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Post by rol otto on Feb 25, 2006 11:13:52 GMT -5
a labor of love, without effort, love will die. real love does not glory in works, it just does them without boasting. many contracts we enter, have a ''grace'' period, in which the effort/work of the contract is under, but the reality is, that when the ''grace'' period expires, if there is no progress or efforts/works. Then we are in default of the contract, as the grace remitted during the'grace' period will save us during ''gracetimeperiod'', but will not fulfil the obligations inherint to the contract: [[''obligations''/commands/duties/instructions...]]] Just some musings, fwiw.....imho......whatever...
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Post by Brick on Feb 25, 2006 11:27:58 GMT -5
Love is a verb. When we love, we are doing something. Love is also a noun (I feel love for...the cute brick next to me.). Did you ever fall in love with someone and keep it inside? Felt like crap, didn't it? If you were like me, you did it out of fear of rejection, or the person was spoken for, or else you were not available. But if you KNEW that you would not be rejected, you would actively love and express your love, no?
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Post by justamom on Feb 25, 2006 11:49:11 GMT -5
But if you KNEW that you would not be rejected, you would actively love and express your love, no? That is so very true! For me the best part of my life right now is knowing that my partner knows just how much I love her by my words and even more by my actions.
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Post by quest on Feb 25, 2006 12:20:53 GMT -5
The modern marriage/arrangement/whatever seems to revolve around the concept of, ''as long as I 'feel' like it''.
As in, I will perform the duty of caring for someone, as long as I 'feel' like it, BUT, when the 'feeling' is gone, then we/I tend to dismiss the obligation of doing anything to keep the love alive. [because the 'feel like it' phase no longer exists, and we/I do not understand the fact that the feeling is FED by our actions/duties/ETC. hmmmmmmm, that is my perception on the high divorce rates we see in many areas?
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Post by to quest on Feb 25, 2006 12:35:47 GMT -5
The modern marriage/arrangement/whatever seems to revolve around the concept of, ''as long as I 'feel' like it''. As in, I will perform the duty of caring for someone, as long as I 'feel' like it, BUT, when the 'feeling' is gone, then we/I tend to dismiss the obligation of doing anything to keep the love alive. [because the 'feel like it' phase no longer exists, and we/I do not understand the fact that the feeling is FED by our actions/duties/ETC. hmmmmmmm, that is my perception on the high divorce rates we see in many areas? You do not seem sure if that is your perception since you end the sentence with a question mark.
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Post by four on Feb 25, 2006 12:38:13 GMT -5
theres no love in the 2x2s, only HATE
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Post by justamom on Feb 25, 2006 12:42:09 GMT -5
I do think you are right on that our feelings are fed by our actions.... I also think that our feelings are fed by the actions of the other person in the relationship. In any relationship the work to keep the love alive is 100% on both sides..... when the percentage starts to slip and one person has to pick up the 'slack' that is when things tend to fall apart. IMHO
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Post by quest on Feb 25, 2006 13:04:17 GMT -5
I do think you are right on that our feelings are fed by our actions.... I also think that our feelings are fed by the actions of the other person in the relationship. In any relationship the work to keep the love alive is 100% on both sides..... when the percentage starts to slip and one person has to pick up the 'slack' that is when things tend to fall apart. IMHO And then someone starts 'keeping score'> who's doing the most, who's getting jealous, who is the most human, who is the most selfish, hey....wouldn't it be nice to keep track of the good that others do, instead I tend to think of all the negative issues...
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Post by justamom on Feb 25, 2006 13:07:14 GMT -5
And then someone starts 'keeping score'> who's doing the most, who's getting jealous, who is the most human, who is the most selfish, hey....wouldn't it be nice to keep track of the good that others do, instead I tend to think of all the negative issues... Yup, I agree... that is why in my current relationship we are only focusing on the things we do for each other.... and how we enjoy just spending time with each other doing nothing......
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Post by quest on Feb 25, 2006 13:13:23 GMT -5
And then someone starts 'keeping score'> who's doing the most, who's getting jealous, who is the most human, who is the most selfish, hey....wouldn't it be nice to keep track of the good that others do, instead I tend to think of all the negative issues... Yup, I agree... that is why in my current relationship we are only focusing on the things we do for each other.... and how we enjoy just spending time with each other doing nothing...... That takes a lot of discipline to just do nothing. I know of some yoga sages that pride themselves of being 'emptied in their mind', and just do nothing. Why not at least do something useful, imho, or are you just saying it, [the words don't sound like what you meant]
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Post by mrtindrucvionging on Feb 25, 2006 13:16:14 GMT -5
But if you KNEW that you would not be rejected, you would actively love and express your love, no? That is so very true! For me the best part of my life right now is knowing that my partner knows just how much I love her by my words and even more by my actions. So true, so true, 'mom'. I think we show love much by actions, but even more so by what type of 'actions' we choose to refrain from...
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Post by justamom on Feb 25, 2006 13:20:43 GMT -5
That takes a lot of discipline to just do nothing. I know of some yoga sages that pride themselves of being 'emptied in their mind', and just do nothing. Why not at least do something useful, imho, or are you just saying it, [the words don't sound like what you meant] To me watching a movie is doing nothing, sitting on the beach listening to the waves together is doing nothing..... just those moments where one is not 'on the go' is doing nothing to me... It works for us... does not mean it is going to work for everyone...
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Post by justamom on Feb 25, 2006 13:23:32 GMT -5
[ So true, so true, 'mom'. I think we show love much by actions, but even more so by what type of 'actions' we choose to refrain from... You are right, we refrain from arguing, saying hurtful things to each other, etc.... I had enough of that time of living when I was married... don't need or want it....
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Post by quest on Feb 25, 2006 13:30:22 GMT -5
That takes a lot of discipline to just do nothing. I know of some yoga sages that pride themselves of being 'emptied in their mind', and just do nothing. Why not at least do something useful, imho, or are you just saying it, [the words don't sound like what you meant] To me watching a movie is doing nothing, sitting on the beach listening to the waves together is doing nothing..... just those moments where one is not 'on the go' is doing nothing to me... It works for us... does not mean it is going to work for everyone... You say it works for ''us''. Are you absolutely positive that the same event is viewed exactly the same, for both of you.? Sometimes I thought I was on the same 'wavelength' as someone else, ina moment of quietness, and later on, I found out we weren't even in the same spectrum of thought. [it does help to be a selective 'mind-reader, and only read the parts that are edifying to the 'situation, fwiw, imho, just mt thoughts, if you know what I mean, oh well, whatever....
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Post by justamom on Feb 25, 2006 13:35:50 GMT -5
[quote author=quest board=general thread=1140884032 post=1140892222
Yes, I know it works for 'us' because we talk about it all the time and how we enjoy just spending time with each other doing 'nothing' and how happy we are while doing 'nothing'. As in any relationship, communication is the key and I communicate more with my current partner then I have with my past two....
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Post by quest on Feb 25, 2006 13:41:51 GMT -5
[quote author=quest board=general thread=1140884032 post=1140892222 Yes, I know it works for 'us' because we talk about it all the time and how we enjoy just spending time with each other doing 'nothing' and how happy we are while doing 'nothing'. As in any relationship, communication is the key and I communicate more with my current partner then I have with my past two.... That sounds good, but you do have a tendancy to make exagerated claims, such as we talk ''ALL the time". Don't you give your selves some time to reflect on the serenity of the moment, the wonderful plan God had, in creating man....errr woman hehe
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Post by to quest on Feb 25, 2006 13:47:28 GMT -5
That sounds good, but you do have a tendancy to make exagerated claims, such as we talk ''ALL the time". Don't you give your selves some time to reflect on the serenity of the moment, the wonderful plan God had, in creating man....errr woman hehe[/quote] Methinks you are not happy and you want others that are happy to think that they really are not.
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Post by quest on Feb 25, 2006 13:57:40 GMT -5
That sounds good, but you do have a tendancy to make exagerated claims, such as we talk ''ALL the time". Don't you give your selves some time to reflect on the serenity of the moment, the wonderful plan God had, in creating man....errr woman hehe Methinks you are not happy and you want others that are happy to think that they really are not.[/quote] oooops, it was way too funny errr tongue in cheek, sorry you didn't catch my dumbity .....so then do you talk ALL the time or don't you, and IF you do, how do I know that this is the result of happy, as some people are happy, even when they are not 'talkin', so to speak, if you know what I mean, whatever, sorry.
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Post by really really ugly on Feb 25, 2006 15:18:59 GMT -5
Just want to say Hi to justamom
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Post by quest to ugly on Feb 25, 2006 15:23:12 GMT -5
Just want to say Hi to justamom i thought you were kind of cute ..... ooopps
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Post by justamom on Feb 25, 2006 16:34:20 GMT -5
Well I am very happy in my relationship and yes we do talk all the time about things and how we are feeling and how our relationship is going.
On the other hand, I don't have to explain my life to anyone as they are not the ones living it, I am.....
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Post by quest on Feb 25, 2006 16:47:34 GMT -5
Well I am very happy in my relationship and yes we do talk all the time about things and how we are feeling and how our relationship is going. On the other hand, I don't have to explain my life to anyone as they are not the ones living it, I am..... hey, i am just tieing to help....
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Post by justamom on Feb 25, 2006 16:50:05 GMT -5
LMAO... oh yea sure you are.... ;D
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Post by quest on Feb 25, 2006 16:53:00 GMT -5
LMAO... oh yea sure you are.... ;D i is not sure what does LMAO stand for, if you would be so kind as to illuminate me. thanks,
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Post by spanky on Feb 25, 2006 16:54:06 GMT -5
theres no love in the 2x2s, only HATE This isn't true! I feel that the 2x2's are a rather close nit group. I think this is one of the reasons people from the outside are so attracted/drawn to them. I don't feel it is a facade, either. Anyways, just my 2x2 cents!
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Post by justamom on Feb 25, 2006 16:54:19 GMT -5
LMAO.... Laughing My Arse Off
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Post by spanky on Feb 25, 2006 16:55:02 GMT -5
LMAO... oh yea sure you are.... ;D i is not sure what does LMAO stand for, if you would be so kind as to illuminate me. thanks, Laugh My As@ Off Internet Lingo! ROFLMAO means Roll On Floor Laughing My As% Off, etc.
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Post by quest on Feb 25, 2006 16:57:04 GMT -5
LMAO.... Laughing My Arse Off Oh, I am soo sorry that I caused such an event, please forgive me..
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