Guarp
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Post by Guarp on Jun 16, 2004 11:11:22 GMT -5
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Post by HA on Jun 16, 2004 11:47:38 GMT -5
Dank u wel mijn vriend !
Dat een antwoorden voor geen naam is ?
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Guarp
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Post by Guarp on Jun 16, 2004 14:22:40 GMT -5
Dank u wel mijn vriend ! Dat een antwoorden voor geen naam is ? Ik denk het niet.. For those who don't understand Dutch here.. it's not that I want to offend someone by it. I just found it funny to read that Americans stopped growing.. Trouwens, leuk om eens wat Nederlands te lezen op dit forum!
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Post by Translation on Jun 17, 2004 2:41:41 GMT -5
Dank u wel mijn vriend ! Dat een antwoorden voor geen naam is ? Thanks you, however, my friend! That answer for no name is?
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Post by HA on Jun 17, 2004 2:43:47 GMT -5
Ik sprecht beetje Nederlands maar ik zijn beter in Engels en Frans ...
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Post by Translation on Jun 17, 2004 2:43:53 GMT -5
Ik denk het niet.. Trouwens, leuk om eens wat Nederlands te lezen op dit forum! I do not think it... As a matter of fact, nicely Dutch once what to read on this forum! www.worldlingo.com/wl/translate
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Post by HA on Jun 17, 2004 5:32:37 GMT -5
Europeans outstrip Americans Omdat Europeanen spreken vreemde talen
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Post by Robb Klaty on Jun 17, 2004 8:44:27 GMT -5
I am sure the non US riders in the Tour de France wish your hypothesis were true in their case. For the past few years, an American (Lance Armstrong), has riden away from the "superior" Euros in the worlds greatest test of phsical strenth and conditioning. ;D
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Post by inatent on Jun 17, 2004 9:20:54 GMT -5
I am sure the non US riders in the Tour de France wish your hypothesis were true in their case. For the past few years, an American (Lance Armstrong), has riden away from the "superior" Euros in the worlds greatest test of phsical strenth and conditioning. ;D Oh, is that what this discussion is about? I thought "outstrip" had something to do with taking off their clothes! ;D
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Post by hinds not signed in on Jun 18, 2004 19:33:52 GMT -5
I have insurance. Maybe many of those uninsure in the USA don't have a job that offers it. Maybe they don't even have a job. Better that they move on to a position in a company that offers benifits.
Everyone in the USA makes their own way, and that includes working for a company that provides the benifits needed - if you don't have them, you either pay for them yourself, or get a position where you will have them.
I don't think people on welfare here should get a free ride - they need to be back at work.
I am not talking about those who are handicapped or perhaps even the elderly. I am talking about able bodied men and woman. And especially those who choose to birth children and depend on the rest of the country to support thier stupid choice of having children while not having the means to rear them.
My opinion. And please, get out there and VOTE.
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Post by Robb Klaty on Jun 18, 2004 23:31:41 GMT -5
Here is an idea: Those that can't make it in the US and have no family or church support can freely leave and move to any socialist utopia in the world. Robb
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Post by Puzzeled on Jun 19, 2004 12:13:53 GMT -5
Here is an idea: Those that can't make it in the US and have no family or church support can freely leave and move to any socialist utopia in the world. Robb "freely"? What a joke! What planet are you from? Silly Robb.
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Post by Clear View on Jun 19, 2004 20:52:44 GMT -5
Here is an idea: Those that can't make it in the US and have no family or church support can freely leave and move to any socialist utopia in the world. Robb Compassion at its best. If they are down and out give them the boot.
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Post by Robb Klaty on Jun 19, 2004 23:02:41 GMT -5
Typical liberal ignorance... You assume that I offer no help to those around me. This is a typical assumption of many who do not see charity and support as part of their duty but rather the job of the government. Btw, what could be more compassionate than giving people the choice to flee the cruel, harsh US in favor of a wonderful socialist utopia? The point is that no one is leaving are they? Robb
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Post by inatent on Jun 19, 2004 23:49:28 GMT -5
. . . .The point is that no one is leaving are they? Robb Of course not! There is no better place in the world for people who like to complain than the United States. Isn't the right to complain somewhere in our constitution? Unfortunately, people in other societies misinterpret this as discontentment. They don't understand that we complain because we enjoy it so much! iantent
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Guarp
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Post by Guarp on Jun 20, 2004 6:56:16 GMT -5
Unfortunately, people in other societies misinterpret this as discontentment. They don't understand that we complain because we enjoy it so much! That's a good point it sounds pretty familiar to me. Even though we might have an excellent health care system, people love to complain about it! When I hear stories about health care in third world countries I sometimes feel very ashamed..
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Post by I see on Jun 20, 2004 7:58:31 GMT -5
Typical liberal ignorance... Robb You are very quick to judge and label people.
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Post by HA on Jun 20, 2004 9:33:27 GMT -5
I have relatives in the USA who look forward to their retirement in order to return to Europe - and have their pension forwarded there.
So some people do want and do come out of «paradise»
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Post by hinds on Jun 20, 2004 15:57:54 GMT -5
Well, many who retire here who imigrated do NOT leave the USA - more than do leave.
I guess it's an individual choice. ;D
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Post by Robb Klaty on Jun 21, 2004 0:46:43 GMT -5
Why would they want to use a capatalist pension? Why not just take advantage of the welfare program in their favorite socialist utopia? Then they could just doante their pension to the poor.
Robb
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Post by HA on Jun 21, 2004 2:33:40 GMT -5
Because they are smart enough to get the best elements of both systems ...
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Post by HA on Jun 21, 2004 11:06:44 GMT -5
French judge rejects Armstrong bid to insert doping denial
PARIS (AFP) - A French judge on Monday rejected a bid by American cycling star Lance Armstrong to insert a denial against accusations of doping against him published in a book which was released last week.
Armstrong, 33, seeking a record sixth consecutive Tour de France in July, has vowed to take legal action over the new book "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong" which alleges he used banned drugs.
The book focuses on statements attributed to Emma O'Reilly, a physiotherapist who worked with Armstrong from 1998-2000. O'Reilly claims Armstrong used the banned blood booster EPO.
During a hearing last Friday Armstrong's lawyers slammed the book as "sensationalist" and an attack on the rider's character.
Lawyers acting on behalf of French publishers La Martiniere defended the book and argued that finding in favour of the plaintiff would signal the end of investigative journalism.
La Martiniere's lawyer Arnault de Montbrial told AFP that his clients were "very satisfied" with the judge's decision.
He said that Armstrong had been ordered to pay a symbolic 1 euro in damages to the defendants for "abusive procedure".
"The judge understood perfectly that by condemning Mr Armstrong for abusive practice that the interested party had tried to respond using the judicial channel to the journalists questions which he had refused to answer," de Montbrial claimed.
O'Reilly also alleges that Armstrong asked her to dispose of bags with syringes after the 1998 Tour of Holland and that in May 1999, as Armstrong trained in the Pyrenees, she was asked to drive to Spain to pick up drugs which she handed to Armstrong in a parking lot.
O'Reilly claims in the book Armstrong asked her to use makeup to cover up syringe marks on his arm at a Tour de France medical checkup in 1999.
Armstrong, a Texan, has neither tested positive for banned substances nor faced any bans over doping and has always strenuously denied taking any such products.
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Guarp
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Post by Guarp on Jun 21, 2004 13:33:09 GMT -5
French judge rejects Armstrong bid to insert doping denialPARIS (AFP) - A French judge on Monday rejected a bid by American cycling star Lance Armstrong to insert a denial against accusations of doping against him published in a book which was released last week. Armstrong, 33, seeking a record sixth consecutive Tour de France in July, has vowed to take legal action over the new book "L.A. Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong" which alleges he used banned drugs. Whatever is the truth in this case I believe Armstrong has been playing it fair. I admire him for his strength, his style and the way he survived cancer. He's one of the greatest cyclists ever known and I respect him for that. Doping doesn't give you the extraordinairy qualities he's got. Every professional cyclist riding in the Tour is using medications, which is something you have to accept in a race like that. Armstrong is a great cyclist and he deserves better then accusations like this.
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Post by Robb Klaty on Jun 21, 2004 17:25:58 GMT -5
I often wonder if Lance is not simply the embodyment and icon of the American spirit in the eyes of the French press. How else can you explain the non-stop unsubstantiated allegations against Lance over the last 5 years by the French press? Do they hate Armstrong or the country and spirit he represents?
I suggest the French press give it up and start asking the real tough questions like, why don't the French riders train as hard as Armstrong?
Robb
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Guarp
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Post by Guarp on Jun 21, 2004 18:09:33 GMT -5
I suggest the French press give it up and start asking the real tough questions like, why don't the French riders train as hard as Armstrong? I don't think it's just training. You have the qualities for it in you, or you don't. Last year German Jan Ullrich showed that with just a minimal training you can get really close to victory. Ullrich has been training harder then ever this year. Besides that, he showed a good performance in the Tour of Switserland, so I see him as a serious opponent for Lance this year again. Lance himself didn't really acted upon his qualities in the Dauphine Liberte actually. He lost a time-trial and didn't win the race, which he did for the last two years. It seems he's lagging behind in time trials.. which used to be his main strength. Usually the European press isn't so harsh on Lance, actually. He is often praised and respected for his excellent Tour-de-France-preparation and performance. Lately, there's not that much pure quality among French cyclists. Maybe that's making the French press jealous... for up-to-date Tour-news and pics see www.cyclingnews.com
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Post by Robb Klaty on Jun 22, 2004 8:19:00 GMT -5
Guarp,
Yes, I agree that it is not JUST training.
However you seem to agree that training is a big component...
It will be interesting to see how it goes with the big mountain time trial this year.
Robb
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Guarp
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Post by Guarp on Jun 27, 2004 16:39:30 GMT -5
Yes, I agree that it is not JUST training. However you seem to agree that training is a big component... Well, Ullrich and a serious Tour preparation is something we've not seen before
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Post by Robb Klaty on Jun 27, 2004 16:49:55 GMT -5
Not unless you consider drinking a few beers to be "Tour preparation". Robb
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