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Post by rjkee on Feb 22, 2013 8:22:05 GMT -5
The Police Service of Northern Ireland are currently investigating allegations of CSA by the former worker, Noel Tanner. The investigating officer is Ms Grace McGonigle at Strand Road Police Station, Londonderry. If you have any information which may assist the investigations, please contact Detective McGonigle on +44 (0) 28 7186 1355. She is particularly keen to hear from Tanner's victims.
Best regards
Robert
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Post by LITTLEPADDY on Mar 21, 2013 15:03:49 GMT -5
Glad to here that investigations are being carried out
I'm not a victim but my loyalty and support is with the victims
It is not easy at all but if you were a victim or can be of any help PLEASE COME FORWARD
We don't want anything similar to happen now or in the future because someone feels the Friends and Workers will be able to cover it up and keep children / people quiet
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Post by rjkee on Apr 27, 2014 4:30:15 GMT -5
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Post by rjkee on Jun 17, 2016 5:20:47 GMT -5
I have heard a rumour that Noel Tanner has been arrested. Does anyone know if this true? Robert
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Post by rjkee on Jul 8, 2016 3:14:16 GMT -5
The Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) has informed me that yesterdayTanner was extradited from the Republic of Ireland. He was taken to Strabane Magistrates Court and has been released on bail. He's to appear in court again next Friday.
Robert
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Post by whiterabbit on Jul 8, 2016 16:09:23 GMT -5
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Post by rjkee on Jul 9, 2016 5:03:39 GMT -5
A Preliminary Enquiry will be held next Friday at the Magistrates Court. This is where the judge reviews the case and determines if there is a case to answer. If so, he will refer it to the Crown Court for Arraignment and set a date for this to proceed. It is normally within 3/4 weeks of PE. Arraignment is held at the Crown Court and is where he is given the chance to enter his plea. If he pleads not guilty, a date will then be set for trial.
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Post by whiterabbit on Jul 9, 2016 12:41:10 GMT -5
So we await developments Assume he will have to stay in northern ireland during his bail period
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Post by rjkee on Jul 16, 2016 6:16:57 GMT -5
Arraignment has been set for 6th October at Dungannon Court.
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Post by whiterabbit on Jul 16, 2016 7:04:52 GMT -5
Good to hear how it went in court yesterday The wait goes on till october
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Post by jondough on Jul 20, 2016 12:57:51 GMT -5
A Preliminary Enquiry will be held next Friday at the Magistrates Court. This is where the judge reviews the case and determines if there is a case to answer. If so, he will refer it to the Crown Court for Arraignment and set a date for this to proceed. It is normally within 3/4 weeks of PE. Arraignment is held at the Crown Court and is where he is given the chance to enter his plea. If he pleads not guilty, a date will then be set for trial. This would make no sense in the US. Maybe its different in Ireland. In the US, if someone pleads guilty, there is no trial.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2016 13:02:12 GMT -5
A Preliminary Enquiry will be held next Friday at the Magistrates Court. This is where the judge reviews the case and determines if there is a case to answer. If so, he will refer it to the Crown Court for Arraignment and set a date for this to proceed. It is normally within 3/4 weeks of PE. Arraignment is held at the Crown Court and is where he is given the chance to enter his plea. If he pleads not guilty, a date will then be set for trial. This would make no sense in the US. Maybe its different in Ireland. In the US, if someone pleads guilty, there is no trial. Maybe they're referring to sentencing hearings.
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Post by jondough on Jul 20, 2016 14:30:06 GMT -5
This would make no sense in the US. Maybe its different in Ireland. In the US, if someone pleads guilty, there is no trial. Maybe they're referring to sentencing hearings. I just re-read this. He said if he pleads "not guilty". Which makes sense. Need to quit trying to do this on my phone 😜
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 14:53:18 GMT -5
This would make no sense in the US. Maybe its different in Ireland. In the US, if someone pleads guilty, there is no trial. Maybe they're referring to sentencing hearings. You are correct.
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Post by whiterabbit on Jul 26, 2016 3:11:38 GMT -5
Over the years more interest in keeping it quiet about the ABUSER than caring for the ABUSED Thus we are where we are now
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 4:53:33 GMT -5
Over the years more interest in keeping it quiet about the ABUSER than caring for the ABUSED Thus we are where we are now That amounts to a very unfair, unfortunate and ungodlly situation IMO?
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Post by whiterabbit on Jul 28, 2016 15:37:27 GMT -5
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Post by CherieKropp on Jul 29, 2016 7:04:18 GMT -5
sad but thats the true situation YOU WOULD THINK TRUTH WOULD HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD THAN THAT but roll on october and see what happens You'd think...especially in view of: Matthew 5:20: For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Save
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Post by rational on Jul 31, 2016 16:27:38 GMT -5
sad but thats the true situation YOU WOULD THINK TRUTH WOULD HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD THAN THAT but roll on october and see what happens It is fair to say that until the 2x2 church publishes guidelines and safe ministry requirements for its ministers that it clearly does not believe that dealing with Child Sexual Abuse and protecting children and vulnerable people is important or should be high priority. The following safe ministry program (link follows)which many churches I know are part of is a good example of what can be done when church leadership are focussed on protecting children and vulnerable people. safeministry.org.au/It is good to see that this organization realizes that reporting is necessary if knowledge or suspicion of abuse is reported by a third party. Any child abuse that a minister or leader becomes aware of must be reported to the relevant authorities. A person may become aware of abuse because they have observed indicators of abuse, another person has informed them of their concerns for a child or a child has told them they are being abused. (Emphasis added) (from - safeministry.org.au/) This differs sharply from this opinion: If person "A" hears from person "B" that person "B" suspects person "C" is abusing children, then person "A" is not obliged to report the suspicion of person "B".......only their own suspicion. At least that is how it works in our jurisdiction. Maybe in other places it is different.
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Post by whiterabbit on Aug 4, 2016 16:07:48 GMT -5
NEGLECTING AND FAILING TO CARE FOR THE ABUSED AND DAMAGED PERSON IS SO SO WRONG AND LEADS ON TO MORE SERIOUS TROUBLE DOWN THE ROad
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Post by rational on Aug 4, 2016 17:00:48 GMT -5
NEGLECTING AND FAILING TO CARE FOR THE ABUSED AND DAMAGED PERSON IS SO SO WRONG AND LEADS ON TO MORE SERIOUS TROUBLE DOWN THE ROAD WHO IN TRUTH COULD STAND OVER THAT Are you assuming that the reason some people abuse others is because they they themselves were abused and somehow damaged? I think you are correct - all people who have been abused or damaged need to be looked after by those who are able. In the cases of CSA it is very possible that both the abuser and the abused are victims who need the care and understanding of others.
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Post by whiterabbit on Aug 5, 2016 3:22:39 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Aug 5, 2016 8:26:16 GMT -5
your reply has a ring of protecting the abuser CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE IS ALWAYS WRONG and especially by a person in a position of trust staying in your home My reply has the ring of dealing with the issues of both the victim and the abuser. I don't believe I have ever said or implied that child abuse in any form was not wrong. When it comes to child abuse, especially sexual child abuse, there are no people given an pass because they are individuals some put in a position of trust. The issue facing parents is how to prevent their children from being abused without teaching them afraid of everyone.
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Post by whiterabbit on Aug 8, 2016 5:27:29 GMT -5
a lot to be learned how to deal with thiS issue Wonder have friends/workers considered the affect the present court case has on the VICTIMS
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Post by whiterabbit on Aug 14, 2016 15:02:00 GMT -5
I know
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Post by whiterabbit on Sept 3, 2016 7:29:21 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Sept 5, 2016 11:41:41 GMT -5
Terrible the position victims are left in .On there own NO CARE ,LOVE,OR HELP This is so wrong. Do they not have family or friends?
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Post by whiterabbit on Sept 5, 2016 13:08:25 GMT -5
Rational You obviously have no understanding of the effects of sexual abuse and the support victims need
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