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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 18, 2024 20:16:22 GMT -5
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Post by godsgrace on Apr 18, 2024 23:50:21 GMT -5
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Post by jwatt on Apr 19, 2024 0:06:01 GMT -5
Hmmm, where's the resident nz worker now???
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 19, 2024 0:27:49 GMT -5
I guess the brown stuff will hit the whirly gig, but then many will say "it's just the enemy. An imperfect people walking in a perfect way" and other such platitudes
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 19, 2024 0:43:24 GMT -5
"Apparently it's only one ex member that is under investigation" quote, Wayne Dean.
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Post by Mary on Apr 19, 2024 1:07:06 GMT -5
"Apparently it's only one ex member that is under investigation" quote, Wayne Dean. It does not say ex member, it says former minister. Doesn't say if they are still professing or not. I wonder how many of those who have died were held accountable by the church? Wayne Dean doesn't admit to anything and tries to make out they are victim focused when they have only recently sat up and taken notice.
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Post by dsmith on Apr 19, 2024 1:10:19 GMT -5
"Apparently it's only one ex member that is under investigation" quote, Wayne Dean. Yea same ol’ same ol’ blah blah blah. He’s ignoring all the others swept under the carpet!
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Post by jwatt on Apr 19, 2024 1:51:47 GMT -5
"Apparently it's only one ex member that is under investigation" quote, Wayne Dean. It does not say ex member, it says former minister. Doesn't say if they are still professing or not. I wonder how many of those who have died were held accountable by the church? Wayne Dean doesn't admit to anything and tries to make out they are victim focused when they have only recently sat up and taken notice. Wayne Dean continues to live in lala land, but it will catch up with him. Sad for those who have struggled all these years with no support from him.
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Post by Mary on Apr 19, 2024 2:07:10 GMT -5
It does not say ex member, it says former minister. Doesn't say if they are still professing or not. I wonder how many of those who have died were held accountable by the church? Wayne Dean doesn't admit to anything and tries to make out they are victim focused when they have only recently sat up and taken notice. Wayne Dean continues to live in lala land, but it will catch up with him. Sad for those who have struggled all these years with no support from him. He hasn't been in the job that long. I've heard he's a good guy??
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Post by jwatt on Apr 19, 2024 2:42:44 GMT -5
Wayne Dean continues to live in lala land, but it will catch up with him. Sad for those who have struggled all these years with no support from him. He hasn't been in the job that long. I've heard he's a good guy?? Been in the job long enough to know there is more than 1 case! He came over from Australia
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 19, 2024 3:18:39 GMT -5
He has a reputation of being a reasonable guy. However, I know of more than one police investigation, both current members, and I believe there is another one of an ex-worker. So I would say that Wayne Dean is being disingenuous to say the least, and deliberately under playing things, as they are wont to do.
The apology doesn't come with financial help for victim counseling, or legal help, from what I understand.
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Post by Mary on Apr 19, 2024 4:13:21 GMT -5
He has a reputation of being a reasonable guy. However, I know of more than one police investigation, both current members, and I believe there is another one of an ex-worker. So I would say that Wayne Dean is being disingenuous to say the least, and deliberately under playing things, as they are wont to do. The apology doesn't come with financial help for victim counseling, or legal help, from what I understand. The government pay for counseling for victims of sexual abuse in NZ. The police take the case to court. Some extra redress would be good though.
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Post by xna on Apr 19, 2024 4:25:07 GMT -5
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Post by fixit on Apr 19, 2024 15:32:49 GMT -5
Naah....we have it on good authority from our resident NZ worker that all is well here in New Zealand. "Nothing to see here folks, move along now".
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 19, 2024 16:21:58 GMT -5
I know of four from one NZ community that had around 50-60 friends, one now deceased. I'd wager they didn't even make the list.
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Post by xna on Apr 19, 2024 16:44:59 GMT -5
Naah....we have it on good authority from our resident NZ worker that all is well here in New Zealand. "Nothing to see here folks, move along now". It's possible his statement was true as of April 19, 2012, then after April 19th, 2022 more problems arose.
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Post by fixit on Apr 19, 2024 17:25:20 GMT -5
Naah....we have it on good authority from our resident NZ worker that all is well here in New Zealand. "Nothing to see here folks, move along now". It's possible his statement was true as of April 19, 2012, then after April 19th, 2022 more problems arose. Is that what you can see in the following thread? NZ Sex issue
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Post by xna on Apr 19, 2024 17:46:55 GMT -5
It's possible his statement was true as of April 19, 2012, then after April 19th, 2022 more problems arose. Is that what you can see in the following thread? NZ Sex issueI didn't look at that thread which was the the source of your quote because, it was not reference to in this thread, and I did not remember it. Upon review I see that quote was also from 2 years ago. So for me this doesn't exclude the possibility that " after April 19th, 2022 more problems arose". Based on the patterns I have seen, I am skeptical that all CSA stopped in NZ two years ago, however everyone is presumed innocent until found guilty. Verse of the day Luke 8:17 "For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open."
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 19, 2024 18:20:49 GMT -5
Naah....we have it on good authority from our resident NZ worker that all is well here in New Zealand. "Nothing to see here folks, move along now". It's possible his statement was true as of April 19, 2012, then after April 19th, 2022 more problems arose. I know of one case from prior to 2012 which the workers involved tried desperately to sweep under the carpet. Fortunately the woman involved stuck to her guns and the perp has a police conviction. How that was handled makes the resident workers statement a lie. The perp has at least one other victim. It would be good if they could find the courage to go to the police. It may save another woman from a traumatic experience.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 19, 2024 21:16:35 GMT -5
His statement then was a lie, even if he believes it to be true. I had him about it, and he went very defensive and became rather vicious. The fact that he is not allowed near any CSA cases himself now, speaks to his character.
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Post by fred on Apr 19, 2024 22:09:00 GMT -5
His statement then was a lie, even if he believes it to be true. I had him about it, and he went very defensive and became rather vicious. The fact that he is not allowed near any CSA cases himself now, speaks to his character. I wonder if that is a universal response? Any time I've asked an inconvenient question or slightly disagreed with something said the person involved bristles and becomes very defensive. always reminds me of a snake rearing to strike!
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Post by fixit on Apr 19, 2024 23:08:54 GMT -5
His statement then was a lie, even if he believes it to be true. I had him about it, and he went very defensive and became rather vicious. The fact that he is not allowed near any CSA cases himself now, speaks to his character. I wonder if that is a universal response? Any time I've asked an inconvenient question or slightly disagreed with something said the person involved bristles and becomes very defensive. always reminds me of a snake rearing to strike! Or a narcissist.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 22, 2024 15:37:59 GMT -5
I wonder if that is a universal response? Any time I've asked an inconvenient question or slightly disagreed with something said the person involved bristles and becomes very defensive. always reminds me of a snake rearing to strike! Or a narcissist. I hear that some NZ men in the truth have taken to wearing jewellery. This is a serious matter and the workers should come down hard on it.
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Post by help on Apr 22, 2024 16:57:23 GMT -5
Should be attached higher up.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 22, 2024 19:47:17 GMT -5
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 23, 2024 18:46:26 GMT -5
Should be attached higher up. But doesn't it vibrate?
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Post by xna on Apr 26, 2024 18:07:03 GMT -5
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 28, 2024 17:49:57 GMT -5
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