, a restful state for the mind and body. As Christians we pray in private and in public as our own spiritual Chi/inner strength, a state of peace and quietness for the mind, body and the soul.
I was interested in your take on the bible's teaching regarding "other powers" from those who do not follow Christ like the Buddhist Shaolin - war monks. Is the source of their power (which I don't believe) according to the bible from; the powers of darkness or light?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 3, 2014 22:12:12 GMT -5
Sometimes I could shake you. NO. Didnt get migranes. Afternoon mission. Remembered something else too. In summer I squinted a lot in the sun one reason was everything had light beams people trees cars so I would squint to view the perspective properly. Yes dimmichgood u can acknowledge im peculiar.it matters not a jot. I Can't help it, Bubbles. Where you may find an incident as something strange & falling into some kind of supernatural; I'm a nurse & I see what could be a medical issue.
No one said that you are peculiar! Don't take it personal.
Absence seizures (formerly known as petit mal)affect more children and would fit in with what you experienced as a teenager.
You also say you, "Remembered something else too. In summer I squinted a lot in the sun one reason was everything had light beams people trees cars so I would squint to view the perspective properly." That might also fit in
Some people experience an aura – a partial seizure preceding a generalized seizure – which is often seen as a warning sign. An aura may be emotional (e.g. fear, anxiety), physical (e.g. dizziness, nausea), or sensory (e.g. tingling or crawling sensation on the skin, spots or colours before the eyes, strange tastes or smells).
BTW, -these Absence seizures are so brief that they often happen without the person even knowing it and no one else notices it either.
Please smooth your feathers back down.
I meant No offense
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 3, 2014 22:18:10 GMT -5
Oh, xna! I do hope that you saying you believe in E-Meter's! I hope you are kidding.
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Post by rational on Oct 4, 2014 0:41:51 GMT -5
Let's just address two recorded cases: Abraham said he heard a voice that told him to kill his son so he obeyed what he heard. Boyce Singleton Jr. heard god tell him to kill his pregnant wife so he obeyed what he heard. He was more successful in his task than Abraham.Both claimed god told them to kill their children. Was Satan speaking to Abraham? You can exchange the Boyce story with the story of the woman who heard god tell her to kill her children to save them. There are many examples. Remember, god works in mysterious ways. God's mind is not man's mind. Man cannot comprehand the works of god. If you believe that people hear the voice of god how can you discount one but not the other? ~~ Like I wrote the above post. God's voice leads and draw people closer to Him NOT away from Him. Satan's voice leads people away from God will/way and it ends in eternal death. The outcome turned out differently between the story of Abraham and Boyce Singleton Jr..... God didn't want Abraham to kill/sacrifice Isaac at all. God was given Abraham/Issac and humanity a glimpse into His plan of Salvation through the Death/Sacrifice of His ONLY begotten Son/Jesus on Calvary's Cross.The voice in both cases was "Kill your child for me." And in both cases the parent was willing to kill the child. Did Abraham know he would be told to stop? Nope. So in his heart he was a murderer. Yet you see this as a positive quality.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 4, 2014 2:04:27 GMT -5
Yes dimmichgood u can acknowledge im peculiar.it matters not a jot. Sounds like Synesthesia"... many of the individuals claiming to see the aura of people – traditionally called healers or quacks – actually present the neuropsychological phenomenon known as synesthesia." In neurological terms, synesthesia is due to cross-wiring in the brain of some people called synesthetes. In other words, synesthetes have more synaptic connections than “normal” people. www.sci-news.com/medicine/article00298.htmlI wouldnt have named it aura. A woman clairaudiant once told me she could see my aura. I didnt appreciate it at the time because we had been told those things were demonic. What is normal to me is not normal to others and thats fine I can accept that.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 4, 2014 2:15:04 GMT -5
I Can't help it, Bubbles. Where you may find an incident as something strange & falling into some kind of supernatural; I'm a nurse & I see what could be a medical issue.
No one said that you are peculiar! Don't take it personal.
Absence seizures (formerly known as petit mal)affect more children and would fit in with what you experienced as a teenager.
You also say you, "Remembered something else too. In summer I squinted a lot in the sun one reason was everything had light beams people trees cars so I would squint to view the perspective properly." That might also fit in
Some people experience an aura – a partial seizure preceding a generalized seizure – which is often seen as a warning sign. An aura may be emotional (e.g. fear, anxiety), physical (e.g. dizziness, nausea), or sensory (e.g. tingling or crawling sensation on the skin, spots or colours before the eyes, strange tastes or smells).
BTW, -these Absence seizures are so brief that they often happen without the person even knowing it and no one else notices it either.
Please smooth your feathers back down.
I meant No offense
Come on woman. How can I not take it personal it is about what happened to me. Not the neighbor. You have just added to the list. Lets see. Schizo you suggested. Not true never diagnosed. Delusional. Not true never diagnosed. Infact never been diagnosed with any mental illness. Sorry to prove you wrong or disappoint. Petite mal? Havent had seisures either.
Im very down to earth I just happen to be shown things and have done since 1989.
Btw cant find feathers too stroke YSC
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Post by xna on Oct 4, 2014 2:17:54 GMT -5
Oh, xna! I do hope that you saying you believe in E-Meter's! I hope you are kidding.
The e-meter says I'm kidding. ;-)
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Post by bubbles on Oct 4, 2014 2:23:07 GMT -5
Shakras? I didnt know what it was. I thought it might have been god? I believe Chi and Shakras are the same thing but called it differently in different languages.www.bing.com/images/search?q=chakras%3f&qpvt=Shakras%3f&FORM=IGREChi is an inner energy within us. Sometimes we see Halo on the angels, Jesus, Mary and eastern teachers Buddha paintings.Demonstrating the Power of Chi from a Kung Fu master. Power drill couldn't penetrate his head! www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOXnjtSRYSk God put the Chi energy within us. The brain is an amazing thing by using the Chi energy it can heal the body.Nate Ive heard of non christians experiencing what I would call entering the glory of God/ abiding in the secret place/bathing in his presence which is tranquil total peace, filled with joy. I know my heart rate was lower. I felt it was /is a place of healing. How do you interpret that with the non christian having a similar experience just using different terminology?
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Post by bubbles on Oct 4, 2014 9:57:56 GMT -5
Nate Thanks.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 4, 2014 10:02:18 GMT -5
Oh, xna! I do hope that you saying you believe in E-Meter's! I hope you are kidding.
The e-meter says I'm kidding. ;-) Sounds like torture!
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Post by xna on Oct 4, 2014 10:10:57 GMT -5
The e-meter says I'm kidding. ;-) Sounds like torture! Attachments:
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Post by bubbles on Oct 4, 2014 10:15:33 GMT -5
I did work it out xna..
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Post by matisse on Oct 4, 2014 10:17:39 GMT -5
I believe Chi and Shakras are the same thing but called it differently in different languages.www.bing.com/images/search?q=chakras%3f&qpvt=Shakras%3f&FORM=IGREChi is an inner energy within us. Sometimes we see Halo on the angels, Jesus, Mary and eastern teachers Buddha paintings.Demonstrating the Power of Chi from a Kung Fu master. Power drill couldn't penetrate his head! www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOXnjtSRYSk God put the Chi energy within us. The brain is an amazing thing by using the Chi energy it can heal the body. Nate Ive heard of non christians experiencing what I would call entering the glory of God/ abiding in the secret place/bathing in his presence which is tranquil total peace, filled with joy. I know my heart rate was lower. I felt it was /is a place of healing. How do you interpret that with the non christian having a similar experience just using different terminology? I'd look at concentrations of various "feel good" neurotransmitters in the brain.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 4, 2014 10:21:59 GMT -5
Endorphins? Seratonin?
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Post by rational on Oct 4, 2014 11:03:23 GMT -5
Sounds like Synesthesia"... many of the individuals claiming to see the aura of people – traditionally called healers or quacks – actually present the neuropsychological phenomenon known as synesthesia." In neurological terms, synesthesia is due to cross-wiring in the brain of some people called synesthetes. In other words, synesthetes have more synaptic connections than “normal” people. www.sci-news.com/medicine/article00298.htmlAs a teenager with perhaps too much free time, at a time when the hood of a car could be opened without getting into the car (although few people, if any locked their cars) we would do a little creative wiring for our "friends. Step on the break and you also got to hear your horn. Turn on your lights and the windscreen wipers jumped into action. Open your door and not only did the dome light illuminate your way out but the horn heralded your departure from the car. Applying on the brake and hearing the horn is as meaningful as looking at a person and seeing their aura. I once saw a documentary on television where a person was brought in to read the auras of 10 people from the audience. He described them in glowing and very exact terms. Was very explicit in saying how bright they were. Some of the auras described were 2-4 feet over the heads of the subjects. Each had a dominate color and a definite color arrangement. When they turned around he could identify them by their auras. And the the white sheet went up, obscuring the subjects just to the top of their head. Their forms could be seen through the white sheet. And although the auras were able to penetrate their clothes and were described as bright, oddly enough they could not be seen through or penetrate the sheet. And the color above their heads... When tasked with identifying the subjects the success rate was 0%. I have no idea if the person really thought he was seeing an aura. He could have been a con man who just got caught. Of he could have been suffering from a brain malfunction and thought he had special powers. The point is there are ways to test for these 'special' powers. A nine year old was able to demonstrate with a simple experiment that people who practice therapeutic touch and claim to feel and manipulate a patients energy field as a cure were unable to even detect the presence of a person two inches from the hands.
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Post by xna on Oct 4, 2014 12:06:08 GMT -5
I did work it out xna.. I think those e-meter boxes should have a warning label; Beware of sites like www.quackwatch.com
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Post by rational on Oct 4, 2014 15:04:12 GMT -5
~~ The good quality is to Trust in God's voice no matter what because the outcome bring good result. God SEES from the beginning to the End. God the Father and Jesus is the Alpha and Omega. The First and Last. The devil can't see the future, or offer Eternal life to anyone. Jesus said the Devil is a murder from beginning. You are skirting the question, Nathan. Both men heard the voice telling them to kill. They both followed the orders/voice. They were both obeying. Neither could see the end game. What makes one a godly man going to kill and the other a psychopathic killer going to kill? You believe in god. Could the difference be that Abraham was not aware of the concept of auditory hallucinations.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 4, 2014 15:22:07 GMT -5
Sounds like Synesthesia"... many of the individuals claiming to see the aura of people – traditionally called healers or quacks – actually present the neuropsychological phenomenon known as synesthesia." In neurological terms, synesthesia is due to cross-wiring in the brain of some people called synesthetes. In other words, synesthetes have more synaptic connections than “normal” people. www.sci-news.com/medicine/article00298.htmlAs a teenager with perhaps too much free time, at a time when the hood of a car could be opened without getting into the car (although few people, if any locked their cars) we would do a little creative wiring for our "friends. Step on the break and you also got to hear your horn. Turn on your lights and the windscreen wipers jumped into action. Open your door and not only did the dome light illuminate your way out but the horn heralded your departure from the car. Applying on the brake and hearing the horn is as meaningful as looking at a person and seeing their aura. I once saw a documentary on television where a person was brought in to read the auras of 10 people from the audience. He described them in glowing and very exact terms. Was very explicit in saying how bright they were. Some of the auras described were 2-4 feet over the heads of the subjects. Each had a dominate color and a definite color arrangement. When they turned around he could identify them by their auras. And the the white sheet went up, obscuring the subjects just to the top of their head. Their forms could be seen through the white sheet. And although the auras were able to penetrate their clothes and were described as bright, oddly enough they could not be seen through or penetrate the sheet. And the color above their heads... When tasked with identifying the subjects the success rate was 0%. I have no idea if the person really thought he was seeing an aura. He could have been a con man who just got caught. Of he could have been suffering from a brain malfunction and thought he had special powers. The point is there are ways to test for these 'special' powers. A nine year old was able to demonstrate with a simple experiment that people who practice therapeutic touch and claim to feel and manipulate a patients energy field as a cure were unable to even detect the presence of a person two inches from the hands. A doco on energy fields stated some extend 6-8feet around the body. Do you think this is why we know when someone is in the room but didnt hear them entre?
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Post by bubbles on Oct 4, 2014 15:24:44 GMT -5
~~ The good quality is to Trust in God's voice no matter what because the outcome bring good result. God SEES from the beginning to the End. God the Father and Jesus is the Alpha and Omega. The First and Last. The devil can't see the future, or offer Eternal life to anyone. Jesus said the Devil is a murder from beginning. You are skirting the question, Nathan. Both men heard the voice telling them to kill. They both followed the orders/voice. They were both obeying. Neither could see the end game. What makes one a godly man going to kill and the other a psychopathic killer going to kill? You believe in god. Could the difference be that Abraham was not aware of the concept of auditory hallucinations. You so take the fun out of everything and turn into mental disaster.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 5, 2014 1:36:53 GMT -5
I did work it out xna.. I think those e-meter boxes should have a warning label; Beware of sites like www.quackwatch.comI hate electric shocks. Had a mischievous cousin loved playing with batteries told me just hold that for me...zing!!!!! Id leap with fright while he rolled on the ground laughing.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 5, 2014 1:38:17 GMT -5
Back to topic no I dont think workers are modern day apostles
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Post by Mary on Oct 5, 2014 2:55:46 GMT -5
Abraham did not see God. There was a cloud between him and God.
It is more correct to say many people stay true to God's calling. Not just workers from your denomination Nathan. At a guess I would say there is a far greater drop out of workers leaving the ministry than in God's true church. i.e. The Body of Christ - Christian denominations. This is just a guess of drop outs from ministry but for those who claim God is calling them it appears with the number of drop outs it was not so.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 5, 2014 6:18:27 GMT -5
Back to topic no I dont think workers are modern day apostles Many workers know it's their calling and they want to stay true to God's calling. It's their calling! Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle and separated unto the Gospel of God. Romans 1:7 To all who are in Rome, beloved of God and called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.There are many reasons I cant agree nate. Apostles were more than messengers. They planted and fathered churches. I wrote a list somewhere else.
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Post by rational on Oct 5, 2014 14:20:12 GMT -5
A doco on energy fields stated some extend 6-8feet around the body. Do you think this is why we know when someone is in the room but didnt hear them entre? The point is, you don't know. The experiment done by the 9-year old demonstrated that even at 2 inches away the people who claimed to be able to manipulate these unobservable/unmeasurable energy fields could not tell if a person was there or not. Energy is basically the ability to do work. That means if it exists it can be measured. I doubt the documentary you saw was able to measure the so-called energy fields in any way.
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Post by Mary on Oct 5, 2014 15:46:20 GMT -5
Moses did not see God's face Nathan. God appears in all different ways - in dreams, etc. God appeared to Moses in the burning bush and in a cloud. He heard his voice but did not see his face. The Bible is clear that no man has seen God and lived. Does the Father look human? Do you really think the Father is a human walking around in heaven as a man. I thought he was a glorious being.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 5, 2014 16:08:29 GMT -5
A doco on energy fields stated some extend 6-8feet around the body. Do you think this is why we know when someone is in the room but didnt hear them entre? The point is, you don't know. The experiment done by the 9-year old demonstrated that even at 2 inches away the people who claimed to be able to manipulate these unobservable/unmeasurable energy fields could not tell if a person was there or not. Energy is basically the ability to do work. That means if it exists it can be measured. I doubt the documentary you saw was able to measure the so-called energy fields in any way. Think he was a european scientist.
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