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Post by mrtindrucvionging on Apr 14, 2006 21:01:28 GMT -5
I was having a polite discussion with HRL. You commented on me personally, and so I asked you for clarification. You don't want to clarify. Fine If you would read my reply, I claimed it was an inward work that will rather quickly evidence itself. God did not recreate only part of us- there is a struggle, but we are now new creations, pleasing to Him. God did not regenerate us as fragmented beings, but we are now wholly pleasing to Him in Christ. God is not a secret. You refer to private prayer as a secret work of God- no, that is our work towards Him. He indwells us and so is always working in and through those whom He has chosen to. The inner man/outer man dichotomy is often used to excuse sin, or disobedience, or to rationalize the lacking evidence of our regeneration. HRL did not state this, and i do not accuse him of that, nor you. But there are many believers that read here, all of us at different places of understanding, learning, growth. If I nitpick it is to avoid wrong, unbiblical ideas to trip up newer believers. If you want to attribute it to something else, well that doesn't change anything really. You make comments about a "man in my position"... what position, vertical? Do you mean me as a "pastor ?" Karl Well, positions really do need to be taken into consideration on this board; as how are we have any kind of POINT OF REFERENCE if there is no postion at all. Taking a stand of utmost priority in our daily walk in life.
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Post by hrl on May 26, 2006 15:24:23 GMT -5
Poor Karl. Seems like he is always getting picked on...
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Post by to Karl from HRL on Jun 5, 2006 13:58:25 GMT -5
Aside from your judgment of my character and motives, and noting of my apparent shallowness- also my self deception and vanity, how is what you ultimately stated different from what I said- that the work of God evidences itself externally? Karl Okay, I'm in the mood to take this on today...:: Let's talk about how God is evident externally and I am committed to keeping the conversation civil and discreet and kind. ;;:: To me, there is a certain spirit that I see in people who have the Holy Spirit inside. Sometimes, you see someone and you just see this wonderful beautiful countenence on their face and in their manner. Maybe it's in their eyes; maybe it's in their smile. Maybe it is an expression of peace. Then, you might notice their mannerisms; their posture. Are they humble, respectful? Is that it? Hmm. Then they speak and the tone of their voice and the things they say tell you more and more about what is in their soul. The funny thing is:: how a person dresses is a reflection of who they are;;:: [exceptions, of course], ;; also a reflection of where they are and what they are doing. It takes guts to be yourself sometimes in a group, rather than to conform. It takes being an authentic child of God and becoming someone that is truly molded by God, rather than by tradition and conformity. Human tendency is to want to fit in with the world when we are in the world and/or then to fit in with whatever group we happen to be with. But what is it that God wants us to do/be? That is the most important question.
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